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Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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jadarx posted:

7th Sea 2E

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/johnwickpresents/7th-sea-second-edition/posts/1587796

Looks like nearly complex core rulebook pdf will be sent to backers for review with a possible Gencon release.

Well, who will sacrifice themself to the masses and review it for FATAL & Friendsī16?
The people need to know the amount of WICKedness it may/may not contain!

Mr.Misfit fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 27, 2016

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Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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potatocubed posted:

The worst man in roleplaying harassed the creator clean off the internet.

Wait, Zak S was involved?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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The saddest thing? I really thought that was the kickstarter title, because Iīd have backed something with that premise immediately, regardless of price, but for that project...well, it looks mediocre, even for UE4. And frankly, they say so little about the project itself. And Iīd trust Stewart Wieck about as far, as I can throw him. You can guess how far that is. Meh.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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How so? AssCreed 2 was a good game, how is that wickian?

Mr.Misfit
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FastestGunAlive posted:

I feel like they should have gone adventure game for 7th sea. Or a less ambitious, traditional turn based rpg, and just focus on building up the world and lore instead. Because this isn't looking too hot.

And yet Monkey Island already exists, so another chance missed. Maybe a Telltale Games Version?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Got my german KS version of Fragged Empire CRB today. Nice book, shiny pages, hardcover.
Only about 6 weeks late, so its "kinda" ok. Not really, but on Kickstarter these days it is, I suppose.

Got among others "an audio cd with music" that contains the Tabletop Audio Ambient Tracks..which I find kinda cheap,
as well as some rather ugly and 4-pages strong character sheets in high glossy paper (Which you canīt write with pencil on, and really guys, 4 pages?)
Finally it seems that KS is going to delay even longer for some of the other products as theyīve lost a translator that "dropped of the face of the earth"
as a company said in their weekly video update.

Bah what am I complaining, I got what I wanted out of it. Yay =)

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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In theory, at least according to its writer, its constantly at "almost done, only THIS little tidbit is missing!" wich we can translate to 0.99.
Therefore the timespan since the end of the Kickstarter campaign amounts to 0.99 FAR WESTs. This means that we have a recognizable, if somewhat unstable length of time with which we can measure other Kickstarters. Of course, anything that goes beyond 0.1 is bad, anything that actually released is unusable since it exceeds the scale due to being never =1 (Since the max amount of FAR WEST that can exist is 0.99) etc....

But its not useless ;)
Silly perhaps.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Evil Mastermind posted:

It still boggles my mind that we're here in TYOOL 2017 and there are still people who, when they realize that D&D/Pathfinder isn't working for them, will try to bend those games into new shapes they weren't meant to be in rather than just try one of the hundreds of other readily available games out there.

Yes but on the surface it is at least easily explainable. Itīs the comfort in the familiar. By using the rules as they know and tweaking them in ways that seem "new" to them, they remain well within their comfort zone while still doing something they believe to be exciting. Its less a problem of the niche genre in not informing people of games with those "exciting features" but rather one of perception and reach (of those games that already feature those innovations).

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Sex in itself, even if not set as a theme of taboo, is in effect a plot vehicle. Its the MacGuffin used to create Drama, but its unable to carry itself as part of mechanics if played out because by its very nature, it is the degeneracy of all human rationality and thought. It is the most beast-like act, that sheds the thin veneer of civilization we have built and that veneer is what fails any attempts at simulating it mechanically in a roleplaying game. Its the reason why sexual tension works, but not the resolution of that tension.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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JackMann posted:

Not gonna lie. At least in the F&F thread, I've been really enjoying the timeline posted for Godlike.

Thereīs a difference. The timeline in Godlike is interesting because its about real-world-history and the slight alt-history changes we can see or notice.
In fantastic worlds, itīs usually "cliche, trope, cliche, trope, uninteresting sidenote" instead, as thereīs nothing connecting us to the history of the places we read about.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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HazCat posted:

Yeah, but cutting fake runways in the jungle doesn't bring the planes back. And of all the aspects of Gloomhaven to cargo cult, they picked its graphic design?

Apparently the wise sentence "More often than not, game designers donīt know what makes their product popular" strikes again.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Leperflesh posted:

just watch supergreatfriend's LP

Seconding this. Rarely have I watched an LP where the peron presenting it did with such enthusiasm and simply "joy" for the game, all the while taking potshots at its failings.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Didnīt DDO already try and totally fail at that, because it showed that the rules, as adapted to the computer, were basically 80s version of bad rpgs controls and backgrounds?
Hell, Iīm currently playing Baldurs Gate and those ADnD rules are frickin awful in some regards, I remember often going at odds with Neverwinter Nights (where it was less clear, but still happened) and Neverwinter only works because itīs basically an action game built on 4€ and doing exactly what that game tried and where it worked. But also...itīs a soulless MMO. So yeah.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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inklesspen posted:

http://www.isfarwestoutyet.com/ expires tomorrow (the domain, that is) and since garethman has stopped giving PDF release deadlines that he'll inevitably break, I think I'm gonna let it go. RIP, rat queens lady. You will be missed.

I say, this requires a tribute page to the tribute page to GMSīs lateness. Maybe "Weforgotthatfarwestislate.com" ?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Leperflesh posted:

let's rehash the civil war in the TG kickstarter thread

I can already envision it. Trump leading the progressive southern theocracy and the liberal SJW northern states on the other side. Ripe for Kickstarter to be kicked, right? What do you think, should we get CMON on board? Maybe get some artist in here so we can also bake it the greatest, biggest, most unworkable boardgame of all time?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Leperflesh posted:

I mean maybe that's an improvement but it's still forcing players to make a binary gender choice

Yeah but...there are only two genders? You canīt really expand beyond binary unless you wanna go into fantasy territory. Which I mean, sure, itīs "The Thing The Game", go for it, I guess?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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inklesspen posted:

Here, let Teen Vogue teach you a little bit about gender.

(Also, speaking as a nonbinary person, I am super happy to be a fantasy hero if and only if I get caster levels out of it.)

Honey, in fantasy territory, you can get whatever you want.
Also, that sounds interesting, if a bit like something of a social fad.

Lemon-Lime posted:

You're thinking of sexes. Sex and gender aren't the same thing.

Ahhh. I see. Learn something new every day, I suppose.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Lemon-Lime posted:

:rolleyes: Gender identity is a concept that was discovered in the 1960s.

Maybe you should consider going out and learning more things before posting about them? Unless you want to start complaining that women shouldn't have the vote and African-Americans aren't people.

preemptive edit: if your response to people kindly taking time out of their day to explain basic facts about the human psyche that have been common knowledge for years is to parrot the rhetoric of bigots, don't be surprised if people assume you're a bigot or a troll.

Actually, your post is the first time Iīve ever heard the term "gender identity" and have now found the corresponding wikipedia article. Actually, as knowledge about the topic is more or less exotic unless you delve into it, you can quite happily live without ever really getting into it, and my education certainly didnīt cover it, so I apologise if I did step on some toes here. I didnīt mean to sound dismisse, but rather factual, but on the internet thatīs rather difficult to put into words.

MollyMetroid posted:

It's 2017 if you're "learning something new" about the existence of nonbinary people at all I don't know what the hell kind of rock you've been under. Not knowing much about the topic is one thing...but then again your dismissive tone in response to the information being offered in good faith speaks volumes about what kind of rocks you have in your head, at least.

Get wrecked, in other words.

Iīm unsure how to respond to this and I donīt think Iīd very much like to get "wrecked".
Itīs actually quite easy to live without really learning much about the topic when you live in liberal middle class circumstances on the lower end and your general thought for the day and week is how do you get food on the table and not "did you know that people discern sex and gender and that that one can have a gender outside those specified by sex alone?". Also , yes, my philosophical and socio-cultural upbringing didnīt really go beyond the context of that general "bubble". Itīs a concept I still have to wrap my head around. Also I donīt think, either literally nor figuratively, that Iīve got rocks in my head, but rather that, on a base discussion level we can all be civil about it and I can be taught a valuable lesson that would broaden my perspective. *sigh* Or not.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

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my understanding is that many human cultures have had more than two genders at various points in time through out human history and the two gender thing is mainly a white christian social fad
Thatīs contrary to my experience but then Iīve mostly experienced white semi-christian context.

Apparently, measured by the reactions Iīm encountering, Iīve already become the evil strawman enemy that has to be "taught a lesson" and this isnīt the place for that, so Iīll shut up about it now.

If any of you wish to discuss this further, Iīm open for PMs.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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To add another piece to the saga of dead trpg kickstarters, I stumbled over this on rpg.net where it was hidden away.
Itīs https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sagatales/sagatales-presents-machina-dark Machina Dark, a "grim and gritty classless Steam-/Dieselpunk post-ww1 alt-history game".
Unfortunately it seems to have ended on October 11th already, being canceled by the creator, for reasons unknown (at least I canīt find any on their update page).

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Kai Tave posted:

Reviews/breakdowns I've seen of it suggest that it's basically a fiddly d6 system with nothing to actually recommend it whatsoever.

Sounds like a job for the FATAL & Friends thread!

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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ProfessorCirno posted:

I never looked into it, but I'd say the opposite - sounds too boring for that.

Well, by itself Middenarde seemed boring by itself too, until we found the Peasant Birdlord ;)

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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But are the rules any good or is it just another gorgeous dead weight of bad rules made by people without an understanding of game design?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Isnīt the idea of the fetishized games also that they provide a safe outlet for those fetishes without being played out in society itself? You know...like roleplaying or videogames for many are a form of outlet for feelings, frustrations etc.?

Also, wouldnīt Arivias form of "Activism" result in a harassment law suite?

Finally, there always exist things we find morally despicable or wrong, but that doesnīt mean that they donīt have a right to be created by their author, as long as they donīt interfere with the safety or freedoms of the individual? The work itself is not dangerous. Itīs what we let it influence that can be dangerous.

In short. Elfgames and itīs related media can be lovely. Just like the rest. Sorry, it happens. Reference FATAL and remember that Nabokovs Lolita exists. Also, play Gloomhaven instead.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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When did right-wingers become Nazis? Arenīt Nazis as in National Socialists, derived from the german word Nazi for NAtionalsoZIalist a very specific, also focused on antisemitism and genocidal eugenic theory, a very specific branch of right-wing extremism? Or is this just general internet behaviour which mixes everything into samey words just to get an "US vs THEM" out of it?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Liquid Communism posted:

When they started espousing just those values. Have you been living on the goddamn moon for the last six months, and somehow missed the no-poo poo white supremacists waving torches and chanting Nazi slogans at protests?

Iīm not an american and most news sources I watch/consume arenīt very us-centric, so I donīt see that much about it in the news. What I do see is very white-supremacist stuff and racial conflicts. I admittedly might have missed the move towards nazism. I just like things labeled correctly and fascists, rightists (seriously, is there no good way to say that like leftists?) and nazis arenīt always the same. Sorry if I offended, for I did not mean to.

@DigitalRaven
I donīt understand. How am I to source that? Errhh..."Brockhaus General Lexika 2011 Edition"?

@dwarf74
Itīs not about the metaphorical meaning but the idea that specific things can mean and carry very specific things/connotations.

@ Arivia
Defending Kingdom Death and therefore declaring my opinion consequently bad irregardless is bad form. I was "defending Kingdom Death" on the idea that "just because someone doesnīt like it doesnīt mean it doesnīt have validity to exist". Following your train of thought would mean weīd ban most works of fiction and/or games because they are offensive to someone. I donīt think that a healthy democratic society should have need to do that :/

@ Nuns with Guns
I did not know that. Thank you, I will.

Edit:
In other news, Changeling has still 14 days to go and about doubled itīs needed amount. RPG.Net is currently doing a Membership drive (not exactly TG but TG-related at least) and I accidentally misread this as Tomb of Horros, but FGG has already accomplished their Goal on Tome of Horrors.

Mr.Misfit fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Nov 30, 2017

Mr.Misfit
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Liquid Communism posted:

You are clearly the most sheltered creature on these dead forums. 60,000 white supremacists and Neo Nazis marching in Warsaw two weeks ago also flew over your head.

You should probably not comment on anything political if you are so oblivious to the news as to carry water for people calling for a new wave of religious and racially motivated genocide, only to claim ignorance as a defense when called on it.

Mors Rattus posted:

The rise of neonazis across the world in right wing politics (and particularly the alt right, ie, nazism cloaked just enough to be acceptable to more moderate right wing groups) hasn’t been exactly subtle, yeah. You are either sheltered as gently caress, stupid or willfully dense.

E: for the record, my money is on 2 and 3.

HazCat posted:

Unless I missed something and a government is threatening to ban KD, this isn't an issue of censorship.

Boycotting a product (and encouraging others to for any reason, logical or emotional) isn't censorship, it's just people exercising their free speech to call something poo poo because they personally believe it's poo poo.

Trying to argue that commercial works deserve to be profitable is a weird position to take, and it's super weird to feel the need to defend KD in particular, considering it is completely free from editorial or publisher oversight. Unless you are worried the creator will change his views based on what people are saying, I can't see how anyone can 'ban' him from doing anything.

KD:M has raised well over $15M total just based on the two Kickstarters alone (and not counting the webstore where - just as one example - 125 $150 models sold out in under 30 minutes recently). It's safe to say, he's not under any financial pressure to curb his creative tone. The only reason criticism could affect his artwork would be if he found himself agreeing with the arguments and chose to alter his art direction, and that's a far cry from anything resembling a 'ban'.


I get it. Iīm an idiot. Can we stop this now? Hell, if Iīd known it would create this...apparently I am DENSE As EFF. Whoppdeedoo :(. No, I did not know that there was a march of 60k Neonazis on Warsaw, I only heard about a general right-wing demonstration across the country, I did not make the connection to Neo-Nazis. The rise of right-wing elements across the western hemisphere has not been unnoticed, but I did not connect that with the Alt-Right as Nazism. Since it seems that anything Iīm saying seems to "dig my hole deeper", I will shut up now.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Has the remake or 2nd Edition even hit stores yes? Iīve missed their Kickstarter for it and it looks georgoeous. Other than than, Nemoīs War v1 was a nice little, very self contained game that was very difficult and dependend on being really lucky with dice rolls as there wasnīt really that much in the way of strategy or things to "impact" on the game board. You really only decide where to travel to and if to attack ships, rolling dice to see if you sink them or no. Also itīs incredibly easy to lose.

Mr.Misfit
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What if itīs some sort of misunderstood sort of fascism? Like Gerontocratic Fascism...ie. Fascism by way of old people VS young people?

Mr.Misfit
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Foglet posted:

Let's just all conclude that AJ, while potentially a jerk, at least wasn't a fascist and got his implants the good old honest-to-God way instead of growing them from a suspicious radio signal of dubious origin like some sort of Tetsuo the Iron Man.

By dying and having his body used against his will by his ultra-capitalist libertarian boss who thought it better to use his point man/chief of security a controllable murdermachine than let the poor man rest in peace after dying to a bunch of murderhobos?

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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The following is only indirectly TG-related but well...
If youīre somewhere in northern Europe and like good roleplaying music,
you might have heard of the german group ERDENSTERN. Theyīve done
a number of soundtrack and ambient track cds for different games and genres,
from generic explorative wilderness adventures, to cthuhu-esque horror,
and made a number of concept cds, like the one for Mountains of Madness et al.

Theyīve started a Kickstarter for a live concert
in October 2019, and there are still cards to be gotten. So far theyīve gotten about 8k € from their needed 34k € needed
and have gone for four days. Kicktraq predicts a stable growth towards stretchgoals (up to 224% at first, which was kinda weird).

If you like good roleplaying music, and want to support a good thing, help them out. I know I did =)

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Is there a way to help fund this if one doesnīt have a credit card? Like, via Paypal or something similarly silly?
Other than that, sounds interesting, would like to back..

Mr.Misfit
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The_Doctor posted:

I just saw a miniatures fest called Reich Hunters on KS. Minimum pledge is $100, and shipping is likely to be $40 in the US, so I hope that bubble bursts soon.

As a BiLingual Bonus, Reich is also the german word for wealthy. So in a way, they are both xD

Mr.Misfit
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ravenkult posted:

This will only be of interest to game designers and possibly writers, but I'm doing an art challenge for February where I'm also licensing the art for games and books.

https://igg.me/at/30bookcovers

Here's one of them.



I'll probably post once more when I'm near the end and have most of the 30 pieces I'm making done.

Thatīs a really nice cover...*looks into how the pricing works*

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Magnusth posted:

AAAAAAAA I got funded! My game about hunting giant monsters will definitely be a thing!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1325743523/titan-hunt if you're interested! Aaaaaaa

Yay, something I backed is happening ^^

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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Well Whaddya know, apparently you can play all these terribly different revolutions who happened from different causes, reasons and with much different effect, outlook and ultimate goals just the same way, eh? Ainīt that just grand...

Mr.Misfit
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Mors Rattus posted:

...that's a pretty short turnaround time on a Kickstarter scam.

Itīs unlikely to be a scam. The company behind it, Uhrwerk Verlag, is a known and for a time, well, was rather successful in publishing a number of independent or different rpgs, and according to the german news theyīve given out the bankruptcy is declared due to "unforeseen events". This sucks considering that they had a number of successful kickstarters the past 6 months, Forbidden Lands in german among them as well.

Mr.Misfit
Jan 10, 2013

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You can actually buy it from their site as the digital pdf already. And itīs still gorgeous ^^

Mr.Misfit
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After all the fun I recently had with Rhapsody of Blood, hell yea this is backed!

Mr.Misfit
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The Moon Monster posted:

Check out this fukken campaign page:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fanaticgamelabs/heroes-and-gods-the-master-of-dreams

If only they included 150 minis they'd be funded for millions instead of struggling over the finish line.

The art looks amazingly bad for something that seems to be made for millions of ks-monies.
Feels like they tried to siphon that CMON-feeling and failed. Hard.

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Mr.Misfit
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stephaniemcalea/the-wild-hunt-for-call-of-cthulhu
Still delayed, now enters its 15th month. Mostly it seems their editor is either the saddest human
alive with all the problems s*he has, or itīll take 2 more years...
To note, the book was kickstarted in January 2018.

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