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King Possum III posted:A couple of things about money apparently being obsolete in the Federation; Watch Who Mourns for Morn again. Latinum is liquid naturally, it's bound up in useless gold to form units of currency. Much like Dilithium, Latinum is an invention of the show; it can't be replicated and is rare enough to use as a means of exchange and store of wealth. There will always be some scarcity, if even just real estate. Energy isn't free either. The Federation maintains a basic standard of living for its citizens, probably through a combination of hand outs and a basic income. As long as there are physical things to move around there will be some form of economy it's just not discussed because they are "beyond that kind of thing" (i.e. Gene thought that it sounded like a good hook for a utopia in the 60s)
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People want to live in Manhattan because that is where things happen. No amount of replicators are going to make more tickets for Hamilton.
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So are we back around to the question of why anyone ever leaves their personal holodeck?
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Jul 6, 2016 13:40
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Star Man posted:wait what The actor who played the chief engineer in like three episodes of TNG season one started a letter writing campaign with his friends and family to try and get his role made permanent... before any of the episodes he was in had aired.
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Jul 7, 2016 02:06
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Rhyno posted:Man, DS9, Our Man Bashir is either the very best or very worst episode of the series and I can't decide which. Best overall holodeck episode, any series. Top 20 non-arc DS9 episodes.
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Jul 18, 2016 01:30
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Why cookie Rocket posted:They manage to actually kind of (probably accidentally) explore something as the plot of 1 movie in 4, then. I wish I were a sociologist so I could figure out why western sci-fi has lost all sense of imagination regarding the unknown. Plenty of good stuff out there, just nothing you'd hoist your summer tent pole with. The real question is why anyone thought Star Trek of all things should be the next big action movie franchise.
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Jul 19, 2016 03:49
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Except everyone would be cheering when that piece of crap gets wrecked.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:57
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Shame they didn't give it to Pegg from the start. Could have been great instead of just good.
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Jul 26, 2016 20:04
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After seeing Beyond again I'm dialing back my initial good impression quite a bit. The cast really was great and a lot of elements are there but all three new movies just leave me with a general dissapointment. They really could have been something if they weren't first and foremost summer action movies.
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Jul 27, 2016 12:34
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah the old Earth soldier kept alive by alien war lostech was an interesting foil for once. Could have made a nice little point about how that alien society ultimately wiped itself out through its endless warmongering and that a greater unity really is the only way forward. Edit: Make Jala a post apocalyptic descendent of the race that built the stuff Krall found and give her some lines about how we "destroyed ourselves seeking strength and fighting others". sunday at work fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jul 27, 2016 |
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Jul 27, 2016 13:10
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Otisburg posted:I really expected more people to object to the exquisite superstructure habtat porn as "too advanced" or "not matching the aesthetic" and am pleasantly suprised that's not the case. I'm not a huge fan of the film but Yorktown is exactly the kind of thing I've always wanted to see in Trek. Both from an aspirational future angle and simply a special effect. CGI can still wow with some interesting design behind it.
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Jul 27, 2016 18:50
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There'd been a first run season of Trek on for like 13 years atraight when ENT premiered, the last few of which had just been Voyager. People were burnt out. It was not a good time to jump in on a poorly written prequel.
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Jul 29, 2016 23:54
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Rhyno posted:The one where they have to rob the mobsters was too loving much. I'm in the home stretch so no more time for bullshit filler episodes. Does a thought this wrong physically hurt?
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Aug 6, 2016 14:49
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The thing that really bugs me about that approach to techno babble is that it would have been easier to just spend an hour or two laying down same basic rules in the show bible and then inserting them into the scripts instead of making something up whole sale each time. Time fuckery: chronoton particles Warp drive related: subspace and or tachyons Something bad is happening: reverse the polarity Especially by the time Voyager rolled around enough of that kind of stuff was de facto established that there really was no excuse for stuff like Warp Particles.
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Aug 25, 2016 16:24
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Seven of Nine is really funny though. I saw an episode where they are using the Holodeck to recreate a cheesy 1950's sci-fi show, with a big goofy robot, and since 7o9 doesn't understand the game, she just dismantles the robot in five seconds, breaking the game. Seven flipping the script on the 'what does it mean to be human' trope character was always great, especially in the context of Voyager. "This is dumb, why are you assholes not trying to get home right now?" - 7 of 9
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Sep 1, 2016 16:48
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WickedHate posted:I wonder what it'd be like being a Star Trek fan in the 90s, when the franchise was at it's peak. It was fantastic. The only thing missing was an easy way to watch TOS.
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Sep 28, 2016 02:58
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WhiteHowler posted:
What was good is still really good (seasons 2, 3, 4) and what was bad/awkward/cheese at the time is still bad/awkward/cheese. It's always been worth a watch.
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Nov 26, 2016 01:00
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It's not like they forgot how money works or don't need to use it with other civilizations. Humans don't kill each other anymore but the ship still has phasers.
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Q_res posted:Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda both always felt, to me, like half-baked Star Trek spinoff ideas with the numbers filed off. Replace the Taelons with the Vulcans and do a find/replace on Andromeda scripts with the Commonwealth being the Federation stand-in, the Nietzscheans as the Klingons, the Magog are the Borg, and I imagine the Vedrans as the Vulcans. The basic plot of Andromeda would have been a much better set up for Voyager than a single ship lost far from home. A cutting edge Federation vessel is flung in to a far future where the alpha quadrant races have decayed in to a dark age; the crew of the
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MikeJF posted:Over on Star Trek Online, you can give the new NX-Refit a TOS-era hull plating if you want, it's an interesting thing to see. Looks like someone squished a ship down into half its original volume.
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Jan 27, 2017 18:09
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Tighclops posted:I dunno this is pretty accurate to what most adults are like in my experience
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Feb 3, 2017 01:49
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Most of the survivors on BSG spent the entire four years on the space equivalent of a 747. It's amazing they hadn't all killed each other after six weeks of being cooped up like that. There is a ship in that fleet full of people who caught their connection out of the 12 Colonies equivalent of Atlanta after a six hour delay wishing they had caught a Cylon nuke before the end of 33. sunday at work fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Do the Kiznti have some Trek specific back story somewhere? I know they were on a liscenced map or something one time but Known Space is way different from Trek history so how would they be anything more then bad cat aliens? Ringworld is extremely 70s and would be hard to boil down into a movie, especially with out at least a little background set up of Known Space.
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Apr 12, 2017 14:12
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Nebakenezzer posted:Related to Supertrain: why have I never seen this: There is a retro film series I go to a lot where they show trailers that would have run the same time as the films that are showing that night. So you'll see trailers for the total crap that was coming out the same year as Alien or Temple of Doom. People always say they don't make them like they used to but they do make them like they used to. Most stuff was garbage that was instantly forgotten back in the day too. For every Airplane there were a dozen losers that no one remembers.
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Apr 30, 2017 02:53
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skooma512 posted:Reminds me of a play somebody did of people retelling Simpsons episodes around a fire 100 years from now after society has collapsed. Mr Burns: A Post Electric Play The musical number in the second act is a little long but the reat is great.
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McSpanky posted:All that spacecraft-critical limestone they needed from the Iowa mines. It's what the consoles are filled with.
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Jun 1, 2017 21:39
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Nelix is kind of Voyager in a nutshell: occasionally really good, more often notably bad, but in reality mostly blandly forgettable which leaves you mostly remembering the bad.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:42
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Orv posted:It's nice every once and a while to get confirmation that even as into Star Trek as I am, I'm not an insane person about it. Is this too long for a thread title?
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Jun 28, 2017 17:24
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That ship is so ugly. WTF? Who signed off on that?
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Sep 25, 2017 01:56
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I nevere liked the idea of a borg queen, but I always thought 5 or 10 minutes introducing a new second officer for the Enterprise and then having her be assimilated as the body of the queen would have been a good set up for the movie. Kind of a parallel to Locutus.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Nope. She she just calls herself "The Borg." For sure. Queen means leader or ruler. If she had been the Voice or the Will it would have painted her in an entirely different light and made her a face for the collective. Of course the collective was always a scary idea by itself and didn't need a face so whatever, but Queen really craps on the idea of a collective and makes the Borg out to be a hive that she rules.
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Apr 10, 2018 21:40
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Platonicsolid posted:Would Ryan have put up with corset-induced hypoxia that long? Borg makeup was probably looser than the nonsense they had her in for the rest of the show.
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Action hero Picard might just be the worst element of any Trek movie.
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The Federation is post-scarcity to a point. Their technology is advanced but it isn't magic. They are regularly shown to be limited in the amount of material or energy that they can apply to a specific problem in a specific location. The main difference between now and the Federation is that everyone (who isn't for whatever reason interested in living on a far flung colony that hasn't been brought up to the level of having local mass industrial replication and solar-orbiting antimatter factories) is provided with such a high basic standard of living (food, housing, medical care, education, material wealth) that they can afford to focus their time and energy on whatever they want to do. Sisko's dad can own a resturant because it's his passion in life and he is free to pursue that. It works out because there are relativly few people (even now) who want to run a resturant in New Orleans.
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Oct 12, 2020 15:00
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If Move Along Home had been in season 4 or 5 it'd be a classic don't skip episode.
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Oct 19, 2020 17:34
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Brawnfire posted:It's nuts, they came up with a character that was numerous characters and couldn't come up with anything for them to do? That's the problem. Most of the interesting things about her are about the past hosts. Take away the symbiote and she's just a young junior officer that they didn't know how to develop.
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MikeJF posted:They should've had a second minefield a thousand kilometres away or so that nobody knows about and told it to just drift on over if the first one explodes. Aren't lindmines a war crime because you can't easily clean them up? Given that you could instantly and completley dismantle the field when the threat has passed that wouldn't be an issue. Edit: They probably tired this once and had a bugged patch that ened up with an enteir solar system being convereted into a death trap by self replicating mines. sunday at work fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 22, 2020 |
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Really wish the DS9 team had stolen something from Babylon 5 and blocked the show for 1.78:1.
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Tuvok and Neelix didn't have a say in the matter because they had recently died in a transporter accident.
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