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Thom12255 posted:The last cool borg thing was the intro of Scorpion. The no lasting consequences of Voyager should ruined what could of been a full war between The Borg and Species 8472. Both could of been powerful and still have Voyager have to sneak around but as it stood they needed the Borg to be the baddest on the block.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2019 16:00 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 09:37 |
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BioEnchanted posted:I liked the episode with Beverley Crusher getting trapped in the Warp Bubble. That one was cool. Just her breakdown as she grows more and more isolated. *computer stalls for an answer*
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2019 21:41 |
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Thom12255 posted:Weren't the movie and the finale being done at the exact same time by the same people? If Memory Alpha is to be believed yes and they also thought that All Good Things ended up being the better effort. Generations is a pretty movie with good acting but its plot is a loving mess and didn't know what it wanted to do. Like the whole thing about time being and enemy and how do we deal with our past, present, and future are interesting concepts but they never do anything with it. First Contact, which I love, had Stewart ask to switch Picard and Riker's positions in the script. Riker was suppose to be the one on the Enterprise fighting the Borg and Stewart making the warp flight. Though, I think that switch worked out well at the end of the day.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2019 00:48 |
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:You're in charge of Star Trek. How do you make it better? -Say yes to Seth MacFarlane when he asked to do a Star Trek show. I guess more seriously, focus on the new live, new civilizations thing and focus on the ensemble. Don't do DARK TREK or WHaT IF THe FEdERaTION waS BaD?! I feel like every Star Trek lately misses the exploration of science, philosophy, and the bigger questions of society. They all want to be action shows to talk about how horrible everything is or become action with no substance.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2019 13:17 |
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BioEnchanted posted:Wow that episode with the return and death of the Crystalline Entity was interesting. Definitely an uncharacteristically dark ending.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2019 22:17 |
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BioEnchanted posted:Ensign Ro owns btw. also I like that in this episode with the memory wipe, they have no idea who the captain is, but Worf points out that both picard and himself have decorations that could imply leadership and have no idea which would be the actual leader - and instead of fighting over it, Worf is just acting as captain for the time being cause "Why not, we need someone leading the recon and we all know gently caress all so it's not like Picard is more qualified right now as far as everyone knows" I also a cool little character moment when Worf apologizes when they find out he is not the Captain and Picard is like, don't worry about it. Worf because its the honorable thing to say/do and Picard because Worf reached a reasonable conclusion.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2019 13:50 |
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Delthalaz posted:The secret Romulan terror cell based on a he destroyed borg cube is clearly using slaves of some kind (maybe former drones whatever) to make a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to seek REVENGE against the Federation. Because that’s what Star Trek is about. While I agree, we need more new life/new civilizations and boldly going, this is easily something I could see Romulan doing. Also, i bet the founders would start a war with the borg because they are arrogant pricks.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2019 12:21 |
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OldSenileGuy posted:
I would ditch Decent and add Redemption II and Unification I and II, the Phoenix, and the First Duty.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2019 03:47 |
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OldSenileGuy posted:Meh, I don’t mind if there’s a turd here or there. I’m probably gonna watch more than just what’s in the list. I’ll use the list as a “must watch” roadmap, and pick and choose episodes in between to watch if they sound interesting or, as many of them do, extremely silly. You may want to add the Defector and the Neutral Zone to the list to get some Romulus flavor that involved Picard.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2019 11:40 |
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CPColin posted:Checking in to say I think Data looked fine in that trailer. I am not sure about how Data looks but also, he is an android from the future that the Federation has had decades to figure out all you need is one line of... "Working with federation scientists I have decided to age more human adapting my programming and body to age more normally like a human." Personally, I kinda like the idea of the Soon Androids slowly becoming a race of people post-TNG era.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2019 15:58 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:and obviously ‘These Are The Voyages’ is worse Never heard of it. Enterprise's Terra Prime wasn't bad though.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2019 18:43 |
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The Bloop posted:Dynamic! Exciting! Absolutely bonkers! In defense of DISCO which I haven't watched, I don't mind a Star Trek show being more experimental with it's direction so long as it makes sense if that makes any logical sense.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2019 00:21 |
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The Bloop posted:Amazing thing happens in one episode and then is not celebrated or researched and does not become a major part of the show IS Star Trek, though. To be fair, think about how many students write thesis in Universities every year that will never be studied. I wrote Master's thesis/capstone that no one will probably ever see or read again.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2019 03:52 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s Neelix by 10 miles There is a really good moment she has in Best of Both Worlds when RIker insists on leading the away mission and calmly points out... "It would be inappropriate for you to lead an away mission." It's one line but it shows a kind of wasted potential of the actress and the character. She is a calming force, she knows the protocol and Riker will listen to her above anyone else. Neelix never gets anything close to that. He should of been a guide to the Delta Quadrant and it's weirdness but they never want to seem to pull the trigger.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2019 15:33 |
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Timeless Appeal posted:It sucks because the real goal should be what if Star Trek but gay and also really gay. I think you mean what if Star Trek but Riker and also Riker.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 02:53 |
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The Bloop posted:YTMND ruled, though Fixed that for you. But yes!
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2019 15:53 |
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TheCenturion posted:Everybody knows HRPGs have better immersiveness and world building, but VRPGs have wacky storylines and better jiggle physics. Meanwhile, Bajor our of nowhere with Pah-Wraither 3. Geralt of Dakhur is awesome. Hello my name is M'Keth, Klingon WARRIOR and today I am playing Galaxia Conquer VLI. I'll be playing as the puny one planet empire called the Gorn from the pre-Klingon/Federation Alliance era. Please subscribe to my Holotwitch channel or be destroyed!
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2019 17:50 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:What exactly about the Trek "political landscape" do you want further developed? TNG didn't bring a lot to the table as far as astropolitics goes; the Klingon Empire is rotten at the top with corruption, the Cardassian war gets retconned in as this supposedly traumatic conflict, and the Romulans are running around trying to stir poo poo up. The latter two are pretty much just plot devices to drive the actual stories the writer wanted to tell. A few things come to mind: 1) First and foremost the Federation is pretty much the dominant galactic super power in the galaxy. It would be interesting to see the allegory to the United States now. How can you live out your ideals and forestall corruption when you are given that much power. 2) With Martok and Worf in charge of the Klingon Empire would they bring back any reforms to the Klingon Empire. Enterprise pulled on a thread that could be explored about Klingon Scientists and other aspects of Klingon's that are not soaked in the idea of combat is the only way to build a society. 3) How would the Dominion's first defeat in thousands of years impact the Gamma Quadrant? Would there be more open rebellion, could we see other powers in the Gamma Quandrant? 4) How would Voyager's knowledge of the Delta Quadrant its species effect the future as well? There are tons of stories to be told in those 4 points alone! And as people have pointed out in this thread before, Star Trek is suppose to be about looking forward. The fact that Picard is the first Star Trek IP in decades that looks beyond its original series and premise is astounding. For whatever reasons the suits at Paramount think of Star Trek as the 60s TOS series and its holding the franchise back.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 00:20 |
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fyi DS9 will now be shown on BBC America.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2020 15:59 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:That owns, BBCA does like full-day Trek marathons on the reg. and TNG.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2020 16:15 |
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bull3964 posted:Rewatching "The Best of Both Worlds" for the umpteenth time. It's really crazy how well this nearly 30 year old episode of TV holds up today. The cinematography is about the only thing that's pedestrian by today's standards. Other than that though, the writing, pacing, editing, and acting remains on point. Even the special effects are good by today's standards and would actually beat some of the budget CGI that's on genre TV. It has a low key great Troi moment in it that also tells you how much they waste the character. Her telling Riker in part 1 that it's inappropriate for him to lead the away team. Cool, calm, collected but also willing to stand up to someone when they are making a wrong decision. So many great moments in that episode obviously but I think its a scene that deserves another look.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2020 17:20 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Shelby is also good and I wish that wasn’t her only appearance I think that also dates the show just a smidge. In a streaming service era, shelby would have a few appearances here and there. It works on one level since the character won't get ruined but on the other hand she was a great addition and good shake up to the episode it worked well.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2020 17:28 |
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The Bloop posted:Someday you'll be able to plug your wang directly into the computer and spin it and also have access to the United States nuclear codes for whatever reason.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2020 17:37 |
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Delsaber posted:Son what's the deal with this big omega symbol that keeps popping up, do I have a virus? Hello, I am a former Klingon High council members and unfortunately left stranded on a nearby moon. if you forwrad me 5 bars of latinum plus your bank of bolus number, I will pay you back for a shuttle trip plus extra for the effort.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 03:30 |
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I forgot how mean Jadzia's death is and feels almost retaliatory.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 05:46 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
Like the whole episode is disrespectful to Jadzia and Worf. Oh look your life will see a bit of happiness during this awful war. Lol just kidding get ripped apart by an angry god who then apologies to you as being an unfortunate target.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2020 15:58 |
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Powered Descent posted:It's vanishingly rare but pop-culture things do sometimes persist for centuries in the real world. Robinson Crusoe was published just over 300 years ago, and his name, the entire "castaway story" genre, and even some specific story elements (e.g. his man Friday) are still present in the popular consciousness to this day. Don Quioxte, the Canterberry Tales, Shakespeare's works, Huck Finn, the Scarlett Letter, there is all sorts of stuff that has lasted hundreds of years off hand. Probably helps there were ways to store the stories.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2020 23:32 |
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FuturePastNow posted:baseball Vulcans don't make any sense, but I think that was the point Vulcans probably love all the statistics and weird rules of baseball.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 03:54 |
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Epicurius posted:That's him. Ensign Vorik. Not to be confused with Lower Decks' Ensign Taurik. In this modern era of TV it would of been but all of Voyager seemed like they didnt want to pay for original characters from other writers so just filed down some names.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2020 17:48 |
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oh but seriously I posted:gene's first draft of the lyrics he wrote to screw the TOS theme guy out of royalties were just "gently caress bitches" over & over again. the network made him change it Fuuuuck biiiitcheees, get Muh uh uh ney. Fuuuck biiitches, get muh uh ney.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2020 01:38 |
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Gorelab posted:I feel like Voyager mostly just has way more mediocre episodes than TNG/DS9. And also spend way too long with Neelix Controlling Boyfriend as a thing. and not to besmirch acing abilities but both TNG/DS9 casts were mostly good to amazing actors. Voyager maybe had 3 or 4 on the main cast.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2020 02:35 |
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After Voyager they should of given the Trek franchise a 5 to 10 year break. Allow for new producers, new creative forces but sadly they worked the horse until the core foundation of what Trek was became lost. Doctor Who's 20 year hiatus did wonders for it, someone needed to recognize that for Trek.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2020 00:17 |
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HD DAD posted:Except CBS is actually doing a decent job with their show lineup, unlike UPN, who filled their non-Trek content with Tyler Perry and WWE. UPN gave up on 7 Days too soon and I will never forgive them.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2020 01:22 |
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Roadie posted:Now I'm imagining a terraforming specialist doing daily interstellar livestreams in the style of a Minecraft player. Today we are going to do a no salinated oceans run, now this tricky because there is a lot of luck involved...
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2020 17:04 |
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, it's not like everyone else also hasn't been hijacked and turned into the enemy. One of the most revered Captains in history destroys 40 ships and they are like uh....well...we get it?
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2020 01:30 |
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Reminder BBC America starts its DS9 marathon today.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2020 15:12 |
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In Theory was on today and I gotta say, Data could do better.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2020 22:34 |
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Lizard Combatant posted:My take on replicated food is that it's indistinguishable from the real deal except that that it's always the same. Ordering a cheeseburger or a loaf of bread is always the same recipe unless someone programs their own take. A tomato is always the same tomato over and over. There's a difference between replicating the raw ingredients and making it yourself and even more so when you grow the food. It's not that it tastes worse, just that after decades of eating it you can tell the difference. I mean it could also be like what impossible meat is like now. I had an impossible sandwhich from Dunkin Donuts and its fine, I like it enough, but isn't QUITE the same taste and feel of real meat.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2021 13:46 |
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Khanstant posted:Janeway is my favourite captain because of episodes like "Drone." If only she had the same compassion with... well you know, we don't gotta get into him rn. Janeway was totally down to let the surprise borg baby grow, Picard and Sisko would've gone straight for the aborgtion. Voyager basically suffers (amongst other things) from the fact that serialization as a thing people wanted was like 15 years later and it would of helped it immensely. Imagine if they actually picked up new non-federation crew members or could let baby borg stick around for a few episodes.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2021 15:52 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 09:37 |
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if I were ever in charge of the Star Trek franchise, I would put a blanket ban on time travel episodes or movies for at least 5 to 10 years. Like, its cliche and overused for Trek.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 18:36 |