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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

down with the winter palace!

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Aug 1, 2010

Augus posted:

if the whole thing is true (lol it is) Trump is literally being blackmailed into being a Russian agent which would be a very impeachable offense but congress is filled with Republicans so gently caress it nothing matters

i am suddenly feeling peckish for turtle soup

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Aug 1, 2010

Mr Hootington posted:

Tonight is the golden dawn of trump threads

i await our escort to the golden showers

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Aug 1, 2010

KiteAuraan posted:

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/833817667333140480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

So this is hosed. i can't find any info on this that isn't from a shady norweigan registered site, or someone funded by Ivan, Yuri and Drago, or literal Sputnik. nothing on borkbork social media, nothing on the IKEA news, nothing from stockholm pd. gently caress all but russian outlets.

gosh this doesn't raise an eyebrow about Trump's news sources at all

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Aug 1, 2010

gently caress You And Diebold posted:

Alex Jones harasses the parents of school shooting victims so he can pretend they're crises actors for his lovely website to make a buck, gently caress Alex Jones

Remember when people were asking how Trump would handle a mass shooting?

It's nice to know the answer in advance, isn't it?

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Aug 1, 2010

FirstAidKite posted:

Ed Balls, Edd Balls, and Eddy Balls

Does this man have testicles?

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

imagine how much of a psychological weakling you would have to be to see a riot like this and convince yourself this is the apocalypse our messianic piss-fuhrer warned us about

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Aug 1, 2010

KiteAuraan posted:

hilariously the description sounds less extreme than milo @ berkley. which was itself a weak riot as far as they go.

these are the kind of people who need fear to live; there is no getting out of bed, no going to work, no using a public restroom without a sizeable glass of fearohol

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Aug 1, 2010

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

what are the lottery odds on this leading to finding out that bannon is yet another one of putin's fascist plants

he practically is, even if he isn't

though he probably isn't

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Aug 1, 2010

Schnorkles posted:

Putin's relationship with Islam is significantly more complicated than anyone in the west.

Russia is nearly 20% muslim, and the slav population is collapsing while the muslim population is skyrocketing.

Hence why it would be super shocking if Putin actually wanted someone like Bannon in there, because there is way more that could go wrong for Putin with Bannon at the helm.

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Aug 1, 2010

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

nearly every fascist ideologue pushing anti-moslem sentiment in europe turns out to be either a russian national fascist plant or paid by putin to change their run-of-the-mill neocon views to anti-islam fascism

i'm not sure that's going to turn out the way he wants it to if reducing the muslim population is his intent

Even a former KGB spook with autocratic control over one of the world's largest nations can be fukken dumb

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Aug 1, 2010

Scent of Worf posted:

You seen that video of the off duty pig dragging a tiny 13 year old to his lawn and then pulling out a gun and letting off a shot?

The cop looked exactly like I thought he would too, so there's a plus.

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Aug 1, 2010

Trash Trick posted:

jesus loving christ

The one that ran around on twitter was bad enough, but those two minutes of leadup make it incredibly obvious what he is trying to do.

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Aug 1, 2010

Nichael posted:

What's going on with this exactly? Why are they being murdered?

I should note that one of those deaths was in 2015, and another was the guy shot in Turkey.

For the rest: who knows? Could be a show of power from Putin, perhaps a way of tidying up loose ends, or maybe the Kremlin is finally falling apart and this is a way of ensuring no one on the outside can possibly find out.

Wouldn't count on that last one, though.

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Aug 1, 2010

Mordiceius posted:

Just wondering, what would happen if I were to just tell them "No" or "why?"

You get ICEd

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

oh yeah by the way north korea has vx so have fun with that everyone

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Aug 1, 2010

Squizzle posted:

it got disruptuve to the point that it derailed like a page and a half of conversation and got a mod to six me up

and mods volunteer to try to keep the forums functioning and field complaints from fuckin goons in exchange for which they get even morecomplaints about how they handle said goons plus actual stalkers from offsites dedicated to fuckin w them

so I try to :respek: when a mod asks that we pull back on something

fo shizzle my squizzle

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

edit: screwed the slavic pooch

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Aug 1, 2010

tacodaemon posted:

i guess we're about to find out about today's mystery EO. boston globe was speculating it might be a weed one but nobody knows

"North Korea is now illegal."

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Aug 1, 2010

Itzena posted:

no loving poo poo sherlock :tem:

gonna lol if it turns out there was actual vote manipulation

... and then I won't

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Aug 1, 2010


Yeah, Spicer is a little poo poo.

... unless that was from Trump, in which case :holymoley:

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Aug 1, 2010


"A great danger to our country", yeah no way that will lead to anything bad, nope nope nope nope NOPE NOPE NOPE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Aug 1, 2010

Duscat posted:

i mean, it just now turned out that murdersheriff David Clarke who looks like he literally came out of a Mirror, Mirror parallel universe was also that putin party with flynn and stein

Wait a loving second, Clarke was actually at that loving party?

Christ what an rear end in a top hat.

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Aug 1, 2010


Is this... learning?

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Aug 1, 2010


I think I heard a nuke launch.

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Aug 1, 2010

Shageletic posted:

I kinda agree? Making it about economic issues rather than just anti-Trump seems more like a sure thing (haha whatever).

My position as well, although I wasn't all that invested in how this DNC chair process concluded.

Tom Perez, however, is still an awful speaker.

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Aug 1, 2010

Yinlock posted:

yeah the fact that appointed ellison means he's at least trying which is still 100 miles above dws

at the very least it's more than Clinton ever did

... which isn't much at all, but y'know

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Aug 1, 2010

Epic High Five posted:

I hadn't even been aware of any coordinated campaign to block advertising with them like with Breitbart, I put it at 5:1 that he's just making it up

Alex Jones is... making something up?!

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

feeling redundant today so here's my third post about gorkamorka

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/24/51709...ontent=20170225

quote:

President Trump's counterterrorism adviser is under fire from his peers — and Sebastian Gorka is hitting back.

Just ask Michael Smith. He's a counterterrorism expert in Charleston, S.C., who specializes in online recruiting efforts and who has advised members of Congress on terrorism-related issues.

Smith says that at about 7 p.m. Tuesday, he received a call on his smartphone from a private number in Falls Church, Va. It was Gorka — not calling from a government line at his office at the White House.

"The statements made from the very beginning led me to believe that it was a prank call," Smith tells NPR. "Because he's calling me from a cellphone suggesting that he wants to talk about official business — specifically, elevating awareness of my tweets about him to White House legal counsel."

Smith has been a prominent critic of Gorka, questioning the 46-year-old British immigrant's qualifications to be Trump's new counterterrorism czar.

"I frankly was stunned that the administration would hire him to work in the White House on such critical issues as counterterrorism," says Smith, a Republican who voted for Trump. "This could blow up in our faces, to have basically an amateur working on such important policies and working with people like [White House chief strategist] Steve Bannon."

Much of Smith's criticism of Gorka has appeared on his Twitter account under the hashtag #FakeTerrorismExpert.

Gorka began their phone conversation by threatening to have a White House legal team review Smith's online jabs, Smith says.

"I believe it speaks to an absence of professionalism," Smith says. "I mean, to call somebody and posture intent to entangle that person in a legal battle with the White House — that's a call that should be made on an official White House line so there's a full recording of it for the public record."

So about five minutes into their conversation, Smith began recording the call. Here's one excerpt:

Gorka: Why, why is there such vitriol pumping out of you constantly every day now? It's so strange. I look at your Twitter feed, you know, once or twice a day and again, it's half a dozen tweets about me and I've never met you.

Smith: Wow. Are you defeating jihad by monitoring or trolling my Twitter feed? I mean honestly, to begin, you've called ...

Gorka: Oh, if that's your answer, if that's your explanation ...

Smith: ... you've called, you've called as a White House official, you have called an American citizen ...

Gorka: Yes, I have.

Smith: ... and begun the conversation very confrontationally by accusing me of animus toward you. Of which I'm attempting to explain, there is no animus towards you: I believe that you are a charlatan.

[At another point in the conversation, Gorka recapitulates what he said before Smith began recording the call]

Gorka: Before I do anything and show these materials to legal counsel, tell me why you're doing it.

Smith says Gorka's initial harsh tone softened during the call.

"I think it occurred to him that he may be approaching things in such an unprofessional manner that I could perhaps bring that to light in such a way as to harm his career working in government," Smith says. "He probably recognized that his conduct was so unbecoming."

Gorka did not respond to NPR's repeated requests for comment on this story. He did appear on Morning Edition earlier this month to talk about the counterterrorism raid that Trump ordered in Yemen and the administration's positions about Israeli settlements.

As for his conversation with Smith, Gorka invited him during the call to come to the White House to discuss the matter "face to face, man to man." They agreed to meet there on March 8.

That invitation was rescinded the next day.

"Given your statements for the latest attack piece and continued disparaging Tweets against not only myself but the administration and president," Gorka wrote in an email to Smith, "consider your invitation to meet withdrawn."

Despite having authored the best-selling 2016 book Defeating Jihad: The Winnable War, Gorka was not well-known in Washington before his arrival at the Trump White House.

"This is somebody who has been kind of excluded from a lot of mainstream conversations for a long time," says James Carafano, a military expert at the Heritage Foundation and a member of the Trump transition team. "And if there's one thing Seb is well-practiced at, it's about not being ignored."

In a December interview with Fox News, Gorka declared: "The era of the pajama boy is over January 20th — and the alpha males are back."

Gorka seemed to illustrate that point three days after Trump won the presidency, at a gathering in Palm Beach, Fla.

"I'm gonna start with something a tad naughty," he told a giddy crowd of Trump supporters. "We are happy. But I am going to show a picture I'm not meant to show usually."

A grisly photo was then projected onto a large screen of the body of an insurgent lying face down, with an AK-47 at its side. "We can win now," Gorka roared before the cheering crowd. "We can win!"

"Gorka is a showman," says Paul Pillar, a former chief of counterterrorist analysis at the CIA who is now a fellow at Georgetown University. "Gorka is not taken seriously as an analyst of terrorism or international affairs in the serious academic community."

Still, Trump's top counterterrorism adviser has gotten a lot of attention.

That's due in good measure to Gorka's fierce public defense of the president's executive order temporarily barring the entry of refugees and the people of seven predominantly Muslim nations.

"The border is our front door," Gorka told an approving crowd at this year's Conservative Political Action Conference outside Washington, D.C. "Surely we should have a control as to who enters our house. This is the house of America, and the idea that we don't control it is crazy!"

Such views alarm Gorka's critics.

"It is dangerous and counterproductive to allege, as Gorka does, that the struggle against terrorism and political violence is basically a struggle against Islam," says Georgetown's Pillar. "Unfortunately, the doctrine that Gorka articulates is reflected in much of what President Trump and, earlier, candidate Trump have been saying."

At another recent gathering, Gorka described a global jihadi war that extends to every American home.

"The front line in this war," he told defense contractors and special operations personnel, "is when you step out of your house in the morning. That's the front line."

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Aug 1, 2010

Dolash posted:

All this assumes that the Trump era will play out like American politics mostly has for the last few decades, of course. Maybe he'll outlaw the Democrats or limit voting rights to permanently cripple them or just incinerate us all in nuclear hellfire while we bicker.

He was planning on talking with a North Korean representative until said rep got their visa cancelled by the state department.

I cannot POSSIBLY explain why we are so totally going to get gassed to death with VX.

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Aug 1, 2010

Leviathan posted:

i'm just praying the russia thing doesn't wear out within a couple months. he definitely has something to hide or else he would've released his tax returns and allowed for a select committee investigation.

Bear in mind, we still have the matter of Dmytro Firtash to deal with, as well as the mutual funding of Cambridge Analytica he shares with Robert Mercer.

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Aug 1, 2010


What kind of president doesn't eat his beef raw?

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Aug 1, 2010


the diet of a child

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Aug 1, 2010

watch as it turns out Trump was planning to invade Russia all along and knob-slobbing putin was just a big fat lie. joke's on us!

hhooooooooooooooooo

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Aug 1, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

whats sad/lovely is that none of that money will go to anything really useful in the military. just making more stupid poo poo we will eventualy sell to some shithole like saudi arabia or sell to cops here. we won't do anything about the infastructure on various auxillary stuff. or vets or better armor.

Par for the course, unless he unveils the construction of more nuclear-capable warheads.

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Aug 1, 2010

Dapper_Swindler posted:

hasnt he said he was going to already.

oh, right.

well this one's going to be even bigger, better, and the fallout particles will be soaked in urine

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

so do scientists sign a contract locking them in a perpetual state of hopeless naivete or what

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

check the date, y'all

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Aug 1, 2010

Fullhouse posted:

the leaks are coming from.... inside the Spice???????????

the spice must leak

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Aug 1, 2010

Xibanya posted:

lol if we cut aid to Israel

That would be amazing, and plausible if Bannon's going all-in with the already overt antisemitism.

On the other hand, holy moley what the hell are we planning to do if we're abandoning Israel of all nations?

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