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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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kustomkarkommando posted:That feel when Labour voters quietly mumble thanks to the unelected ermine fringed upper house Second largest Lords vote turnout of the modern era too, according to this http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/LIF-2017-0014 This puts May's "Article 50 by the end of March" timetable in doubt, unless the Government accepts the amendment.
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Dead Goon posted:I wonder if Baron Lloyd-Webber managed to turn up? He was mentioned in passing tweets as being there. Incidentally, for all your House of Lords needs, can I recommend following Esther Webber @estwebber who covers the place for the BBC, and who is much more amusing than strictly necessary for the role.
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Mar 1, 2017 20:59
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Where's the 36 grand p/a pension from? That's not the Leader of the Opposition increment in the wrong column is it?
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Mar 5, 2017 23:50
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Namtab posted:He's a pensioner, mp pension probably. Back of the envelope calculation says that this is likely the right answer, assuming 1/50th accrual. Lucky MPs, getting to vest pension rights, and still draw the salary.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:08
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OwlFancier posted:I'm curious as to what Jez's explanation for the discrepancy is. Simplest answer is that he doesn't take the extra salary, maybe.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:10
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OwlFancier posted:I was wondering that because I would have thought that leader of the opposition would be a labour party salary rather than a governmental one. No it's a government one. Shadow Chief Whip gets paid more too, I think.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:16
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OwlFancier posted:Huh, odd, I know the PM gets more but I thought everyone else was just a sort of fiat position created by the government. Page 3 of this pdf breaks down who gets more than basic MP salary https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-information-office/m06.pdf
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Mar 6, 2017 00:23
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OwlFancier posted:I also apparently didn't know that the PM salary was paid on top of the MP salary. The PM still has the same responsibilities as an ordinary MP towards their constituency, so it makes sense to do it that way. The loss of opportunity for a constituent of a PM to actually meet their MP is more than handsomely compensated by the heft that the constituency office gains - no council official will welcome a call from the PMs office about Mrs Miggins' blocked drain, after all.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:38
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Pistol_Pete posted:lol if we endup shamefacedly knocking the whole idea on the head in 2019. This is currently the best-case scenario. "Sorry everyone, rush of blood and all that"
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Mar 8, 2017 00:14
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and i must meme posted:How bad is it really going to get? Like is everyone just overreacting or is this really going to be as bad as people are implying? It has the potential to be a disaster, an unprecedented act of economic suicide for a mature western democracy. There is no aspect of our national life that will not be impacted by Brexit. There is no outcome that will be better than the status quo. The Government hasn't even began to grasp the scale of the task ahead of them, and the Civil Service who will be tasked with the gigantic amounts of work needed is not remotely capable of carrying all that work out in any timely fashion. The resources just aren't there. So that's all good.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:37
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jBrereton posted:There are outcomes that would be better than the status quo, which is mediocre training and stagnant/falling wages for a lot of British workers, especially young men. Certainly further education could do with some improvement and a perception that we might have to train people properly instead of just importing them could help with that. I hope you are right. Losing tarriff-free access to the gigantic market on our doorstep isn't exactly going to help with the wages aspect though.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:54
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kingturnip posted:I'm not sure this is accurate. My take is that the Govt is starkly aware of how hosed they are and are busy publically ostriching and dead-catting to avoid having the red-tops ask just when May will be ready to give Jerry and Francois a good kicking. They are certainly starting to realize, I think, with some of the bigger ticket items. Something like the Euratom agreement seemed to be complete news to them, and there'll be thousands of knotty problems buried deep in the last four decades worth of legislation.
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Mar 11, 2017 21:59
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jBrereton posted:We'll see what happens with regards to everything in due course. Wouldn't throw yourselves on a calamity that hasn't happened yet, though, bad for your health. The Tories in Parliament aren't fully on board at all. There's a handful in the Commons who've already rebelled, and more who would do so if there was a chance that a Govt motion could be defeated. But that is contingent on there being a majority against. That stupid oval office Corbyn whipped *for* the Government position. It really is the perfect storm of idiocy. It's all David Cameron's fault though. A Prime Minister in control of his own party - and he had a decade to do so - would never have allowed such a daft open ended referendum. A rich boy, playing the game of politics as a game, and playing it badly. drat him.
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Mar 12, 2017 01:24
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jabby posted:gently caress off. Article 50 had no chance of being blocked regardless of the whipping position of Labour. The amendments had Labour support and the Tories didn't rebel on them in any significant numbers. A government with a narrow majority needs to be opposed (or at least held to account) robustly. Every day, every vote, every TV slot, every radio slot, every attack countered, every position analysed. Oh sorry, I forgot; the London oval office student debating society are in charge, preening themselves in an ideological mirror, loving up for actual working class people.
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Mar 12, 2017 02:12
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forkboy84 posted:And yes, Article 50 is revocable in a legal sense That hasn't been tested in the court that can decide that matter. The recent UK court cases proceeded on the basis that A50 is irrevocable - by agreement by both sides - so if the SC didn't kick it up to CJEU then that's that.
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Mar 14, 2017 00:42
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Jose posted:Osborne just got himself a new job as the editor of the evening standard I follow far too many media types on twitter. My feed is now just a procession of journos tweeting the word "What"
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Mar 17, 2017 12:32
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MikeCrotch posted:The amount of insanely bad ideas that Churchill came up with and managed to get put into practice is staggering. Have you read Alan Brooke's Diaries? The ratio insanely bad ideas:got put into practice is maybe not what you thought.
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Mar 17, 2017 22:39
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Paxman posted:Sometimes, spirits in the Labour Party can run high A rallying cry for the ages.
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Mar 20, 2017 23:59
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Paxman posted:He sounds to me like a Play School presenter explaining that Big Ted *chortle* can sometimes be a bit naughty. This is why the round window is not the correct window, boys and girls.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:00
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Pochoclo posted:Looking forward to much more stringent immigration controls that will help prevent absolutely nothing. Various newsy twitterers are naming the perp as Abu Izzadeen, who was born as Trevor Brooks in Hackney, so maybe not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Izzadeen
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Mar 22, 2017 20:07
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c0burn posted:https://twitter.com/RymMomtaz/status/844628115074809856 Channel 4 News just lost a lot of money in a libel case if this is true.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:31
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Cerv posted:He could theoretically sue, but the judge would laugh him out of court when they got on to he damage to his reputation. Yeah, having read up on the twat it's clear that - while he was undoubtedly libeled - the damage to his reputation is going to be in the tens of pounds range, if that.
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Mar 22, 2017 22:32
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LemonDrizzle posted:
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