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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I have this mental image of that day coming and going without even a real decision about whether they're going to go through with it in any form or not. How possible is that?

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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Phrosphor posted:

Remember how everyone absolutely lost their poo poo when the UK ran out of KFC chicken for like 4 days in March last year? Turns out that was just a preparedness exercise for wrecksit.

2018 was a big year so I totally understand if you forgot.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/20/kfc-chicken-shortage-causes-chaos-police-tell-customers-stop/
I want to read an interview or something with someone who called the police. What kind of person are they?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
The human mind is fundamentally flawed where situations we have never experienced don't feel real until they happen no matter how well they can be predicted.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Is KFC Britain's only fried chicken option or something?

I mean, here in Japan it doesn't have much competition for that exact style of fried chicken, but I thought Britain's closer cultural ties with the US would mean there would be more.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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hobbesmaster posted:

KFC is the worst fried chicken chain in the US. In other countries is at least maybe say zaxby's tier.
Japan's KFC is better than the US's in some ways, yeah. I still don't go there much, not when there's tatsuta chicken to eat.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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FMguru posted:

Interesting Username/Av/Post synergy

And sometimes American fast food brands have different connotations in overseas markets, yes? I think Pizza Hut is actually a fancy dress-up destination in Asia (which leads to some very funny scrambled expectations when tourists from Asia come to the US)
I've been using this avatar and username so long they've lost all meaning for me so I didn't even notice.

Yeah, going into a new culture, chains like that have an opportunity to present themselves as a little higher class than back home and both KFC and Pizza Hut do that.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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Cao Ni Ma posted:

The things that pass as pizza in korea/japan should not be suffered by anyone except Rhode Islanders
Nah Japan has some good pizza.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Leaving aside racism we all have intrusive thoughts that can be violent or otherwise against society but Liam is a member of a very small group of people who acted on them, even if he didn't ultimately find anyone to kill.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
In 1996 my teacher was like "the Internet isn't going to make it easier to get information it's gonna make it easier to ignore it" and I scoffed. I was a dumb kid.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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JFairfax posted:

KPMG said its sees the probability of the United Kingdom leaving with a Brexit deal of some kind at around 55 percent; the chances of a no-deal Brexit at around 30 percent; and the chances of no Brexit at 15 percent.
15 seems really low to me.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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JFairfax posted:

30% for no deal seems worryingly high lol
Seriously though how many people would be pissed enough to do something if that day came and went and nothing happened?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something. If the day comes and neither the UK nor the EU take any action, what does that mean? Is the UK still part of the EU or not?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

JFairfax posted:

It means the UK is not part of the EU
Oh. I thought the EU would have to officially say on that day that the UK is out.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

The Brits sovereignly started the timer to leave the EU take back control two years ago, the EU doesn't have the ability to stop it, outside doing a daring raid to seize all their nukes and then occupying England. Only Remainers can stop this train.
Is it automatic on the UK's side? what if the day comes and goes and no one says anything? Will the EU regard the UK as not part of them anymore?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
What I don't get though is, who gains from the EU kicking them out in that scenario?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I can definitely imagine meat becoming a sometimes food for many families following post-Brexit tariffs and stuff. Could be an interesting experiment in vegetarianism, for the rest of the world to watch anyway.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I don't understand how Brits can even give an opinion on a political party right now.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
What would happen if they were literally in the middle of a vote to delay at 11pm? I'm trying to imagine the most idiotic possible outcome.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
What's the game plan behind proposing deals only to have them overwhelmingly defeated?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
How many Leavers are like "oh goody, an exclusive trade deal negotiated with Donald J Trump"?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Wait, can May herself just say nah no Brexit to the EU?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
How about just kicking the can down the road for the rest of eternity?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
So May didn't need an act of Parliament in order to delay brexit? I thought she did.

Edit: nevermind I misunderstood. I thought she needed parliament's approval to go ask for it, not to get it after they already offered it.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I thought I didn't understand, and then I thought I understood, and now I think I don't understand again. Does May need to ask Parliament to approve one of these two possible extensions, or is some kind of extension automatic now?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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CactusWeasle posted:

This is current as of 4 minutes ago, meaning it's probably changed already

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1109094644917374976
I've seen a lot of flowcharts over the last few months but I don't think they have been representing what has actually happened very well.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
"Potentially dead third meaningful" is a hell of a combination of words to string together.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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JFairfax posted:






sorry these are not bigger
So, a large chunk of Brits have no idea what they actually want so their differences in responses are just based on the superficial language?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Randler posted:

The UK and the EU already agreed to an extension, so under Article 50 the UK leaving the EU is already legally postponed until 12 April 2019.

However, the UK has passed a piece of national legislation that says the UK will leave the EU on 29 March 2019. Now, from an international (incl. the EU) legal perspective, the UK cannot unilaterally change the agreed upon Brexit date, i.e. the agreement between the EU and the UK supersedes that, so the UK is still a member of the EU, regardless of what the national legislation of the UK says.

Given, however, that UK politics are not only perfidious (cf. history) but also extremely stupid (cf. history, in particular the last 3 years), it's conceivable that the UK will not adjust their national legislation. In that case, the UK might think it is no longer a EU member starting 29 March 2019, while the EU, the other Member States of the EU and other state might still consider the UK a member of the EU. This is basically the maximum chaos scenario with the UK becoming the nationstate equivalent of a sovereign citizen.
Has that kind of thing (states B and C think state A is part of a treaty or something, state A disagrees) happened before?

Edit: in the modern world of nation-states, I mean. Obviously all kinds of crazy arrangements happened before then.

Samurai Sanders has issued a correction as of 00:45 on Mar 28, 2019

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Some of those are at least closer to 50% than I imagined.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Reading through all that stuff today makes me think, is there any basis for my feeling that the group actions of an organization like the UK Parliament strongly resembles the actions of a single three and a half year old child?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Is Parliament trying to make other, normal decisions during this time also, or has it just been Brexit related decisions day in and day out for months?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Jazerus posted:

so just hypothetically, what if there are no votes to pass anything at all

can't dissolve government, can't brexit, can't not brexit, etc
I think it's just a look at the future of all democracy. Everyone is defining their beliefs on what they don't want, rather than what they want.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

no, that was the UK's old deadline. they voted to extend it to april 12th
They did? That vote was actually successful, in between all the no votes for everything else?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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SKULL.GIF posted:

honestly by this point if I was a Brit I'd just want a Brexit just to get it over with and start working on the next steps
I still have a strong feeling that that's the one thing that Brits aren't gonna get. Imagine a cat standing half in and half out of a door forever.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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Reality Winter posted:

In the United Kingdom, TMNT was originally released under the name Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (TMHT). This was due to the controversy surrounding ninjas and related weapons such as nunchaku at the time.[23] 
I've heard that before, but also that the Ninja turtles are the ones who originally connected nanchaku (and all the rest of their weapons other than swords) with ninjas in the first place.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I love how Trump is an implicit part of Brexit even in porn parodies.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Grondoth posted:

Why aren't the conservatives voting for... anything

They won't vote for may's deal, they won't vote for any of the alternatives, they won't vote for no deal

the gently caress do they want?
I was reading a while ago about that old question about whether God can make a rock so big he can't lift, and one solution is that God can create such a rock, but then also lift it. It doesn't make any logical sense but that's ok because he's God.

I don't think UK conservatives are God though.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

Proposals to avoid crashing the car into the wall
  1. vote to not crash into wall: passed 3 - 0
  2. vote to apply brakes: failed 1 yes - 2 no
  3. vote to turn steering wheel left: failed 1 yes - 2 no
  4. vote to turn steering wheel right: failed 1 yes - 2 no
But the UK voted to crash into the wall two years ago...?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
In ten days is May going to go beg for another extension?

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

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Yeah, I can totally imagine it becoming a literal part of the government, the same as India and Pakistan's ritual contests over Kashmir.

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