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Flowers For Algeria posted:Also it'd have been pretty hypocritical given that Obama turned out to be a war criminal himself. You do understand that "war ceiminal" has an actual goddamn definition, and doesn't mean "he didn't immediately disband all levels of the us military and then hand Iran nukes", right?
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Apoplexy posted:Yeah, I'm not Obama's biggest fan, but he didn't do anything but continue with poo poo Bush started. If he'd ceased all drone warfare and attempts to stamp out terrorism all throughout the Middle-East, there'd have been repercussions. The kind that Americans wouldn't accept, as opposed to 'dead foreigners' He also, and this is a big deal, discontinued the torture that was the actual war crime of the Bush adminisyration. That, and invading a country based on falsified information without approval by the U.N. security. And because some edgy dumbfucks is going to go "Bu-bu-buh Libya", that was joining a war declared BY a U.N. security council partner, based on factual information.
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enraged_camel posted:"Policy" matters only if the person pushing for it has the political experience necessary to enact it. Oh please. Trump doesn't fail to understand how government works because he is a business owner. Trump fails to understand how government works because he is a colossal loving moron of the highest order, a man who is simultaneously senile, an alpha male jock douchebag, has a slow brain that does not learn information well, with a toddlers sensibilities and capacity for attention, and is actively hostile to the very concept of facts and reality. We all know that he doesn't understand basic civics, but that absolute rock bottom stupidity that puts him behind most third graders, kind of redundantly, puts most third graders ahead of him. As in, as long as someone isn't as actively and fiercely opposed to the very concept of knowing things and understanding things as a republican, that poo poo ain't some mystery that eludes the greatest of all scholars. C'mon, you seriously expect me to believe that you'd need to be the governor of California for 3 years to understand that the court is able to strike down an executive order for being unconstitutional? Or that a bill needs to reach consensus in order to pass the House? You have got to know that saying that all business owners are just as stupid as Putins puppet is hugely disingenuous. In years past, then the skills learned at the lower levels were essential for a POTUS. Wheeling and dealing across the aisles, winning them over with charm and knowledge of where the bodies are buried, these were finely honed skills. THe problem is that those skills are utterly and completely obsolete in the modern political era. Bipartisanship and working across the aisle is well and truly dead. Hell, they actively hurt you - look at Obama. It is undeniable that his belief in bipartisanship and cooperation were huge flaws that cost him a lot. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 11:21 on May 30, 2017 |
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Drone posted:Oh they're laughing, Donnie. Just not in the way you think they are. How in the gently caress are Trump or any Republican Russians spies adversaries?
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Flowers For Algeria posted:So pursuing a war criminal's policy, expanding bombings into Yemen, striking civilians and civilian targets there as well as in Syria and Pakistan, is all perfectly okay and not criminal at all. Yes, dumbfuck. THere is a legal definition for war criminal, and "doing things I don't like" is not it.
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BattleMaster posted:The Republicans definitely view the nice Russian men as friends while the Russian spies know they're taking the Republicans for a ride I give the Republicans enough credit to know that they are selling their country out in exchange for Russians interfering in elections to help them. THey just don't see any problem with that.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Why don't you go read it then. If you are that godddamn dense. • wilful killing; • torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments; • wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health; • extensive destruction or appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly; • compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power; • wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of a fair and regular trial; • unlawful deportation or transfer; • unlawful confinement; • taking of hostages; • committing outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating or degrading treatment and desecration of the dead; • enforced sterilization; • compelling the nationals of the adverse party to take part in military operations against their own party; • killing or wounding a combatant who has surrendered or is otherwise hors de combat; • declaring that no quarter will be given; • making improper use of distinctive emblems indicating protected status, resulting in death or serious personal injury; • making improper use of the flag, the military insignia or uniform of the enemy resulting in death or serious personal injury; • killing or wounding an adversary by resort to perfidy; • making medical or religious personnel, medical units or medical transports the object of attack; • pillage or other taking of property contrary to international humanitarian law; • destroying property not required by military necessity; • making the civilian population or individual civilians, not taking a direct part in hostilities, the object of attack; • launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated; • making non-defended localities and demilitarized zones the object of attack; • subjecting persons who are in the power of an adverse party to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are neither justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the person concerned nor carried out in his or her interest, and which cause death to or seriously endanger the health of such person or persons; • the transfer by the occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory; • making buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes or historic monuments the object of attack, provided they are not military objectives; • making civilian objects, that is, objects that are not military objectives, the object of attack; • using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including by impeding relief supplies; • making persons or objects involved in a humanitarian assistance or peacekeeping mission in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations the object of attack, as long as they are entitled to the protection given to civilians or civilian objects under international humanitarian law; • launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated; • using prohibited weapons; • declaring abolished, suspended or inadmissible in a court of law the rights and actions of the nationals of the hostile party; • using human shields; • conscripting or enlisting children under the age of 15 into armed forces, or using them to participate actively in hostilities; • making the civilian population or individual civilians, not taking a direct part in hostilities, the object of attack; • pillage; • committing sexual violence, in particular, rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, enforced sterilization and enforced pregnancy. • slavery and deportation to slave labour; • collective punishments; • despoliation of the wounded, sick, shipwrecked or dead; • attacking or ill-treating a parlementaire or bearer of a flag of truce; • unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of prisoners of war or civilians; • the practice of apartheid or other inhuman or degrading practices involving outrages on personal dignity based on racial discrimination; • launching an indiscriminate attack resulting in loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects; • launching an attack against works or installations containing dangerous forces in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects; If you start just declaring anything involving war at all to be a war crime, all you are doing is just devaluing the actual loving atrocities. And cue dumbfucks not understanding what object of attack means. VitalSigns posted:Military aggression is though. No it isn't you idiot. Military aggression has a different term applied to it. It is usually known as loving WAR! Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 12:54 on May 30, 2017 |
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Thank you for proving my point. Fulchrum posted:And cue dumbfucks not understanding what object of attack means. loving called it. Flowers For Algeria posted:I didn't know the US had declared war on Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, etc. And I didn't know that the US military was actively bombing the governments and military forces of Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, etc. Since, you know, that is what a war on them would actually constitute, and not a war against forces who are IN those places. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:01 on May 30, 2017 |
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FizFashizzle posted:The United States is not at war with the Syrian government? In that case, Turkey declared war and the US assisted alongside France.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I got a hospital in Afghanistan (a humanitarian-operated hospital in Afghanistan, no less) to remind you of. What part of object of attack is especially confusing to you? You do understand that the whole loving point of a war crime is it has to be intentional, not an error, right? As for the rest of your points, self righteous wanking about not closing Gitmo in spite of Congress rendering that impossible. Yeah, you sure aren't devaluing the loving atrocities up there by trying to prove he's technically committed something that if you drink heavily, almost sounds like a war crime. Gotta make sure we all know that Obama really is just as bad as Hitler. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:21 on May 30, 2017 |
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Tarantula posted:Pretty sure America does that. Those last two words are kind of important. This is talking about blowing up the goddamn Louvre, or ISIS destroying ancient sites, just because they can. It is not about forcing soldiers to say "uh oh, he went inside a building. Well, guess we need to give up." Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 13:22 on May 30, 2017 |
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GOOCHY posted:In TrumpLand, it's not the heinous policies and unhinged Twitter rants that are the problem, it's just how they're communicated. That's been the GOP guiding principle since 2009.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Look at this post. Right, its me trying to explain nuance to a smug dumbass.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:It's you engaging in desperate apologia for war crimes committed by the Obama administration on the tune of "oh it's not that bad", "no but there's worse elsewhere" and "well you can't call us Hitler." And you are engaging in desperate Rallian "Obama? You mean THE NEW HITLER!" "...Drones?" bullshit because you cannot get it through your thick skull that war crimes are very very very bad things that are treated seriously and not something that you just apply based off of if you want to feel smug and can torture logic enough to misunderstand the criteria. Its classic dumbfuck leftist. Its amazing how you don't need to misunderstand everything about the sentence or completely divorce it from all meaning to understand Bush's war crime. It forbids torture. He engaged in torture. Very open and shut. Meanwhile, to justify calling Obama a war criminal, you need to somehow call targetted precision drone strikes indiscriminate attack. I.e. loving carpet bombing.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:You're the only one dragging Hitler into this, Fulchrum. No, invoking war crimes is dragging Hitler into this, since that's the level you are claiming Obama is on.
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SocketWrench posted:You know you're arguing with someone that likely voted Johnson to be an edgelord, if they're even old enough to vote at all Good point well made, disengaging with dumbfuck now.
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I must have missed the part where Obama declared the Yemen and Pakistani governments null and void and declared them official and legal property of the United States government. I know this is hard to understand with your head that far up your rear end, but one of the defining features of a war of aggression is it being carried out not out of self defense. So trying to kill members of a terrorist organization that wants to attack the US, can not fall under that category by definition, and you bitching and moaning that it's not really self defence because you think that it should be done by hug robots doesn't matter a single goddamn bit. Paracaidas posted:Oh,stewardess! I speak Deak. I figured that since the "that" in "not that bad" refers to a war crime, which by definition covers the most awful, unjustifiable things you can do in a time of war, then "not that bad" and "awful, but not actually atrocious" were the same things. TildeATH posted:You probably think all this techbro stuff is overblown. Trump is a bloated Boomer asshat with no real understanding of how the modern world works. Zuck has been at the wheel of the most powerful social media company, has gobs more money, and is basically the same raw id squeezed into a lovely pullover and sandals. And LBJ was the same raw id in a pair of pants that dug into his balls, the hell is your point? Unzip and Attack posted:While it's true that the Kathy Griffin thing isn't going to drive away otherwise reasonable people who will now vote R, this is just the sort of thing that gives the Right even the tiniest opening to convince apolitical people to stay home and not vote at all, which does hurt the Dems. The den nominee in 2020 is going to be openly talking about trying, convicting, and executing Trump. How is this gonna change anything? Alter Ego posted:Clinton won her primary decidedly uncomfortably in a field that was extremely thin and consisted of only one real challenger--a guy in his mid-70s who had never run in a national race. Not to mention a party apparatus that was extremely favorably disposed towards her cruising to the nomination. Gimme a break. He ran off of the collective griping and bitching anti-Hillary and anti-Dem sentiment that the left opened itself up to and readily consumed, and only blind refusal to drop out and stop normalizing those views gave the illusion he could win it. In a clown car you'd have 16 people splitting the Clinton hate. Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:"Power is a lot like real estate. It’s all about location, location, location. The closer you are to the source, the higher your property value.” That's way too coherent for Trump. "They say everything in life is about sex. I don't think that's true. But [unintellibile]. I think that's true. You have to win at sex. I always win at sex. A lot of things are really about sex. Golf, Steak, Real estate, My daughter, I like those things. It's all about sex. But I can't do politics like I do sex. I mean, I was just overseas, and the leader of Germany, did you know it's a lady? And not a great looking lady like my daughter, a real dog. Definitely couldn't have sex with her."
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We charged people with warcrimes at Nuremburg for crimes against peace. Aggression isn't magically less of a war crime just because this time we're attacking Arabs instead of Europeans.
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TildeATH posted:You are legitimately unhinged if you think LBJ and Mark Zuckerberg are alike in any way. Trump and LBJ, dumbfuck. Brash, bullying, crass, unwilling to change his decorum, prefers beating people into submission than working with them.
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Pellisworth posted:LBJ had more than three functioning brain cells and a huge dick. We are talking about personality type and base instincts, not skillset, if you had bothered to pay attention. Or do you think the penis and brain, and dealmaking, are both controlled by the id?
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oliveoil posted:How does this indicate they're going to implode? 50% of the kids still took a picture with him. 50% of adults voting GOP is all they need. Sounds like they're safe for another generation. 50% of kids not being so revolted they disobeyed their teacher and told Ryan to gently caress off is not 50% approval.
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Mister Adequate posted:Yeah but LBJ had a big ol' swinging dick to slap down on the table. Trump being a pathetic excuse for a human being doesn't change that both have the same goddamn alpha male id. TildeATH posted:You have no idea who LBJ was if you think he was the Trump of the 50s-60s. LBJ stuffed ballot boxes unashamedly. He whipped out his dick and yelled at journalists who questioned him on Vietnam. He chased women without caring they were married and made other heads of state watch him on the toilet. He would not have been dumb enough to get in bed with the loving Russians, but if he had a way to cheat shamelessly to steal the election, he would. If he was pissed off at Italy, he'd give them the finger on camera and not give a poo poo. Trump is absolutely LBJ if LBJ were completely loving brainless and a modern Republican. Id doesn't affect either of those things.
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Ze Pollack posted:fulchrum is still in the stage of denial where he needs Trump to have been some kind of Business Mastermind for his worldview to continue to function loving what? Trump is a brainless Russian puppet who rode Putin's hand up his rear end into the white house while the media and leftists happily scarfed down every steaming pile of Russian propaganda and Republican scandal they could get their hands on. When the gently caress did I say otherwise? Zil posted:Can we just agree that LBJ was at least smarter than Trump? Both dickheaded ego monsters for sure, but Trump gives off the impression of someone failing upwards their whole life. What part of "completely loving brainless" is confusing about this?
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Glazier posted:Look everyone, the New Republic figured out what Dems need to do to win in 2018, just double double down on conservative centrism! So, with the exception of "don't constantly yell that America is Satan and that Obama is a war criminal", its basically the leftists "stop pushing identity politics" thing. Stop trying to prevent gun violence, abandon Muslims and other minorities, never try to point out that Republicans are actually bad. All its missing is saying that racism is just a myth created by the rich and it'd be perfect.
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Crain posted:Yes. My coal country cousins from WV legitimately say they are against retraining, against altering the state's "industry identity", and want it to be coal or nothing. Remember that Hillary gave a speech about how she was the only candidate who had a plan for training out of work miners in coal country in new and emerging green energy industries, and literally the only thing that coal country actually heard was "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work", with everything else being white noise to them. Of course, thats also the only thing a lot of leftists heard as well. berserker posted:To a smart Democratic Party this would cement that whoever is on the 2020 ticket will run on a platform of climate change and staying in the Paris agreement. "If you elect me, we will stay in the Paris agreement, we will not abandon our children and our children's children" We'll see if the Democratic Party is smart. You mean like the candidate in 2016 did and the response from leftists was "gently caress YOU, BITCH, I'M VOTING GREEN!!!!!", "FRACKING!!!!!", "I don't believe you!", and "WHY WON'T YOU SUCK COALS DICK!"? St. Dogbert posted:The first person to come up with a feasible manner for removing stupid people's right to vote wins one hundred (100) brownie points. Sanity test before voting, testing if they understand basic facts of reality. The VRA and Katzenbach V. Morgan doesn't prohibit tests for voting, just specifically literacy tests. Basic science, math and reality can still be used as a barrier against letting the insane vote. Alternatively, declare it a 4 day weekened to vote and offer free rides to the closest polling place, but put all polling places in the big city, in the places that conservatives think of as "those" neighborhoods. VanSandman posted:Turns out if you extract economic wealth out of something black, you're likely a bad person. So all of you devs who made games for the Ps2, 3 and 4, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Arrgytehpirate posted:West Virginians are loving stupid and so hard for coal. Okay, but whats the excuse for leftists still saying that her speech was "gently caress all of you, I hope you die in a ditch. I really hate you on a personal level and want to laugh at your pain. Bye."
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The Insect Court posted:Because it was more condescending dismissive "The people have no jobs? Then let them eat job retraining programs" liberal elite cluelessness. And, you know, creating actual jobs there. But that doesn't fit your narrative, so gently caress it.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Noted Trump supporter and fat rear end Todd Starnes We didn't he just go all the way here? quote:You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac, El Dorado convertible, hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior, and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah. And I'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115 mph, getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder Cheese burgers from McDonald's in the old fashioned, non-biodegradable Styrofoam containers, and when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag, and then I'm gonna toss the Styrofoam container right out the side, and there ain't a goddamned thing anybody can do about it. You know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why. Two words, nuclear loving weapons, okay? Russia, Germany, Romania, they can have all the democracy they want, they can have a big democracy cake walk right through the middle of Tienanmen square, and it won't make a lick of difference. Because we've got the bombs, okay? John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen and as soon as we find the cure for cancer. We're gonna thaw out the duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiple that by 15 million times. That's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be! Evil Fluffy posted:
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skylined! posted:it's amazing how much you learn as you grow older, especially about yourself Its bizarre that in singing a song about being an rear end in a top hat, he would say assholish things. Must be what he genuinely thinks.
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Phyein posted:I want everyone to picture Jeff Sessions getting crushed by a steamroller. We could all use a laugh in these troubled times. I just see him getting back up afterwards and screaming at me in a high pitched voice about killing my brother. Grapplejack posted:That last bit I bolded is, in my opinion, one of the biggest political issues we're facing today. I disagree, in the sense that one party legitimately and objectively IS an existential threat and only wants to further the problems, not address them. So its half that Republican voters distrust and hate Democrats, and half that not enough people distrust and hate Republicans. Captain Monkey posted:Yeah, nobody takes Darth Windu seriously in this or any other thread. Ignore and move on man. He says while responding to Majorian. RuanGacho posted:Or lets just stop electing olds, they already have proven they have an inclination to doing things the way they've always been done and I would prefer to encourage soft revolution. Not no experience mind you but we surely have people who could do the job who haven't hit retirement age yet. So you'd support Marco Rubio for president? Or maybe you should admit that saying that there's some generational divide here is a myth. Xae posted:It is any Democratic contender. Period. If we can perfect the technology to pull their heads out of their anuses and make them admit that they played a part in getting Trump elected too. empty whippet box posted:Haha what a loving moron goddamn. Well, Sasse isn't good either, but yeah, Maher loving sucks. Feral Integral posted:Yeah like who is Mahers fanbase? rofl. the guy is about as unfunny as it gets I read an article a few months ago that suggested Maher got a huge boost in polls because he was the first talk show host to come back after CHristmas, and therefore got to position himself as a figure of protest against Trump.
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theflyingorc posted:He's also on PETA's advisory board. Suddenly all of those videos where they sexually objectify women to try and push vegetarianism make a lot more sense. Apoplexy posted:WTF. Rick Perry is doing the job expected of Secretary of Energy fairly adequately. Not trying to kill the institution outright with incompetence and corruption. There's no profit to be made in intentionally loving it up, and all he has to do to ensure it works right is go "do whatever the guy you had before who was way smarter than me told you to do." Its hard for even a Republican to gently caress that up.
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Terry Crews is an awesome and hilarious person whose only bad feature is that he chooses to be an awesome part of awful, awful movies. I will not hear a word against him.Aurubin posted:What if my hero is Hitler? Checkmate libtards. The guy ripped rear end constantly. High fiber high protein vegetarian diet. Like a goddamn Mel Brooks movie. Ragnar Homsar posted:The original comic was drawn by David Horsey, who's generally center-left. I can guarantee the original cartoon's intent was the opposite of the racist edit. Its hardly unique. When I was doing the helldump I stopped counting the number of right wing edits of liberal cartoons to say something hateful. They even did it to Latuff at one point.
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Deadulus posted:He is joining the gamer culture (ugh), but he did it to get closer to his son so seems like a pretty good dude. I like that he wanted to be apart of his son's interests instead of forcing his interests on his son. He also favors games like Overwatch and is in talks to voice a character in the game, which is undeniably awesome. SocketWrench posted:We should find a way to send Happy Gilmore on Trump's golf outings. It's a win win. Trump gets tackled and beat up, Adam Sandler gets shot by the Secret Service A reminder that an Adam Sandler movie predicted the Trump presidency.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I can't remember if I saw this here or in my news feed.
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Party Plane Jones posted:April, I think. Where he said "Congratulations" to the guy he was giving the purple heart to and you could see that man die a little more inside. Right, as opposed to his thing in August of a soldier showing off his purple heart, Trump taking it and saying "I always wanted one of these. This is a way easier way to get it". Dogwood Fleet posted:That number is closer to 20, gamer horribleness just got a lot more public is all. I'd widen it to 32. Gamers have been horrible ever since Nintendo remade it into a boys only club. Ogmius815 posted:No it's more than that. There's a pretty large segment of game hobbyist culture that is completely overrun by absolutely irredeemable shitheads. Most hobbies don't have such discrete pockets of absolutely vile humans. And what's more, they directly connect their vileness with their identity as "gamers".
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The Glumslinger posted:I'd say the difference is that you still get all of the same terrible hot takes from sports dudes, but they don't send death threats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tU-D-m2JY8 https://www.fastcompany.com/3059304/more-than-mean-tweets-female-sportswriters-stare-down-vicious-online-harassment https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/five-female-sports-reporters-and-the-disrespect-they-faced/article11719668/ http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/ffa-demands-end-to-death-threats-directed-at-journalist-wilson/6974440 Do you ever think to search before you make these kind of dumbass statements? Chilichimp posted:There has to be a better phrase to describe the Jontrons of the world other than "gamers". STAC Goat posted:Female sportscasters get a ton of poo poo but it actually seems like they're making progress relatively quickly and the industry as a whole supports them. Like, when Schilling spoke out against women calling sports he got widely poo poo on. Now there's this bizarre "backlash" with Jason Whitlock running around saying ESPN is "liberal media" and ruining sports that seems like the usual yelling at progress (although that probably has more to do with stuff like Kaepernick and Trump attacks but I assume the huge increase in women on ESPN is part of it). You're comparing the corporate side of sports with the culture side of gaming. On the corporate side, Gamergate did nothing but generate derision from studios, who are all actively moving to a more inclusive hiring process that has seen the number of women involved in the industry growing by years in every facet of prodution. Meanwhile, sports fans being douhebags isn't really stopping in any meaningful way. Like, sports fans are just as soaked in macho bullshit and toxic masculinity as gamers are.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Yeah well the content of twitch chat or any other place gamers congregate or talk with you disagrees with you. Whereas you get your rear end down to a Texas A&M tailgate party the day of the big game, all you're going to hear is "Now, I think these Black Lives Matters folks just an't being shown enough respect" and "If one of them muslims ever comes into our neighborhood, we gotta get together, and throw them a big ol' welcome barbecue. With beef and chicken only, mind, and non-alcoholic beers."
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axeil posted:The real issue is any nerd/male-dominated hobby seems to be utter opposed to any attempt at change or god forbid, women showing an interest and react violently to it. You don't see people sending in bomb threats because a woman showed an interest in craft beer. But with comic books, D&D, video games, sports, etc., that sort of violent, childish tantrum is common. And if it isn't violence it's being a complete and utter creep, gatekeeping and driving out any poor women who show the slightest desire to get involved. Like I said, poo poo got bad in 1985 when Nintendo decided to make gaming a boys only activity. axeil posted:The best/most ironic part of this is those who fight back against it get called out as being a "white knight" and almost every time a dude defends a woman being harassed online it's because "you just want to gently caress her." Since the only worth they see in women is as a sex object, they assume every other dude sees them the same as they do. Eh, lets be real, there are some nice guy dipshits who think that assisting a woman entitles them to sex. Anytime a guy calls another guy a white knight, its a surefire sign that the one doing the calling is an rear end in a top hat, but there are some guys who have grown up with that mindset.
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like a loving Ferengi, because again, to them women aren't the same level of human as they are.
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axeil posted:It's almost as if all hobbies/activities dominated by white men are filled with reprehensible idiots... Yeah, thats my point. People are acting as if gaming is the only hobby that attracts pieces of poo poo. Pretty much male power fantasy that defers the illusion of power by proxy (comic books, sports, conservative politics) is gonna attract jagoffs. Pikavangelist posted:I once saw someone suggest "cliff racers" for obnoxious douchefucks like that. Honestly, I'd have to agree. ....I don't get it.
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Mustached Demon posted:The? Son we're gonna need a spinning death wheel of guillotines. Sort of like one of those river boat paddle wheels but guillotines instead. So, a woodchipper?
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