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FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Anyone have an overview of the ruling Maoist party in Nepal's relationship with the CPC?
I'm kinda curious how the two interact since Nepal's Maoist revolution happened within the last two decades so I'm guessing there's still a lot of orthodox MLMs there. Though I imagine they can't be hostile since Nepal has been getting closer to China economically

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FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Spergin Morlock posted:

looking forward to the US going to war with the PRC over Taiwan and Russia over Ukraine at the same time lol

hell yeah battlefield 2/4 but irl

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

anyone know what the future outlook on healthcare in China and Vietnam is supposed to be? Is the current privatized model supposed to be a stopgap until they can transition to a socialized system or is it supposed to just keep going like that? they do seem to be progressively improving their social services and free healthcare seems like it’d be something that would be an eventual goal if they wanted to beat living standards in the rest of Asia and a pretty unambiguous step forward from an ideological perspective

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

has porn being all about banging stepfamily taken japan by storm too or is it just a sicko anglosphere phenomenon

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

the surge in that particular genre of Western porn is mostly up to the fetish of a specific oligarch that owns large swathes of the porn industry

everything comes back to capitalism

huh, really? I assumed there was some kinda algorithm gently caress up that lead to them getting a bizarre number of views and all the companies then trying to get on the bandwagon. like with those AI generated YouTube kids videos where frozen characters get caesareans or whatever

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

excuse me, sarcasm is a western invention and the collectivist oriental has no way of parsing it

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

mcclay posted:

Duterte will never break with the US so long as he is at war with the heroic Filipino Maoists

what’s the CPC’s relationship with them? the CPC seems to have cordial relations with the Nepalese Maoists though they lowkey supported the king during the war itself

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Nonsense posted:

China will grow larger
always thought it was weird that that game ended with the us collapsing and retreating into irrelevance while China takes over all of Eurasia with massive infrastructure programs considering how otherwise post 9/11 jingoistic it was

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

anyone remember when baizuo was the right’s word of the day bc they thought they could find common ground with Chinese netizens? I wonder how that’s going nowadays considering even if Chinese nationalists can be socially conservative they despise Americans talking poo poo about China most of all, and especially Americans blaming China for their own failings

it feels a lot of the vaguely pro Trump Chinese people have swapped to “haha look at how stupid Trump and America is with covid” or “gently caress America for pushing the lab leak theory”

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

checked out that Ukraine tweet and Huh https://mobile.twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1415950755584958465

is the russian communist party still controlled opposition? I vaguely remember hearing them having some issues with Putin recently

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

LimburgLimbo posted:

Yahoo Japan is literally a separate company and maintains relevance in the Japanese market, interestingly enough.

reminds me of when I went to China and found Lawson’s all over the place and then learned it was a huge multi billion dollar company in japan, while being from northeastern Ohio I mostly knew it as being that store boomers are nostalgic for for being a better version of circle k

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

have the Chinese plans for the next few years included expansion of the social safety net? I’ve heard the robust Mao era one was mostly eliminated during the 90s though Xi seems to be stepping up on expanding govt programs in general

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

we should stick to warhammer 40k where the books are so scared of sex stuff worshipping the god of loving manifests as fighting real good

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

I thought Genghis khan was viewed fairly positively in China since the line is that he’s a cultural hero of the Mongols and since Mongols are part of the multicultural Chinese nation, he’s also a Chinese hero. at least that’s the reasoning all the Chinese people I know who consider genghis to be Chinese is

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the yuan dynasty is not well regarded by non-Mongolians i believe

kublai khan seems pretty popular in China, in a Qin Shihuang “established order and institutions” way

I mean, all those Genghis and kublai statues they have around China were pretty recent

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

didn’t gorbie make a sad little socdem party after the collapse that got like 2% of the vote?

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

isn’t China way better for professional women than Korea and japan? I’ve met a few women who went to japan/Korea briefly then headed back bc they thought it was a dead end career wise bc of the sexism

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Ardennes posted:

From what I have read/seen discussed, I doubt young people in China as a whole are as pessimistic about their prospects as young people in US. The closet parallel would probably be in first tier cities where affordability is much more of an issue.

China is a mixed economy but at least there are some ways that pressure is released.

yeah I don’t think you see the kind of pessimism among young Chinese people that you see in the US. I think the big reason is bc if you’re a Chinese in your 20s, you will have seen pretty massive improvements to your standards of living within your lifetime, and no sign that the trend will stop anytime soon. Lot of Chinese people who come to the US are taken aback by how old and decrepit infrastructure and the like are since over in China there’s a constant feeling of development

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

fart simpson posted:

yes. much of china has a wonderful and refreshing sense of optimism, it’s the opposite of america in that way

it’s something that’s present among all age groups, too, since pretty much everyone has seen big material improvements in their lifetimes. that the US appears moribund is probably also another source of optimism

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

where did the thing about American millennials “idolizing” China come from? if anything the overall mood towards China even in leftist spaces has gotten way more hostile vs the Obama era, when China at least among mainstream liberal opinion was seen as something America could get along with

the only people I’ve seen become more positive towards china are some Chinese Americans, mostly bc Trump really ramped up the witch-hunts against Chinese American scientists and engineers and Biden hasn’t let up, which has disillusioned a lot of the standard democrats who assumed that Biden would be less racist since he was a democrat and would go back to the Obama era status quo.

that Covid has been pretty much over for a year until the new delta outbreak for their relatives in China might have helped too

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FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Lostconfused posted:

Since this stupid topic comes up everywhere in this forum, I'll just quote myself



According to surveys the opinion of China supposedly got better under Trump. Now do surveys reflect reality at all is a different question.

huh, that’s surprising, my bad then. pressure on Chinese Americans has been going up since trump between the rash of hate crimes and fbi harassment of professors so I figured that accompanied an overall increase in anti China sentiment. the Chinese American communities have been feeling a lot less secure than they were 10 years ago with pretty much everyone experiencing at least some level of harassment under Covid

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

What’s with CPP vs CPC? Anti China people seem to go out of their way to use the former even though it seems like the latter is the official translation? Is it just one of those petty “I’m gonna call it the DemoCRAT party” things but for libs

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

I heard pretty recently that the Vietnamese govt considers the existence of private insurance to be a stopgap measure in place until universal free care can be implemented and wonder if anyone knows if China has announced similar plans

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

the CPC should fully get behind anime as a tool of cultural soft power and make the anime nazis confused and frightened with anti racism psas featuring big titted waifus

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

stephenthinkpad posted:

Vietnam is actually running very "China like" quarantine procedures. I can see China use some of these procedure if infection goes to the next stage. A lot of factories have to set up indoor tents to house the factory workers. And the workers have to eat and sleep inside the factory, no going home allowed.

I did see a thread about how the factory workers at least only stay in the tents if they volunteer for the extended shifts and get paid overtime for it, which while not ideal is probably better than the US just forcing everyone back to work with no compensation or measures in place

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

we should have left the taliban an f35 fleet as booby traps

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

There was a tweet I saw earlier about the video game ban that was like “kids can’t play video games, follow their favorite idols or ship characters now, what are they supposed to do in their free time?” And someone replied “hang out with friends or go out to play?” And the op went “this is the most american tweet ever, you have no idea what life is like in communist China”

hosed up that hanging out and playing outside are banned in China

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

does Okinawa still have a communist/demsoc dominated govt bc having to live with american bases sucks so much that everyone there is anti imperialist?

I heard there used to even be a China friendly independence movement

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Huh, the CPUSA maintains party relations with the Chinese communist party.


When America balkanizes the retired united steelworker and dem party community organizer boomers of the cpusa will suddenly have J20s and QBZ’s and wreck everyone else

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

have there been any statements on the permanence of Covid welfare state expansions? I imagine stuff like anti homeless shelters or free medical testing and Covid treatment wouldn’t be a particularly hard thing to maintain now that they’re in place

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

crepeface posted:

are you asking about china? this came up in the last covid thread:

someone also mentioned that learning how to deal with SARS really helped them prepare for covid. not sure about welfare beyond medical care though.

yeah, I was asking about China. sounds like China is gonna get universal healthcare before America, huh

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

didn’t part of the reason we ate poo poo in Vietnam was bc McCarthyism purged all our Asia experts for communist sympathies for saying things like “the KMT seem like gently caress ups” or “Ho Chi Minh is kicking france’s rear end”

I wonder if the FBI/CIA cracking down on Chinese american scientists had an impact on them not having anyone who can read Chinese and know science

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

I wonder if what Xi did to tencent and the private tutoring industry would have triggered capital flight 15 years ago

It seems like a lot of american investors are pissed but with how much weaker america is now and how much of a smaller portion of investment is actually from out of country there’s not much they can do about it

I guess that’s the stated point of dengism, waiting until your economy is strong enough that the west can’t push you around to start renationalizing things

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

who is Noah smith and why do people care about his China opinions? does he even have any special experience/expertise re:China?

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

oh i think i actually know this, it was one guy in the Donetsk People's Republic

are those weird russian puppet republics left wing at all or do they just reuse soviet iconography for nostalgia purposes

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Antonymous posted:

Mao was actually a moderate who was more into class rehabilitation whereas the leadership in Shanghai wanted much more bloodshed before Mao&Zhou became defacto communist leadership iirc

Mao pre 1950s was one of history's slickest people imo. Zhou is a close second, he got Chiang's bodygaurds to capture Chiang and bring him to Zhou and Zhou just said 'stop being an idiot' and let him go. Mao got the emperor to happily give tourists guided tours of the palace.

Most Merciful.

were those the same Shanghai anarchists that declared a Shanghai commune/autonomous zone for like one month during the cultural revolution that mao then defused by going “hey that’s pretty cool, why don’t you guys set up a task force to formalize your demands” and caused to immediately turn back into an ML bureaucracy like Obama killing the NBA strike

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Judakel posted:

australia is really gonna push back on china, regionally

they’re gonna do it by getting more racist to Chinese Australians

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Atrocious Joe posted:

There was a BRICS summit a few days ago, and I wonder what Bolsonaro was thinking when he realized everyone else only had their own country's flag in frame
https://twitter.com/BrianMteleSUR/status/1436358405707403265?s=20

didn’t bolsonaro immediately start sucking up to Biden after the election? considering Obama got him elected I wouldn’t expect any loyalty to trump

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/17/china/human-cost-covid-quarantine-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

the Chinese don’t have a pile of dead 4 year olds and their parents.... but at what cost?

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FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

Judakel posted:

lol just imagine if china had the mrna tech

imagine if we never came up with vaccines and we were still at that initial 5% death toll 2 years in

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