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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



This owns.

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

economic anxiety

https://twitter.com/AmeerG95/status/1013880937690656769

these are the people the chattering pundit class insists democrats need to reach, by the way

Ah, the elusive undecided voter.


UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Lol gently caress them

E: the Rhode Island democrats

I was complaining in here a few weeks ago about the DSA in my state being kind of lovely. Yeah and now gotta deal with this poo poo too. Staying independent I guess. Sadly the republican candidates here run with / talk like they are running for seats in Oklahoma, not New England, so I can't really take them seriously either. If my job situation wasn't 'finally got the exact job I wanted' I'd probably be talking with the wife about running for office. She just got a job here too so neither of us are doing it yet, but honestly it might be in the cards at some point.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


BigDave posted:

Quentin Tarantino presents:
Sherman: March To The Sea

Starting Michael Fassbender as General Sherman, and Nick Offerman as Ulysses S. Grant.

Summer 2020

Thatd be rad

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


It was fun and had a fun cast. Ending it early made for a pretty good movie at least.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Fallom posted:

I like Firefly. If I cared about fans and creators being assholes I wouldn’t be able to enjoy basically anything.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


It's ok the whisky industry is booming.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/07/05/625623400/caught-in-tariff-war-u-s-distillers-fear-losing-out-on-global-whiskey-boom

quote:

"I just had a meeting this morning with our Canadian importers, who were here at the distillery, and we're all just scratching our heads, because who in their right mind a few years ago would have envisioned us in a trade war with Canada and the European Union, our closest allies and partners," Peay says.

[...]

Peay says what worries him most is that over the past 10 years the big whiskey distillers in the U.S. have been doubling and tripling capacity in response to the global whiskey boom. "The huge increases in production were really intended to fill the anticipated global demand in Europe, in China, in India and elsewhere," he says.

Edit: Whisky industry collapses, Mitch McConnel re-elected unopposed.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Stultus Maximus posted:

Like it or not, these are not our kids. Show them compassion, but it's not like he's doing this to the people of Idaho or Texas. These are people from another country.

Oh, okay cool then. gently caress kids.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMil...r%3D448%23pti31

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Lots of scifi has Chinese/American intermingling. It's not like it's done without good reason. Besides, language is fluid enough that it will evolve, look at how many bullshit words are added every year (when they do the word of the year poo poo every new years on every news show).

Yeah! We're using "socialism" a lot more now.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Normal

https://mobile.twitter.com/ddale8/s...r%3D455%23pti31

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


If this thread has taught me anything it's that enlisting is a mistake.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Handsome Ralph posted:

I used to have moments of feeling guilty that I didn't enlist or end up commissioning but steadily reading this thread/forum over the past 8 years completely ended that.

Also shout out to the fat major who told me I'd never travel or live overseas if I didn't commission. lol

Haha yep, literally flipped a coin and chose grad school over OCS in my last year of college (2000). I think it turned out OK, but every now and then I think about what might have been and this thread helps with the 'hahah gently caress no' part there.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I like to remind people that when the generation complaining about 'Millenials" were their age they helped spike the crime/murder and drug rates in the USA to record numbers all while polluting like crazy. Saints, the last generation were not.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


We should have had death panels

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Vasudus posted:

I have these discussions all the time with my boomer coworkers. They're completely incapable of understanding that wages have not gone up to support cost of living. I had an incredibly cheap for the area townhouse when I lived in CT and my rent was 60% of my income at its best, and 110% at its worst. My rent here started at 50% of my income and has since dropped down to 25% because I make a fuckload of money now, but now I'm chipping away at the 70k in debt I have.

They literally think that you can get a part time job over the summer and pay for school, and get any job to afford a house, get married, and have a family by the time you're 30.

One of my favorites is my best friend in Boston. He's just hitting his early 30s, married 4 years ago. He and his wife bought a very small house in a rapidly gentrifying part of Boston and could do so only with the help of their parents on the downpayment. He's a plumber and his wife is some kind of secretary. They have almost no savings and no disposable income and are trying to find ways to get out of the city as soon as they both can. Also my friend had an emergency kidney condition and despite insurance still owes $20-30k in expenses after a prolonged hospital stay.

Their parents give them poo poo constantly for not having kids / just had a huge blowup with them because they decided they won't be having kids (entirely due to finances). Meanwhile his dad is retiring from his lifetime job as a butcher, his mom is a homemaker and they're living off social security and the fact that they sold the house they bought for $100k in 1992 for ~800k last year.


edit:

On the upsides of the southern racist bullshit:

https://twitter.com/exavierpope/status/1015242202149281792

That Works fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 6, 2018

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


FAUXTON posted:

Didn't he straight up text someone about it though?

And sent a picture of the damaged vehicle.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Slavic Crime Yacht posted:

Is this for real? I'm pretty sure in NZ you hit and kill someone, you're facing manslaughter.

If you do it in New Hampshire then it means you have to buy car insurance.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


EBB posted:

Down with Big Formula, up with big boobs!

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Casimir Radon posted:

I can't make that out?

"You don't know what you're doing" over and over

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Steezo posted:

That statement always went over like a wet start with vets that I know.

Odds are they still voted for him.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


As much as I love the feel-good story about these kids its pissing me off that the nation's (worlds?) attention is on getting 12 kids safely back to their families and we have a couple thousand sitting in warehouses that we've removed from their own that are getting a bit less exposure these days.

Elon, you're a software guy, why not whip up something that helps put those pairs back together more easily?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Torrannor posted:

And there are tens of thousands of kids in Yemen suffering from cholera and starvation, yet nobody gives a poo poo about them.

Yep. Same for when Boko Haram kidnapped all those girls. Michelle Obama made some noise about it and then we did... :shrug:

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Love to ignore principles if it gets me re-elected.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Godholio posted:

Like a .doc .xls that matches parents with kids?

Well, we're talking about after the fact now. Woulda been good beforehand.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Threads got me even worse

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


My understanding is that Sheffield eating a nuke would be a slight improvement.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Remember it's always projection.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


facialimpediment posted:

Hey Paul. Paulie.

Paul.

Paul.

You're in jail.

THEY LITERALLY RECORD EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR CALLS YOU DUMB IDIOT HOW loving STUPID ARE YOU

https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/status/1017091415204159491?s=19

So like, how does one end up in a special treatment jail? Seems like in court you get sent to booking, and on to some facility, but who decides who goes where?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Fister Roboto posted:

Maybe Manafort's strategy is to commit so many crimes that it overwhelms the system and he never gets put on trial.

Like some sort of legal overflow glitch.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


The guy who's campaign chair worked directly for and was funded by the Russians who is now in jail, who's businesses got loans from Russia, the guy who decided not to actively enforce sanctions against Russia made by his own parties Congress and who openly praises the current leader of Russia and is going to meet with him this month, has threatened to pull out of NATO and already started a trade war on both of his borders and against his longest and most stable allies.

It's almost like this guy is making every single misstep that Russia wishes a more powerful nation like the USA would make.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...3772_story.html


quote:

SEOUL — North Korean officials did not turn up to a Thursday meeting with the U.S. military about repatriating the remains of the war dead, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the situation.

The two sides had been expected to discuss at the Korean Peninsula’s demilitarized zone the return of U.S. troop remains from the 1950-1953 war — an arrangement that the State Department had announced after Secretary Mike Pompeo’s visit to Pyongyang last Friday and Saturday.

State Department officials had said that the meeting would likely take place on July 12, though they added that the date could shift.

On Thursday, however, Department of Defense and United Nations Command officials were left waiting in the DMZ’s Joint Security Area. The expected North Korean officials never arrived, according to the official who requested anonymity as he was not permitted to talk publicly about the event.

“We were ready,” the official said. “It just didn’t happen. They didn’t show.”

womp womp

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


hobbesmaster posted:

Some laws of that type have been struck down previously on 1st amendment grounds I thought?


That article makes it sound like Crowley cannot do anything about a third party nominating him?

quote:

Bill Lipton, state director of the Working Families Party, said he immediately reached out to Mr. Crowley’s campaign to request that he vacate the line.

To Mr. Lipton’s chagrin, his campaign declined

I didn't read it that way based on the above quote. Sounds like Crowley could have backed out and declined to, now spurring a 3rd party challenge.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Ahhh, ok thanks yeah that sounds more like hands tied then.

Still doesn't explain him not doing the 3 concession calls though.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


BadOptics posted:

God, imagine what a blasted wasteland the US was before ICE was established in *looks at wikipedia* 2003. Amazing that we survived the 200+ years before those brave boys took up the tiki torch.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Casimir Radon posted:

No one talks about Peter Thiel because all of the bad poo poo he does is mostly behind the scenes. The vast number of people in the US don't know about his part in taking down Gawker, and probably don't remember that was ever a thing. He's free to sit back, fund really awful causes, and try to live forever. The American public at large doesn't know or care because they're a bunch of spectacle loving retards who are too busy watching what the stupid Afrikaaner is up to.

Thiel gave a funny cocaine fueled rant at the RNC in 2016. Not so much behind the scenes so much as he's not discussed on social media that gets back to SA or grabs headlines.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


However you want to slice it his companies have done some pretty impressive things that if nothing else have pushed the market towards proliferation of electric cars and actual working reusable rockets, the implications of the latter which have yet to be fully realized.

I'm no fanboy of Musk but his companies have definitely done some good poo poo that's likely to be a real positive. If you think without him random collections of engineers just make that happen anyway, I would ask 'then why have they not already' since most of his involved tech is not reliant some massive leap / stroke of genius that needed to be made. Most of it was just getting someone to actually finish doing what had been talked about being done for a good while.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Significant public investment in basic research and technology cold have gotten us even further without the compromises required for a commercial venture.

I agree completely, my own laboratory and my employees salaries are supported by government funded grants for basic research.

However, that ship's not turning around any time soon, so to me suggesting that we wait for things to play out that way isn't likely. So, it got done, I don't like the means either, and I don't particularly like Musk nor am advocating for him here beyond saying that I think the advances his companies have done are unlikely to have happened if you remove him from that scenario.

Most of us in the Fed-funded academic research feel like we're about the last generation of people who are gonna be able to work this way. We're competing for ever smaller resource pools while the schools themselves are happy to only make temp and adjunct hires to fill minimal teaching duties and administration by and large is viewing research more and more as a liability than an asset as the federal fund cashflow that they get to skim off of has slowed down.

Personally I think in 20 yrs 'public investment in basic research' is going to be just another funnel of tax dollars into whatever company sets up shop in the congressmans district who has control of that hose at the time.

psydude posted:

Tesla was already an established company before Musk got involved. At the same time, it's kind of hard to argue that his involvement has nothing to do with their success.

Yeah this is essentially my point.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Doc Hawkins posted:

Weird. So us Musk-haters are actually being less cynical than you.

I could be wrong, but I'm going to act as if we can fund basic research, and provide health care for all, and not die in nuclear fire, etc., etc.

Yes. Also I don't love the guy at all.

See below:


Vasudus posted:

The GOP has tried three or four times in the last two years to kill ARPA-E and other energy initiatives. Not just climate change or green energy poo poo either, we're talking materials science and other assorted infinitely useful tech.

The GOP doesn't feel that government should be involved in the research industry at all, as witnessed by them shutting down the HHS databases this week.

We are seriously about to enter a scientific dark age.

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Godholio posted:

They used to do it a LOT more.

This. I can only speak for the biomedical field, but the money is dwindling. Most of the time you hear about a huge increase etc it's either been an inflationary adjustment, or a specifically targeted budget increase towards a singular issue. What money is left is also being split more into public/private ventures (SBIR grants etc) more than in the past.

It's often heard that private industry should be taking over their share of research but when drug production is beholden to shareholders you get no long-term R&D into things like antibiotics that are not very profitable compared to many other drugs.

So, we get public funded research that private companies take over as public funds run lower and lower and then it gets taken out of an open scientific community and becomes a trade secret. Then poo poo like this happens:

http://antibiotics-theperfectstorm.blogspot.com/2016/08/pfizer-and-astrazeneca.html
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2018/07/novartis-drops-antibiotic-development-program

Those companies close the antibiotics divisions to make more money on boner pills or whatever and now the public sector is still x years behind the curve research wise because any advances made privately are now locked down.

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