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Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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I wish it were easier to find Elgin sticks where I live, because those fat ones suck to work with (especially cold). It's one of the very few things I miss about the midwest.

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Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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bike tory posted:

cleaners $7.50/hour
TAs $12/hour
maintenance staff $10/hour
Chancellor $3,600/hour
IT techs $50/hour
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my TAs are having to work for free

Fire the cleaners, TAs, maintenance staff, and IT techs, then add "Infection Mitigation", "Academic Mentoring", "Basic Engineering", and "Computer Operation" as mandatory courses for all majors, with associated course fees for materials.

Give the chancellor a raise for saving money in these difficult times.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Sekenr posted:

What I don't get about the elite of this world, is how don't they understand that people like Corbyn or Sanders are actually their only hope? Because even if they make their life more difficult they will not put them against the wall. Othwerwise when the wagon crashes down and new bolshevik revolution happens, there will be no discrimination, everybody with money dies, revenge, just like it happened in Russia.

They've never had to deal with consequences for anything whatsoever in their entire lives, so they don't believe anything bad can really happen to them.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Blockade posted:

My high school staged a boycott of the school lunches for being awful, people even brought in food for the less well off kids, it was a beautiful act of solidarity.

Of course the high school admins started threatening students and threatening to fail people if they didn't stop the boycott.

School lunches: the new protection racket.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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quote:

👉Erink Cronk and be happy.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Zenithe posted:

That is implying that it is normal to charge for rental application. For real?

Is there a place where it's not?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Zenithe posted:

Australia, the only place I have rented.

Sounds like heaven (except for the part where landlords still exist). Here in the good ol' US of A, on the other hand, we believe in a thing called "personal responsibility", which means that if you weren't responsible enough to personally be born into a rich family, you'd better get used to paying out the rear end for everything.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Ask them what they'll do if (when) the agent does none of that.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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AKA, "reasons why the US will never get UBI".

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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The Bloop posted:

Job fairs are 98% cattle calls for terrible high turnover jobs that nobody actually wants to do

Like, sure if I'm desperate I might be willing to sell home alarm systems or something to survive but only until I find something else

And they know it

I miss working for a less lovely company. The positions we went to job fairs for were pretty good entry level ones, at a place that was big on promoting from within, so there was decent advancement potential. A ton of people got their careers started there.

Then, back in May, the company that owned us decided that, even though we were profitable (and our profitability continuing to increase), we weren't profitable enough, so they shut the company down, fired almost everybody, and moved all the jobs overseas.

Meanwhile, they increased their dividends.

:capitalism:

Kreeblah
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Paradoxish posted:

legit do not understand the kind of brain damage that makes someone think this way, especially because it is absolutely, 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt certain that this person believes in the concept of "meritocracy"

Same. It's not like the value produced by their work is any less. Why should the company steal more of it just because of where they happen to live?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Zamujasa posted:

No, they're resources. Human resources. :suicide:

Much of corporate lingo as dropped the "human" part of that. Now they're just resources to be exploited like any other.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Antonymous posted:

what are points in the computer toucher world

Bullshit. They're pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Capital wants to know how to most efficiently exploit labor, so they latch onto any psuedo-scientific sounding crap that promises to give them numbers to look at. Agile methodology is that. The idea is that you have sprints (defined chunks of time like two weeks or whatever) that your team does stuff in, and the team has a certain amount it's possible to do in that time. Theoretically, that's measured in points, so you estimate how much stuff you'll be able to fit in the sprint by how many points your team has available, and how many each thing will be to do.

However, you get into a few problems here. First, nobody knows what a point is. Is it a measurement of time? If so, how much time per point? Or is it a measure of difficulty or effort? Who knows? But you'd better get the number right. Which brings me to the second problem: everybody sucks at estimating. Sometimes you get things right, based on whichever definition of a "point" you're using (which is hopefully in the same universe as the definitions used by other people where you are). But sometimes you're laughably off, like the three-days-turning-into-three-months thing (or the opposite). And then you have people making timelines off of what are effectively guesses pulled out of somebody's rear end that get set in stone as The Delivery Date Which Shall Be Met.

In case you can't tell, I'm not much of a fan. Maybe it works somewhere, but I've never seen it.

Kreeblah
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What the gently caress is it with food companies tilting their logos to the left? Pepsi did it (for Mountain Dew, too), Yum did it for Taco Bell and Pizza Hut, Burger King did it, etc. I'm guessing it's some sort of "brand engagement" bullshit, but, like, what's the deal?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Sure, let's disincentivize something that actually reduces our carbon emissions, and use it to make it easier for companies to pay poverty wages.

:waycool:

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Crazycryodude posted:

They don't want grandma's condiments either, the little shits

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/08/11/mayonnaise-industry-millennials/

Good. Mayo is loving gross.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Marx Was A Lib posted:

"NOOO YOU CAN'T PUT SWEET ON PIZZA!" I cry as I slather the raw dough with a sweet tomato sauce

So don't sweeten your sauce when you make it? It doesn't need it anyway. Just throw in some garlic and basil, and you're golden. Maybe oregano if you want.

Kitfox88 posted:

I just sprinkle red winebalsamic vinegar and EVOO on romaine lettuce for a salad

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Elman posted:

The full article is amazing.

quote:

For the typical landlord in trouble, which he said is someone who bought their property in the last five years and is leveraged to the hilt, there are no reserves. "Despite tenant protection laws, these landlords don't have the cash reserves, nor the equity in their building to get loans," he said. "With the moratoriums, they're taking hit after hit."

thoughts and prayers

All they need to do is dip into their 6+ months of expenses that they've obviously saved up, like any responsible person would.

Kreeblah
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Shame Boy posted:

I mean I've done this a few times just cuz I'm a big dope, that's not so bad...


Well sure I guess that could be seen as reasonable if you're particularly cautious, I'm not seeing what's so outrageous about-


Wait what the gently caress?

I think I've heard somebody their horn like, twice, ever, around Seattle. It's just not a thing that anybody does. I'm pretty sure you could disconnect people's horns and they wouldn't ever notice.

The one time I was in the northeast, I found driving extremely stressful because of how aggressive people are there. But they're at least competent. On the other hand, people around here are idiots. The DOT has, on at least one occasion, told people to stop parking and lining up in front of the express lane entrances on the highway waiting for them to open.

Basically, if you take the stereotypical NYC driver and do the exact opposite, you'd have a pretty good approximation of what drivers are like around here. Which includes not knowing how to parallel park any closer than three feet from the curb.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Sininu posted:

This is incredibly blessed and warms my heart. Hopefully Jiang will get some form of compensation for that nightmare other than a busted megacorp.

gross
I hope they get ground into dust by the lawsuits.

I wonder if ABC could sue the megacorp for libel since they took out ads basically saying that ABC was making poo poo up.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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NZAmoeba posted:

Heeeeyyyy you what now?

lol your loving country

Yep, leasing application fees can be hundreds of dollars in some places. And it creates zero obligation for the landlord to actually rent to you. It's just another way to fleece people for money who don't have any better options.

Kreeblah
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Failed Imagineer posted:

america is by far the most armed citizenry in the world

On a guns-per-capita basis, sure, but those guns are not at all evenly distributed. The vast majority of people in the US own exactly zero guns, and then you have the occasional nutjob or whatever who owns thousands because that's all they spend their money on outside of shelter and food, which pushes the average way up.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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thehoodie posted:

i literally had this exact conversation with my friend last night because he is dumb and spent way too much money on NFTs

So, wait, some rando generated some tokens, says they represent public domain art, and is selling them to people?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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That insane screed posted:

pay your mortgage

I really wonder who that rear end in a top hat thinks they'd hand this to who has a mortgage instead of renting.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Goldman Sachs is worried that curing people isn't good for long-term revenue streams from chronic illnesses.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Conspiracy realities.

Yuuuuup. I got called a conspiracy theorist in a healthcare thread a while back for pointing out that companies are actively disincentivized from researching actual cures for things in favor of stringing people along.

Kreeblah
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Orange Devil posted:

The reasonable sounding part is that if we accept that the purpose of a company is maximizing shareholder value (we shouldn't accept this in the first place, but bear with me here), then obviously making sure the CEO has skin in that game is a good way to tackle the principal-agent problem and align the interests of the manager with the shareholders through the one weird trick of making the manager a shareholder.

Except there are different types of shareholders. There are those whose interests are with a stable company generating stable profits so that they can achieve stable investment returns over the long term. Like say, your institutional investors such as pension funds. This is all BORING AS poo poo however and we're living in turbocapitalism times so to paraphrase documentary show Silicon Valley, it's not about making a little bit of money every day, it's about making a shitton of money all at once. This is like, every other type of shareholder in the market right now, from your hedge funds to your billionaires to your banks to your loving retail investors. Everybody wants to hit the loving jackpot today, cash out, and then dump all their earnings right back into the casino so they can hit another, even bigger jackpot. This is because the middle class is disappearing and this crunch is now starting to hit the low level rich as all of society is stratifying into everybody being either a multibillionaire plutocrat part of the tiny owning class, or worthless human waste, also known as the owned class. So you better make it real loving big real loving fast or you too, are going to be owned.

CEO's fall in the second type there by the way, as they too are scrambling to make it to the top right the gently caress now to avoid falling into the ever widening, ever hungry abyss below. So in conclusion, most everyone involved in running companies nowadays wants to make a fuckton of money right this instant and is willing to gamble burning the whole company to the ground over it, even if that company has been providing stable, low risk profits for loving decennia.


There's no real way to fix this without doing away with the whole dumb system, but a way to theoretically align the interests of the CEO with the former type of shareholders is to have the shareholders define dividends rather than share price as the goal, aka ban loving stock buybacks, set a cap on dividend payouts so the company doesn't just get looted that way, and give CEO's dividend paying stock which they aren't allowed to sell off for a very long time. At least then there payout would be dependent on the company continueing to loving exist and continueing to make money. Also it would keep the CEO focused on material reality because that's what generates actual profits, rather than totally focusing on perception management to drive stock prices up by thinking about the way investors will expect other investors to perceive your company and react to it and aaargh everything that actually determines share price is so goddamn dumb.

For anybody who hasn't seen Silicon Valley, this is absolutely worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

Russ Hanneman is basically the embodiment of people who tune their poo poo to scam as much money out of Silicon Valley investors as possible.

Also, here's a thing:

https://twitter.com/thrasherxy/status/1387849329390542849

The screen's only purpose is to play ads.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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It gets better. If there's a kernel panic, it looks like it displays an ad for the faucet itself, complete with a phone number to call.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Mirthless posted:

$12/hr before deductions, definitely not rich even in 1980s dollars

Homer's kinda got a lovely job

That's like $81k/year in 2021 dollars. He's not HENRY-level (income-wise, anyway; owning a house kinda puts him there on its own), but he's not exactly poor.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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And they're still charging $73/vial. Doesn't that poo poo cost like $5 to make?

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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Professor Shark posted:

I should find that derail. My partner wants me to buy an SUV and I have been putting it off because I hate car dealerships so much. The entire car buying process is the stupidest thing and I have no idea why it exists the way it does.

To anyone who participated in that, can you post so that I can search and find it?

Dunno about the derail, but if I were going to buy a car from a dealer, I'd do something like this (I loving hate dealers, though, and I can't really see myself willingly setting foot inside of one). I'm assuming this is a new vehicle, because if not, a dealer's like your worst option.

If possible, do this towards the end of a fiscal quarter (late March, late June, late September, or late December) in order to find somebody who's are desperate to get their numbers up. Basically, figure out what you want, exactly, before you ever go to a dealer, and then (unless you're paying cash) find out what the best financing rate is and get preapproved. The exception to this is if there's a manufacturer financing incentive you want to use like 0% interest, and you're absolutely sure you'll qualify for it. Even then, though, sometimes some of the cash back or other incentives can be better in the long run, depending on what interest rate you can get elsewhere.

From there, contact every dealer even vaguely within how far you're willing to travel. Do this via e-mail, because you don't want to waste time actually talking to each of them. When you contact them, tell them exactly what you're looking for, and that you're getting quotes from a bunch of other dealers as well, and that you're looking for the best price rather than haggling. If you're financing, let them know that, but don't tell them you already have financing preapproved (and don't let them run your credit); just say that you can get to details for it later if it becomes necessary.

This is important for a few reasons. First, you'll flush out the fuckers who want to string you along until you get emotionally invested in the process with them, at which point, they know they can jack the price way up because you're less likely to walk. Second, you'll probably find the dealer in the area that's trying really hard to be able to say that they're the dealership that sells the most of whatever brand you're looking for (and, IIRC, might get a kickback from the manufacturer, but I don't recall offhand), even if they have to kill their margin on it. Third, if you're financing and let them know that, they'll price the vehicle lower because they'll be assuming they'll gently caress you on the loan instead. So, once you get a formal proposal from them on the vehicle price and they want to move over to running your credit to talk loan terms, that's when you pull out your preapproval.

If you really want to, you can use the price you got from the dealer in point #2 to try to haggle down somebody else, but I can't really see it being worth it unless you happen to find somebody who's really, truly desperate to unload another car, or you need to walk. Related: be ready to walk at the drop of a hat. They need your business more than you need the car, probably (doubly so if it's at the end of a fiscal quarter).

Basically, the whole process is adversarial bullshit based around who rips off who. AKA, capitalism in a nutshell.

Kreeblah
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:

this is probably the most important point of all this. up until you give them money/sign paperwork, you can just leave and that’s their problem. they being slow and taking their sweet time drawing up the paperwork? walk out. does the salesman need the managers approval to give you the car with the pin stripe for the same price as without? okay goodbye.

Yup. It's also important to keep in mind that no matter how friendly any of the sales staff is, they're not your friend, and they absolutely do not have your best interests in mind. Their job is to get you to sign on the dotted line. Just like everything before then is their problem, everything after that is yours unless they really gently caress up delivery. So make absolutely loving sure that you're getting a deal you can live with.

I didn't know about Costco, though. That's really good info. I hired somebody local to do the locating/negotiating last time I bought a car, but I think she retired. I might have to give them a shot next time.

Kreeblah
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I think I've only met one doctor I can for-sure say was a good person. He was my old doctor who retired about a year ago, and he was basically a loving unicorn. He was an incredibly competent general practitioner, spent a shitload of time with his patients to make sure he understood what they had going on, didn't dismiss women's health concerns (dunno about POC, but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't dismiss theirs, either), was very much in favor of socialized medicine, explicitly wasn't in it for the money (among other things, he kept his rates low, left a much higher-paying position as a private doctor for rich people because he wasn't helping people who needed it, and he gave people free appointments and free medical supplies when they had financial trouble/lost their insurance), etc. I really can't say the same about my new doctor or any other I've ever seen.

Muscle Wizard posted:

i think doctors are good personally.

Cool story, bro.

Kreeblah
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Shame Boy posted:

Since y'all brought dildo capitalism up, I stumbled on a very weird corner of twitter a while ago that I think was basically just the fuckin' nike shoe collecting weirdos but for novelty dildos. Like it was full of multiple bad-dragon-like companies talking about how they're doing limited-edition "drops", and people talking about how they're "really excited to get the latest drop" but they were worried because they "haven't even sold the last ones they bought yet" which makes me think it's some kinda lululemon pyramid scheme but for dildos maybe?

Like they didn't seem to actually want to... use the dildos... just have them, collect them, sell them to people etc. Which is very confusing to me personally as a Dildo Connoisseur.

They're probably talking about this poo poo, which is . . . kind of a meta-issue with the Nike situation, and has been expanding past the realm of sneakers and into anything that has a limited release or a limited supply.

Basically, people pay money for bots to spam the gently caress out of vendors' sites the moment something goes on sale in order to buy as many as possible so that they can resell them to the people who actually want them at a 1000% markup or whatever. Most retailers will take returns, so they're generally protected against softening demand, but I'd be pretty surprised if there were any returns on dildos, so :lol: at the dumbasses doing that for those.

Kreeblah
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Shwqa posted:

Nah that isn't true. The American way is to offer bonus if a certain quota is met. Just make sure that quota is just out of reach. If the qouta is ever met then raise it some more. Also bitch super hard whenever it isn't met. Bonus points if you make it feels like a moral failure on your employees part.

The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits.

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Failed Imagineer posted:

It's obviously a first world problem, but a lot of people factor bonus expectations into their job decisions - even for fairly modestly-paying jobs - so it does kinda suck that they can be arbitrarily rescinded like that

That's why you always negotiate on base pay, not any "bonus" crap they try to throw at you to take a lower rate. They'll yank that poo poo away ASAP, whereas it's a lot more taboo (though certainly not unheard of) to cut somebody's pay.

Kreeblah
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I was with one job where we got a piddly cash bonus for Christmas, then the next year we got an even piddlier cash bonus, then the next year we got a Target gift card, then the next year we got nothing.

And we were all grateful for even the tiniest crumbs from the table of our corporate masters.

What pisses me off even more is that a lot of companies have policies where you don't qualify for certain types of bonuses if your pay is below a certain level.

The place I work for does that with stock and options grants. If your annual pay is under . . . I want to say $75k/year, you get none, whereas the folks who do get 'em get a minimum of around $25k worth a year.

Kreeblah
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petit choux posted:

this here is a good one for the thread:

ah ah ah ah semper fry

As funny as that would be, it's unfortunately fake.

https://twitter.com/dylanwelch/status/1427097998295588866

Kreeblah
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The Nastier Nate posted:

edit: unless you are super loving ballsy and are just trying to bluff your way into a raise in which case good luck

I've done this. Negotiated a $10k out-of-cycle raise for myself that way.

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Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

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The person who wrote a letter for Tuesday's Ask a Manager is capitalism.txt incarnate.

A sociopath posted:

I’m not comfortable with one of my new staff members and how overconfident she is. Her work is great and she needed very little training but she’s got very big britches.

“Jane” has only been with us for two months. Just today she asked for a meeting with me and our payroll manager. It turns out payroll made an error entering her direct deposit information that resulted in Jane not getting paid, not once but two times.

Our company requires potential candidates to complete sample assignments during the interview process and we pay them an hourly contractor rate. It turns out she didn’t get paid for her assignment period, or for the next full pay cycle. The payroll employee apologized directly to Jane in an email, because it was their error in entering her information and not following up/fixing it that resulted in Jane not getting paid. Jane was able to show emails back and forth where she checked in with the payroll employee and asked if it was fixed, which they confirmed it was. Today was payday and Jane didn’t get paid. She checked with the employee again and they acknowledged that they “thought” it was fixed. It’s upsetting for Jane, I understand, but I think she was out of line about the whole thing. People make mistakes.

Neither payroll nor I knew anything about it until today. We both apologized and assured her the issue would be handled. After that, she looked at me and the payroll manager and said, “I appreciate your apology, but I need you both to understand that this can’t happen again. This has put me under financial strain and I can’t continue to work for COMPANY if this isn’t corrected today.”

The payroll manager was heavily in agreement, but I was speechless that she’d speak to management like that.

Payroll handled the whole thing and cut her a check with the okay from HR. Jane had referenced that not being paid put her in financial hardship and unable to pay bills, so HR allowed the use of the employee hardship fund and gave her $500 in gift cards so she can get groceries and gas and catch up on bills. I’m just kind of floored that she’s getting gift cards after speaking to her superiors like that. I’m also uncomfortable because why is our company responsible for her fiscal irresponsibility? Her personal finances or debts are not the company’s responsibility. I just don’t think it’s the company’s responsibility to give her more than what she’s earned (the extra $500 from the employee emergency relief fund) to fix things for her if she overspent or didn’t prioritize her bills or save smartly. We also don’t know if she is actually experiencing a financial hardship or just claiming she was.

HR allowed her paid time to go to the bank today and deposit her check. I told our HR person that while it’s not okay Jane didn’t get paid, the way she approached it was uncalled for. HR told me, “She’s right, it can’t happen again and it shouldn’t have happened at all.”

I’m getting tired of the respect gap I’m seeing with younger staff. I think Jane would be better suited in a different department. I’m not comfortable having her on my team since it’s obvious she doesn’t understand she’s entry-level and not in charge. Should I wait a while before suggesting she transfer to a different department?

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