Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

ROFL Octopus posted:

It’s definitely going to get review-bombed by the usual suspects

…Sword and Shield are going to include They/Them pronouns?

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jun 14, 2019

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Live Free posted:

So they had all the old Pokémon in USUM including unused walk cycles, which were supposedly future-proofed
They put LGPE out last year as a test bed for SwSh, so they should already have 150+ models worked out
I assume they have access to the Pokemon Go assets if they want them
They have all the money in the drat world

So what gives? I wish they would follow up about this because it's really dumb

They have money, and they have assets. What they do not have is time. They would need to implement and QA it, but they are also beholden to a definite release date, for better or worse.

See the new Animal Crossing. That was delayed, and Nintendo’s stock took a huge hit.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Live Free posted:

But then why not say something to reduce the backlash a little bit? Seems dumb

Nerds are never happy.

Seriously though, they could and should have done more to assure people on this.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Johnny Joestar posted:

it doesn't actually matter what is or isn't the case because either way it means we get the fun of watching a bunch of utterly joyless people go out of their way to endlessly pick apart every single aspect of everything we see until release later this year in regards to anything related to the game, and they're going to make sure we know what they think about it no matter what our stance on it all is

buckle up

In before nerds start accusing us of complaining too much about their complaining.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I heard the news and went to this thread. I don’t know what I was expecting :ohno:

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Dehry posted:

It's melting down my poor phone. Guess I can't put off upgrading much longer.

Yeah, i have an iPhone 7 which while not the newest is still fairly recent, and I am bumping the quality down to low myself

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

King Cohort posted:

They exist, but they are undeniably derivative, low-effort, and cheap in every case except Raid Battles, reinforcing the point of Game Freak's cutting corners to maximize profit. Not everyone decrying the game thinks Game Freak is a laughing JRPG supervillain cutting Pokemon to torture them personally. It's just profit motive. They aren't extraordinary or special for doing this. Welcome to capitalism.

You are free to not like what they are doing here, but couching "Stupid Lazy Developers" with surface level socialist talking points does not make you sound smart.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Honestly, I am waiting until the actual game is out to see what the reaction is and ignoring the leaks for the most part because Dexit has basically poisoned the well for a very long time, and there are a bunch of people who had made up their minds about the game. It's hard to know with the leaks if they are being presented in good faith or not when you have people showing videos about knee high wall shadows as proof that GameFreak are Lazy/Incompetent/Greedy/Some combination thereof.

If it is all true, then bullet dodged. If not, well, the game is still there.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

TheKingofSprings posted:

Being 40$ portable games helped a lot, honestly!

When the technology sucks it’s a lot easier to forgive warts as being from limited hardware. Gen 1 and 2 are legitimately impressive and while Game Freak has always been a few steps behind it’s never been quite this dreary

Wasn't the original release of Gen 1 horrifically buggy? We got the much improved version two years out from that and it still had a bunch of bugs. And they got Iwata on Gen 2 to help out.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Avalerion posted:

I assume they could also throw more money/people at it but I'm not a game dev dunno if it works that way.

There is a transitional time where new hires need to be oriented into the project and for them to get used to the code base, the standard for the team, etc. That in itself is also a time investment.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Johnny Joestar posted:

they're going to partner up with the monster hunter devs and announce Pokemon: Charge Blade in a bit, combining both sword and shield and also implementing actual carving of pokemon into usable pieces

Also heard that they will also revamp the combat system into something that is almost too complicated.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Wait is it true that they never announced the dex cut in Japan?

Why wouldn't they announce that of all things to their customers there

Where are you hearing that?

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Yeah, the behavior in that article is distressing but I still can't believe they didn't announce the cuts over there. That's just bonkers.

I am sorry but I am failing to see the correlation. For all I know it could be just Japanese fans that found out at the same time the west did and are still pissed about the cuts. You know, just like American fans.

EDIT: Okay, I think I twigged to what was being said; It was the actual cuts (What pokemon made it in and which are not) not being announced, not the fact that there will be cuts. Do I have the right of it? If so then I still do not see what the big deal is (Technically we didn't know what the actual cuts were either) but whatever.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Nov 13, 2019

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

sexpig by night posted:

they aren't, japanese people have the internet too, they learned it when we did

Yeah, and Pokémon is now a worldwide release. The days when we would know everything because the JP version has been out for months are over. I am not sure what Nintendo and GF did wrong here other than putting out an unfortunate tweet.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

extra row of teeth posted:

Apparently they didn’t! The news didn’t spread in Japan until early last week which is why twitter is exploding and the devs are getting death threats.

I saw some curated posts and while a lot of the fan rage is hilariously similar to the USA, apparently a lot of people are furious at James Turner too? I don’t know if he’s the scapegoat while the west prefers Masuda or if they just hate the new designs while we don’t care about the style shift because it is more western but would bother a western audience less? I don’t know, it’s interesting to see regardless.

The first article that was Thisisacoolguy linked said that there was a similar Dexit hashtag, 5 months ago.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

extra row of teeth posted:

I think their issue is them finding out via the internet and not from the devs because the devs didn’t have the balls.

If not through the internet then where or how the gently caress were they supposed to do it?!

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

extra row of teeth posted:

This is what I was trying to communicate.

Fair enough.

extra row of teeth posted:

Why is Japan freaking out now, then? Is it the cut confirmation?

That is what I think. The article said that someone said that they wanted to play SwSh with their Bayleef, Matsuda replied to that tweet in the positive, but then it turned out that Bayleef was cut so now everyone is accusing him of making a mean joke.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Nov 13, 2019

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Live Free posted:

even without all the music and sound effects there's still a whole new region with 400 good boys to befriend, and besides you can always just control your volume on the tv or an external speaker. furthermore saying "games are for everyone" is outright classist because they are demonstrably not for everyone--they are for everyone priveleged enough to have 300 dollars of disposable income for the console, a reliable source of electricity, a television or monitor if they're playing docked, plus the cost of whatever games. and we can assume that most people playing switch also have reliable housing and were raised in an environment where the system didn't fail them and they actually learned to loving read. I won't even get into the ableism/disrespect for the mentally ill on display in your post but suffice to say you're really making a mountain out of a molehill.

WELL YOU ARE THE REAL ABELIST HERE

good christ you are an idiot.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Live Free posted:

i can't force you to care about "the poors" but maybe cool it with the slurs?

Even worse: A boring idiot.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Live Free posted:

Again huh? Are you visiting from 8chan or /pol/ or something?

Get a better gimmick.

Anyway, dumb question about the Pokémon anime (wow, it is weird and unsettling how my browser inserts the é): What happened to Gary? I remember him being knocked out of the first tournament, then I think we was in the next section for a bit, but by that time I fell off the series.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Impressions (not a full review) from USGamer:

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/pokemon-sword-and-shield-review-impressions

Basically, succeeds in being a Pokemon game but not the next gen leap that it should have been

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

extra row of teeth posted:

I am so glad I don’t know what half of this even means

Not an empty quote

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I am still on the edge of getting this, but from what we know are there any starters that are not viable in the long run? I am kind of leaning toward Grooky for how the final evo looks.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Araxxor posted:

Reviews for big games tend to be soft unless it's really obviously bad. The audience reception can vastly differ from the reviews, so they aren't necessarily indicative of anything.

I am warmer on reviews on most, but ultimately ymmv. I mean, I bounced hard off of Fire Emblem Three Houses, but I will gladly say that I am in the minority.

At the very least the positive reviews indicate that the game is not the unmitigated disaster that certain sectors of the internet are saying it is.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

ROFL Octopus posted:

It’s actually enormously popular and well-loved

Yeah, everything I hear on my Twitter feed and what I see in this very forum is warm on the game.

And my dislike is only because I can’t quite get into it, rather than a outright hatred of anything it did. Maybe I will revisit it at some point.

Anyway, I apologize for the off topic.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I think that this may also be a part of it as well

https://twitter.com/AutomaticZen/status/1194670795286614017?s=20

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Countblanc posted:

reviews in a vacuum aren't particularly meaningful to say "look, it's actually good", or "look, it's actually bad", and that's also not their purpose if you're taking them in good faith. reviews are useful if you're familiar with the tastes and past works of a reviewer. for example, i listen to Nadia's podcast and i agree with her a lot when it comes to stories and aesthetics in games, but basically never match up to her with mechanical stuff (especially when it comes to competition). i know how she typically plays RPGs and what she values in them so her review is useful to me. similarly if her editor in chief and cohost did the review it'd also be very useful because I know kat's tastes and also am familiar with her frustrations with the series and gamefreak as a company. it'd almost certainly be a very different article but it'd probably tell me the same sort of thing wrt whether i would enjoy the game.

it feels dumb that i need to explain this in the year of our lord 20XX but the way people are talking about the posted reviews in here is wild

This is very true, but I think that failing to have the opinion of someone you know and trust, consensus is a good first step towards determining if something is for you.

Now, when consensus misinterpreted as a rating in of itself (rotten tomatoes, Metacritic, etc), then we start to run into problems.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Ariong posted:

I agree that the outcry surrounding this game is overblown. However, I am also quite irritated by the overdramatic backlash that I see to that outcry, particularly in this thread. All of the "Well it's STUPID to care about graphics and stuff as long as I get to make pokemon friends!" is ridiculous. It's okay to like something and have standards for it. I like pokemon. I'll probably like this one. I'm frustrated by how little improvement or progress is made between installments. Comparing it to Breath of the Wild is absurd, but I did expect it to look better than it does. The designs of the regular pokemon are all quite nice, and I really like the Galar forms, but I find the legendaries to be a bit offputting.

“Over dramatic backlash” to death threats and videos about barely noticeable LOD scaling on shadows of knee high walls that is undisputed proof of why Gamefreak is evil and incompetent.

Look, I get what you are saying, I wish the games were better and are the great leap Forward that this series need. But gently caress you it has been months of non stop complaining about Dexit let us have this

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Nov 14, 2019

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Ariong posted:

Nobody with two brain cells to rub together would genuinely read my post as referring to the people sending death threats over pokemon. Don't be ridiculous. Obviously the people sending death threats and making overblown accusations of malice are ridiculous and should be made fun of. However, you should not respond to their existence by going completely in the other direction and refusing to acknowledge that the game has faults that could possibly hinder the player's enjoyment.


First of all, if it's causing you this much turmoil I highly suggest disengaging from the community until you recharge. I unbookmarked this thread a while ago and only pop in occasionally, and "occasionally" is exactly how often I've been exposed to complaining about Dexit. It's nice. I'd doubly suggest it if mild criticism is enough to make you feel like you have had something taken away from you.

I am perfectly fine with what you said, I just hate the idea that now it is okay to tut tut people for daring to be hyped about the game because somebody else said some stupid poo poo when much worse was said and done elsewhere.

However, you are right, I did overreact and I apologize.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Spanish Manlove posted:

When does the NA eshop version unlock?

NA eShop usually unlocks around 12 am EST/9 pm PST

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Spanish Manlove posted:

Neat, I'm gonna wake up early tomorrow and enjoy some pokemon

As an aside it may be different for non major releases but every major release I have seen unlocks around that time.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
For the Aussie goons playing this now, how is the route/cave situation? Eurogamers remarks about how dungeons are basically done away with are the only things that give me pause at this point

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I feel embarrassed currently given my earlier whining but I am still kind of on the fence. I like what I see (I want a Galarian Meowth….is it a Meowth? gently caress it, I want my grubby looking son), but the comments by GameExplain and Eurogamer about the world feeling small are kind of getting to me, since I mainly play these for the adventure rather than the competitive aspects. That said, I see most getting 30 hours out of the story which is by no means short. Going to keep on waiting and seeing.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 15, 2019

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
So how are the sizes of the routes shaking out, after what we have been hearing?

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I want to get Grooky for the final evo, but I like Scorbunny's too (Sobble...I can appreciate what they are going for but it does not really do anything for me).

Eff it, I will likely have the game once I get home.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I am enjoying it so far and I love the professional sports motif they are going for. That said, I can't tell if the catch rate is really bad this time (Fuckin' Mudbray took me over 10 balls :argh: ) or if it is bad luck and no worse than in other generations. I feel like it is worse in the wild area. On the other hand this is with regular pokeballs and I am thinking it will even out once I unlock Great Balls.

EDIT: Also, Hop is all right, just kind of annoying and the living personification of this dril tweet

https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561?lang=en

EDIT2: Also I love being able to switch out mons from the box on the road

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 17, 2019

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Epic High Five posted:

I haven't had much in the way of problems catching mons, the only one that seemed to be a huge pain for me (more than 2-3 balls) was very early on when it started raining in the wild area and a level 15 Diggersby spawned, that one took awhile considering my team was at like level 9 at that point. I do think the level difference of the one that's out versus the target 'mon makes a big difference here

I think that is it; it is usually when my mean team level skews lower than the level on the mon I am trying to catch is when I have trouble.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Do we know if there is any save data transfer from the MD demo to the full game? I am guessing no.

Also I probably should get back I into Sword sooner or later. Didn’t get far but liked what I played.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

RatHat posted:

They said you can transfer your save to the full game, yes.

Wait really?

I thought that there were some starter Pokémon that weren’t available yet.

Eh, whatever, more games should let you transfer over demo data regardless

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

RatHat posted:

...Do you mean to Sword/Shield? No you can't do that. I meant you can transfer your save data from the MD demo to the full MD game.

I was talking about MD and I was talking about the types of Pokémon you can start as and/or have as a partner

Sorry, that was crossing a few nodes

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply