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Troy Queef posted:Oneohtrix Point Never (the guy who did the music for Uncut Gems)'s percussionist How can a one man computer music project have a percussionist?
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Using a woke/feminist framing it should ironically be pretty obvious why criticism has a tendency to stick to Amber more than the guys. In addition to that, I think that even though the Chapos as a whole are critical of idpol, and their detractors have a tendency to simplisticly equate them with chuds because of this they're actually pretty woke, and Amber being more exposed to criticism is partly a result of this; The heavy lifting of criticizing idpol is often left to her because the Chapos have at the very least internalized that it's a bad look for the dudes of the group to come out in front when doing so. On the flip side, when it's time to express messages of solidarity it's usually the dudes who do it, probably because they feel the need to do so more, and maybe because it's more novel and maybe even effective coming from them. I don't think this is a cynical thing though, it's just how the discourse works out in woke spaces, even one ostensibly critical of idpol. The rest of the Chapos are shutting up and listening when the woman speaks, and being supportive voices otherwise. One could uncharitably read that as Amber being less woke, but I think that's unlikely, and it doesn't seem to hold up when reading her writings. As far as the TERF criticism I guess it's something that could be levied against most leftists favoring a class based analysis these days, depending on the viewpoint of the person making the accusation. Even 10 years ago TERF described a pretty specific ideology, one with a strong identitarian core that Amber explicitly rejects, but if the current day use applies to all perceived enemies, and not putting idpol as your primary, or in the case of centrists, only political priority makes you an enemy, then it makes some sense. I still think the majority of people making that accusation are just trying to hurt the publicly leftist woman by any available means though.
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Its Chocolate posted:if it makes you feel any better it's incredibly rare for people to significantly change their minds politically just by hearing from one person. the amount of charisma required for that is like demagogue/cult leader level. we have too much mental investment in our existing narratives to just abandon them willy-nilly Eh, it depends; if the person is genuinely open-minded, and by that I mean that the person probably have not thought about politics all that much, is confused by it, or is seeking answers but has not made up their mind all it really takes could be to see one person they respect express their political views. There are a lot of people out there primed for a socialist message who's main obstacle to embracing socialism is never actually having been exposed to a narrative other than liberal head-in-the-sand point scoring and far-right YouTube demagoguery.
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:I swear to god some people would listen a podcast of any three random New York art hobbiests Only if they live in Brooklyn.
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The idpol over everything scolds are a tiny online clique. They are annoying, but they're not the problem. The problem is the idea that making discourse more progressive is an end in and of itself, and that it reflects any meaningful change. That's what results in Bernie expending all his political capital on "moving the conversation left". The DNC, and libs in general are perfectly willing and capable of adopting woke or left talking points without actually delivering on any of it, and Capital always corrupts or outpaces this type of nice guy progress. There are lots of people out there who admire Bernie for sticking to his principles and never going low, but the reality is that he's the only one playing by the rules, and he's getting demonized either way. Bernie likely ending his political career head held high is doing his cause a massive disservice; he should have tried appealing to the atavistic heart of America like Trump did, after all, Trump won.
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I am not convinced honorable defeat will radicalize as many as going out in flames would either.
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Crowsbeak posted:Good thing this is a dishonorable defeat. Due to dnc rigging. I dunno. Bernie is legitimizing the process with his last minute "get biden to commit to left talking points" tactic instead of burning it all down. If he loses, and then campaigns for Biden that's going to take a lot of the wind out of the sails of any "rigged" narrative.
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forkboy84 posted:But it's fine, as a lib-soc I know that the fact the October Revolution succeeded means there will always be people who dream that one day I get purged along with or just after the fash & capitalists. Taking leftist infighting/theory/history personally is about as stupid as being genuinely upset about guillotine jokes. No leftist is coming for your neck dude, we're as far removed from power as can be.
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Trabisnikof posted:why did we get out of the war in vietnam it wasnt for the anit-war movement? Because you lost?
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah like that ever stops us from throwing lives and money at a war. That tendency is in part a reaction to the national trauma losing the Vietnam War was.
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Red Scare and Cum Town both seems like shows trying to let their hosts be cool/funny/chill online. Why one is nefarious socialite grifting and the other is harmless fun confuses me. Cum Town arguably has the larger amount of hangers-on, and the performativly juvenile tone of the show seems no less pandering.
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Crane Fist posted:"performatively" I mean, to the degree that I don't believe they're like that at all times in their day to day. Presumably they're able to speak with their fathers without propositioning them for sex.
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Ace of Baes posted:i love reading peoples opinions of the red scare podcast, I can't get enough of it I've not listened to a single minute of it, but my zizek style take is that it's pretty stupid, but probably not a grand injustice.
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I did enjoy the "globalism" dog-whistle because it was literal evidence that a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Swedens approach is basically the approach of the US. They suck.
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Patreon-funded domestic terrorism is the post-chapo future.
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That trillbillies episode was legit; some good takes, a very relatable energy, and all of it punctuated with the very jokerified laugh of one of the hosts. I will check out the next episode as well.
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fr0id posted:the call of Cthulhu system is poo poo garbage from the 1980s and Matt, as always, quickly figured out that making an interesting and “real” character actually leads to boring gameplay. He figured out what sucks about old school RPGs very quickly (you get limited points for your character and it’s always better to optimize them for combat than anything else because all interesting adventures have combat). they are playing 30-40 year old game design rules when they could be playing poo poo actually designed to make fun stories and gameplay. YES I am mad about RPGs and NO I won’t be quiet. have them play trail of Cthulhu or something. Excuse me? Min-Maxing CoC is all about that Spot Hidden and Library Use.
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It's probably the second most used skill in the game, but arguably the most important. Spot hidden probably gets more use but so many adventure outcomes relies almost entirely on finding the vital clue with library use. Going to the library used to be a good way for the GM to drop hints and exposition before the "idea check" became popular as well. In general CoC is not a well designed mystery game, as progress requires you to succeed with these clue-finding rolls. However, in all but the more pulpy scenarios you can avoid fights if you get the right clues.
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It's not racist, it's simply incorrect. 
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Varinn posted:every lovely fantasy book reads like this Gwen, stop posting here.
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Disgorgeous is alright. They're two white dudes from the same New York set as the Chapo crowd, with similar sensibilities, Twitter-esque irony-based humor, aborted improv careers etc. The podcast is them getting smashed on mid to high tier natural/organic/hipster wine, mostly just talking poo poo, once in a while giving a shout out to Bernie or ironically calling for protestant/catholic conflict, or racism against Italians/The Irish. There's a lot of hot couch vibes. There's probably stuff to make fun of, yet they're a pretty good representation of your average Chapo listener, lifting most of their jokes. The wine-rep thing is an interesting wrinkle, but no worse then the computer touchers in this very thread, no doubt working on ad tracking algos or some other wretched poo poo, so stones and glass houses etc.
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They're pretty open about their jobs being pretty easy, mostly involved drinking and being personable. It's an interesting case for what it takes to qualify as a leftist podcast. Like, the dudes are privileged Brooklynites, yet support Bernie and ostensibly support socialism. Is that enough? Is their self-identification enough? In one of their episodes they spoke with a French winemaker who also identifies as socialist, knows Melechon, and made a cuvee for his victory (which never panned out). Does that count as leftist content? How much political content is required to call yourself leftist? Does positions of relative privilege disqualify one from that label? Surely not, if the Chapos can escape that criticism. Likewise, they've platformed some lovely people, and tried making up for it by apologizing and platforming good people after. They at least want to be woke, but don't go crazy with it. They have not campaigned to the same degree as the Chapos, but that would be impossible as I am pretty sure they have like 25 listeners. It's literally two Chapo fans getting drunk and recording a podcast that is theoretically about wine, but mostly them sitting on a couch talking about whatever pops into their heads. They took the podcasting is not activism thing to heart. Another related podcast is Front of House, run by two ladies who work in the restaurant industry. It's got a similar vibe, is likewise very New York-centric, ostensibly leftist, although weirdly they're very down on anything moving away from tip-based pay. One is a beginning/struggling comedian on the side, and they talk about and make jokes about whatever comes to mind, what is going on at their work, with the occasional bit of Bernie talking points sprinkled on top. It's becoming a genre!
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It never ceases to amuse me that you can barely describe a podcast, never mind criticize it, without people getting upset. It's like a film thread, but every film is Star Wars. People, me included, get crazy personal about them. Anyway, yeah Disgorgeous can be okay if you have some interest in wine, and have a high tolerance for aimless yapping. I would recommend it if you, like me, are incapable of being alone with your own thoughts, and do not care when someone calls a type of wine you like something vaguely insulting.
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Doctor Jeep posted:lol nobody is upset, people are making fun of you and your opinions My opinions are the best, you're just jealous. Gas is messy. You'll spill something, it gets burned on there and there are all of these nooks and crannies making cleanup a bitch. In most cases a good induction will get you equal or better performance, with much easier cleanup at lower running costs. I would prefer gas for wokking, but even then only if we're talking a proper wok range, induction is still preferably to wokking on a conventional stove top burner. Just make sure your induction is well ventilated and it's pretty much the ideal solution available.
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fermun posted:electric stoves are two-pole breakers so are 240V already and sized for a 40A continuous load. Your mom is sized for a continuous load.
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Hooplah posted:This definitely reinforced the fact that she was completely immersed in that world (and seemingly came from it, studying art in ~the south of france~ and all that) and made her portrayal of events more compelling for me. There is no way of saying it without sounding creepy, but you would be surprised how many attractive influencer/socialite/entertainer/artist ladies have done modeling to some degree or another. It almost always involves nudes.
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Hooplah posted:Maybe you didn't listen to the interview, but they were of her preteen/adolescent sister Yep, did not, thought you were talking about the lady herself. That is supremely hosed up. Why did that exist?
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Wow, this is actually kind of funny, as opposed to Cumtown.
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Would this be considered New Sincerity? It seems very different in tone than the actual show.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:well listening to the stav show, it's kinda interesting because like with the ironic racism question, is he just goes wtf no you idiot, what i do on my comedy podcast is not what you can do at your office job, because you're going to make your co-workers uncomfortable and that's unacceptable. IDIOT Nah, man, I think you're on to something. It's legit sweet and quite progressive. I would not blame anyone for expecting a dude who says "slay puss" to respond to the lady seeing multiple people unaware of each other, or the lady repeatedly demeaning the guy she wants to propose to her in an offensive manner, but the advice is mostly solid and any putdowns are clean. Maybe lefty people just label any non-rear end in a top hat dudes in media as "leftist" these days. That was a thing with "feminist" for a while. It's probably just positive reinforcement, but I have kind of a hard time coming up with non-rear end in a top hat dude online personalities who could not be described as leftist unless they specifically cultivate an apolitical persona; like the people from Vinesauce and to some degree the RLM dudes. Admittedly, the leftist bar is at an all-time low. edit: it does go somewhat off the rails as the guest comes on thotsky has issued a correction as of 23:26 on May 14, 2020 |
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Frosted Flake posted:Just pragmatically, Genderqueer Spoonie PMC are not interested in a left that tackles material issues because it is not in the class interest. Please, come on, the actual problem with intersectionality-as-identity idpol stuff is not the gap between your two hypothethicals, no matter who you think has it worse. That gap becomes almost irrelevant when you compare it to the gap between both of those people and someone like Jeff Bezos. Losing sight of that is the real issue. thotsky has issued a correction as of 14:56 on May 15, 2020 |
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dead gay comedy forums posted:but Labour's historical socialist position was against the EU, they could have capitalized on that pretty easily imho If Corbyn had come out for Brexit he would have been roasted alive, especially by the media and the libs in Labour. I guarantee they had a bunch of stuff ready for him if he took a stand rather than cave to their bullying. He still should have, because in hindsight it would have been much better for the left if he had gone out in a blaze of glory, but it was no path to victory. The only path forward, and it was always a long shot, was to stay out of it, focus on policy, and play the traditional opposition party role, but he was denied that opportunity by forces in his own party and a hostile media who made him out to have to answer for the mess the other party made.
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gradenko_2000 posted:All that stuff about how Corbyn would have been pilloried by the media and by parts of his party if he took a stand on Leave seems kinda hollow because he was pilloried by the media regardless, and the right-wing of his party outright manufactured an ad campaign that did not exist to make him believe that they were following his direction when they weren't, and Labour took a historic loss. It could not have gotten worse, that's not the point. I think we're just saying a pro-Brexit stance is unlikely to have helped matters as far as the election goes. I still would have liked for Corbyn to have told everyone to suck it, but I believe the only actual path to victory, at the very least at the point where Labour's EU stance became a hot button issue, was to avoid the split at all.
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MizPiz posted:Just remembered something Amber was wrong about : In what sense? If we're talking as far as bowing to centrists Corbyn had to be forced to while Bernie did so by his own volition. I do, very slightly, respect the former more.
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