Sanford posted:

The most successful messaging I've found so far is "if not for Tory austerity, about 200,000 people would be alive who are now dead. That's 1000's of empty spots on the sofa, 1000's of people starting to make two cups of tea before realising their mistake, 1000's of people rolling over in bed and reaching out for someone who isn't there, 1000's of families missing someone this Christmas who should still be with them. And this is when the tories were on form, never mind the chaos of recent months." The most negative response I've had so far is "I need to think about this" from someone who told me in 2017 he couldn't see himself ever voting not tory, never mind voting labour. It's a powerful message.

Angepain posted:

Ok here's my synthesis of mine and Tigey's posts. (also lol at that kelly edit i made ages ago coming back to haunt me and still being relevant after all these years. though i guess the party being referred to in the leftmost cloud has changed somewhat.) Those in the know let me know all if there's anything needs added/taken away, i'm not a mental health professional so most of this advice is second hand:

Hi everyone! In these wild times please remember to take good care of your own mental health. This election period is going to be an absolute emotional rollercoaster, regardless of the result. There is so much at stake, both generally in the country and personally for many of us, and there are bound to be further massive highs and depressing lows as the election carries on. There will be no shortage of things happening and people saying things and stuff you could be thinking about or potentially doing to help. There will be no shortage of tedious arguments where people speak past each other or wild brawls where people accuse each other of being responsible for society's ills.

In all of this it can often feel like you're obliged to pay attention to all of the stuff going on. It can often feel like you have to exhaust yourself in order to dedicate every last drop of energy you have towards the election. There may well be times when you find yourself unable to think about anything else, constantly refreshing livefeeds or searching out new horrible things that you know will make you angry or sad and that there is nothing you can do about. This isn't healthy - don't do it.

Please make sure you are taking enough time away from politics over the next few weeks to avoid damage to your own emotional wellbeing/mental health. It's good for you, and even if you don't care about yourself it's good for those around you as well. Whatever happens we're all going to need people who care about stuff, and we're going to need a good chunk of those people to be able to get up in the morning.

If you're feeling overwhelmed or need someone to talk to, there are details of helplines you can call here, here and here.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Anyway fellow threaders - here are some numbers which might come in handy over the holidays:

quote:

The right to punish the tyrant and the right to dethrone him are the same forms. The tyrant's trial is the insurrection; the verdict, the collapse of his power; the sentence, whatever the liberty of the people requires.

Peoples do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts.

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Bury St Edmunds - Cluncho McChunk
Chelmsford - Trickjaw
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cumbernauld - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Ealing Central and Acton - Comrade Fakename
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds East - mrpwase
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Paisley & Renfrewshire South - Sanitary Naptime
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
South Cambridgeshire - feedmegin
South East Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Stroud - sebzilla
Swansea West - Borrovan
Tatton - Bundy
Watford - SpaceCommie
Wimbledon - chestnut santabag

Party Plane Jones posted:

Bobby Thompson: don't post in this thread.

VideoGames posted:

AoF please do not post in this thread anymore.

learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

Steerpike posted:

If Boris is Pericles, does that make Rees-Mogg Cato the Younger?



Who is Boris Johnson’s political hero? ‘Obviously Winston Churchill,’ said the Prime Minister yesterday. But Boris also named another figure from antiquity who has inspired him: Pericles of Athens. ‘He believed in the importance of the many, not the few,’ said Boris, helping himself to Labour’s slogan.

Boris and Pericles have a few things in common, notes Mr S. Not least a love of speaking and having a younger girlfriend: Pericles’s partner was 25 years his junior, while Carrie and Boris Johnson have a 25-year age gap. So if Boris is Pericles, which other Greco-Roman figures are today’s politicians following in the footsteps of?

Priti Patel – Draco



The Home Secretary has made it her mission to get tough on crime, recently stating that she wanted criminals to ‘literally feel terror at the thought of committing offences’. This passion for tough justice isn’t new to Patel. Back in 2011, she argued on Question Time that she ‘would actually support the reintroduction of capital punishment to serve as a deterrent’. Her law and order stance would be music to the ears of Draco, ruler of Athens during the 7th century BC. He was particularly known for his fondness of the death penalty; Plutarch records that when asked the reason for using this punishment for most offences, ‘he replied that in his opinion, the lesser ones deserved it, and for the greater ones, no heavier penalty could be found’.

Dominic Raab – Leonidas



Raab is known for his strong Eurosceptism and keen interest in martial arts. Who else could he resemble but the leader of the 300, the ancient King of Sparta, Leonidas himself? The Foreign Secretary boxed for the varsity team during his time at Oxford and has worked his way up to a third dan black belt. The ancient historian Philostratus claimed that the war-hungry Spartans developed the art of boxing in order to prepare themselves for hand-to-hand combat. And when the expansionist Persians came knocking, the Spartans held them back at all costs.

Sajid Javid – Crassus



Sajid Javid’s banking experience made him well qualified for his promotion as Chancellor. When he left his high-flying job at Chase Manhattan, Javid was earning megabucks, reportedly around £3m a year. And his ability to make money also means he has something in common with Marcus Licinius Crassus, a Roman general who earned his fortune before entering politics and forming a triumvirate with Pompey and Caesar.

Jacob Rees-Mogg – Cato the Younger



Rigidity, tradition and conservatism. These words are as easily associated with Roman senator Cato the Younger as they are with the Leader of the House of Commons. A social conservative and enthusiast for impossibly obscure words, he’s often been referred to as the ‘honourable member for the 18th century’. Rees-Mogg would surely get on like a house on fire with Cato the Younger. Cato was a man noted for his staunch support for Roman republican tradition and his refusal to bend the knee to Caesar’s progressivism. As Plutarch wrote: ‘In general, Cato thought he ought to take a course directly opposed to the life and practices of the time, feeling that these were bad and in need of great change. For instance, when he saw that a purple which was excessively red and vivid was much in vogue, he himself would wear out the dark shade.’ Perhaps this is Cato’s version of a loosely-fitting double breasted suit?

Tony Blair – Emperor Diocletian



When Blair’s New Labour was swept to power in 1997 ambitious constitutional reforms followed, including new steps towards devolved governance in Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Andrew Marr would herald the 1999 reforms as ‘The Day Britain Died’ – expressing worry over the prospect of the Union breaking away. Emperor Diocletian undertook his own territorial reform, dividing the Roman Empire into Western and Eastern regions, with each granted legislative autonomy. Ironically, the Eastern Roman Empire would survive the original Western one by just under 1,000 years. Mr S hopes that the English won’t have to endure the same fate…

Apraxin posted:

Jose posted:

extremely antisemitic of you to make the op instead of a jewish poster guavanaut

Apraxin posted:

Tesseraction posted:

look. he compromised by doing it minutes after the shabbat finished

Guavanaut posted:

It's theoretically been over for hours, but because it's so foggy and light polluted up here nobody's quite sure when the first three stars came out.

Ms Adequate posted:

Here we...... here we............... here wE FUCKIN GO!!!!!

Jose posted:

lol owen jones is on 5 live and its not going well for the BBC

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1200930024351846400?s=20
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1200930941327282176?s=20

Pochoclo posted:

Does that mean that in outer space it's always Shabbat, or that it's never Shabbat?

Pochoclo posted:

Is space antisemitic?

quote:

In our manifesto a week ago, I set out how we must reform human rights laws to shift the balance in favour of our security and intelligence services. Many human rights lawyers attacked this move. They are wrong and the public does not agree with them.

Our laws are constrained, for example, by the "right to private life" which limits surveillance of terrorists and recent court cases have placed unacceptable limits on our intelligence services. From surveillance and operations to sentencing and licensing conditions, we must shift the balance of the whole legal system in a much tougher direction against serious criminals and terrorists.

It concerns me that jeremy Corbyn is setting out plans to weaken our system and make it more difficult for our security services to stop people who want to do us harm. He wants to give more power to human rights lawyers, which would make us less safe.

Guavanaut posted:

Almost certainly.

Jose posted:

extremely antisemitic of you to make the op instead of a jewish poster guavanaut

quote:

These are the hands
That touch us first
Feel your head
Find the pulse
And make your bed.

These are the hands
That tap your back
Test the skin
Hold your arm
Wheel the bin
Change the bulb
Fix the drip
Pour the jug
Replace your hip.

These are the hands
That fill the bath
Mop the floor
Flick the switch
Soothe the sore
Burn the swabs
Give us a jab
Throw out sharps
Design the lab.

And these are the hands
That stop the leaks
Empty the pan
Wipe the pipes
Carry the can
Clamp the veins
Make the cast
Log the dose
And touch us last.

Tesseraction posted:

Just voted Leave again by accident.

Apraxin posted:

BTW, that Boris editorial in the Mail is *much* worse than the headline, he is promising some very bad things:

Apraxin posted:

BTW, that Boris editorial in the Mail is *much* worse than the headline, he is promising some very bad things:

Drone_Fragger posted:

Has Jeremy corbyn ever approved of, or been to, space. That is the tried and tested test to determine if something is actually antisemitism.

mehall posted:

Happy December you fucks, let's get this pile of shite of a government right to gently caress

Guavanaut posted:

He's also fund prisons and deradicalization programs Johnson you massive gently caress. Limits on surveillance and security services have gently caress all to do with someone who was tagged and on day release.

ItohRespectArmy posted:

https://twitter.com/LosCampesinos/status/1197985755760607233

Guavanaut posted:

It Is Still Continuing to Happen

quote:

When sister has to go to work
She locks me in the room
Has given me a doll
So that I'm not alone

Dark clouds in the sky
I dutifully take my medicine
And wait here in the down bed
Until the sun goes down

And then I tear off the doll's head
Then I tear off the doll's head
Yes, I bite off the doll's neck
I am not doing well

Guavanaut posted:

I think that if you're in a place where you can't see the sky you keep time by the last place you were when you could see the sky.

I'm not sure what you do when you can always see the sky.

Almost certainly.

Guavanaut posted:

Angepain posted:

I hope we have a good election that goes well, and not a bad one that goes bad.


Every detail of this is glorious.