Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

otoh him having known boris for long probably means he hates him

Jose posted:

this would loving own instead of what we'd actually get

https://twitter.com/mattsymonds/status/1201061723349901312?s=20

quote:

That he refers to Corbyn’s wife, Laura, not by her preferred name of Laura Alvarez, but as “Laura Corbyn” tells you all you need to know about him. There is almost nothing in here that has not already been covered by Prince and you can achieve the same effect by purchasing a copy of Comrade Corbyn and scribbling an insulting adjective every time that Corbyn or another Labour politician is mentioned. Don’t worry that the resulting book won’t make sense: this one doesn’t either.
...
As a biography, it tells us nothing we don’t already know and gets things wrong. As a hatchet job, it is a dismal failure that condemns Corbyn’s decision to skip a meaningless Arsenal match with equal intensity as it does his failure to tackle antisemitism in the Labour ranks. Its only value is as a gift to send to an enemy – and if Tom Bower had confined the readership of this book to Corbyn alone, I for one would be better off.

Braggart posted:

And the words of the prophets are written on his office walls

https://twitter.com/alexhuds/status/1200051311816953857

RockyB posted:

quote:

Dead squirrel strategy
This tactic is one used by passionate supporters of a party, usually Labour, rather than parties themselves, which (sensibly) stay well away from it. The trick begins with “extremely online” party supporters creating a “fake news” meme with some ridiculous claim about a politician, then circulating it with a sense of faux outrage among a group of people in on the joke.

The catchier of the memes, such as a claim that Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson enjoys murdering squirrels with a catapult, eventually catch on with regular internet users who believe the story, are outraged by it and share it.

When this goes really well, it leads to journalists (unable to ignore a good viral story) asking the politician about it, and if the politician really screws up, they then deny the viral claim and send it through the mainstream too. Who knows if it wins any votes, but it’s certainly an effective wind-up.

All you "extremely online" party supporters

mediadave posted:

Ugh, I'm a failure. I went to Reading today to volunteer with helping Labour, and had the idea to bring cakes and biscuits as a conversation starter as like many goons I'm socially awkward (and no one from Labour Reading had replied to my email). Instead I turned up to the stall, spoke to one guy saying I'd brought them some cakes and biscuits to keep their spirits up, he told me to talk to the other guy on the stall, and that guy looked at my offering like I'd brought them a bucket of cold vomit. Neither showed any interest in talking to me...at all, so after some awkward moments I just wandered off and spent the rest of the afternoon kicking myself. Did send a bit more money Labour and momentum's way though.

Sorry guys.

Guavanaut posted:

I've got my No 4 cocks at the ready waiting for orders from Monty and Tubbo.

Tesseraction posted:

As noted even by epic brain man James Ball https://twitter.com/RebootedStef/status/1201434862630162434

Meridian Rizing posted:

Long time lurker ing for almost the first time.

Went out canvassing around Middlesbrough South for the first time was suprisingly straightforward once I found the group. Was a generally even mix of responses.
Was pretty quick as well was done in just over an hour, if anyone was wondering how long it takes and you can drop in and out as you need to.

It was a good walk gonna do it again tomorrow gonna smash this election grab all the marginals.

Also amazing and worrying thought that so much of my politcal knowledge comes from this forum. Effortposts the best form of agitprop.

Ugh I post so little I forgot I had this garbage avatar. Need to correct that.
<<<

RockyB posted:

That is goddamn nightmarish and deserves to die, tbh.

HOW ARE IT'S LIMBS DOING THAT

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Is that a libdem manifesto in its paws?

RockyB posted:

Look at the goddamn state of that, it's essentially the squirrel form of the clown makeup meme.



I've gone on record before in this thread about my Jo; like hatred of grey squirrels (apple scrumping, tree killing, poor wee birdie slaughtering arseholes that they are). But this makes me doubt my faith in a just and loving god.

E: I feel like I need to remind people: If you catch a grey squirrel you are legally obliged to kill it rather than release it.
EE: Fair point

Josef bugman posted:

Jesus, I'm not the most educated person when it comes to foreign affairs, but I don't think anyone can be argued to be "pro-Putin" in this thread.

Isomermaid posted:

Hello UKMT, old time regular delurking because now seems as good a time as any. I left SA for a few years because it was making me sad, but I got sucked back into it when the Donkey Kong stream happened and I couldn't believe SA was... good? Again? Then I came in here and saw the change in mood was cos you threadbanned Pissflaps. Oh yeah, I transitioned somewhere in there too, that's relevant, I guess.

I know the thread doesn't do hellos but really it's a thankyou for keeping me loving sane this year, and yeah, here for the red flag waving. Hope tastes nice.

RockyB posted:

Shook. As. Fook.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/04/bbc-impartiality-precious-protect-election-coverage

quote:

Conspiracy theories are much in vogue these days. But we are a large organisation that employs thousands of independently minded journalists. Our editors employ their judgments on their own programmes for their own audiences. These aren’t the ideal conditions for a conspiracy.

quote:

And we would be particularly inept conspirators were we to produce and broadcast a two-hour leaders’ special debate – a debate in which the prime minister was robustly challenged by the public – run highlights of it on our evening bulletins, cover it in full online and yet rely on a clumsy one-second edit in a short news summary the next day as a means to convey our supposed support for the governing party.

Similarly, to suggest this is in some way linked to an editorial mistake made a fortnight previously by a different team in an office hundreds of miles away, in which an archive cenotaph clip was wrongly used in a news package (about an event broadcast in its entirety by us the day before) is fanciful.

Camrath posted:

Totally homemade (I mean, I don’t condense my own milk or grow my own spices, but you know what I mean!)

I’ve always loved sweeties and started making fudge the first Christmas after I had to stop working as I could afford gently caress all else. Then discovered I’m pretty good at it. My wife’s been telling me since then that I should sell it, but it’s taken me this long to get over all the associated anxiety that brings and actually go into action. I’ve been making a batch a week for the past few months to experiment and refine technique, flavours etc- some of which have been amazing and others I’ll never let see the light of day

Can I get a mod/IK response as to if it’s ok to link to the Facebook page here?

Camrath posted:

https://www.facebook.com/105554397597689/posts/105579917595137?d=n&sfns=mo

Azza Bamboo posted:

mfcrocker posted:

mmmmm, squirrel pie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtLMzIOlmbs

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/Milo_Edwards/status/1202696944767950848?s=20

Tesseraction posted:

lmao https://twitter.com/MPIainDS/status/1202969400514625536

RockyB posted:

Graun live blog has been on fire with the candid photos lately.



Now that's an expression that says "Oh god what have I done with my life".

The little girl has obviously just made a squirrel joke.

unwantedplatypus posted:

Its going to own when the year is 2040 and Greta Thunberg is head guillotine operator of the 6th international

edit: realtalk it's going to be interesting to see her radicalize in real time and the media response to that.

Pistol_Pete posted:

I really hate talking to strangers and the number of people getting actively involved on here makes me feel bad So, well done all of you and I promise to donate some more money to the Good Cause this weekend.

Junkenstein posted:

What are some good examples of parts of the NHS that have already been privatised, to counter the 'if tories wanted to sell the NHS they would have done it by now' bullshit?

GordonTheDeadFish posted:

I posted a few months ago about finally joining Labour, after years of putting up with increasingly gammony family. I did that, but I've had some health issues over the last few months. Losing my brother did a number on my depression, with all the attendant woes.

Well, I've finally decided to go out and do something - just emailed my local branch about the canvassing and leafleting events for the next few days. Probably won't be the biggest impact - I'm in Poole, and a 14k Con majority won't be beaten overnight. Is anyone else round this way? Not sure how it'll go in such a safe seat, and I'm even a little worried about running into someone from work.

Despite what the national polls say, the energy of this election feels very different to 2017. I'd never have even considered something like this without reading everyone here posting about getting out there, and the podcast has been a great boost as well. Really curious just how many extra people have got into campaigning because of this thread.

Chuka Umana posted:

ThomasPaine posted:

That survation poll has really thrown me lads and I'm dangerously close to despair. Someone please provide a reassuring counterpoint...

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Bow down and worship your god:

Azza Bamboo posted:

I do wonder if there's voters out there who will make their decision based on leaflets they got through the door as though choosing a local MP was like choosing what takeaway you'll have tonight

"oh yeah I'll give that a try"

Sanford posted:

What gently caress off, I just tried to donate another £20 and they told me the average was £23! Someone donate a grand and see if they say the average is £1,003. To be honest it has been effective, I have donated several times and always click the button for an extra quid or two...

Venuz Patrol posted:

exit poll seems to point toward the most absurd possible outcome, with boris johnson and jo swinson both losing their seats despite a tory majority forming

Flayer posted:

What is wrong with northerners... How come London is the biggest Labour stronghold now

vaguely posted:

from tomorrow we take all the energy that went into this election and we throw it into parallel structures, so that at least some of the marginalised might survive what's coming. homeless outreach, foodbanks, anti-racism, supporting anyone who gets thrown off benefits and has nothing else to live on. wildcat strikes any time the tory fuckers give us the slightest excuse. if we have to build a better society ourselves, with our own hands and sweat and blood, let's loving do it and show that out here at least someone still cares.

frankenfreak posted:

<1% is still >0

Azza Bamboo posted:

I'm not going to theorise as to why we lost. Disasters on this scale are usually caused by more than one failure point. I'm going to make one isolated criticism about the message, but you've heard this criticism before, and you've hated this criticism before. In short: Let's not make it complicated.

I know you love to think, and to explore the minutiae of socialism as a wonderful historical movement for justice with its wealth of academic ideas and the exciting new policies it's willing to put down. Most people have switched off by then. The press aren't going to explain these things for you, either.

Is that stupid?

I don't care! Political analysis is a rare hobby in this country, and you're rightly allowed to vote even if you don't stay up into the early hours of the morning wasting your life on spreadsheets. You're allowed to vote even if you haven't read that book you snobbishly suggest everyone must read, or see that documentary everyone really must see. It's very much good taste to idealise a world in which we have all become churched sufficiently as to be baptized in socialist discourse. I sincerely hope we're there in time. With real people and a few weeks in an election campaign, though? Get real!

Compare how long it takes to read an article with how long it takes to understand the political cartoon underneath it. It's probably my cartoonist speaking, but we need a Labour party which can explain itself at a glance.

"It's time for real change" is the exact kind of nebulous messaging we were criticising Change UK for when they called themselves Change UK. It's almost word for word their exact message. "For the many, not the few" is still far from clear, and may even require a bit of foreknowledge to explain who the "many" and the "few" are. When it comes to Vote Leave and the new government, I know we all love to mock its Spartan wit, but they get their point across at a glance.

"Get Brexit Done"
"Oven Ready Deal"
"Get On With Our Priorities"
"Safer Streets."
"Investing [big number] in the NHS."

I know political people want desperately to try and go a layer deeper into thinking about where these statements are lies or what historic political complexes belie them and their authors. No one's reading that essay, though. Just look at the drat picture the words paint. Its lines are much sharper than our fuzzy scribbles.

Pesmerga posted:

It’s time to dump the ‘kinder, gentler politics’ approach. Humanity is fighting for its survival (both in terms of the species and in terms of its ethics). People need to keep themselves and those they care about safe, as we can’t expect those in power to do it.