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Darth Walrus posted:The problem is that British journalism is atrophied and bad at social media. Something can go viral on WhatsApp and they just won't notice it. Wait a tic How does something go viral "on WhatsApp"? I thought it was like an encrypted group messaging app. There's no feed or anything, right? How does something propagate through the network? Lots of taking photos of chats and sending them to other chats?
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They’ve made Jezza look like the devil, or at least a Breaking Bad character, which I get, but they’ve also made Boris look like a ghost, which seems like a gently caress up on their part. +++POWERFUL CORBYN’S DEVIL ENERGY SLAYS FEEBLE JOHNSON
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OwlFancier posted:I recently learned that Victoria 2, the mapgame, has "anarcho liberals" in it. So basically the way politics works in Vicky is there are ideologies, and each class of population has (theoretically) interests and an ideology they naturally incline to. Capitalists are Liberal, obviously, craftsmen (factory workers) are Socialist, farmers (I think) are Conservative, etc. But there's other inputs to the system: each POP has a consciousness score and a militancy score, basically how politically aware they are and how pissed off they are. With low consciousness, a POP might vote against its interest, I think usually for whatever the local Conservative party. Militancy is more interesting, in that it makes the POP more radical. So, there are four base ideologies in the game: Liberal (voting rights for all, laissez-faire capitalism), Conservative (resist change), Socialist (controlled economy but also no democracy??) and Fascist (WAAAAAR). The first three of these also have radicalised variant ideologies that a POP will switch to when it's mad. Conservatives go Reactionary, Socialists go Communist, and Liberals... go Anarcho-Liberal. Because the devs needed a "radicalised" version of liberalism and had never heard of the Jacobins or the, heh, Radicals, I guess. That's the root of the whole problem: an overly-schematised game design awkwardly attempting to fit the entire political spectrum of the 19th century. The lack of any sort of non-authoritarian socialism is born of a similar kludge: the game has two sets of "reforms" you can pass, like laws that determine how your country works: political reforms (voting rights) and social reforms (workers rights). Liberals are for political reforms and will compromise on social reforms if things are going badly. Socialists are for social reforms and will compromise on political reforms. Conservatives will resist both. They had a slot to fill and they squashed socialism into it. It dumb.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I think it's less that it's schematised, and more the schema was seemingly designed before anything else. Like, dividing ideologies by their level of contentment with the status quo is a perfectly fine idea, you just need to make it so radicalization can cause ideological divergence rather than force everything to go down a single axis. Yeah, I've no problem with the consciousness/militancy system in principle. It's a real shame that V2 never got on the infinite tuning patch/expansion treadmill that came in with CK2, because they are going to rip the heart straight out of that game if they get a chance to do a whole-boat redesign.
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RockyB posted:In other news David Graeber, author of the article "Stop talking about Jews it's dangerous" has a new video out called "Stop loving talking about Jews dick heads you're going to get us all killed by fascists" Good loving video. On the subject of Graeber, if there's anyone who still hasn't read it yet Debt is a great book. "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggle" but from an anthropologist.
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Dec 4, 2019 01:22
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chestnut santabag posted:Hello fellow first time counting agent! Might want to think about comfy shoes, too. The couple of times I've done it it's been about six straight hours of standing and occasionally walking around on hard floors, after a long day of being up and about already. e: And if you're currently employed, take the day after off. You'll be there until the wee hours of the morning.
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Dec 4, 2019 01:56
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Archaeology Hat posted:How does that work, just personally I in no way have the same positions I had when I was 21. At 21 I was a liberal who felt there was a place for free market solutions anywhere in society, now I want to nationalise everything we can and turn everything else into workers co-ops.  I’m 31 now and basically all of my political development has taken place in the last half of the last decade. Jesus Christ was I a dipshit at 21.
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Dec 4, 2019 11:04
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Should have been squirrels. Shaking my head at these absolute amateurs.
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mediaphage posted:Btw joe biden unveiled his new tour bus and if you haven’t seen it, it really just screams jo; to me "No malarkey!" Boomer energy radiating off this thing could cook a goat at a hundred paces.
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Saros posted:
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I can't remember the exact details but there's something in the body language of people who are nervous about cats that, in cat body language, says "Hey man, you seem cool, come over and talk". It's also possible that they are in fact just cunts. Maybe they see you’re on edge and want to come make sure you’re okay.
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Dec 4, 2019 18:23
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2017 was a roller-coaster for me. When the election was called it seemed like we were hosed. Then, when things started to look like they were improving I scarcely wanted to believe it. When the polls just kept narrowing I was taken over by this bubbly, incredulous optimism that's never really gone away. This year? This year I feel motherfucking invincible. Believe, friends. We are going to vote Corbyn in so hard they're going to be picking pieces of Johnson off the walls.
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Dec 5, 2019 11:48
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Barry Foster posted:Blows my mind that some of the people interviewed are still considering voting Tory There just isn't anyone else offering a credible reactionary platform of selling paup flesh by the pound and all the boot leather you can eat.
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Dec 5, 2019 13:20
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Failed Imagineer posted:Pretend I found the relevant picture and posted it here, rather than spending 5 minutes fruitlessly googling variants of "untitled goose Boris Johnson Brexit DUP". It was a funny image tho Not sure if it’s what you’re thinking of but this was in the replies to that tweet: https://twitter.com/stephengraves/status/1202543789153411073?s=20
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Dec 5, 2019 13:43
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Yeah anyone who has been to a branch meeting knows that every one has a weird old anti-semite (they are usually also the branch's legacy tankie) We expelled ours. Felt good.
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Dec 5, 2019 14:54
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Tesseraction posted:Anyway here's the Grauniad clutching its pearls about how the rude teens don't read the news but just share memes https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/05/uncovered-reality-of-how-smartphones-turned-election-news-into-chaos So, there are six images on this article. Four feature Corbyn, and three of those is negative about him. There are two with Boris, and both are neutral. Fiona from Bolton, 22-year old Tory, gets three shoutouts.
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Trickjaw posted:the front wheelers ...the who? 
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Dec 6, 2019 23:56
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Peloton did a controversial ad (controversial in the sense that the man buys his woman an exceedingly expensive exercise bike, she works out for a year, and gives him a present of the new improved her the following year). I watched the ad in the interests of research - she doesn't look any different to me. But in any case it's really sexist. If anyone hasn't seen this ad it is surreal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShKu2icEYw
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Dec 7, 2019 20:35
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Re fake Corbyn on twitter - how do you get a blue tick if you're a fake? You get a blue tick for other reasons and then you change your username.
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Dec 8, 2019 01:53
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One of my best friends is in tears because of this poo poo: https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1203922486968147969 She's been here for decades. gently caress these people. Tesseraction posted:Hey this is a pretty good post by r-- *spit-takes, pops monocle* who are you and what have you done with the real radmonger
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Dec 9, 2019 13:28
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Well, the only mountainous setting we got is the Highlands, and I don't see the last of the Tories holing up there, soo... ...gonna be a climactic duel with the last Grand Master of the Orange Order atop Ben Nevis?
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Dec 9, 2019 14:58
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Right that can explain the spread of values but not the spread of movement, unless they're tweaking their turnout weighting as they go too which is pretty loving dodgy. If company A and company B was seeing the same breakdown of support for parties across demographics, but A was going with fixed values for expected turnout while B was weighting on, I don't know, expressed likelihood to vote, and that was showing increasing likelihood to vote among more pro-labour groups, then B would show a strong movement to Labour that just wouldn't appear in A's numbers. I don't know if that's actually what's going on here but depending on what information channels you weight more heavily it doesn't seem completely unreasonable? Meanwhile: https://twitter.com/imbadatlife/status/1203965173947666432 
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Step-mother just texted to say she's sat down with the manifestos and will now be voting Labour, "even though [she's] not so keen on Jezza!!!". I think that's the whole family now, unless my grandparents have  'd themselves into a Lib vote. But they live in Edinburgh South, so they can go swivel.Necrothatcher posted:I got told off by my canvassing partner for being too manipulative last night. There was a woman and her 8-year-old kid on the doorstep, who has some kind of condition that means they often have to go to A&E. I asked the kid if he liked waiting around for hours to be seen by a doctor, he said he hated it. I switched back to the Mum and went through Labour's NHS plans with her, as well as chatting about the picture of the boy on the floor. Bit of a gamble, people really don't like being manipulated. But if you got out of there without the mum giving you a bollocking for it I reckon you're safe.
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xtothez posted:General election 2019: Ads are 'indecent, dishonest and untruthful' Not certain what "however" is doing heading that second sentence.
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Communist Thoughts posted:any point in me voting tactically in edinburgh north? its close between SNP then Labour then Cons, i'm of two minds since i dont want the cons in but i figure if the cons split anyone its gonna be the SNP so labour might be a better bet Angepain posted:Hi fellow Edinburgh North And Leither! I see we've both been having the same dilemma. The line that we've been giving people- and it's a line I do personally believe- is that this is the Tories' ceiling in N&L. Labour and SNP combined have 65.2% of the vote in the constituency. Even if they split that perfectly between them, 32.6% each, the Tories would still be in third place. By five points. And that's their best case scenario. If we're imagining defections from this binary, who are they and where are they going? Are the Tories picking up Leaver Nats? Rich, pro-Union, Leaver Nats? I'm not convinced that's a large intersection. Well-off, pro-Union, Leaver Labs? Bigger, but if you're in that group and you were going to defect, why didn't you do it in 2017? Lib Dems? Even if we do manage to envision a Lib Dem/Tory switcher in the year of our lord Ultra-Brexit (there will be some, voters are strange creatures), even if they took the entire Lib vote it wouldn't put them over the line. Labour or SNP to Lib is more of a danger but with the Dems on 4% here and Swinson's car crash performance it seems unlikely. Your final option is changes in turnout disproportionately benefiting the Tories. That'd mean falling turnout, practically, which again does not seem likely. I'll also say that the reception we've been getting on stalls and on doors in N&L has been improving every week. This last weekend we couldn't keep leaflets on the stall they were going out that fast.
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Zalakwe posted:Anyone got that recent video of Brown backing Corbyn? https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1203013711113392134
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Dec 11, 2019 11:58
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VideoGames posted:I am so full of hope I am fit to burst but I am also so worried that I am all over the place. Aw, what the poo poo VG. You lost your red star in FYADgate?
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VideoGames posted:I chose to step down. It is OK. I do not want to go fully into it but I am very saddened by everything that has happened on the forums and would rather be looking after Games itself than any more of the site. Ah heck. Well, that's fair, I wouldn't want to be responsible for this place either. I've always thought you were a great mod, VG, and you made a great admin.
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Dec 11, 2019 13:51
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OwlFancier posted:Are the bollywood soaps really like that? I found a channel that showed them once. Spent an afternoon transfixed, watching unsubtitled soaps in a language I didn't understand. They were all exactly like that- dramatic audio cues, rapid tone shifts, constant reaction shots. Better than loving EastEnders at any rate. e: CottonWolf posted:I can't help thinking about "Unskewed polls" every time I read Dr Moderate tweet... Same, optimistic as I am. Bad as the professional psephology is I can't imagine the amateur stuff is any better. Might as well throw bones. It would help if I knew who this guy is.
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painted into a coroner posted:Replace Corbyn, who, under the Labour Manifesto has committed himself to a second referendum, and trigger a leadership contest for X amount of months when the next Brexit deadline is 31 January 2020. Very good political insight! Anyone who was in politics in the 80s must feel like a fish on the moon at this point. Even Corbs, bless him.
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Slept like a babe in the arms of the Corbster. Awoke brimming with power and a will to do socialism. Voted early and arrived at work a hour before anyone else. Am now bouncing off the walls. Let's do it, comrades. JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Gonna stamp on his neck i am Go with God.
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Dec 12, 2019 09:48
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Sulphagnist posted:Graeber's Debt is a really good and insightful book. It's not even written from a socialist perspective even though the author is a socialist, it's just that if you actually take your time to pick through the anthropology and history of money and debt, you arrive at socialism unless you're a sociopath. Absolutely. Best book I read this year, no contest.
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Mugsbaloney posted:I haven't read any Blyth stuff for a while, but I had a disquieting memory of him speaking in glowing terms about Liz Warren, hopefully nothing serious but I am vigilant for signs of meltiness Failed Imagineer posted:Honestly he'd be the last person I'd expect to melt Nah, he's melty as gently caress. He sees Corbyn and the rest of the left-wing resurgence as a well-intentioned but ultimately retrograde movement and that an actual solution to the current crisis has to come from innovative liberals. He thinks capital's just going to get together and solve climate change when it gets bad enough lol
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Vlex posted:So one thing that crossed my mind was that Cumming Dom's strategy was supposedly to hold back everything until the last week of the campaign in order to carpet bomb voters with ads. I mean, I'm hardly the demographic, but I really haven't seen anything resembling pro-Tory advertising saturation? It's very very heavily targeted. We know it did actually happen because their ad spend jumped way way up.
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stev posted:Lol loads of people at work are wearing red today. Didn't realise that was a thing people did. Got red boots, always wear 'em, feelin' good. Shirt is blue, though.  https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1205062739342827520
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Early reports: "Midlothian is red as hell" (Midlothian is a defence against the SNP)
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forkboy84 posted:Good to hear. Danielle Rowley is good people. Yes she is.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:God damnit even they are saying to vote Lib in Wantage. Looks like they're pulling from one of the tactical voting sites.
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quidditch it and quit it posted:Just got in from 13 hours of knocking on doors, phoning people, and fixing the abysmal maps. Yeah if you have low canvassing turnouts or high turnover in the constituency the information on the sheets is next to worthless
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