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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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They don't know there's such a thing as the Black Sea, so an enclosed area must be a state.

Also see: The Caspian Sea Khanate.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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WeedlordGoku69 posted:

real talk, with people suddenly thinking the prequels were good:

that started a little before the new trilogy did, and i strongly suspect it has less to do with the new trilogy, and more to do with the fact that people who grew up with the prequels are now teens/adults and capable of putting together thoughts more complex than "pee pee poo poo i farted." resultingly, people who like the prequels are a bigger group than they used to be online.

the new-trilogy hate, following from this, is really just a repeat of what we saw with the prequels: the people who grew up with the last trilogy hate the gently caress out of the one that's going on while they're adults, and see it as an insult to their childhood, because realistically speaking Star Wars didn't really get better or worse so much as they just grew up. poo poo that previously just rolled off them because "hell yeah lightsabers" is now very, very irritating to them, and they can't take their nostalgia goggles off for the old stuff to see that it had the exact same problems.

in 20 years when they make another trilogy, we'll probably have a bunch of people who grew up with Rey and Finn and Poe going ARGLEBARGLE NOT MY STAR WARS at that, just like how people who grew up with Anakin and Obi-Wan are going ARGLEBARGLE NOT MY STAR WARS at the sequels, and people who grew up with Luke and Han and Leia went ARGLEBARGLE NOT MY STAR WARS at the prequels. it's just the circle of life.

I see, the only way to stop this cycle of violence is to abolish all Star Wars, including retroactively.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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It's OK to get played and pressured into joining an organization you don't really understand and only know about from state propaganda. It becomes more problematic and immoral when the same people then proceed to uncritically adopt that organization as part of their identity even after experiencing it and living through it, though I think there's a willful tendency to underestimate the power of indoctrination and the malleability of one's brain when faced with systematized pressure, which does disservice to any good faith attempts to fight against it.

OTOH, calling American soldiers on the internet child murderers is always a good call.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I love posts that basically say "I'm not judging you but I'm totally judging you."

"I don't have that problem, bye!"

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Aramoro posted:

I've only played about 20 hours or so of Cyberpunk 2077 so far but it matches up pretty well with Mike Pondsmiths ideas. It's a dystopia where corporations rule the world and capitalism is king. He also said that Bladerunner was a major influence on him writing it, and he never read Neuromancer so make that what you will when deciding what is and isn't Cyberpunk.

The society you are in in Cyberpunk 2020 is not punk, that's the idea. The fact the cops in 2077 will pay you to execute some dude in the street fit well with that. Where it deviates is that if you do a crime in 2020 then the police show up and absolutely loving obliterate you, not just yell at you till you drive away.

Setting off a nuke in a corporate headquarters seems pretty Cyberpunk, the fact that it changes nothing is even more Cyberpunk.

Mike Pondsmith worked for CDPR full time for the time of the development, so yes, it should very much be a Cyberpunk game, if perhaps not a cyberpunk game. The name ever only referred to the RPG.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I'm not going to play any more Obsidian games until they apologize for and reverse the American occupation of Afghanistan.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Big Mackson posted:

I feel very PUNK driving down the street suddenly spotting YOUTHS with BOUNTIES put on them by corpo fascist police. I then trusting the SYSTEM to tell me who the BAD GUYS are i pull out my SILENCED REVOLVER sneak crouch attack kill them all in seconds, then loot their bodies. A passerby looks at me horrified, saying some NONSENSE about "they had a family" and "couldnt you just have knocked them out"? I was just going to reply when a casual scan suddenly revealed a bounty of 10 eurodollars for littering near a corpo vending machine. sighing i took out my SILENCED REVOLVER...

Cyberpunk is known for having highly moral pacifist protagonists pure of virtue, I'm very intelligent and not trying to come up with stupid complaints just because.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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You are all welcome to my annual day of burning Shadowrun books because it allows you to do runs for corporations (25 Dec)

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Cyberpunk never was anything other than a new coat of paint over existing boilerplate concepts, all this purism and talk about the essence of cyberpunk is bullshit. We've swapped all the things from America to take place in Japan instead because we think Japan is the next big deal and isn't going to end up in a thirty year spiral of stagnation, oh wowee.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The only punk I respect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9r0egZH7tU

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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The UK is 50% self-sufficient in vegetables and 20% in fruit, so my guess is "it's not great"

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Necrothatcher posted:

Our beneficent government has promised us "adequate food".

I wonder how the promised offensive of artisanal jam exports into the EU is going to work without fruit. I don't think there's much call for turnip jam in France.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Fun fact: Britain is only two thirds self sufficient in potato. lol

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Has there been a movement by incels to be included in the LGBT?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Skwirl posted:

The term was invented by a woman to describe her experience being an older lesbian in a small town.

Well, yeah, but, you know

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Skwirl posted:

A hamburger with grilled onion and a fried egg is loving delicious, why the gently caress would you skip the part where you cook it?

A well prepared and seasoned mett or steak tartare from fresh meat is way better than a hamburger.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mega Comrade posted:

There are specific standards in place to avoid you getting sick from steak tartar. 'cannibal sandwich' is just store bought raw mince spread over bread.

I mean the same thing is pretty popular in Germany and surrounding countries and people aren't getting sick.

E: Deja vu, I had the exact same discussion in the Anti-Food Porn thread like a month ago

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Granted, the one in the picture doesn't look very good :effort:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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It means there's absolutely nothing special or unusual or persecutable about you, but you still want to feel like an embattled minority because you are a self-centered piece of poo poo who can't bear not being the focus of any debate.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Trying to turn "I only want to gently caress when I feel like it" into an identity is extremely mockable, actually.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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It's something literally everybody experiences, and singling it out as something distinctive only makes sense through the prism of growing up poorly socialized through awful internet "communities".

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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AlbieQuirky posted:

Thank you!

So, why don’t we do it in the US? We seem to grow enough rhubarb the regular way. (Disclaimer: I hate rhubarb so honestly don’t pay attention to it.)

I would guess it's the advantage of growing at a larger scale? It becomes cheaper to just let the plant grow than to try get as much as possible from each one.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Never could get past Fry's uber-smug, condescending upper class accent and mannerism. Few people radiate a worse aura of arrogance and conceit, even if it's "just a persona or whatever" - it's still extremely off-putting, and glorifies the worst in English culture.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Well, he is friends with the alleged rapist-murderer Bob Saget. And the less said about his trusty sidekick Adam Eget, the better.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Question Mark Mound posted:

The only thing weirder than the reputation SA had when it was hugely popular as a rotten.com style shock site (was that stuff ever big here?) is the reputation it currently has from people on Twitter who think it’s some alt-right hive of furry-hunters in 2020.

The only people who talk about SA outside of SA are former posters who were banned and now hold obsessive grudges against their former posting enemies.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Regarde Aduck posted:

i'm having trouble parsing her take as anything other than jews = white supremacy

what was she actually trying to say?

"end white supremacy" is a code for "kill the jews" when you are arguing in extremely good faith

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Whats worse

-people who identify with a HP house
-people who identify with a Myers-Briggs type

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Roblo posted:

Thats a lot more thought than Rowling put into it

Just like with everything in HP, it started as such because it was a recognizable and relatable trope that would play well in a book for children, especially with the focus on siblings aging into each other's clothes and inheriting battered hand-me-ons etc, and it simply didn't survive the transformation of the series from an adventure story for kids towards a terrible socio-political wannabe thriller for manchildren that happened at some point. It doesn't make sense in a story that has decided to take itself more "seriously", but also can¨t be thrown away because nerds would throw a shitfit.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Print it by the ton and drop it out of planes the next time there's a war

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I'm no expert, but I think mal-e is a harmful application you can download from the internet by opeining an email attachment

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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It's absolutely loving unbelievable there are actually people who fell for the "metaverse" nonsense.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Dr. Stab posted:

I'm not sure what about adding the restriction of "the data needs to be on the blockchain, making it immutable" makes it more possible to make cross game compatible assets.

Look, the only thing hat matters is to make every computer, every console into a poorly disguised Bitcoin mining rig

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Arivia posted:

This is demonstrably incorrect, Jobst talked about it at length in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_jcpig-C2s

e: and he leaves it up to you whether you want to keep watching his stuff or not, so whatever choice anyone makes is of course fine. I'm just pointing out that Karl Jobst has actually addressed the issue head on publicly.

Sounds like any semi-legitimate excuse not to watch videos about speedrunning would be a massive advantage for pretty much anybody.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

Is there a quick refresher course on jorp’s all meat diet and it’s results? Boss think he’s got the right idea and is thinking about it but (fortunately I guess) he’s likely too lazy to do it

Does your boss want to end up in a state of persistent waking nightmares followed by a year long coma at a shady Serbian hospital due to drinking a glass of cider?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

They were discussing diets for him and his (legally unmarried)wife and which restaurants they’re banned from and which they’re boycotting and some nebulous food “allergies” and since neither of them cook if it would be feasible to doordash meat and meat accessories or if they could support that at the bar, cuz that one doctor they went and saw 2 years ago(Peterson) and his daughter did this only meat diet and it worked great but we’ve probably never heard of it cuz of the man, or something

May he and his wife become one with the lobster

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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FFT posted:

Are you sure?



Are you really sure?



People always say "Jorp, he's a professor! He must be an expert on a lot of things" and I'm like, yeah, he's a professor, a professor of "knowing things about a guy who thought fairy tales were real and also alchemy"

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Kit Walker posted:

lol next you're going to tell me there are atoms of the same element with different atomic weights. lol, lmao

It's Uranium-238 not...uh...hold on...

I don't like them putting alpha radiation into elements that turns the fricking atoms gay!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Panfilo posted:

A lot of boomers insist they were taught there would be 'global cooling' in the future, which seems at best a gross mischaricterization of some other catastrophe (like the prospect of a nuclear winter through the cold War).

This also pokes a huge hole in their insistence other things they learned were absolute- OK so they said the planet would freeze and it didn't, which means what they were taught was wrong or misguided? Well, they were also taught other things like how gender was a binary and IQ is genetic but funny how they are rather reluctant to let go of things like that huh.

I think most boomers just remember something about ice ages being cyclical, and that's it. They don't remember the cycles take thousands of years, and they don't care because their whole lives they've been taught that caring is for pussies.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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teethgrinder posted:

My added nuance to this, something I only recently heard about, but Neville Chamberlain gets SO MUCH poo poo for appeasing the Nazis, but I've heard the argument made that he was fully aware of the repercussions, but was buying time until the UK actually had a hope in hell of fending them off.

I'm sure students of WW2 history are aware of this, and have possibly already cancelled it, but as a 40 year old, it was new information to me I hadn't considered.

Appeasement was a geopolitical strategy with some reasoning behind it, but hat doesn't mean it was successful or well-advised. It gave Germany all the time and resources to gear up for war with France and defeat all its immediate enemies in Central Europe in detail at a minimal cost, while the Western Allies squandered every opportunity the extra time supposedly should have given them. Meanwhile defeating Germany at any point in around 1938, either preemptively or in response to any of their many transgressions, would have been a relative pushover.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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teethgrinder posted:

I think it was obvious/demonstrable though that the UK wasn't capable of it a that point and no nation had the appetite to do it. Like yes, 100% it would have been better to have done it but no one was willing/ready to invade.

edit: though (minding how evil the UK has been historically), it would be "fun" speculative fiction to imagine Europe/the World if they had successfully invaded Germany during Hitler's rise. It must exist but I haven't stumbled across it.

Yes, it was a single element in a cascade of political failures in which both the UK and France failed spectacularly to respond to a looming but very much preventable crisis not due to material weakness, but entirely due to political factors and abandoning the system of guarantees they themselves put in place to prevent this exact scenario. Even at the time of the Munich agreement, the size of the available German military was only a shadow of what it would become, with severe equipment shortages.

So it's hard to consider appeasement as anything but an abysmal failure, due to being a continuation of a trend that enabled the war. The only thing to admit is that the French were equally as guilty as the English. And this is the more charitable interpretation, discounting the alternative reading that it was a deliberate policy to encourage a war between Germany and the USSR.

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