turd in my singlet posted:

so since the US is basically doing fuckall, when will herd immunity start to become an actual thing? i've seen claims of 60% of the population having antibodies being a figure that Sweden was working with

330 million people (US pop) * 60% of population infected = 198 million cases

198 million cases * 1% death rate = 1.98 million deaths

so.... wait for two million people to die then it's safe to go out??????


i think that's part of the point

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

they all have to go to the same places to buy anything though

Charlz Guybon posted:

Plenty of nation states have lost way bigger percentages to plague, natural disaster or war and kept on trucking.

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Is that even a remotely effective covering?

pancake rabbit posted:

seems less than ideal

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1259182674691883009

Drinkfist posted:

Although the post is quite poetic I don't understand why he wrote the the million twice in there like he was doing that hiding the double "the" trick.

Drinkfist posted:

Gottem. It's early morning. Had to do it.

shovelbum posted:

Yeah exactly this, foraging/hunting/whatever doesn't scale up to match the demands of an industrial society

Thoguh posted:

This seems wierd to me because this thing rips through nursing homes, if nothing else. If it was around all the way back then why did it not spread like it is now?

Inceltown posted:

Everyone is saying how poo poo it is for Bryan Adams to say that stuff but no one is facing the cold hard reality that we could have been eating bats 30 years ago and stopped him a lot sooner.

Throatwarbler posted:

People on reddit are saying that if you only have a small number of potential infections among a large population you can swab like 100 people at once, throw the swabs in a hopper and then reagent the whole batch at once, which is a lot faster, with most batches being negative but as soon as one batch turns positive you can go back to those 100 people and test them individually, and you can do this concurrently with local lock downs i.e. test whole city blocks at one, then lock down the blocks with positives for further testing, so it's not going to be like the US testing and reagenting each swab one at a time and they can do a massive number of tests in a short time.

The Oldest Man posted:

No, it was because the flu was placed under unusual selection pressure from WW1 hospital camps that favored lethality (the opposite of selection pressure in most environments) and that more-lethal form is what circulated in the second wave of the pandemic. Had nothing to do with people contracting it multiple times.

Zeno-25 posted:

I wonder how effective it would be to have a bunch of consumer-grade HEPA filters in indoor public environments?

I'm guessing you'd need a high turnover of the air volume to make any real difference

Tei posted:

Only in usa big corporations are considered leftist.

Man Musk posted:

Speaking of capitalism, Saudi Arabia owns ~8% of Carnival Cruises, plus other recreational stocks...

https://twitter.com/alexweprin/status/1261408123044036608

Maybe opening 'er up is an agenda, maybe not, i do not know.

Crusader posted:

lol drat just checked and mutual annihilation of the average human with their antimatter counterpart is like 5k megaton yield

still smaller than the dinosaur impact but gotta start somewhere

ChristsDickWorship posted:

boomers are the generation that couldn't figure out coffee and cooked casseroles their entire lives, how could they be more particular about wine than millenials

Funion posted:

I think someone predicted a thread or two ago that the USA would do the worst possible thing in terms of the economy and death, by having ineffective lockdowns followed by opening up prematurely. Good thing that didn't happen.

Spoondick posted:

the virus is going to directly suppress lots of retail, travel, tourism and service industries for 2 years, then a recovery will begin to occur but probably not quickly because everyone will be too broke from wage losses and plague bills or cautious about spending money in such an environment

Cowpocalypse posted:

america is the greatest country in the world, that's why so many of our people are dying - because we're all fat and sick

Radirot posted:

this form of protest is loving lame.

Siljmonster posted:

imagine being scared of cell phone towers and not the sun

Zil posted:

I love these images where they just pull random words together to try to make themselves sound important

facetoucher cat posted:

https://twitter.com/IvankaTrump/status/1262095075963736064

How's everyone's pandemic posting going?

snoo posted:

lmao cops are useless

Perry Mason Jar posted:

What the hell? Jobs don't give life meaning.

Acelerion posted:

you can get a rack, bar, and plates for a few hundred (normally)

Come join garage crew and laugh at the new years gym goers while you freeze to death

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I've had more success with not trying to actively find substitutes to fill my meat hole and instead finding veggies I like on their own merit.

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

it looks like that line is just y=x as a reference for where the r values are equal

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

While SARS-CoV-2 has a very high R0, it looks like it also may have a very low dispersion factor. That means that it goes off like a bomb in the right places and doesn't really spread evenly at all when the ingredients aren't right. Here's parts from a good thread on it:

https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1262871743972114432

https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1262873604796145665

So covid outbreaks are extremely stochastic. 3/4 times nothing may happen and 1/4 times it may blow up. There may be some environments that are conducive to superspreading or some people that are super spreaders while the median chance of infection remains quite low.

This sort of information combined with the low household attack rate leads me to believe that if people don't spend a prolonged duration with an infected person doing an activity that generates droplets, then they probably won't get infected.

Ebola Roulette posted:

Epidemiologists still don't know if superspreaders are due to different behavior or different physiology (eg viral shedding).

Honj Steak posted:

Still, nobody knows how many Americans actually got infected. It’s probably somewhere between 1-5% of the population. So best case, you’re looking at ~ 1 million dead upon reaching herd immunity, worst case is 7+ million.

shovelbum posted:

yeah i mean doctors work together to

a) artificially create a doctor shortage
b) lobby to prop up the cost of healthcare to $america
c) own their own businesses and have subordinate non-owner employees

there is labor being done but i dont think you can say theyre the same as the guy working at the hog factory or we

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i need to see this. how do i see this.

Squizzle posted:

its simple math, correctly done

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

*hand hovers over probate button*

Mourne posted:

this poor soul makes zero figgies

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

So the whole Sweden didn't close and they seem to be not doing differently thing is confusing as gently caress to me. I am assuming the news I'm seeing isn't telling the whole story? Or has Sweden been mostly life as usual this whole time?

Squizzle posted:

facetoucher cat posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1263797024396361728

Totally not an insurance scam

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

"several weeks" isn't long enough for things to get flooded yet, especially since

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

C. despite the "average R0", it sounds like there's larger chunks towards either end instead of the actual average-- either you don't infect many people because you start coughing and stay home, or you go absolutely hog wild batshit and infect 20 people because you're a dumb rear end in a top hat incapable of putting together cause and effect

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Wow, it was actually easy to find. I was half expecting having to trawl through the C-SPAM thread to find it again.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

Based on those numbers, 90% of infected infect 1.3 other people on average, while the remaining 10% infect 45. If you assume it fits an y=e^ax curve, you'd actually need to get into the 70th percentile before you get to people who are gonna infect at least one other person, which is consistent with the claim that most people do not infect, ending at around 80 infections for the top 1%.

Steve Yun posted:

Why not hold church outdoors? You can still congregate and it’s what, 19x safer?

Victory Position posted:

this has the potential to create a schism of its own

this is way bigger than Vatican II and that's a shitshow that the paleo-Catholics are still complaining about

Relevant Tangent posted:

African bishops are more likely to get their ducks in a row than the Americans. Our bishops are too busy with the kid rape cover-ups.

Boxman posted:

I miss swimming

not enough to risk my health and that of those around me, mind. But its not something easily replaced.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

chlorine i assume but im pretty sure the exercise your lungs get from swimming is greater than the damage chlorine does

George H.W. oval office posted:

Yea looks like its indoor pool specifically and if you are doing it every day for long periods of time like a competitive swimmer. lol @ goons being in that category. go swim have fun.

Gio posted:

she is absolutely lying about her behavior

Dumb Lowtax posted:

It's not the deaths guessing game but it's the next best thing: Postcounts. Holy poo poo, you all post a lot. I somehow don't even rank high enough to show up.

SpaceCadetBob posted:

hasnt the 6’ thing been been found to be completely inadequate? especially indoors?

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

I think it is pretty much a bell curve sort of deal; 6' properly maintained at all times gets you quite far. As does proper hand hygiene. Even better if you manage masks when in public properly.

The main issue is getting people to consistently follow the rules, as long as compliance is low it will do no good at all making them more onerous.