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Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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crazy eyes mustafa posted:

Why don’t they just throw all the bodies and poo poo down the mountain. loving duh

For some reason the mountain climbers have this weird fixation with picking up the trash and carrying it down, why not just roll it all down the hill and make gravity work for you. It’s so simple

gently caress the guys below you, if they didn't want to have a giant snowball full of used oxygen tanks and poopsicles bearing down on them like a bad mario64 moment, they would have been ahead of you.

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Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Leperflesh posted:

We're up to $60 for sherpas. Yes, I'm gonna keep track.

More like 100

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Outrail posted:

What would be the best/worst drugs to take in the deathzone?

LSD?

Meth would lead to record summits and corpsicles on the way down on account of summiting in a wifebeater while listening to trapt on your phone's speaker

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Dirt Road Junglist posted:

I mean, didn't the old mountaineers do a ton of amphetamines while climbing?

Interviewer: How did you become a knight?
Hillary: So this one time I railed speed in nepal... funny story, so there's this mountain, biggest fuckin one in the world...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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BaronVonVaderham posted:

Really glad we nipped that derail about mountains in the bud so we could get back to talking about cave diving.

This thread isn't explicitly everest climbing, or mountain climbing, so much as it's a journal of rich people who took littering to the absolute extreme.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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What's the over/under on someone turning into a corpsicle based covid time capsule that'll come back to haunt us in a few decades?

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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ZombieLenin posted:

He did, it just reminded me that the entire region is low on oxygen needed for honest to gods life saving medicine.

This, I imagine, is going to have to have an impact on the climbing season.

You're assuming oxygen suppliers will ration it out to dying people who need it instead of hedge fund managers who want it. That's bold.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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ZombieLenin posted:

I mean, who could have possibly seen this coming?

quote:

this always has disaster written all over it.

Congratulations on discovering the true meaning of christmas this thread.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Pawn 17 posted:

They should really just build an escalator to the top enclosed in glass with temperature control and plenty of oxygen. Then charge $50k per ride.

Tour guide: If you look to your left, you will see a pile of corpses. Interesting note, those belonged to the crew who built this very escalator! It's a shame they didn't have one they could ride to the top like you do! Our next stop on the tour will be the oxygen tank ocean, a monument to the days when brave hedge fund managers would have to pay brown people to haul their breath for them. Haha, those were the days!

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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PostNouveau posted:

You have to jump at the top. Only the person with the highest vertical can say they have a true summit.

Is first person to dunk on another climber at the summit still available?

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Welp, I'm doing it. I'll be heading up to Everest base camp in April supporting a coworker's summit bid.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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The base camp memorial turd pile can be found down that path, go about 200 feet and make a right at "bunny slippers".

Anyone have an SA flag so I can do the victory pose thing?

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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George H.W. oval office posted:

Are you actually doing support work or is it “supporting” in that you’re there in the area hanging out and could identify the body?

Have fun!

Honestly unsure? I'm more than happy to help haul poo poo but I'm pretty sure there's paid help for that, so mostly just going up to the base camp, staying a night there, getting some pictures and enjoying the stay for a bit, then peacing out before the dangerous stuff?

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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basicblack posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_LGaK3oxIk

From the Pallas Cat's perspective, this must have been their equivalent to an alien abduction.

Bare hands that close to it's angry, adorable face. Anyone have access to alligator poo poo? I have an amazing idea to prank a grad student...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Captain Toasted posted:

Have you tried setting some free diving records? It’s like Everest but in reverse

Less oxygen, too. Makes it more hardcore.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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basicblack posted:

I feel like this thread is on life support. Please don't die thread, I love you too much (and isn't the spring 2023 climbing season just around the corner?).

Here, have a documentary, unique in that the climbers take the approach from the North Col: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZR-QSEYzgA

(dunno if this is technically life support or methadone or what...)

I sure hope to hell not, I get back stateside from my trip to base camp on Apr 30 so in the first few days of May I'll have a story and photodump

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Captain Toasted posted:

Please post pics of you “green boots-ing” at various landmarks

When I was shopping for new hiking boots for the trip, I found a pair I *really* liked, but passed on because they only came in green.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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orange juche posted:

Yeah on Fuji your only enemy is how long can you wait to clamber up some of the slightly steeper parts of the path behind the obasans and stuff, but during the hiking season it's not bad at all unless you try to go from sea level to the summit in a day, you will be quite sore and feeling very O2 starved by the time you get to the summit, 12,000 feet of elevation in 24h is no joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqy0tfMIX8w

Off season is significantly colder though, and you can indeed get in some poo poo, mostly frostbite.

That averages out to 3.3 inches per second during the ascent, that's like 12 hours straight on a stairmaster.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Posting from Kathmandu, I fly to Lukla bright and early tomorrow morning. Updates to come when I'm in internet range.

Apparantly it's Nepalese new years eve, the streets are loving LIT

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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I just got back to the states from my EBC trek. I'll spare you the fawning about how amazing it was and skip straight to the goon-relevant highlights:

I went with a group of 10 people, I left after getting to base camp while 5 ultimately are attempting to take the summit. One person in the group has a wikipedia page for being "the first <nationality> <gender> to <mountaineering feat a> and <mountaineering feat b>". I kid you not. All of the people attempting the summit were doing so for the first time and are mountaineers in their own rights with lists of accomplishments and not Canadian housewives with photoshop. I wish them the best of luck.

The hike itself is grueling. If you're roughly goon-shaped you're going to have a bad time. I genuinely wanted to quit on multiple occasions.

I met a Harvard researcher who was trying to get a good medical baseline for altitude sickness responses in people because apparently science doesn't have one of these yet. He also did an interesting talk on altitude sickness and general Himalayan health stuff including:
  • The Khumbu valley, with its incredibly massive population of stray dogs, has one of the highest rates of rabies in the world
  • Altitude sickness is a spectrum with HACE at the far end. HAPE is a different physiological response
  • Once you adjust for poo poo like "23 year olds think they're god and ascend too fast" altitude sickness susceptibility is not affected by age
  • 1 in 100,000 trekkers will be murdered by a yak
  • The highest prevalence of AMS and HAPE is among porters

I also learned about a wonderful charity that operates two clinics within the region on a full-time basis and an ER in base camp during peak season called the "Himalayan Rescue Association". They provide services to trekkers/climbers and use the money to pay for services to native Nepalese porters and guides with an absolute bare minimum of cost. If a porter needs rest and some medication, or if they need an emergency evacuation to Kathmandu via helicopter for emergency treatment, it's only 50 rupees (approx 38 cents USD) for them, no matter what's required. If you're feeling charitable, I highly recommend looking at this organization because they help as much as possible to take care of the population most heavily negatively impacted by the trade in ego-tourism. If you post your donation in here, I'll pledge to match the first $500 personally. https://www.himalayanrescue.org/

I'm more than happy to expand on anything or answer questions about the trip anyone may have. It's honestly an amazing time and I really suggest that anyone who can do it should.

<edit>Oh, and yak is tasty</edit>

One final note, I did actually register the domain lhotse.cx, and I'll have all the pictures and notes from my journaling up on it as soon as I can get around to compiling it.

Paladine_PSoT fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Apr 26, 2023

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Comrade Koba posted:

Sounds more like justified self-defense than murder to me. :colbert:

Who's doing the self-defense in this situation? It could be either really...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Seattle climber dies at camp2 after suddenly feeling unwell. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/02/asia/us-climber-death-everest-intl/index.html

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:

Part of that trip on which I took that Everest photo posted two weeks back involved three days in Lhasa. Our group, upon arrival, was told to chill in the hotel for the rest of the day because they wanted to make sure we were all okay with altitude. I felt just fine, so decided to explore the neighborhood. Then I made the mistake of bounding up the steps of a pedestrian overpass and it felt like I'd just done a 100-meter dash.

Oh man, that first day for someone who lives at sea level was brutal from the Lukla trek. You go down like 200m through some nice temparate forest, then you cross a bridge and there's a 10 step staircase that absolutely eats your soul.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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AceClown posted:

does it work in reverse? like if you're from a high altitude place and you go on holiday to somewhere sea level do you feel like superman absorbing the red sun's rays for the first time?

It takes staying at altitude for a significant amount of time, but yes you can absolutely naturally dope this way. Effects last a few weeks.

Metabolism, on the other hand, increases at altitude extremely quickly, and dropoff when you return to normal is much slower, even months.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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quote:

A school teacher who aspired to become the first Asian with a pacemaker to scale Mount Everest died while making the attempt.

Suzanne Leopoldina Jesus, a 59-year-old woman from India’s western Maharashtra state, died on Thursday after she climbed 5,800m – a little higher than the base camp of the world’s highest mountain which stands at 8,848m.

Leopoldina Jesus had to be “forcibly” airlifted on Wednesday evening to a hospital from the mountain, said Dendi Sherpa, chairman of expedition organiser Glacier Himalayan Trek.

The woman was advised to abandon her attempt to scale Everest as she was not able to maintain a normal speed during acclimatisation exercises on base camp, said Yuvaraj Khatiwada, director at the Tourism Department of Nepal.

The climber insisted on continuing because she said she already paid a fee to get permission to climb Mt Everest, reported the Press Trust of India (PTI) news agency.

As of today, 9 confirmed deaths and another missing. There was a non-injury icefall collapse 2 days ago that had to be repaired and closed the route for a while, as well...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Mr. Funny Pants posted:

I know I've suggested it before and the Sherpas would lose their poo poo, but I'm still waiting for a couple of assholes to be the first to gently caress on the summit. Hell, I'm surprised Youporn or someone hasn't sponsored it.

When I finally got internet access on my phone in one of the towns, freaking Tinder started lighting up. Based on the distance, there was a party going on at base camp.

I'd guess it will happen sooner than later, and it will open a whole slew of new records. First summit penetration, first summit orgasm, first summit orgasm without supplemental oxygen, first summit female orgasm, first child conceived at the summit without supplemental oxygen, first winter summit gangbang with greater than 7 participants...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Mr. Funny Pants posted:

Imagine the somber PBS documentary about all the climbers indifferently walking past a couple begging for help because they've become frozen together mid-screw in an attempt to become the first to pull off reverse-cowgirl in the death zone.

"Get permafrozen banging on the summit of Everest so people have to deal with that when they summit" is probably a niche enough kink, but if you have that one I'm going to guess the cost of a 50k permit won't stop you...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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dr_rat posted:

So looks like there is wi-fi at base camp and 3g cell network in areas going up to it:

https://www.holymountaintreks.com/blog/mobile-phone-reception-on-everest-base-camp/

The cell network is poo poo, but a lot of teahouses sell one of two networks called "everestlink" which is data capped and some other thing I can't remember that's 24hour. It works all the way up through Gorak Shep, but in base camp itself there's a few localized hotspots that run starlink or something, I think they may be managed by the individual trek companies, not sure if that one's wide area like the other two.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Magic Underwear posted:

He's at Namche, 11,290ft. So he's struggling with over a vertical mile left to climb.

The climb up to namche is loving brutal, especially since it's day 2 at altitude and the lower you call home the worse off you are. The vertical climb that day is equal to taking the stairs at the eiffel tower 5 times.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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HAM ON THE BONE posted:

The stream is back up and they’re bout to hit the trail after breakfast!


For a second there I legit thought this was two pictures and dude dragged a playstation up there

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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PurpleXVI posted:

We had a youtuber die climbing a mountain in Italy a few years ago, apparently because he literally stepped backwards off a cliff face while trying to record himself, of course with no fall-arresting equipment of any kind.

Death by getting pushed off the trail down a cliff by a yak is still on the menu, ladies and gentlemen

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Kamrat posted:

I always seem to catch these guys when they're resting, I thought I saw some actual hiking there for a second and 5 minutes later they're at a rest-stop restaurant, while watching joels stream it looked like poseidon was really shuffling forward having a hard time keeping balance.

He's really the worst off in the group, joel seems unbothered by everything even dancing at the rest-stop and deepak seems fine too but poseidon is just laying down at the rest-stop.

Edit: Now he's saying he's very dizzy while laying down, I think he's feeling the effects of the climb for real, he really shouldn't push himself further and take a long rest, this isn't good

Edit 2: Seems like he's regretting pushing himself too hard, he's feeling ill, drat, this is pretty sad, he needs to go down after eating and drinking a lot, continuing up is dumb and I hope he makes the right call.

The day after resting at Namche is almost as hard as the day getting there. It's gonna be lots of resting from here on out. The body just can't get enough oxygen to sustain itself with regular breathing. He'll probably start doing better after the second rest day. The climb up from Pheriche to the Everest Memorial has rest stops every like half-k with stone benches and places for porters to drop the gear for a moment.'

Lying down? gently caress I'm 41, 265lbs and 5'11" and have been working from home with basically no exercise for the last 6 years and I never did that.


Edit: The company I went with did its summit push... Freaking crazy tense waiting on the news. https://madisonmountaineering.com/dispatches/

Paladine_PSoT fucked around with this message at 08:51 on May 24, 2023

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Kamrat posted:

I'm not saying it's not okay to lie down, but he keeps saying "what's wrong with me" "I'm not doing good" "I'm dizzy", All I'm saying that he needs time to recover and I hope he listens to his body instead of pushing himself too much like he's been doing. The climb is hell of the body if you're not careful, he hasn't given himself enough time to acclimatize

Altitude sickness feels like a hangover. HACE feels like being drunk.

I wonder if he took Diamox along on the journey...

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Kamrat posted:

Yeah now he's not eating because it makes him gag, I'm no everest expert so I don't know what he should do in this situation, going up to the next hotel might be better than going down since it's technically closer but still up, just hope he does what is best and listens to his sherpa, he's probably seen the symptoms before and knows what to do.

I don't know if hes taking altitude pills or not, since he was not prepared for this trip at all I'm guessing no

If you are feeling sick, ALWAYS GO DOWN

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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fuctifino posted:

"My fingers are numb"
"My chest hurts"
"Feels weird"

Fingers numb or tingly is an early sympton of altitude sickness. It's also a side effect of Diamox, which is used as a preventative medicine. Altitude makes the blood more acidic as co2 builds up and that triggers production of red blood cells, Diamox mimics this effect. It also is a diuretic, so you lose more fluids and it helps reduce edema.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:

When I climbed Fuji it was uncomfortably cold, windy, and with sideways rain. There was only a handful of people on the mountain that day because of it. The old man running the store at the top said it's best to head down as soon as possible. And when the old man on the top of Mt. Fuji gives you advice, you listen.

For the first hour on my way down my hands had that feeling like when a limb falls asleep and is coming back with that tingle. I thought it was just the cold, but maybe it was altitude as well.

I'm telling ya, the talk the researcher dude gave on altitude sickness was freaking amazing. He also mentioned the loving EVEREST MARATHON that goes from base camp to Namche, with an altitude loss of 7,600'. The winner in 2022 was 3h51m. The fastest foreigner was 19th place at 5h51m. It looks like there were 144 participants, 2 did not finish. 3 of them took over 24 hours, I hope they stopped to sleep.

Paladine_PSoT fucked around with this message at 11:57 on May 25, 2023

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Aphex- posted:

The day I trekked up Thorong La pass, every step I took felt like I'd just sprinted for 2 minutes. It's so weird though because after 30 seconds of rest I felt totally normal again. Rinse and repeat for 3 hours. That was at 5,416m (17,769 ft). When I finished for the day down in Muktinath at 3,762 m (12,343 ft) I felt like I could drink the air.

I heli'd out, then single handedly built three miles of rail from the airport to the yak and yeti during the night.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Beastie posted:

How many calories should he be consuming each day at this altitude and doing this hike?

How can he possibly think he can hold his movement for so long?

Metabolic rate is about 25% higher at that altitude so caloric needs will rise appropriately. That, combined with the constant exercise, usually results in a lot of weight loss for trekkers. You can totally do it on reserves, even if you're skinny. You'd need to be actively starving for 2 weeks in the Himalayas to be dangerous because of it.

I'm more interested by his lack of shits. Pretty much anything up there is going to gently caress with you, even the pizza.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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fuctifino posted:

Icepiss is currently suffering from extreme headaches due to altitude sickness, and is currently sleeping it off.


fuctifino posted:

he's was already having heavy nosebleeds before today's trek. This was from just one blow of each nostril.



He's coughing a lot too

Okay all jokes aside, this isn't altitude sickness, it's progressed to Acute Mountain Sickness. Dude needs to loving descend and go to a hospital. Now.

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Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

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Zefiel posted:

The heli pilot has one of those little card readers to charge a debit or credit card with their cell phone

Nah they take you down to Lukla and process payment at Hillary-Tenzig airport.

fuctifino posted:

I guess that's already paid for. He was expecting there to be cashpoint machines all the way to base camp to pay for day to day expenses.

Highest ATM is in Namche.

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