Cowboy Bebop: The Real Folk Blues

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Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

nine-gear crow posted:

Gonna make a bold prediction and say that this is gonna be Netflix's sci-fi Witcher: a show that everyone pre-emptively hated that turns out to be actually Pretty Good because it knew exactly what it wanted to be and how to be it and stuck the landing in that zone perfectly and everyone just memory holes all the poo poo they spent like a year and half talking about it like they did The Witcher.

We'll see (you out there, space cowboy).

John Cho is no Henry Cavill though

# ¿ Oct 27, 2021 21:46

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 01:05

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Spike being 27 always struck me as an anime age and John Cho doesn't look anywhere near his actual age, however I can't help but see him as old regardless because he played a father with a college-age daughter in Searching a few years ago (which is great)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ro9ebQxEOY

# ¿ Oct 28, 2021 05:09

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

New Trailer, looks better than the others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ueRbFQkEk

# ¿ Oct 29, 2021 16:15

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Arc Hammer posted:

My hope is that they use their hour long episodes to give the main cast more stuff to do. I'd rather they didn't use the extra minutes to keep cutting away to whatever pointless poo poo Vicious is doing so he's a more present villain.

Reports are that they've added Vicious to the first episode that adapts the anime first episode, he's part of the syndicate team sent after Asimov, so I'm guessing he'll be in every episode the syndicate is involved in.

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 31, 2021

# ¿ Oct 30, 2021 21:59

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE60dIn6gCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcOguR_PdrY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWd9GhoRGy4

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Nov 12, 2021

# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 07:43

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https://twitter.com/tglaraton/status/1459241900779745285

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Assepoester fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 12, 2021

# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 22:56

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ONE YEAR LATER posted:

I dont' understand, can you post a youtube link instead?

I will once some video reviews are up

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Maybe make the same exact post in the other Cowboy Bebop thread too, that would be even more helpful.

Done!

# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 23:07

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szmSWh7-Fz0

https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1460230603266088972
"This new show is the product of a culture that exhumes yesterday because it�s run out of fresh ideas for tomorrow, and its vision of the future is so sterile and uninspired that it often feels like nothing more than a cheap vision of the waking life that everyone in Watanabe�s original was trying so hard to sleep off."

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Nov 15, 2021

# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 14:25

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Omon Ra posted:

It isn't anyone's responsiblity to educate you, you transphobic bigot! How dare you have a nuanced interpretation of this? Yikes.

Omon Ra posted:

Goons will never stop bitterly muttering about how crypto is worthless, even as it's literally worth a trillion dollars.

I see

# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 15:44

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

this is violence

https://twitter.com/midfalutin/status/1460286013687877648

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Nov 16, 2021

# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 10:57

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Now I'm going to be mad when those specific bad lines aren't in there

# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 10:25

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

At least we're getting new songs out of it yeah

https://twitter.com/mangiotto/status/1460454095827787782

https://twitter.com/bebopnetflix/status/1460772346982064130
:thunk:

# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 00:02

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Jerkface posted:

Ein is in the show, Ed is definitely not but the show accounts keep being like "Ed fans mayhaps will have a nice SURPRISE in this show ; ) " which means that they definitely did something stupid and it is 100% not going to be the Ed from the anime. Maybe a hologram of Ed will appear briefly in the background or they will rename a computer "3D" and it will say something funny and then Spike will say "Computers, just ain't my thing..."

# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 00:50

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Faye scene looks like a network sitcom.

Spike and Jet scene looks like a CW show.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 19:38

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https://twitter.com/KaelanRamos/status/1461411887074193416

Mu Zeta posted:

It's not fair to judge a show based on some 1 minute clip but it is concerning that they decided to share those specific clips and not anything else. Still holding out hope since the two trailers were solid.

Here have some more brilliant dialogue
https://twitter.com/KaelanRamos/status/1461452588428234755

# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 03:40

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The Lobotomy Kid posted:

You are a bad person if you like this

what if you like bad movies and tv shows

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 00:54

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The Lobotomy Kid posted:

You need to tell the difference between Mexican cola and regular

Mexican cola has cane sugar

Koirhor posted:

Eewwwww a dub my ears

Dub's good

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 02:52

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Mulva posted:

This didn't need to exist, but it does, so if you can find some fun with it I'm glad for others that watch it. I did find it amusing how I didn't think any choice they made was good. Like any of it. Literally every decision they made was wrong.

The casting and not replacing all the music with CW-tier music I guess?

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 03:34

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

That and the complaints over the dull brown colour palette were dumb - they only did that for Tijuana, and it kinda made sense there. There's a larger variety of colour palettes in the show.

https://twitter.com/Mechasquirrel84/status/1458198690716323841

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 09:47

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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

you do realise Tijuana in bebop is a lovely asteroid and not in Mexico right

well yes because real mexico in bebop is land of a million meteorite craters, but in this case it's space mexico just like how mars city is space new york

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 12:54

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Koirhor posted:

The assumption of course is that the director and producers actually give a poo poo about the end result.

Usually you would have two scenarios

1. Cast people who look like the characters they are depicting, they accomplished this with John Cho

2. People who acted well for the part but need to get their rear end in the loving gym, hire them a trainer and nutritionist.

Instead we got Beer Gut Jet and Thicc Faye.

Not sure why you're comparing about Semi-Thicc Faye when no one but fashion models or walking eating disorders could possibly look like a boneless anime waif

Endorph posted:

no not really, the original japanese dialog has some coarseness but it never really goes hard in on the japanese equivalent of heavy swearing even though it aired at like 1 in the morning and other tv anime with similar timeslots got away with much harsher language. and the original dub aired on adult swim and was one of the more pg-13 shows on it even at the time.

Yep and the original few adult swim airings also removed most of the blood, replaced "poo poo" and "goddamn" with "drat", removing missiles hitting buildings, removing the teddy bomber episode entirely, etc.

And as I understand it originally in Japan it didn't get a late night "only adults are up show whatever you want" timeslot but only half the episodes aired there and it eventually did get a slot on a premium satellite channel where they could show whatever they wanted. Even so, the original unedited show just wasn't one where anyone would ever shout something like "welcome to the ouch motherfuckers!"

# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 00:36

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https://twitter.com/Mengo329/status/1461928498730356736

# ¿ Nov 21, 2021 01:42

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Martman posted:

I'll be honest, I knew the (((they))) thing was associated heavily with specifically anti-Jewish stuff, but I also thought it had come to be used more generally by conspiracy nuts talking about our "media overlords" in very vague ways. My point was to make fun of the conspiracy theory mindset about the people who control our media, not to accuse Woozy of antisemitism.

Like, "this is exactly how they wanted us to react... And they're getting better at it over time!!" is Alex Jones tier, not in bigotry but in dumbness

No it's absolutely an anti-semitic dog whistle and nothing more, it's not a general conspiracy thing.

It's only used by anti-semites and people making fun of anti-semites.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2021 12:50

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JollyBoyJohn posted:

I watched cowboy bebop the way my partner watches tv shows, uncaring to others views, without reading Internet comments or hyperbole and just watching a show and relaxing it without trying to examine everything on some big brained critical level. If she doesn't like a show she'll switch if off and not think about it again rather than angry post on the Internet and no matter how much i make fun of shows like heartland or Chicago Med she doesn't give a poo poo because its something she looks forward to. Its a better system than being mad about tv shows on the Internet, that's for sure

# ¿ Nov 23, 2021 12:17

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Cowboy Bebop: I don't get where the hate is coming from? No, the haters were right.
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1462097384935206926
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1462097933864734726
https://twitter.com/RealAlexRubi/status/1462787569394016260

# ¿ Nov 29, 2021 02:29

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Jerusalem posted:

As somebody who hasn't seen the original though, please Jesus tell me that the little kid who shows up at the very end of the last episode is NOT going to be a regular recurring character because Jesus Christ I could feel my soul trying to cringe its way out of my body watching them on-screen

They're a big part of the original where they are even more insane/cartoony but have fun interactions with the cast who are comparatively down to earth

https://i.imgur.com/WFM6Qzd.mp4

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Nov 29, 2021

# ¿ Nov 29, 2021 11:49

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Jet Black was always black, even when he was just a Jigen knockoff :colbert:

Also being dubbed into many languages means you get critics in many languages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMe9SVBN-Og

# ¿ Dec 2, 2021 01:29

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Blue Raider posted:

Cancelled. Oh well

Still laughing that they had the same amount of runtime as the anime and covered only half the material expecting to get a second season and welp

# ¿ Dec 10, 2021 00:31

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

For it to get cancelled so fast you wonder if it got less viewership than the anime, which they don't even have exclusive rights to?

# ¿ Dec 10, 2021 00:40

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NowonSA posted:

I've said before that eventually someone's going to do a western live-action adaptation of an anime and hit it out of the goddamn park

They already did.

It was a huge flop. Just like LA Bebop.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2021 04:46

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Speed Racer and Spiderverse exist to ruin the compression algorithms of streaming services and make you buy the blu-ray instead

https://i.imgur.com/EXFUiGM.mp4

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Dec 10, 2021

# ¿ Dec 10, 2021 05:15

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Fucker posted:

lmfaaaaaaaaao
cant even begin to comprehend how rotten your brain must be from the tireless epic culture war to think like this.
guess you were the one who got "chaos dunked" in the end

No they're right but it's not like a "high water mark" for lovely nerds means anything. Remember when they were going on and on about she ra and he man?

Xibanya posted:

Anyone who thought live action Faye was fat needs a loving reality check.

We're talking about men who only look at animated drawings to replace women

# ¿ Dec 10, 2021 21:15

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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

i guess if your brain is capable of reconciling a seething hatred of 'nerds' with the use of a term like 'chaos dunk' then yeah i can kind of see how you might think this show is good

Barkley was a goon project that made fun of the nerdy anime/jrpg crowd (in the guise of a jrpg itself) and thus the good kind of super nerdiness

JOSEPH SAMOAN posted:

the only loss whatsoever about this being cancelled is that we will never get to see just how badly they would gently caress up The Real Folks Blues pt 1 and 2. the season leading up to it where spike judo fights the immortal harmonica kid and faye calls a reimagined redditor PUA cowboy andy a fuckwaffle would be good too, but i honest to god want to see how they wrote themselves out of the corner they pointlessly worked their way into with vicious and julia

Probably just bring in Vincent as the new super terrorist mastermind with brain butterflies season long big bad villain and just ignore all the syndicate naff as much as possible

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Dec 11, 2021

# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 06:50

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# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 08:22

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Pedro De Heredia posted:

That's definitely not the 'main issue.'

The main issue is remaking Cowboy Bebop in live action

But given that they remade Cowboy Bebop in live action, you can make a good case that this issue with the adaptation undergirds all others, even if it's not immediately apparent. And she does.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 09:18

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Pedro De Heredia posted:

Making that case (or any good case about anything, really) would require a lot more than a tweet thread.

No, a tweet thread is exactly what the LA Bebop adaptation deserves

tokin opposition posted:

bebop was a c-spam property adapted by d&d readers

smdh

OG Bebop was hardly c-spam, it just thought enough about its setting to give it the kind of texture it needed to adapt the genres it intended to adapt. The cops are rife with corruption just as they are in every noir movie and hong kong heroic bloodshed movie they are pulling from. The wealthy and powerful are not to be trusted. Loyalty towards organizations earns you nothing in the end. And nowhere in the entire series do we see a white picket fence house in the Sydney suburbs. The adaptation made the conscious choice to change all of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gNCvrcztbQ&t=2254s

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 11, 2021

# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 16:38

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https://twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1469421249327730692

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Dec 14, 2021

# ¿ Dec 14, 2021 04:22

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd2i666sCOU

Professor Wayne posted:

Was the Monkey Punchy rum a strained Lupin III reference?

Arc Hammer posted:

It has to be. Hell in the original show during the Green Bird montage Spike pills a Lupin grin.

The United States posted:

Bebop isn't a carbon copy of Lupin as in "these characters are just Lupin characters renamed" but it's a riff on Lupin, such that it really could not exist without Lupin having come first. Spike's not exactly Lupin and Jet's not exactly Jigen and Faye's not exactly Fujiko and Vicious isn't exactly (early, antagonistic) Goemon, and there's no Zenigata because the gang is on the side of the law, but the whole general vibe and how it is able to effortlessly include both charming, irreverent slapstick comedy and hardcore ultraviolent action thriller and have both feel like the same show is extremely Lupin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaOSyRitx_Y

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Dec 17, 2021

# ¿ Dec 17, 2021 04:52

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christmas boots posted:

That's it! The adaptation should have been mostly faithful except that there is a Zenigata figure. And then at the end of the series Spike is saved by the timely arrival of Pops.

Secretly turn the LA Cowboy Bebop adaptation into an adaption of Space Lupin VIII instead!