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MrL_JaKiri posted:Computer, make an outfit capable of disgusting Jake Sisko Easy, the replicator materializes an Angel One outfit for Quark.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2023 18:44 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:47 |
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Soul Dentist posted:She had a visceral dislike of both Janeway and Paris, so eh. She loves the character of Picard, so she's excited for it no matter what, and I'm excited for SNW after. I'm watching Enterprise for the first time with her and was also impressed with the repair station episode It's a shame that the TNG character of Picard is absent from the series of the same name.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 17:03 |
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davidspackage posted:If I recall right, his character was gay!* IIRC his character's name was Lt. Hawk. Not the sort of name you should have wasted on a redshirt.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 14:42 |
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Beeftweeter posted:technically it's mirror t'pol but she does trick tucker into thinking they banged with a mind meld Imma gonna give the mirror universe episodes a pass on going over the top of good taste and decorum because they're mirror universe episodes (and they didn't do one a season like DS9 to make the concept stale)
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2023 17:15 |
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MuddyFunster posted:Another thing I should have pointed out; the ample Gates McFadden screen time gave me a chance to finally register just how oddly she moves about the place. Forearms up, elbows at her side, hips shimmying and swaying about like she's about to break into a tap dance number. I know she's got a background in dance, but I never really thought about it before. It reminds me of Christopher Walken when he's not blatantly dancing, just generally moving around in scenes. Do remember the casting notes were for the doctor to have the shimmy of "a striptease artist," so maybe McFadden was just sticking to the original intent of the character. I like "Remember Me" a lot, but feel they gave away the mystery too early in the episode with the scenes in the "normal" universe. Tension could've been heightened further, I think. Plus it's the return of pedo-van Traveler.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2023 17:36 |
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All y’all tripping. Squire of Gothos rocked. Just probably 10 minutes too long. To compare it to Charlie X is a crime.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2023 18:44 |
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MuddyFunster posted:I cannot imagine the sweaty fury between parts 1 and 2 of Best of Both Worlds, holy poo poo I would have exploded. He looks at me, really pissed, and said, "I've been waiting six months to find out how that turns out, and here you are stumbling into it by accident!" I don't remember for sure but I'm pretty certain the TV station (the entities that used to control what you could watch at any given time on one of four different channels) played part 1 right before part 2, because I wouldn't have been as blown away by the show if it had been the recap plus part 2.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2023 14:55 |
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Tom Tucker posted:Was just thinking about how awesome Remember Me was in TNG. The slow burn of the mystery really created an amazing atmosphere and the tone of desperation and loneliness it captured was awesome. But randomly thought about it today because I loved when Crusher goes to the rest of the crew and is like "I know I sound crazy but this impossible thing is happening" and the whole crew is like "....ok" and despite it being nuts takes her 100% seriously and immediately start brainstorming possibilities. It really drives home the trust amidst insane stuff a starfleet crew must go through. The one problem with the episode is that Wesley &/or the Traveller show up halfway through, letting you know there's parallel universe shenanigans going on too early. Or at least that's how I remember it.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 04:31 |
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A.o.D. posted:The Vorta have a terrible odor, not inherently but because they can't smell when they are funky. They can, however, hear when others start to complain. And Nausicaans have no noses! "Well, how do they smell?" Terrible!
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 15:36 |
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MuddyFunster posted:The Perfect Mate is an interesting, delicate little story that keeps things very low key and conversational without getting too trashy with the subject matter...Man, this show really knows how to twist the knife sometimes. The only thing that partially redeems the episode is the pathos of her morning after with Picard. And the episode adds on a couple of other scenes after that (when the betrothed comes in, I n the transporter room), diluting the effect, instead of just leaving Picard even more alone than he was before, and Kamala (I think that was her name) walking out to an unfulfilled life driven by duty.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2023 01:58 |
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zoux posted:I'm going to submit that the Battle of Khitomer sequence in TUC has the highest concentration of badass moments in any Trek property. Everything except "fly her apart then" -- found because I remembered Sulu's "target" quote as being a little clumsier; glad I was wrong: https://youtu.be/fg58hVEY5Og?si=qqWU2z9eO7i5ZL1V A tight bit of filmmaking, with the tension heightening as the sniper rifle's being assembled in cutaways. Vaguely related: I've always liked TUC more than TWOK (or any of the others), but for my money the best shot in any Trek movie comes from TWOK. Khan's "The override...Where's the damned override?" as the camera swings over the myriad, unlabeled buttons of the helm station in a desperate swoop back and forth. Both funny and tense, conveying exactly his frustration and panic. It's a nothing shot, only on screen for about 2 seconds, but it stuck with me since the first time I saw it back in the theatre. (Probably because I wondered how they kept all those identical buttons straight when flying the ship.) Eta: I read somewhere that Shatner wanted Plummer in this movie in part because he got his big break as Plummer's understudy in Henry V. Plummer took ill, Shatner took the character in a completely different direction than Plummer had, and got raves for it, which jumpstarted his career. Don't know if it's true. Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Sep 27, 2023 22:02 |
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At warp 10, the impossible in evolution happens: Harry Kim becomes a Lieutenant JG.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2023 22:27 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:Star Trek V might be better than Star Trek III. Counterpoint: the fan dance They're pretty close. My hot take is VI > II > IV (don't actually know if that's a hot take)
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2023 15:23 |
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Pwnstar posted:Potential crew member for my dream Star Trek tv series: A Romulan member of Starfleet who expresses their ingrained desire to be plotting/scheming/betraying through childish pranks. Syncing the transporters with opening of a door to materialise a bucket of water over the Captain's head when they enter their quarters etc. Doing this to Captain Pike's magnificent mane would rightfully get you exiled to the dilithium mines of Rura Penthe
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2023 18:42 |
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Don’t underestimate a really good root beer. I’ve had some made by microbreweries that are amazing.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2023 15:11 |
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disaster pastor posted:I could be wrong, but I feel like there are more episodes where the character in question is like "I'm imagining things" or "I'm losing it" or "something's wrong with me" while the others are still saying "no, we're not prepared to say that, there might still be a thing and we're going to keep trying to find it." I mean, when loving Reg Barclay shows up and insists he sees worms in the matter stream during transport, the outcome isn't "Shut up, Broccoli" or "Get some sleep, Reg;" rather, Geordi pulls the entire system apart looking for what's going on.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 16:11 |
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zoux posted:Nominating "I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him" as the hardest loving line in any trek series Quote the whole thing! "I yield. I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill him, and that no longer holds my interest." Worf jobs for the whole sequence of being captured but it's for a point other than showing how badass the threat of the week is. A welcome change of pace.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 01:41 |
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A.o.D. posted:Jobs? He wins every fight except for the last one, and that's likely only because the Jem Hadar were constantly throwing him into the ring. If he'd lost before that, he wouldn't have lasted to the boss fight. I stand corrected. I only remember him getting the poo poo beat out of him every time but forgot that he had to win to get there.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 01:46 |
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zoux posted:That double handed fist strike is the ultimate techinique. This is flying jump kick erasure. On BBC America right now: "Remember Me." A good episode that could have been a TNG GOAT ep, if not for (1) ruining the mystery a bit more than halfway through and (2) the appearance of hyperpedo The Traveler. As someone pointed out last time this ep was brought up, it goes a long way toward worldbuilding that weird poo poo goes on aboard the Enterprise all the time, and they go through tons and tons of hoops to probe Beverly's suspicions before they start saying she's possibly crazy* -- even when the crew is down to 230 and she steps in it publicly on the bridge, Picard is like, "I have no choice but to believe you" and then orders the return of the ship to Starbase 133. * Worf is as usual correct from the start -- "if he came aboard, where are his possessions?" -- but of course he is ignored/cut off a couple of times during the episode. He's just the guy in charge of evaluating threats to the ship and reacting appropriately; why listen to him? Edit: 3rd reason -- Deanna's back to the mauve cameltoe onesie after wearing a uniform in the prior ep (with the human child raised by militaristic aliens). Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 25, 2024 |
# ¿ Jan 25, 2024 21:44 |
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Taear posted:No sorry this is insanity This is Tuvok erasure, though the credit for the character is to the actor and not the writers (most of the time). As one of the ENT defenders in the thread, I reluctantly have to agree that when VOY is firing on all cylinders, it can be better than ENT. But it's such a rare occasion that VOY can get everything pointed toward a great ep that ENT wins by a significant margin on the average episode. ENT also stretches toward seriality, while VOY stubbornly hit the reset button at most every opportunity.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 03:09 |
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Can you imagine being Ben having to tell Troi in the middle of 10-Forward that he had to send back her Death by Chocolate because she's over her nutritional limits for the month? Rather be one of the three redshirts accompanying Kirk, Spock, & McCoy down to the Planet of Acid-Based Explosive Rocks that Blow Up if You Look Funny at Them.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 19:24 |
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 19:40 |
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davidspackage posted:Be great if that happened and Troi just stares at him, and then he starts convulsing and falls on the floor with blood coming out of his eyes because it just turns out Betazoids can do that. Followed by Worf: "Captain, I recommend we confine Counselor Troi to quarters, if not the brig. She was the only member of the ship's complement in 10-Forward at the time with psychic powers, and waiter Ben had just delivered bad news to her." Picard: "I value your input, Mr. Worf, but I am not going to imprison a member of my command crew based on supposition and hearsay." Worf: *Throws hands in air, slams PADD on table* "Why do you even have a loving security chief, sir?" Picard: "That'll be all, Mr. Worf." *Turns to replicator as Worf storms out* "Tea, Earl Grey...extra hot." *Muses to self that no one has figured out that 'hot' and its modifiers tell the replicator how much brandy to add to the cup*
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 20:10 |
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Arivia posted:It’s worth remembering that the costume design for the original series and the next generation (at least the first few seasons) of Star Trek were done by an incredibly influential, super acclaimed fashion designer, William Ware Theiss*. That bit about the inflatable tanks -- were those the decoys in England, or the DD amphibious tanks (which had an inflatable bladder?) I couldn't find anything with some quick googling/Memory Alpha-ing. Either way, it's cool -- another TOS Trek guy affiliated with victory at D-Day (cf. Doohan, James). Went looking for the exact quote and found it on Memory Alpha: quote:His female garment style can be summed up in the "Theiss Theory of Titillation"...which stated "the degree to which a costume is considered sexy is directly dependent upon how accident-prone it appears to be." eta.1: So much for the D-Day connection. eta.2: The season 1-2 TNG costumes -- looking at the comic pages that were posted, they looked really good, but they were on inhuman physiology and without concern for practicalities. I wonder if it was a case of, "The sketches look great, let's run with those," and it being too late to circle into anything else once the first few were done and trialed. Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 3, 2024 |
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disaster pastor posted:It wasn't back to back, it was late S2 and early S3, about nine months apart. They wanted Jessica Walter, actually, for "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" but couldn't make it work, so grabbed Muldaur again because the director knew her from her previous episode. How much could a protective visor cost, Michael? 10 quatloos?
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2024 23:48 |
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dr_rat posted:It helps you forget that you just saw what remained of your co worker after the transporter accident. Excuse me, sir, it was proven conclusively by the transporter engineering team that was a freak accident and in no way the Chief's fault, and there's no one on the ship who can prove otherwise. Now if you'll excuse me, the Chief has a vintage bottle of Jameson's he's opening in his quarters for a little get together. What's that? Umm, no sir, I'm afraid it's a little crowded and there's no room for anyone else besides the engineering team. Oh, apropos of nothing, I've heard you have an away mission coming up. Before you go, I would really appreciate it if you could authorize some additional time for me in the Holodeck for...let's call it training. I'd hate for the doubts you voiced that I just happen to capture with my tricorder to get around before your important trip off the ship, if you know what I mean, sir. Might be bad...for morale, of course. That's all I meant, sir. I hope we understand each other. I'd hate for there to be a breakdown...in communications between us.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2024 17:50 |
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Tighclops posted:Miles O'Brien is climbing the mountain; Gilmore is waiting for the rope to drop down
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 16:43 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Piloting the ship seems like an important job to have a named character on the bridge doing, even though it's usually done by more junior officers. His job gets taken up by random extras and Wesley. I think most Trek shows have pilot characters, like Chekov and Mayweather. Data was the Operations Officer. The story goes that he needed to be in a gold uniform for his makeup to work best, so instead of making him the science officer (blue), they created this catchall position that ran ship's systems -- including secondary control over helm and navigation (with primary in the right BarcaLounger) -- which would be an gold uniform on analogy with engineering and security -- and kludged it all that way to make it make sense.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 18:26 |
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MikeJF posted:Helmsman was always a bit tricky, as the 90s trek shows found out, because they don't really have an established role to play in figuring out most plot. And when helm skills are critical in TNG, the Captain will say, "gently caress you, I'mma going to pilot the shuttle through the dark matter field; eat my wake, suckas.*" * May not be a direct quote from Captain Picard in that episode.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 20:03 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Enlisted crewmembers, I have no idea. Gold and blue shirts yeah, they obviously work in those areas. I'm not sure what a red-shirted enlisted crewmember would do but obviously we've seen them around. Admin, maybe? Supporting your line officer thesis is the fact that all the cadets wear red -- they're theoretically unlimited coming out of the academy, but some will go to science and others will gravitate toward engineering and yet more will suffer CTE repeatedly and then volunteer for security (which is admittedly a safer career path in the TNG era than the TOS era).
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 21:01 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:The contingent of soldiers who are there to remind us to support the troops are the literal worst edition to Trek and that includes all of Picard. Was going to make a joke about how their redeeming feature was the MACO officer and Reed being the first on-screen same-sex couple in Trek, but that might make someone actually want to watch an episode featuring Reed, and I can't have that on my head.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2024 01:26 |
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Atlas Hugged posted:Season 3's thesis seems to be "it's ok to commit crimes against humanity if 9/11".
Archer grows into Federation values during S3. He may still be sort of an rear end, but it's a whole season of him growing from what might be an early 21st Century human to a man of tomorrow. I'll go so far as to say that S3 as a whole is (barely) a good season of Trek, certainly better than most of Voyager, even before adding NuTrek to the average to drag it down. It's not perfect -- far from to -- but it has to be viewed in its entirety and understood as a character arc, not just a story arc. And this is just talking about Archer; it's not even getting into the other characters, who can be delightful on occasion (admit it, you love Trip, it's OK, he's engineered that way, like a poodle or something), or into the start of Trek serialization, for which we had been crying out for nigh on years.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2024 17:35 |
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edit: ^^^ That's a completely fair point. Again, the problem of having to fill a whole season with this story arc. If the NX-01 crew had found their better angels sooner, could they have made 26 or however many episodes work? Maybe a couple of eps dealing with their long-lasting impacts on the Xindi sector (the name of the expanse is slipping my mind right now)? Retooling Xindi society? Finding those guys they stole from? I don't know. Railing Kill posted:ENT S3 is better than all but the best of VOY. Maybe I should try watching it again. Archer's petulance and the season being 4-6 episodes too long stick most in my mind. I remember thinking, "give the angry post-9/11 petulance to Trip! He has a more specific reason for it, and his actor is better at it!" I also remember at least a few episodes that are like, why are we doing this? That season should have been 16 eps if they weren't in the obligatory ~24 episode season model of network TV at the time. There are parts of S3 that are straight-up garbage, I won't deny that (the recently-referenced piracy that's never addressed again is a big contender; huge dangling plot line and moral thread), but I think S3 suffers unfairly by comparison to S4 (which is, true, superior in so many ways) and from meming ("24 in space!") & oversimplification. It's been close to a decade since I watched Enterprise front-to-back. Maybe I'll put it in queue. Have to find a watchlist for S1 & S2 though; even I won't try to defend those as a whole. Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Mar 6, 2024 |
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I'm a big Spectre of the Gun defender (but I'm a big ENT defender, so take that as you will). There's something wonderful about the episode set being like that of a school play, so minimalist and bare, that lets us know this is all an adventure of the mind more surely than a swirling CGI montage today would. Has: * Crew placed in no-win situation by incredibly advanced beings for their own education /amusement (can't remember which) * Great Chekov scream * Wit and cleverness among the crew to make the gas grenades -- to no avail! * Spock mind melding * Captain Kirk flying jump kicking a fool * The episode ending on a Chekovism -- "The only thing real for him was the woman, so he was never in danger" It's more a feeling than an episode. 8/10.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 16:52 |
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Squizzle posted:for tng, you start someone off using the Enterprise Ds: darmok, data's day, drumhead, disaster. introduces all of the main cast, their roles on the ship and in the narrative dynamic, and gives four varied types of trek story. none of them are the Best TNG, so you arent introducing someone and then saying “and everything else is downhill from here!!” but they are all good trek This is quite possibly a good post. But part of me asks, "Why not throw a real banger in there to keep interest up?" Show what this Trek thing can do. To that end, I would add Q Who early (though not first; maybe Data's Day?) as an introduction to Q and the Borg (and provide an excuse to skip the pilot) as well as provide a real "WTF?/Did that just happen?" factor.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 17:16 |
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Zaroff posted:Probably The Enterprise Incident. I always forget that's a 3rd season ep, as well as Day of the Dove, which is another I'd consider.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 17:18 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I would honestly rate V above all the TNG and JJTrek movies, including First Contact (which is my pick for the best of the TNG lot). But if I were showing these movies to someone trying to get a feel for TOS, I'd probably stick with 2, 4, and maybe 3 if they were up to it. If the subject is of a certain age (or I suppose a student of the right period of history), 6 should definitely be on the list, probably replacing 4. But it just won't land the same way for kids these days. I prefer 6 to 2, but I can also see how without its allegorical strength it loses some of its punch. But I'd say it's more of a Trek movie than 2: making galactic friends even through a history of strife and conflict; fighting to change the minds that can be changed and consigning the obsolete rearguard to history. Sure, it's essentially done at phaser-point -- at least making the principals listen to the truth is -- but so was disarming the intolerable situation in A Taste of Armeggedon, for example. edit: Big Mean Jerk posted:I think V is maybe two choices/events away from being way better remembered than it is; 1) actually getting Connery for Sybok. Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Dr. Sneer Gory posted:I have used Devil in the Dark to intro a few people to TOS, and I think it's a good one because it has a lot of the actual tropes of Star Trek, and not so much the pop culture ones like Kirk Drift.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 22:11 |
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zoux posted:33 is so loving good One of the best hours of TV in any genre, let alone sci-fi. The show dips a little coming off the miniseries, but then 33 grabs you by the throat and carries you through looking for the same high. The only complaint is, as the first episode of the series, it's all downhill. The show only infrequently reaches the same heights of tension: Gaeta networking the computers, New Caprica, and the insurrection are the only ones that come to mind. Maybe Splashdown's episode. It's that loving good.
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:47 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Very true, and although it's definitely not the most complex game my circle of friends has played, there's an intimidating list of rules and stuff to watch for when you're a new player. It'd also make for an exceptionally long game if you played all the variants: Pegasus, Ionian Nebula, New Cap and Daybreak in a single session. But why would anyone ever play New Cap or especially Ionian Nebula? The Cylon Fleet Board was the only good thing to come out of Exodus.
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