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Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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Mystic Mongol posted:

There's no charity quite like selling loving products.

He probably makes up for it in volume.

# ¿ Dec 10, 2013 19:42

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 07:51

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fool_of_sound posted:

'Always' explicitly says that any exceptions are unique or near-unique.

"Unique or near-unique exceptions" is a pretty much an euphemism for "player characters".

# ¿ Jan 20, 2014 09:19

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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I never noticed the font or the art upgrade until I checked the thread.

# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 11:34

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Regalingualius posted:

"just what the hell do you worship, then?"

"Yes, sadly."

# ¿ May 20, 2014 16:16

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fool_of_sound posted:

There's actually a murder-mystery quest in Arcanum that it appears you can bypass if you have the 'Speak with Dead' spell. In fact, the dead guy intentionally gives you the wrong information, and you get the bad ending for the quest if you listen to him. In fact, I think part of the joke of that particular spell is that the dead are all either useless of give bad information; the game specifically points out that the spell is torturous to them.

I'm not sure about the sidequests, but you could kill/Speak with Dead your way through the entire main plot line.

# ¿ May 26, 2014 08:47

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Random Stranger posted:

I think the real unexplored question on all of this is where does this action fit in with the alignment system in... hang on... give me a minute...

gently caress. There's no other RPG system in existence stupid enough to have an alignment system. Perhaps Gary Gygax is the truly chaotic-evil one.

Roll for Humanity loss.

# ¿ Dec 30, 2014 08:56

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Poil posted:

One of them already is a god, and I'm pretty sure he'd do a much better job at it than the current gods.

But I thought Banjo didn't want to join the pantheon?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 14:46

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Poison Mushroom posted:

I'm pretty sure at one point her teenage mind self actually says exactly that, though I'd have to check.

Your remember correctly.

# ¿ Feb 7, 2015 11:16

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Phanatic posted:

I'm not sure what would be funnier: if he didn't know that, or if he felt D&D had a spell that actually randomly reincarnates your dude as a Marvel superhero.

It's happened before.

# ¿ May 15, 2015 11:03

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Zogundar posted:

I can't remember when Durkon was supposed to have learned about it though.

Presumably when he and Roy were drawing battle plans for the final fight.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2015 18:32

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Mystic Mongol posted:

I remember those; clerics usually won those, true, but that was largely an issue of positioning. At the level that most of those fights were held at (5? I think?) druids haven't come into their own, and arcane casters didn't have enough raw firepower to completely eradicate their opponents on round one. Meanwhile clerics DID have some really reliable buff spells that stacked cleanly with magic items they could buy from a small budget; a fighter having one more BAB and two extra damage from a weapon specialization would be matched cleanly with a bull's strength spell, and then the cleric would have as many items, as many potions, and buffs on top of them, plus the bonuses from two clerical domains which were pretty sick. Surprise surprise, the cleric would simply have better combat numbers and more hit points than a similarly optimized fighter.

I remember one of those. As far as I recall, it was won by a wizard with Dust of Disappearance and multiple scrolls of Enervation.

A.o.D. posted:

edit: Best fighter move in a wizard fight is to sunder the spellbook.

This, unironically.

The first time I've ever played AD&D, my wizard failed his save against a stray lightning bolt and so did his spellbook. It burned to a crisp and, since the campaign was taking place in a remote forest, I was told that there was no way for me to get a replacement.

(That was also the last time I've ever played AD&D)

# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 09:29

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Mikl posted:

Some years ago I DM'd a 3.5 game where I solved the "casters being overpowered" problem by getting rid of casters. In the setting I cooked up only elves could be wizards and only half-elves could be sorcerers, both were very very rare (as I put it to my players: "give me a good reason why you should play a wizard or sorcerer and I might consider letting you play one"), and all other classes had their spell lists pruned to eliminate damage-dealing spells. It was lots of fun.

There's also the Dark Heresy/Call of Cthulhu approach, wherein all magic is inherently evil, corrupting or sanity-destroying and learning it is a shortcut to fate worse than death.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2015 20:24

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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Should have brought Crystal along.

# ¿ Nov 6, 2015 09:20

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Cliff Racer posted:

That feels a bit too much like "power of friendship" type stuff and as far as I can see thats not something Rich has ever put much stock in. Durkon might still play a hand in the vampire's defeat but I don't think he's going to claw out of his shackles and defeat it on his own.

Intense emotion can be a powerful game changer (see Roy's recent Hulk episode or Haley snapping out of speaking gibberish), but it requires a special trigger.

Durkon discovering the truth about his father's death would qualify, I think.

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# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 09:38

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Poison Mushroom posted:

It is at this point that it is revealed that while Shojo was not a paladin, Mr. Scruffy is, and smites the vampire into next Tuesday.

Wouldn't he lose his powers for associating with Belkar?

# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 12:32

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Colonel Cool posted:

imo it's less a religion and more a philosophy/code.

Jedi are more like monks than paladins in D&D.

But monks can't use swords! :downs:

# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 08:57

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Triple Elation posted:

What bothers me is that these games seem to have this concept of "Evil" as "person who is just generally a raging rear end in a top hat in every possible way".

If you're looking for a game where that is most emphatically not the case, look no further than Fallen London.

Behind its grindy gameplay and quaint Victorian setting, FL has more slippery slopes than a mountain range on the Elemental Plane of Lube. Even if you start out as a well-meaning paragon of virtue, the writers will use every dirty trick in the book (sunk cost fallacies, consistency traps, Milgram's Experiment stuff, etc.) to slowly but surely guide you into damnation, until you find your character carrying out a murder spree, joining a cannibal cult or setting buildings on fire with innocent people locked inside. And then, when you look back, you probably won't be able to find any particular point where the change happened.

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# ¿ Jan 18, 2016 16:44

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Who What Now posted:

A grizzly�polar bear hybrid (also pizzly bear, polizzly, prizzly bear, nanulak, Polar-Grizz[citation needed], or grolar bear[1][2])

Pack your bags, buckaroo.

If it's on Wikipedia, it can't be more than DC 30, tops.

A DC 90 bear fact would probably be some Lovecraftian revelation that annihilates minds and turns people into cultists praying to the hibernating ursine overlords (and you, the herald of their awakening).

# ¿ Jan 29, 2016 10:26

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nimby posted:

Everyone deserves a chance to be Demilich-loved.

The last character to profess this creed got eaten by her own wights.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 10:28

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My only hazy memory of Redwall involved appropriating "Bast-Imret" as the name for my edgy and brooding dark elf character.

# ¿ Sep 5, 2017 07:23

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jeebus bob posted:

Haley is not a wet hen.

Eh, I'd say she is moist enough to be a von Lipwig.

As for Roy, he'd be a fine Susan.

Rogue AI Goddess fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Oct 6, 2017

# ¿ Oct 6, 2017 15:45

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MonsterEnvy posted:

I remember a villain form the Book of Vile Darkness like that. He would enlsave kids and they were linked by magic chains to his armor that redirected any injury or pain he received to them.

Disjunction bait if I�ve ever seen one.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2018 18:28

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NihilCredo posted:

y
It could always be worse. We could have had Paths of Enlightenment.

Paths of Enlightenment are cool and great, as long as you restrict them to antagonists and treat their tenets as supernatural compulsions that players can research and exploit.

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# ¿ Apr 11, 2018 13:24

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Dolash posted:

It'd be like being a monotheist in a world where your god hangs out with the other gods and frequently shows up with them to get into fights on your lawn.

Your god is the only real god, as evidenced by the miraculous powers that he grants to the faithful such as yourself. Not only that, but your god is also good, benevolent and magnanimous.

The other "gods" are false idols. Their worshippers are evil fraudsters who rely on carnival tricks in lieu of genuine divine aid. They want to kill you and defile everything you've ever cared about.

The fights on the lawn take place between the worshippers rather than gods, but they are both frequent and deadly. Sometimes, the dead bodies left on the ground belong to your friends and compatriots; other times, to regular people you have sworn (and failed) to protect. The charlatans have numbers, cunning and absolute lack of moral scruples on their side. You have literal superpowers... but those are only as strong as your conviction. If you let your faith waver, people will die and the bad guys will win.

There is no place for polytheists on the front lines of the Ascension War.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2018 13:36

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RandallODim posted:

what's everyone's favorite hunter conspiracy, mine's cheiron

Ashwood Abbey is an excellent antagonist in a non-Hunter game, but I don't want to be in the same room as anyone who wants to play as their member in a Hunter one.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2018 12:54

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reignofevil posted:

Split the party

That's also why the trolley problem doesn't work in D&D, unless it involves actual trolls.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2018 10:02

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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Once OOTS is over, Rich will finish ASOIAF.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2018 10:06

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The Question IRL posted:

Resurrection restores you to Full Hit Points when it brings you back.

Loki's Resurrection apparently doesn't because he's a bit of a dick.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2018 12:56

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Slashrat posted:

That's a neat detail, and suddenly makes me think that disintegration -> true resurrection might make for a secure storage system for characters of the evil inclination.

The basic viability test for evil storage systems is "would you use it to store your own phylactery?"

# ¿ Jan 2, 2019 09:08

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Raenir Salazar posted:

There's no reward at the end of the tunnel for being Evil with a capital E

That's because the reward for being Evil with a capital E is on this side of the tunnel.

That said, if supervillains got infernal rewards, whether by reincarnating as a Diablo clone or by being awarded their own pick of 100 Days of Sodom villas, it would create an incentive for heroes of the setting not to kill said villains and, indeed, to prevent them from dying. Alternate methods like flesh to stone, trap the soul, imprisonment and mind seed would see much more use on the Good side of the conflict.

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# ¿ Jan 2, 2019 15:02

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PMush Perfect posted:

I at least hope that the player's new character started at the same level as the old one.

At a higher level, surely. No one said that "strike the opponent down and you will attract the attention of their mentor/superior/sire" deal should only work for villains.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2019 14:00

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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IIRC, a stone golem becomes a flesh golem, while a regular statue becomes a corpse.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2019 09:16

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Random Stranger posted:

Pygmalion only from the statue's perspective...

At that point, you might as well play Promethean: the Created.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2019 13:49

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
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My thoughts and feelings about Hel's potential demise are summed up by the speech that Haley gave the Crystal Golem before giving her the Terminator treatment.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2019 18:49

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Banjo will be the next ruler of Azure City after Shojo and Hinjo. Hence the name.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 19:38

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oobey posted:

Why even bother with country lines and other geographical nonsense? The price of an object is determined by how much a buyer is willing to pay for it, full stop.

All you need to do is just conduct an interparty negotiation where one of the PCs agrees to buy the diamond in question for 1000 GP from one of the other PCs. If you don't have 1000 GP on hand, no problem, you can just conduct the sale on credit. Once the value of the diamond is set, do the resurrection. Easy peasy.

Getting a strong 'The Cambist and Lord Iron' vibe from this.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2019 14:15

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ikanreed posted:

As long as we're in the alignment 9 hells, here's my awful take.

Law-chaos is your default reaction to those more powerful than you

Good-evil is your reaction to those less powerful than you

This is still the best alignment take in this thread and a serious contender to the best alignment take of all time.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2019 14:57

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The Question IRL posted:

So not to make this an extended de-rail, but is it just me or is it kind of obvious that Minrah is supposed to be a Transgender woman?

It's not just you, I got the same impression.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2020 06:31

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If Xykon could research a variant Moderate-Strength Forcecage specifically for Miko, I don't see why Redcloak has to be stuck with the default Implosion.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2020 21:41

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 07:51

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sebmojo posted:

whoa. disintegrate is sort of pivotal, isn't it, as something that should make problems go away, but really, really doesn't.

Kubota will be avenged.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2020 06:40

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