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disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021


I'm voting in fear of everything I swore daily was coming to pass during eight years of a Democrat in office (and also every day before that) but which never happened! I have less capacity for reflection than a vampire before a mirror!

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disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

VitalSigns posted:

Whoever figured out how to get people to treat politics and political parties like sports fandom or nation-state loyalties where it's all about bellyfeels and in-group reinforcement and winning against the other side, instead of about policy and material outcomes was an evil genius.

I mean...

But there is a serious discussion about how the US is too big, like a pack of countries jammed together rather than anything cohesive, considering the limitations of communication up until recently and the cultural differences that distance imposes. There's an overarching culture but a lot of specifics break down into regionalisms born out of our history. (Not to say that other countries' internal politics have never been contentious or prone to factionalization.) The US Civil War and national politics leading up to it brought into very stark relief how political party is pretty much a nation-state loyalty inside the larger country, followed by stuff like the Solid South and its sudden flip in parties with the Civil Rights Act(s) in the 1960s.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Panfilo posted:

The rotary phone joke has been done to death. And it assumes the zoomer had never seen any movies that had people operating rotary phones.

It also gives away that the person making the joke probably hasn't dealt too much with young kids in a long, long time and is just making assumptions. The rotary phone style is still a fairly common toy design. Like, yeah, it's kind of nitpicky but all these "jokes" hang around a lot of stupid little nits to pick.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Elephant Ambush posted:

This was the plot of some lovely old anime movie I remember watching like maybe 10 years ago. I don't even remember the name because it was an awful movie but the plot was similar. The "villain" wanted to do an Assassin's Creed type thing where he was going to launch a mind control satellite into space and end war, poverty, racism, etc. Not because he wanted to personally rule the world but because he wanted to get rid of all the bad poo poo humans do. And the reason he had to be stopped, according to the female lead character, was that "it has to be their choice".

Like what the gently caress. I wasn't nearly as progressive then as I am now and I still understood that was loving stupid. I would 100% launch that satellite/press that button/whatever if it would reprogram humanity and yeah sorry I don't care if chuds kill themselves because they can't handle being non-lovely people. Ideally that wouldn't happen and we wouldn't have to lose people but if the remaining population were all progressive socialists it would be worth it.

That DC cartoon isn't even being consistent with the crying child because if you're seriously reprogramming everyone's brains then you're also reprogramming the kid too and she would be OK with daddy being brainwashed into being a non-chud.

If you want a rare reversal on that kind of plot about making people "better," check out Joe Haldeman's Forever Peace, a thematic sequel to his better known classic The Forever War. The main characters are pilots of advanced war bots that they control through a remote neural link, acting in perfect sync with a team of fellow pilots that they're also linked to. They end up finding out that someone who stays linked up with other humans for an extended period (like a couple weeks) develops a deep, inviolable empathy that makes it impossible to actually go through with killing someone or knowingly getting someone killed. And they decide that the moral course of action is to join a coup to "humanize" their superiors because no we don't need to just wait patiently for chuds and other fuckers to suddenly find some kind of goodness in their hearts when humans are very capable of extinguishing all life at this point.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Dameius posted:

Having never heard of this dude I clicked and got to hear how Millennials are soft because they never fought in a war. Hrmmmmmmmm.

Look, we never had to dodge a draft like his heroes, so the 20-year War on Terror that's consumed numerous peers through most of our adolescences and all of our adult lives doesn't count.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Cornwind Evil posted:

It has been five years and I still don't have a loving clue over why Hillary's emails were so bad. The way these assholes talk, you'd think she was emailing around all of the US's secrets, nuclear launch codes, and a list of all the fears and hatreds of every politician in the country.

Because it's Hillary. That's it. That's the whole substance of it. They probably would claim she was doing something like that (because, gently caress, they certainly claim there's coded language for child porn in her campaign emails, because of 4chan's own code phrases for it), but it's easily as much because they're convinced that if they're allowed to root through her trash they'll find something that will get their political monster-under-the-bed LOCKED UP FOREVER AND THE LIBERALS WILL HAVE TO ADMIT HOW RIGHT WE ALWAYS WERE AND you get the picture. Just like how Ken Starr had to go outside the remit of his investigation to find something and everyone just shrugged and went along with that.

Like, gently caress the Clintons, just like pretty much anyone else with power in this country, but their obsession is a very particular hate-boner.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Orange Devil posted:

Viewing education as an investment akin to the stock market is a goddamn travesty. Quit putting a goddamn dollar sign on literally everything.


NO NOT LIKE THAT DONT REPLACE THE DOLLAR SIGNS WITH BITCOIN SIGNS gently caress YOUUUU

I think that's unfortunately the only way to relate to these dumb assholes, though then again they can't even get on board with investing in our infrastructure which is literally what the economy runs on.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Love that they had to so blatantly edit the last number there to make it 2022. So this clearly was a prediction for 2021 originally and then they had to shove the date back when it steadfastly failed to manifest, just like all their other "them drat DEMONcrats are comin' for mah freeeeeedoms!" predictions.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

They've completely eliminated Bush 2 from memory so bringing it up probably wouldn't do anything.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

They seem to forget the churches are Catholic. I thought protestants hated Catholics

They do, until they can use them to make common cause against ~LEFTISTS~ and people who think consent is important.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Deuce posted:

Oh my god they just inverted her mouth

Now that I look closely, they edited her face in general to make her slightly "uglier" - wider-set eyes, grayer and flatter skin tone to look sickly (or maybe less white, given what they did to the guy and kid in the other picture), kind of Innsmouth'd her.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Antigravitas posted:

Eh, I'm sure they'd be in favour of Kinder, Küche, Kirche. (Children, Kitchen, Church)

They've got their alliterative slogans down with "God and Guns" (and sometimes a third thing), or a kitsch US flag sign I saw not too long ago with, "Family, Faith, Freedom."

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Guavanaut posted:

*very non-racistly writes 'secure borders' on the African and 'lower crime' on the short Latin American kid*

I'm genuinely a little surprised those weren't the other way around.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

TGG posted:

I'd be stunned if anyone posting that actually owns a gas mower or actually mows their own lawn. The number of guys I know who would post something like that who have actually used a gas mower or taken care of their own lawn is so drat slim, I know maybe 4 people past myself who actually do their own yardwork.

Nah, I'm sure there are more than a few who'd post that who also use riding mowers (started with a key in the ignition, of course) on a postage-stamp-sized lawn, and pretends that's a reason to feel superior to their imagined foe, "Anyone Younger Than Me Faced With A Pullcord."

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

There's nothing wrong with wanting an open space to play, socialize, and work on stuff. "Appreciate it from nearby" doesn't take into account things like children and pets. And if you're raising animals like chickens then keeping the grass short is basically necessary unless you want to give predators an incredibly easy opportunity to pick off your animals from hiding. "Just don't" isn't actually useful.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Brawnfire posted:

Chickens will turn any area of vegetation into a WWI battlefield in short order, so that would solve itself

You need a lot of chickens to do that to much of any size, not just like a hobbyist flock of a dozen or two. Their presence doesn't immediately despoil everything in a three meter radius per bird.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Brawnfire posted:

Man I had like six and there's still pits where their run used to be, idk

A run's gonna get like that because it's where they're going to have a lot of concentrated activity. Ours looks like poo poo too because it sees people and birds there a lot, mostly because that's where we feed them. Get outside the run, even with two dozen allowed to range most of the day, and the most damage is still where the humans walk to attend to stuff at and around their coop.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Brawnfire posted:

yeah that's fair I wasn't really being super serious tbh

Fair enough, I've got to be a bit serious about it because leaving the grass untrimmed demonstrably encourages raccoons and foxes to come pick at the flock at their leisure.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

My brother in law posted this. I am guessing that:
-a third of these are just conspiracies that are not real.
- a third are things that he has no idea what they even mean.
- a third are things he actually supported or still supports.



Most of this is real and are honestly good reasons to remember that our government is heavily militarized and unaccountable, and vigorously resistant to ever being held accountable. And a lot, if one is to be honest about them, are indicative of very callous, frequently very right-wing bullshit that considers only some people to count as meriting human and civil rights, both in the US and abroad.

However, you know your brother-in-law way better than I do, obviously, so you'll know far better how honestly he's actually presenting this and upon whom he's laying the blame.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

That person literally does not understand how money works for anyone other than them, and probably also not even how it works for them. If you forego all nice things in your life it might come out to saving equivalent to one, maybe two rent checks a year. And it won't make a loving dent in student loans.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Medullah posted:



Always love this one. Who's the pussies raising kids these days?

That kid's wearing a helmet. What kind of coddled baby bullshit is that? Step your game up, meme maker! Own the libs even harder with the kids whose heads got pulverized without their helmets, like was good and proper! They're not around to gainsay your conviction that it was a good thing they died!

(I had a cousin die real young from the conditions these fuckers lionize as "before the pussies took over." Accidents happen but that one was pure loving carelessness by an adult. So this person can eat my entire rear end.)

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Like with most propaganda and advertising, the real objective is to get their idea into a person's head whether they engage with it further or not. The headlines shown in that article are all things that are immediately incendiary all to the purpose of declaring, "Dems, especially this Dem, are all monsters." Get someone reflexively mad and to carry the mad with them.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

InsertPotPun posted:

famous republican icon mel brooks

They keep trying to claim him because Blazing Saddles had people saying the N-word in it. Like, that's the entirety of it. Memes floating around about how "it couldn't be made today" and "everyone's too afraid of offense," etc. They don't understand anything about what it was in service to. Or anything else about the movie.

Also it almost wasn't made back then because the suits were goddamn terrified of giving offense with how it used the N-word. The biggest resistance to making it now would be fear of offending the chuds, who'd pitch a giant hissy fit because it's a movie made by a Jewish man where a Black man and another Jewish man manage to regularly outsmart all the racist idiots and the opportunistic white capitalist who's happy to exploit racism to make a buck even if he doesn't openly demonstrate much personal prejudice.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Jagged Jim posted:

Yeah, the execs were a hell of a lot more frightened of "It's twoo! Oh, it's TWOO!" than any of the n-bombs dropped in that movie.

Look, I'm just sharing what I've read of it, and the language being so blunt and bold about it was gonna be an issue too.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

You probably voted for Trump twice, so I really don't want to hear it, Boomer.

Also that warning's only there because one of them did it.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

You want to know who also really wants to publicly promote that they support movies exposing pedophiles and human traffickers…. pedophiles and human traffickers do. They use it as a shield in an attempt to hide what they do. “Oh, sound of freedom was such an amazing movie and we need to go after those demons” is a good way to get people to look the other way.

YUP. I'd have to go digging for a source now and I fear what I would find via our increasingly useless search engines, but it's also become a problem where these kinds of groups who claim to be fighting trafficking end up promoting it, because they create demand for victims to rescue. Loud, angry amateurs making the problem worse, and harder for the actual professionals to deal with.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

HootTheOwl posted:

My wife is informing me that "something racist happened in some decade where it was filmed"
I assume more than usual?

Apparently the music video was filmed in front of the site of an infamous lynching in 1927. And included footage from BLM protests as part of its threats, while conspicuously missing anything from, oh, say... January 6th. It's not subtle.

I haven't directly watched it to confirm anything, nor would I actually know about the courthouse where the lynching happened anyway. But also hate-watches are still engagement numbers so gently caress that.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

HootTheOwl posted:

1600 a month isn't very good

This was absolutely shared by someone who still thinks $1000 a month (for anyone but them) is astronomical. Which is roughly what I lived on, after taxes, about 15-ish years ago working full time in a tiny town with a job within walking distance, which means I didn't have a car to pay for and cost of living was relatively low. And even then this was getting paid NYS minimum wage which at least was better than federal, which still hasn't budged.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

As if he would even walk that far without a car or golf cart to carry him around. He's the laziest motherfucker and wants rallies that come to him instead of leading marches.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

One with a hastily crossed-out BENGHAZI and instead HUNTER'S LAPTOP written in with pencil.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

*breathes in*

*breathes out*

*breathes in*

You're right! Actual biology in the world shows us that our imperfect classifications are just that - imperfect! Taxonomy is after all a construct, an attempt to map the complicated web of biological relationships across mass populations instead of small-scale family trees. But the map is not the territory and it can only tell us so much! So perhaps it would be useful to approach the concept of subspecies in a similar way, acknowledging more that we're dealing with minor regional or circumstantial variation across a number of species, much as we have with a messy concept often rooted in bigotry like race!

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Medullah posted:

Yeah the people that do the "race is made up" and "you're the racist for pointing it out, I love everyone, all lives matter" are generally doing it to be followed with "So we don't need reparations, affirmative action, lawsuits for racially profiling because race isn't real"

Some people seem to genuinely not understand that race can be socially real and needing addressing, but biologically trivial and morally loving nothing, but those waters are muddied to hell by people who deliberately want to confuse the issue.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Nenonen posted:

In only two generations we have lost the knowledge of how to treat polio and tuberculosis with food & herbs :negative:

I want to take it the other way if I was confronted with this by someone I knew, and start talking in glowing terms about this desire and how I'm glad they've come around and want to achieve the ambitions of Mao and Pol Pot in creating a self-sufficient society focused on more agrarian living.

Not that the people saying this kind of thing actually care about capitalism as anything but a jingoistic buzzword, but they're demanding a departure from a hyperspecialized atomized society that capitalists gladly propagate and profit from and instead demand things that various major Communist Boogeymen drove to institute.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Deuce posted:

My personal favorite was a woman singing along specifically to the "some of those who work forces" part while wearing a thin blue line flag as a fuckin cape

Incredibly likely she doesn't think it's a condemnation.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

The Solid South just suddenly changed its mind! No reason, don't look into history!

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Animal-Mother posted:

Back in the days when I would waste my time reading r/conservative they had a stickied thread about how to respond to the Lee Atwater story. It was some combination of that Yoga Berra "I didn't say all those things I said!" and "It was off the record, man, c'mon!"

Having had a recent-ish confrontation with a Reddit conservative (not on Reddit), one of the strategies is now also to deny the stuff Atwater said was ever put into practice.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

TVs Ian posted:

Also 44, and at some point in my late 20s-early 30s, my dad called me his “anti-matter.” I think it’s only accelerated since then.

At the very least, coming out as non-binary definitely seems opposed to the man who gave me years of anxiety about exactly how pulled up or scrunched down my socks should be without being considered “girly.”

Christ, people like this are always way more vain and concerned about appearances than even the most cartoonish stereotypes of a vain woman or LGBT person in their head.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Brawnfire posted:

This is accurate, after a fashion. "Created in the image of" is a shorthand way of describing God projecting Godself into lower dimensions, meaning what we think of as a singular annular "butthole" is actually a projection of a higher-dimensional structure into dimensions we are able to perceive with our senses.

Thank you, now I have "hypercube butthole" stuck in my head. The goatse tesseract.

disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Panfilo posted:

They never actually provide any examples either, which is annoying. And it makes me genuinely curious about the actual breakdown I'm sure some think tank out there has bothered to look it up.

Contrast this with how you can argue "nearly all mass shooters are white cis men" and they'll immediately post a collage of 30+ examples of poc/queer mass shooters.

It's straight up that study from a while ago (a few years, I think?) where white guys feel like they've been "outnumbered" when the group they're in hits a certain percentage of Not White Guys, and it's a small percentage. I think it was like 30%? (Google is being very unhelpful in finding this again, no surprise.) But basically as soon as the population of a group hits a relatively low threshold, the dominant group thinks they're suddenly outnumbered, and for many of them that includes feeling like they're being assailed somehow. Absolutely zero surprise that the same phenomenon happens on a low incidence of minority people appearing at all in any kind of mass media.

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disposablewords
Sep 12, 2021

Professor Beetus posted:

I took a colonial American history class in college and my biggest takeaway was that puritans were hosed up assholes who deserved to be discriminated against in England and things would have been better if they had all gone the way of Roanoke. And the Mathers were particularly vile assholes.

Some of my relatives have done the genealogical research for me to know for certain that if the various Puritan colonist groups disappeared, I would most definitely not exist. And I still agree.

Trivia posted:

I took an elective course on the history of witchcraft and came away with this very same conclusion as well.

Europe did nothing wrong.

Hey, same. Course was super interesting but the historical figures we spent so much time on were awful people, especially in the Americas.

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