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Do you like Alien 3 "Assembly Cut"?
Yes, Alien 3 "Assembly Cut" was tits.
No, Alien and Aliens are the only valid Alien films.
Nah gently caress you Alien 3 sucks in all its forms.
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McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






What goes around really would've come around if they made that Alien 3 script that featured Soviet bioengineers transforming the xeno reproductive cycle into a virus that infected people and caused them to grow chestbursters all over like malignant tumors.

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McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






The real terror in AvP Classic is getting lost/running past that switch you need to throw for ten minutes because everything looks the same in red mood lighting.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Preston Waters posted:

"Wake me up when there's an alien game that can get you mistakenly hospitalized under suspicion of having a psychotic break"
- You, just now

Well when you put it that way, it sounds RAD AS gently caress

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Makes sense, the Alien doesn't have eyes after all.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






banned from Starbucks posted:

The combat system or whatever these games use really doesnt work for an Aliens game at all. Esp the part at like 9:30 where five aliens are just punching a group of people 2 feet away. Theres nothing scary about [shoot] - [pause combat, switch to shotgun] --[shoot] - [pause, eat chicken wing, regain 20 health] [resume combat] and the idea of swapping people in and out of cryo because you need them to open a door or whatever just sounds dumb as hell. Like im sure some people would have dug it but it just seems like it would lack anything that makes Alien games scary or thematic.

That's a fair general criticism but the game was only partway through development when it was canned, so there's really no telling how tepid or intense the pace of combat would ultimately have been.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005







How It Should Have Ended

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Fart City posted:

I mean if you get down to brass tacks the whole premise is hosed from jump street. It makes no sense that they would be able to create a Ripley clone with a parasitic embryo inside from Ripley’s blood. Like either you’d just get Ripley, or you’d only get Brundleflies. IMO they should have left Ripley out alltogether, ditched the queen, and had the newborn be the sole producer of offspring.

It's a perfectly cromulent premise, it's just that she should've come out like the transformed Species chick instead of a cool Super-Ripley. If you went into the clone room without seeing the end result first you'd even expect something like that. Psycho hybrid Ripley Queen being ripped apart while giving birth to a disgusting hermaphroditic Newborn, now there's an ending.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

Somehow I missed a person in my head-count; all 20 copies of Labyrinth are now claimed, but I can do a waiting list if people change their minds!

I haven't read the thread in a while and missed out on this, put me on the waiting list if you get any more xenobro.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






david_a posted:

McSpanky’s Labyrinth is in the mail :)

:tipshat:

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






MrMojok posted:

The aliens can read.

Whaddya mean they can read, they're fuckin' animals!

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I can honestly see what they were going for. A big running thing in Resurrection is that Ripley 8 is part xenomorph and the Queen is part human, as a result of their DNA getting jumbled up in the cloning process (hence Ripley acting weird and being hypersensitive to the xenomorphs, and the Queen giving live birth to the Newborn); the Ripley 8-derived xenomorphs all being smarter, to a near-human level, tracks with that just fine.

Them being able to read and understand English is a mad clunky way to handle that, but... meh.

The concept is good but the author is just so, so bad at the wordcraft to evoke it. The Terminator novelization was so much better at getting into the theory of mind and thought processes of an alien being (in the sense of something utterly inhuman).

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I always forget about that! The one by Randall Frakes I believe, I don't have my copy handy to check at the moment.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

Realtalk this is the correct way to handle canon

Star Trek fans off to the side, quietly loling that it took y'all this long to figure it out

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

You can’t count ‘Alien’ twice.

But you can count the cameo in Predator 2 :c00lbert:

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Low Desert Punk posted:

where does Ripley fit in the reading of Aliens as a corporation quelling an organizing labor force

And people thought the Vietnam allegory made the Vietnamese people look bad!

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I hope the whole movie is an Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge deal that happens while Ripley is falling into the molten lead in Alien3.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






McSpanky posted:

I hope the whole movie is an Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge deal that happens while Ripley is falling into the molten lead in Alien3.

and they don't tell Sigourney Weaver

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






oldpainless posted:

(Ripley is standing over some sort of alien corpse)
Ripley: this doesn’t make sense. It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen.
(A hooded figure enters from behind)
Figure: Perhaps I can be of some assistance
(Removes hood and it’s David)
(Ripley is confused)
David: you see, this corpse needs blood to reach its full potential. Human blood.
(Another hooded figure has entered behind David while he spoke)
Figure: I’m afraid that’s easier said than done)
(Removes hood and it’s bishop)
(Ripley smiles)
Ripley:Bishop!
(Bishop nods)
Bishop: Ripley
(David is confused)
David: Bishop?
(Bishop nods)
Bishop: bishop
(Bishop Ripley and David have a threesome on top of the alien corpse)

I will go to the theater to see this

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






brocked posted:

I pity the Predator who sets his sights on Darth Vader

Jedi Master *guttural clicking sounds*

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Neo Rasa posted:

Also at the time corporations were starting to push the idea more aggressively of the corporation as an infallible god-concept that cannot fail. I forget which movie company was named but in New Media Monopoly I remember it being mentioned how in the early 80s at least one major studio had like an absolute mandate where a corporation could never be portrayed as bad, only individual evil suits like Burke. Alien was like right before that was happening in a big way. In Aliens there's almost like a soft retcon where the company is just the company, and it would be the greatest company ever except for individuals like Burke who are uniquely evil outliers.

This is funny because I always assumed that Burke was given tacit approval by W-Y, in a "we're just gonna look over here while you 'check up on things *wink wink* over there'" way. Like, he didn't really go rogue until he actively tried to get people impregnated with xeno embryos, the thing that caused the original encounter in Alien to go sideways, and even then the Company would've happily swept the whole thing under the rug if he'd actually gotten results. I guess getting into Aliens much later in life even though I basically grew up with it as cultural background noise had that effect on me, I'd already gotten that "just a few bad apples" bullshit knocked out.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

I just started reading Starfish about a month ago with the intent to read the whole trilogy, so welp. :shobon:

My guy, Behemoth (no I'm not gonna track down the unicode to do his devastatingly-clever greek lettering gag) is one of the worst scifi novels I've ever been exposed to. It takes a special talent to marry that much apocalyptic misery porn with a level of stemlord technofetishism approaching religious ecstasy.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






The boots on the other guy look like they weigh 40 pounds apiece.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Apparently they're modeling the gameplay after Left4Dead. The environs seem a little bright and open for my taste, but at least it'll be better than ACM... right?

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






sigher posted:

And there goes my enthusiasm.

Left4Dead was fun for what it was but yeah, that's not Aliens. Xenos en masse are more swarming insects with uncanny cleverness, not mindless ravenous berserkers.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Ferrinus posted:

Hmm, no, I disagree to disagree. In fact I disagree that we disagree

As a peanut gallery spectator to this whole exchange, knock it off with this dumb poo poo.

e: oh new page, you sure earned that custom avatar didn't you buddy?

McSpanky fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Apr 1, 2021

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






The Notorious ZSB posted:

AVPR literally listened to the fans and gave them everything they asked for after AVP was so grossly disappointing. It is schlock of the highest order and i was entertained (until the mouth rape of the pregnant women but what can ya do)

I can never watch AVPR again is what I can do. What a grossly mean-spirited movie, and I'm saying that from well within horror fandom.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






banned from Starbucks posted:

How is AV|P:R any more mean spirited than Aliens? Every character in that movie essentially gets mouth raped. I'm sure some of the colonists were pregnant women.

It's like being against the very concept of the coolest horror creature ever.

The distant implication in Aliens' setting and layers of scifi allegory in the normal facehugger-cocooing-chestburster process were discarded in favor of a grotesquely immediate attack that inflicted far more graphic and crass violence on pregnant women than I'm personally comfortable with and really discolored the entire procedure going forward. There's a line of tastelessness that even a horror movie can cross where you're just watching torture for torture's sake and boy, was that it.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Darko posted:

The AvP arcade game is seriously the best sidescrolling fighter of all time.

The AVP from 2000 was a whip-rear end good FPS too.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






I still can't believe Dreamcatcher was optioned for a movie adaptation, and I've seen it three times!

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

God I don’t even remember, I haven’t played AvP multiplayer in an extremely long time, I don’t even remember what modes it has. Maybe I’ll screw around with it after work today.

Also I’ve got a guy in the FPS thread saying he wants in but he wants to know how we’re coordinating all this. I said “I don’t know :v:

You could make a steam group and invite everyone into it, that would let you send out group messages/invites and have a group chat channel for live coordination. Just a thought.

It's been a hot minute (read: 20+ years :v: ) but the game has some dope modes, I recall two survivor maps where player Marines and Predators fight against endless waves of NPC Aliens, and a cool take on zombie mode where the map starts with all Marines and one Alien, and every time the Alien kills a Marine they respawn as an Alien.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Xenomrph posted:

How do you do Steam groups? I don’t think I’ve ever done it before.

Click on your name in the main Steam window, then on Groups; in the Groups screen on the left there's a Create Group link.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






sigher posted:

TCM has already been "figured out," and people are running it like a competitive game. There's basically no reason to even be quiet for most of the round and you can just blaze through objectives with a good team. A good family team will just shut everyone out.

Man, this poo poo is so lame. At least you can have some fun if you get all-goon games together, had some good times with Friday the 13th that way before interest fell off.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Mr. Grapes! posted:

In Red Heat he is a Russian cop. Accent is way off but who cares in the 80s.

In Commando he describes growing up in Germany.

In Kindergarten Cop the other cop pretends to be his sister and she puts on a cheesy German accent to do so and says WUNDERBAR a lot.

In Junior I also think he is a scientist 'from Europe' and at one point pretends to be an East German athlete woman who took too many steroids.


I am not sure if there are more but in most movies it is not brought up at all. It is fun showing Arnold movies to my Vietnamese friends who missed all of 80s 90s US culture and they are utterly baffled by how Arnie sounds and openly wonder if he is doing it on purpose as a joke.

It's explained in Batman & Robin as well, Mr. Freeze's bio has him as an Austrian who attended university on a weightlifting scholarship IIRC.

God why do I remember this.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






wuffles posted:

I went and rewatched it. Porcelain wall tile, glass from the mirror, and drywall. Drywall is made mostly from gypsum which would become a plaster under high enough heat. The porcelain and glass would also become molten.

So it’s gonna cauterize the wound and then the “paste” would harden to cover the wound. I don’t know how well it would actually work but maybe that’s the idea behind it.

I love that all of the Predator's equipment is basically super-advanced tribal hunting gear, down to the first aid kit which uses material from the local environment to make a high tech poultice + cauterizing agent.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






End of Shoelace posted:

The problem with this kind of thinking is that it leads you to try and find a "better" story outside of whatever it is that you're watching/reading. It leads one to write fanfiction, instead of focusing on what's there.

Or, it leads one to reject worse stories, and indeed the entire concept of canon, and free their imaginations from the yoke of creative ownership.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Open Marriage Night posted:

That Aliens: Fireteam Elite game is pretty dang cool. Threw $3.50 at it for some WY skins and stuff. Been rocking a technician, but I’m testing the waters on the lancer.

Hope you enjoy your active participation in perpetuating orientalist dehumanization of foreign others, capitalist scum

Trent posted:

incredibly arrogant :words:

You first laughed off and are now talking down to an actual Asian person about their own perspectives on this subject, and indeed their very identity. Maybe for your next trick you can tell a Black person how they should feel about the N-word.

McSpanky fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 22, 2023

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Wasn't there a Terminator game set during the Resistance that was kiiiiinda like that? IIRC it was third-person and of course you could get weapons that could destroy Terminators, but if they got within arm's reach there was no QTE or quick shove or anything, you were just dead.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






That Hicks looks like a very constipated William Fitchner.

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McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






banned from Starbucks posted:

I hope the movie opens with big chap having a nightmare that Ripley JONESY is about to burst out of his chest.

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