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Gammatron 64 posted:Voyager people are dumb and bad and should feel bad. Voyager people are like Doctor Who people. And as always, Deep Space 9 is the best Star Trek.
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Maybe we could decompress the main shuttlebay. Blow ourselves off course.
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Oct 1, 2016 01:35
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So I've been rewatching DS9, and Way of the Warrior is still real good, y'all.
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Oct 1, 2016 06:21
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I once heard it described quite crudely as "Bajorans are space-Jews. Ferengi are space-Jewish-stereotypes." But, yeah. I agree with Zurui. Go overly allegorical and you lose the weight.
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Oct 2, 2016 05:57
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Why are we talking about what The Olds of CBS will think about a show that's airing exclusively on the internet?
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Oct 3, 2016 02:07
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He actually makes a huge deal about never using one.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:57
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Gammatron 64 posted:Also people can try and use the same excuses they used for Ghostbusters '16 and just calling anyone who doesn't like it a racist, sexist homophobic gamergater. My fear isn't so much your response to the rhetoric personally so much as the poisoned well. It's like bringing up the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia. Yeah, you're technically correct that there are people who will poo poo on your opinion and dismiss your not liking the show as unexamined biases on your part based only on reacting to other, super-biased people, but bringing out the "anybody who doesn't 100% support every piece of art the SJWs have rallied behind is called called a terrible person" puts you, sadly, in a box with people who scream that the SJWs are ruining everything. And right now, that's literal Nazis, unwittingly showing great dramatic irony by claiming their hatred as free speech while demanding everybody stop talking about social issues when discussing art because it hurts their feewings. I don't have a point to make so much as an exasperated sigh that wanting to point out that thing in art can be, socially speaking, not the best, always, always, always, starts an argument that ends, inexorably and sometimes even far away from the original two people discussing it, with a false-equivalence between people who want the world to be more inclusive, and people who think racism/sexism/homophobia aren't real and/or everybody needs to shut up about them right now. I'm as SJW as they come, and I don't think you hated Star Trek because it had a black female lead. I do, however, know that there are hundreds of thousands between you and I who would hate every show that did, no matter the quality, so I understand some people (usually the recently woke, as there's nobody more zealous than the recently-converted) overcompensating when trying to point out those hundreds of thousands and accidentally hitting you. It sucks that it happens, but being told you might be racist feels a lot less awful when you recognize that the person saying it is trying to rid the world of racism (however imperfectly) and the person on the other side is trying to convince people that racism doesn't exist, or worse: that it does, but it really only targets white people. In short, you're right. It's Star Trek, and that poo poo's probably not going to fly. But I've been surprised before. Thank you for allowing me to use your post as a jumping-off point.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:17
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Oh, god dammit. I made an effortpost in the middle of one of Jeb!'s awesome poststorms.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:23
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Astroman posted:There probably would have been organized boycotts, dropped sponsors, and a lot of stations would have refused to show the episode. A couple would probably have dropped the series.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:00
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HD DAD posted:Bareil is the LaCroix of personalities
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Oct 11, 2018 02:54
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That is absolutely the best.
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Oct 12, 2018 23:21
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Is there a game that lets you explore the Enterprise D or Deep Space Nine the way Elite Force lets you explore voyager? Because it'd be super cool to have that for a ship and crew I actually give a poo poo about.
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Oct 16, 2018 02:22
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The best. And it isn't close.
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Oct 17, 2018 03:03
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Speaking as transitioning enby...
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Oct 17, 2018 03:06
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I will add a caveat that while DS9 is the worst, it only works with the groundwork the two previous series laid out. They built the house so we could cheer as it was demolished.
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Oct 17, 2018 03:36
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Peachfart posted:This would be the equivalent of smallpox blankets to most cultures, imo
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Oct 19, 2018 01:41
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Is it ever explained why the first vorta we ever see in DS9 can shoot balls of energy out of her neck? It never comes up again.
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Oct 19, 2018 03:04
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Every Star Trek but Deep Space Nine is trending on US Netflix because we continue to live in the timeline where Biff had the sports almanac that will eventually become the mirror universe.
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Oct 19, 2018 05:11
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I thought the Gorn weren't a race and that one thing Kirk fought was called "the gorn" not "a gorn"
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Oct 22, 2018 02:53
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I've finally reached the  portion of my DS9 rewatch.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:11
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What do you think neelix smells like? He looks like someone who would have a "that smell"
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Oct 28, 2018 21:45
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Cythereal posted:On the other hand, budget. The Borg from the beginning have been infamously expensive to feature. The battle with the cube in First Contact was one of the most expensive parts of the entire movie.
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Oct 30, 2018 02:04
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I'm nearing the end of my DS9 rewatch and Take Me Out to the Holosuite is still just the absolute best. This show is a real gem.
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Nov 2, 2018 02:38
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The montage in the middle of the episode that culminates with Kira catching Odo practicing umpire moves in his office just makes me smile like the dickens. The fact that the show explored the dark side of utopia and lives in wartime for much of its latter-half makes the lighthearted episodes so, so refreshing, because with the exception of Sisko, at times (In the Pale Moonlight and Nuking planets to capture Eddington), the people of the show never sell their soul. It's Star Trek at wartime, and it's even optimistic about war, fundamentally, even if it does ask all those questions about "what if our socialist utopia was threatened and we had to do bad things?" A bunch of characters declaring time out on war and playing an old dead game for fun and camaraderie is just <3 as gently caress. I'm really looking forward to Sisko's Eleven coming up for the same reason.
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Nov 2, 2018 05:07
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The only thing Take Me Out... does wrong is not include Garak in some fashion, likely stealing the Vulcans’ signs from a tree in the outfield.
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Nov 2, 2018 06:12
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Funnily enough I'm watching DS9 for the first time and just watched Take Me Out last night.
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Nov 2, 2018 21:54
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Comrade Fakename posted:I checked out one of those Midnight’s Edge videos once and it was all about how Discovery is bad because it panders to the evil SJWs, so gently caress that guy. Star Trek has been progressive as gently caress from the word go.
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Nov 6, 2018 06:46
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Sash! posted:Maybe, and I'm barely even going out on a limb, we simply disagree with the point they make and simply enjoy a well told story.
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Nov 6, 2018 21:40
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Real talk, it's because anti-SJWs are always okay with poo poo they hate if they saw it before they got redpilled. They always trot out Sarah Connor and Ripley and say "why can't it be like that?" And, well, it is sometimes. And they still hate it. Because it's new, and not nestled safely in their childhood.
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Nov 6, 2018 22:08
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What really gets me is that when people get woke, and they revisit things they love, they're openly critical of the bad things the things they love did. Like, I love Christmas Story but I can still point at its horribly racist ending and be like, "that was wrong and bad," but once people get Redpilled, they don't do that at all. They twist themselves in knots justifying why things they loved that are antithetical to their current worldview are actually okay, because reasons. It really demonstrates the difference between the two types of thinking.
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Nov 6, 2018 22:24
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Sash! posted:I choose this time to vent something: there's also an element that won't let you critique something without immediately claiming that you have alterior bad motives. Like in The Last Jedi, I thought Holdo was terrible. You say that and you get pounced on because you get called a sexist and have to spend your efforts defending your personal integrity rather than discussing the events of a movie that led you to question the character itself.
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Nov 6, 2018 23:03
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Tunicate posted:lol at basing so much of your identity off a media franchise that anyone who dislikes it has to be some kind of repulsive other
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Nov 7, 2018 00:41
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Sash! posted:You can't even get to that point before you're already on the defensive about something that never happened.
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Nov 7, 2018 06:49
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The Bloop posted:Federation food replicators are extremely culturally sensitive and also have their own prime directive: No Pizza Rules
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Nov 8, 2018 21:32
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I finished my DS9 rewatch today and two tears were shed by the end, as everybody said goodbye. It was saccharine as gently caress, but they earned it.
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Nov 9, 2018 08:14
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I don't give a gently caress if it's prestige drama or just TNG again but not lovely like Voyager so long as it takes the gently caress place after Voyager. I'm so happy Patrick Steward is back so we can finally have the first non-prequel or reboot since Voyager ended its run. Why is Star Trek so afraid to answer the question "cool, then what happened?"
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Nov 12, 2018 21:06
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Julian reads as white even if he isn't. Like how Louis CK is Mexican.
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Nov 13, 2018 00:41
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Sweet Jesus, Trek has been "deconstructing" the utopian Federation for like 20 years now. I don't want the series to just endlessly be about the dark side of paradise. DS9 is my favorite Star Trek, but without Next Gen to set the table, it wouldn't have been interesting when DS9 upended it. We did that, and it was great. Now can we have cool space adventures that are cool and fun and solve moral dilemmas with our optimism? Also, stop making loving prequels.
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Nov 14, 2018 00:00
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I mean, maybe you want Star Trek to always be asking where Spock is any time he's not on screen, but I'm ready to move forward in time.
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Me too, and the novelty of it was enough to get my eighth-grade self through it and I never revisited it until I was older and, uh... yeah.
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