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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
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All I really know about the Orville is that my very earnest parents, who love them some ST (TNG and otherwise), and have nothing nice to say about Seth MacFarlane's other shows...are totally into the Orville.

So it must be doing something right in that vein.

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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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GoutPatrol posted:

I enjoy how Riker says the word "bone", referring to his trombone, of course.

PROTIP: If you're a dude, and you can grow a beard, and you want to pick up nerdy chicks...just be the guy dressed as Riker at the comic book convention speed dating event.

Pretty sure that dude was drowning in pussy by the end of the day.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

I love when cartoons do poo poo like that. The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy had a no-poo poo God Emperor of Dune episode that definitely flew right over the audience's heads.

There's an episode of Spongebob where, I'm not sure I remember exactly what was going on, but Sally is trying to track down a worm, touches the ground, and dramatically shouts, "WORM SIGN!"

I still laugh when I remember that.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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FreudianSlippers posted:

Pasolini is today most famous for Saló, an allegory for fascism based on a story by the Marquis de Sade, where a group of wealthy and powerful men (including a Bishop) force a group of teenagers to eat their own poop.

Honestly, the poop eating was one of the less disturbing parts of that film.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Pick posted:

DeSade's work has no redeeming qualities at all and is a pretty decent argument for obscenity laws. I'm not saying this arbitrarily, I read a bit of it, and I don't think anyone has ever claimed that any part of it is good from any literary standpoint or makes any point other than being a lot of hateful poo poo for no reason. It's not even like other lovely, bad books where you can get one or two quotes out of it, there's really nothing there except for violent and vulgar nonsense.

Violent, vulgar, and repetitive. I think the most annoying thing about trying to read Sade was finding out it's just reams of the same poo poo (literally) over and over.

Oh, but this time you're doing it to a boy, and he's upside down? Super.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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MariusLecter posted:

Did the episode where Gandhi gets addicted to pancake batter and blue housepaint mix age well?

Yes. The jokes about Mena Suvari’s giant forehead are a bit obscure, but the whole thing is still fantastic overall. Marilyn Manson doing the food pyramid song will always be great, and the corporate sellout fail plot is stellar.

I’m still amused that the 3 corporate hacks are played by the leads from Scrubs. “STICK IT IN YOUR FACE HOLE AND SLAM IT!” “MY KID WONT LOOK ME IN THE EYES ANYMORE!”

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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SiKboy posted:

For me its "Did you see the pool? They flipped the bitch!".

That's one of my go-tos, but my favorite was when I got fired from a job and had to do a walk of shame after being escorted out by security, and what popped into my head was Mr. Butlertron:

"Don't cry. Just make it to the parking garage."

The security guy got real weirded out when I started giggling as I walked away.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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I briefly dated a cousin of Corin Nemec in college, and now that dude’s last name causes me physical revulsion whenever I see it.

Yes, I do want fries with that, thanks. I’ll pull thru and pay for my food now.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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FilthyImp posted:

Ages ago someone in JET wrote up their experiences teaching high school (GaijinSmash.net?) and they were aghast at how casually some students were like "Hey Mr. American Teacherman, who is hotter X or Y because they both want to sleep with you. Wait why are you freaking out it's fine if they're 17 right". :stonklol:

I had a conversation with a guy teaching on the JET program in Japan a few years back. Years? Decades? Anyway, he was a tall British guy, and he was waiting in a queue for something, and two school aged girls behind him started speculating about the size of his dick. So he turned around and said, in Japanese, "It's real and it's spectacular" (or something to that effect).

He was also a fan of GTO, but the kind of fan who was like, "This poo poo's suuuper awkward, but as a teacher in Japan, I like the non-creepy stuff."

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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And through our cruelty
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My favorite auto tune story was from an interview with The Matrix, a production trio that was responsible for a lot of shiny 00s pop that wasn’t coming from Sweden (and also launched Katy Perry’s career, so take that as you wish). They had thrown Cher’s vocals thru the Antares vocal processor (I think, I could be mixing it up, but that’s the OG Auto Tune box) and they made her sound all weird and cyborgy...but were terrified to share it with her because WHO DOES THAT TO CHER?

She heard it anyway, and thought it was fuckin awesome, so that’s how Believe happened.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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mind the walrus posted:

Gaiman too seems like a cool dude, but it's hard to sanctify him when he's still making middling adaptations of his short stories for the BBC while his (ex?)-wife makes their marriage a public spectacle on social media.

Gaiman's said some suspect poo poo about the legality of child porn, and his trans opinions skew TERFy. I feel okay saying he's not that great.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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And through our cruelty
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Pick posted:

Gaiman hosed Amanda Palmer and decided that wasn't enough self-absorbed lovely human pussy and polyfucked erica moen as well

Oh god. I was at Palmer's book reading in Portland when Moen was on stage as part of the round-table, but did not know that tidbit :barf: In my defense, a friend is a fan, needed a ride, had a spare ticket, and bought me dinner.

mind the walrus posted:

I wouldn't be shocked but I genuinely don't know and it's not like I have any interest one way or the other. I'm just saying he's the kind of soft-spoken, gentle humanist with a slight intellectual bent that would absolutely get him deified alongside Bob Ross, Steve Irwin, and Fred Rogers if he had died in 2008.

That's fair! Will agree with that.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Kitty Pryde loves finding excuses to say the n-word. It lands exactly as flat every loving time:





She seems like the kind of person who would go out of her way to use niggardly in front of Storm and then give a lecture on its etymology with faux surprise that she didn't already know.

Also Magneto turns good because at one point he's about to kill her and sees her Star of David necklace and suddenly realizes that if he kills everyone on Earth, Jews will die too, which is pretty lol.

I'd like to point out that I'm in no way excusing that stupidity, but I have to wonder how many people did try to excuse it with, "Excuse me, but you do know that she's Jewish."

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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purple death ray posted:

OK so the conversation had moved to Keanu so I was thinking there was a weed themed sequel to Speed that had an impact in Japan

I’m bookmarking this post so if I get a fever, I can refer back to it and hopefully make that part of my fever dreams.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

Take 50mg of diphenhydramine (Benadryl, Tylenol PM, etc) and put on some futurama while you’re falling asleep the next time you’re running a good fever, your brain will cook up some delightful stuff for you.

I once had a raging case of some stomach bug that came with a 103 degree fever. I’d been reading Scott Pilgrim that week, and had just uncovered a box of old GamePro magazines, so I was feverishly convinced I had a gaming mag from the past that had a feature on an upcoming Scott Pilgrim game (this was before the movie; there was no game at the time), and somehow GamePro was able to see the future.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
Original Wicker Man. Still coming out of sedation and on so many pain killers.

Followed the next night by trying not to blow out my stitches seeing Snakes on a Plane opening night.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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MrUnderbridge posted:

Tab of acid and Secret of NIMH. In a theater. In the afternoon.

The drive home in broad daylight was interesting, to say the least.

Oh no, I used to watch that over and over as a kid, and revisiting it as an adult made me wonder what the hell was wrong with me. Parts of Pinocchio made me more freaked out than literal actual rat torture and cancer ridden ghost owls and rat-people getting shanked and bleeding.

That said, one of my favorite songs I’ve ever done features a good bit of NIMH sampling. Maybe I should finish it for the protest song challenge...

Speaking of Jodorowsky, El Topo while coming up on DXM was a huge mistake. Like the person upthread who mentioned Heathers is just as bonkers when you’re sober, it did not help to rewatch it and find out I didn’t really miss or misinterpret anything. The guy with the toothpick pyramid who speaks with eagle screams NOT being a dream startled the gently caress out of me.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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DeafNote posted:

Edit: also seeing Movie 3 in a 3movie marathon was the second dumbest cinema Idea I ever had. (The first being to go to a a Jurassic World midnight Marathon)

I went to the college where Jack Horner, the inspiration for Alan Grant, taught paleontology. They held the Jurassic Park III premiere at a downtown theater in Bozeman, and a few of my friends who studied under Horner were invited.

At the after party, one of them got into a conversation with a producer.

Producer: So, how did you like it?
Friend: Well...it was short.
Producer: Yeah...it was definitely short.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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DrBouvenstein posted:



Edit: And for any superhero you see do something odd, or die, substitute "Life Model Decoy" from SHIELD.

"I'm not Xena, I'm Lucy Lawless!"

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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sweeperbravo posted:

Does Clone High hold up? I loved the hell out of the show when it was on but then it vanished and I never sought it out after it was done airing.

Clone High holds up like woah. Too bad India got mad about the depiction of Ghandi and torpedoed it.

Amazon.ca used to have the whole thing on DVD. I loaned mine to a guy and, for reasons, never got it back...last I checked, the YouTube rips are behind a paywall.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

Also a major role in Wolf of Wall Street which got him an Oscar nom.

I didn't see Maniac but it seems to have been well regarded?

Also the inexplicable Super Bowl commercial for Coke making an energy drink where apparently he’s mission critical to Martin Scorsese’s social life?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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The “best” part of House is that it went on for so long that it inevitably touched on some medical topic someone is an expert on. For me, that’s endometriosis and DXM abuse.

Both of those episodes are comedy gold. No, endo won’t break loose and fly around your body like super cancer. Yes, it has been found in the brain. No, that’s uncommon as gently caress, and it wouldn’t happen in the space of hours. Yes, DXM will make you look dumb to other people while on it, but while it is a dissociative, it’s not the sort of thing that will make a depressed smart person into a happy stupid person. And that happy stupid person won’t be a contributing member of society, because he’ll be ataxic as gently caress and too uncoordinated to do anything useful.

There’s a doctor who blogged the veracity of every episode. Highly recommend if you enjoy House but side eye the medicine they’re allegedly practicing on it.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Zedd posted:

Didn't house at some point found a legit way to manage his leg problem, not perfectly healed but able to walk around and stuff. And it wasn't with even more drugs, but he missed being miserable.

Yeah, briefly.

from Wikipedia's Season 3 Synopsis posted:

Early in the season, House temporarily regains the use of his leg due to ketamine treatment after he was shot in the season two finale. Later in the season, he leaves a stubborn patient in an exam room with a thermometer in his rectum. Because House is unwilling to apologize, the patient, who turns out to be a police detective, starts an investigation around House's Vicodin addiction.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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I lived with people who ran a Magic shop, held multiple WotC sponsored events, and were high-level tournament judges or whatever. Caveat: I don't play and don't give a gently caress about it, but I am a nerd.

The story literally never came up. There'd be some random mention of something like, "Holy poo poo, I'm so hype to see what new cards they have for Ravinica!" or whatever when a release was coming up, but for a bunch of lore dorks, these two never even remotely hinted that there was a worthwhile story in the card game they based their livelihood off of.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Pick posted:

HOT TAKE: roasts aren't funny and never were

the only funny roast moment was greg giraldo roasting the roasters for using the permissive structure of the roast to be homophobic

I liked it when a bunch of local hip hop guys did a show where they positive-roasted each other by having a compliments-only rap battle :unsmith:

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Inspector Gesicht posted:

For every George Miller ageing gracefully there are ten Ridley Scotts chugging stupid-pills and making Alien sequels.

Ridley Scott didn't make an Alien sequel until 2017?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Did Roger Zelazny do anything weird or bad beyond garden variety sexism?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Bk. posted:

The issue of old-timey rockstars being extremely open about their pedophilia back in the days when that kind of poo poo was still an inherent part of the whole rockstar persona to many people has been brought up in this thread before (at least I assume it was this thread; gross old dudes touching kids comes up a lot on SA). Many iconic artists have died with their image fully intact, with many eager to just forget that, e.g., Bowie hosed kids. Even the ones that haven't had the decency of dying yet, like the Rolling Stones or Iggy Pop (at least I think he's not dead yet) are still mostly revered by the public.

Ugh, yeah. I have an art history education (most of you probably already know that, because much like vegans, art historians can't shut up about what they studied), and was thoroughly grossed out reading this article this morning:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jun/17/van-gogh-and-gauguin-letter-brothel-visit-sells-210000

quote:

A letter written by two of the greatest artists of the 19th century, Vincent van Gogh and Paul Gauguin, about their visits to French brothels has been bought for the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam for €210,600 (£189,000).

The correspondence, previously held in private hands, has been described as “exceptional”. The two painters entwine descriptions of their experiences living together in Arles, Provence, with claims of certainty that their work is leading a “great renaissance of art”.

I just...I don't even have the words for this poo poo anymore. Reading about so many fancy lads running around loving indiscriminately and calling themselves the greatest king shits to ever live while denying that women/POCs had any worthwhile input on art (while rampantly ripping off everything made by anyone who wasn't them) has finally pushed me to the point of just being loving angry all the time. Thanks, I hate it.

Like, gently caress you, Gauguin, you stole all your poo poo from loving Southeast Asia, can we stop pretending the dude painting nubile naked brown people has anything worthwhile to say about art?

It was also fun when I was doing MMA, and had found a very POC/queer accepting gym where everyone treated everyone like a teammate...and then later found out our head coach was loving high schoolers when he was in his 50s. Like, can someone in this world not be a loving giant disappointment just ONCE?

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Iggy Pop is alive and in great shape. I've never heard about him loving kids though.

Bad news...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n3k6XRQ8s

(Kidding, I can't remember anything about Iggy Pop's sexcapades, but I couldn't resist a Tank Girl reference.)

Der Kyhe posted:

Pablo Picasso was a massive shithead by many measurements, but if I remember correctly he kept the kiddie-fiddling at a minimal acceptable level for an early 20th century great artist. His thing was abusing women and ignoring his own children.

It's not always kiddy diddling, but there are a lot of abusers and rapists in art history. Makes a person want to invent a time machine and go hang with Artemesia Gentileschi...

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Mister No posted:

who else but Spacey? it isn't Ansel is it?

It's Ansel.

Sorry.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

The book is rubbish and doesn’t even have a proper ending,the main character is about to get his revenge that the whole book has been hinging on....and then someone tells him he can’t have his revenge and he’s like “ok”.
The end.

poo poo.

It is, however, a book based on historical frontier figures. I guess Jim Bridger never ascended to the same stature as Davey Crockett or whoever, but it’s not just some stupid story someone made up of whole cloth.

Not defending it, tho. I wanted more out of both the book and the movie, cuz I’m from that area and I like it when we have good representations of our history in film and literature.

Blew my fuckin mind when I watched Legends of the Fall as a kid, and Brad Pitt’s all talking like Helena, Montana in the 20s is like Paris or some other fancy city.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Four-Eyes posted:

Yeah, ha.

Scott Pilgrim threw me off for a similar reason. One of the characters randomly calls Scott a retard, and it stands out like a sore thumb. The character is otherwise presented as simply grumpy.

I think that might be just about the time everyone started to lean back from using the R-word.

Bit of inside baseball, I used to be involved in the same art community as Bryan Lee O'Malley before and around when Scott Pilgrim got published as a comic. Another artist who I won't name (not for any important reason, it's just a weird detail that isn't relevant to her current career) was working as a caretaker for people with trisomy 21 at the time, and would quietly call people out whenever they'd drop "retarded" as an insult. I know that was when most of us started checking ourselves and thinking, "You know...that actually isn't cool, and we should stop."

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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purple death ray posted:

The movie ends a little differently from the comic since they were made simultaneously, but I don't remember exactly what the difference is

Summary of the last volume of Scott Pilgrim posted:

Scott awakens in a desert, where he encounters Ramona. They reconcile and return to the club, where Scott confronts Gideon inside Ramona's subspace and encourages Ramona to overcome Gideon's influence. When Scott witnesses Gideon berate Envy, he realizes he has been no better than Gideon in his past relationships, causing him to gain the Power of Understanding. Scott and Ramona unite, defeat Gideon together, and decide to give their relationship another chance. In an epilogue, Scott works as a co-chef with Stephen, who reveals he is gay and dating Joseph. Scott and Kim start a new band, and Knives leaves to attend university. Scott and Ramona affirm their desire to face the challenges of a relationship together, and walk hand-in-hand into a subspace door.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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PHIZ KALIFA posted:

did you also know andy helms?

Peripherally. I was friends with Nied.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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For once the, “no, it’s the children who are wrong” screencap could be used sincerely.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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sassassin posted:

That's just Seth McFarlane negging Mila Kunis.

Lacey Chabert dodged a bullet on that one.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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Jedit posted:

Liz Phair had a song on her debut album Exile in Guyville about continually getting hosed and dumped since she was 12. Exile in Guyville routinely enters into "top 100 albums of the 90s" lists, has sold more than half a million copies and enjoyed two anniversary re-releases, most recently in 2018.

Veruca Salt also had a song on their first release that's extremely from the POV of the girl in those types of songs.

Veruca Salt - Spiderman '79 posted:

You're so nice, you tie me in a web
And cradle me 'till dawn
You're so deadly that I can see your breath
Beneath me when you're gone
You're so windy, I'd like to pin you down
And tack you to the wall

Spider Sunday, you blaze up from the south
With oil on your hands
I'm streaked in grease and grime and idle mouths
You've spoiled all my plans

I can't take more of that

Tiny truckstop, you lay me in a towel
And savor me like a lamb
You smell of corduroy and lemon drops
And reds pulled from a can
I dream in black and white
I've long forgot exactly, who I am, am

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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My mom was legit upset when they replaced Five O’Clock World as the theme to the Drew Carey show. NGL, the song slaps and I miss oldies radio stations all of a sudden.

I would also like to point out that the first episode my parents watched was an extended fart joke (which included the post-credits sonogram baby farting), and that’s what made them into Drew Carey fans. We’re simple folk.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

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DrBouvenstein posted:

Even Jeff Foxworthy had a show.

Not only that, but it had both Jonathan Lipnicki AND Haley Joel Osment before either of them were really "main stream" famous for Jerry McGuire and The Sixth Sense, respectively.

Edit: Well maybe Lipnicki was around the same time I guess, not before Jerry McGuire? Maybe slightly after? hard to know what with TV and movie shooting and release schedules.

And Bill "Here's Yer Sign" Engvall had a show, with future Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence playing one of his kids.

As you do.

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Oct 8, 2010

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sweeperbravo posted:

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