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No one likes the sequels. It's crazy how little any of the big Star Wars threads gave a poo poo when the recent trailer dropped. Well, except the one over in Book Barn and they were just going crazy about all the various EU ships they saw in the trailer.
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Oct 29, 2019 00:45
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teagone posted:Snoke's Praetorian Guard costuming and weaponry. You can't be serious. They're visually indistinct and boring (red and red with no textures will do that) and whatever material the costumes are made out of looks way too cheap for such a big-budget film. They're like the set-filling action figures where they're the same body with a slightly different head and different weapon.
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Oct 29, 2019 14:44
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teagone posted:I like what I like, and I think they looked great Well, at least we've drilled down to your actual thought: TLJ has 'great' 'production design' because it has... a cool take on faceless mooks.
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Oct 29, 2019 14:56
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They were a cool take on faceless mooks.
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I feel like there's going to be a lot of Episode 9 summaries that are basically like 'It's the best we could've hoped for,  .'
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Oct 31, 2019 22:22
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Schwarzwald posted:'It's as good as we're getting, 9.7/10 "If only Abrams had directed all three films" VS "If only Johnson had done Episode 9, too"
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Nov 1, 2019 02:10
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Rotten Tomatoes is especially stupid once you realize they'll put positive reviews down as negative and vice versa, especially if it's a 'controversial' film.
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Nov 5, 2019 06:37
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Didn't Disney replace the guy who did all of these great SFX?
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Nov 12, 2019 08:04
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kidkissinger posted:Holy moly is the music for The Mandalorian bad The whole thing looks like it has a way lower budget than the trailers did.
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Nov 13, 2019 01:25
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for a hell of a trip check the people who are arguing that killing jawas is okay and good but how dare the neimodians have an accent lmao
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Nov 20, 2019 00:04
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nemesis_hub posted:Exactly! The same people who acted like Jar Jar was the most shockingly racist character ever are perfectly fine with Finn. But Finn is constantly afraid, stumbling around, the butt of jokes. He’s the only main character to be the object of sight gags that make him look foolish. When he takes the initiative, he either blunders into survival or is bailed out by someone else. He has no real arc despite having a background that should be full of pathos and significance. It's even better because Boyega himself has said he was sick of Finn being "a comedic goofy dude who never gets stuff done."
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Nov 20, 2019 07:33
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Also, the Stormtroopers by the time of the OT aren't clones. They don't have Morrison's voice.
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Nov 22, 2019 01:31
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Williams apparently didn't finish scoring the film until a few days ago, if that means anything in regards to reshoot rumors.
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Nov 24, 2019 00:08
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Grendels Dad posted:I wonder what this trology's Avengers Assemble moment will be. I hate calling it that, but there is bound to be an iconic moment in the next movie that kind of ties a nice iconic bow around the trilogy, mostly by pandering to nostalgia but also feeling like an appropriate climax. TLJ kinda hosed it up by having RotJ's throne room scene and then have it end in another sequel hook, now Disney might have to come up with something new. And they are... not very good at that. probably something with force ghosts. maybe force luke and force leia showing up with rey or some kind of group shot looking out over the twin sun desert
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Nov 25, 2019 01:05
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TLJ is just bad film, practically from the very first shot of the opening crawl. The First Order reigns, what? The opening 'oh no' bit sucks, and it leads immediately into Poe's 'Yo momma' joke whereupon he effortlessly disarms an entire Star Destroyer. Of course, this is only made possible by the fact that Hux acts like a complete moron. No TIEs are launched until it's too late and the Dreadnaught fires on the abandoned base as opposed to the cruiser that's waiting in orbit. So, this leads to the whole bombing scene which is a mess because nothing has actually been set up. Like, who sortied them all? Poe? If Leia wants to pull them back, how come she only tries talking to Poe? Don't they not have hyperdrives? All Rebel fighters we've seen have hyperdrives and the bombers are supposed to invoke World War 2 strategic bombers, so they probably should, but the film needs this tense 'will they land in time' scene that comes right out of Battlestar Galactica. That's another big issue. Johnson is cribbing from Battlestar Galactica. What's worse is that he's cribbing from 33, one of the best episodes. The conflict between Holdo and Poe is basically an inept version of the conflict between Roslin and Adama. The reason for this is that Poe was originally going to go with Finn to the casino planet, but Rian changed this because 'they felt like the same character.' This is quite obviously a lie on his part, or a reveal that he's stupid as hell, because it feels far more likely that Disney wanted to nix the Poe/Finn shipping memes. So, the whole chase plot, the mutiny, Rose, Holdo... those are all late additions to the script. No wonder they don't really add anything to the film. I haven't even mentioned the inanity of the First Order tracking device. Not only is it weird that Finn and Rose somehow intuit where it is and how it works with no former knowledge that the technology even exists, they then go on to outline that: 1. Snoke's ship is tracking them. 2. You can't attack Snoke's ship because even if you destroy it, the other Destroyers will just turn on their tracking devices. 3. But Snoke's ship is the only one tracking them right now. 4. So, they need to sneak onto Snoke's ship and disable it and flee to hyperspace before anyone realizes. Then, despite being involved in World's Wildest Police Space Chase, they just... hyperspace to another planet without issue. The First Order doesn't even send anyone to follow them. Why didn't the Resistance just flee in small ships then? I mean, that is basically Holdo's plan... Then there's the whole Casino Bight thing where, like, it all falls apart because Rose and Finn parked their ship illegally. And they team up with DJ for no real reason who comes along with them to break into Snoke's ship for no real reason who then betrays them simply to subvert, like, Lando. Oh, and they free the space horses but not the space child slaves. The Luke and Rey stuff is mostly okay. It's clearly the part of the film Johnson was actually interested in. But it's still filled with weirdness. Rey says the First Order will take over the whole galaxy in two weeks - well how does she know that? The opening crawl implies they already have. The ending, maybe a day later, implies it too. The Luke stuff suffers not because he tried to kill Kylo or whatever but because the most important storytelling component of the ST, the fall of Ben Solo and Luke's Jedi Academy, is this vital moment... that's rendered entirely through flashbacks. At this point, it's clear that Episode 7 should've been about that. What's more is that what little stuff TFA established that was interesting is retcon'd by TLJ, including the attack on Luke's Jedi Academy. What's funny is that some comic is coming out that retcons it again. Virtually everything from TFA that might've been interesting is changed between TFA and TLJ. Fans often pick up on this by how Snoke goes from unconcerned with Ren's failure to openly berating him and blasting him with force lightning in the space of like, oh, maybe five minutes. The big flashy Praetorian fight is a mess of messed-up choreography and obvious storytelling changes, such as Rey getting stabbed in the back but it edited in post. There's so much stuff about this film that was changed during development. Rey getting stabbed, the opening 'oh no' shot, Holdo and Rose existing... And Kylo Ren, the one interesting character the ST has, the one character the film has developed in something of an interesting fashion as someone who woke up to find Luke's laser sword at his throat... Well, Luke's big moment is to appear as a hologram, mock him (remember, Luke tried to kill him and is supposed to be remorseful about it), and then basically trolls him. And then Luke dies. And the Resistance is basically dead, but that's okay because Leia says they have everything they need. Like the Jedi texts, which Yoda implied were useless old books that weren't necessary to restoring the Jedi Order. So, he burnt the tree down. But, psych, Rey actually took them... off-screen at some point. Why? Who knows. It's just a weird mess from start to finish.
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Nov 27, 2019 23:11
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McCloud posted:what happened at the Academy, In TFA it's implied through Rey's vision, that Kylo Ren was kicked out of the Academy and returned with his red lightsaber, new identity, and Knights of Ren to burn the place down. Now, I guess it's just a weird vision of Kylo Ren killing some nobody. In TLJ, we're told he was a student and Luke contemplating murdering him (to the extent he drew and ignited his saber) is what kicked it all into motion, whereupon Ren killed or converted the other students. In some new comic, apparently the thing with Luke happens and Ren is attacked by Luke's students who attempt to chase him down and murder him. So much for already being corrupted by Snoke, I guess. Only the first one really ties into Kylo's 'Jedi Killer' title. It's not that TFA didn't have ideas, it's that Abrams concealed them in mystery boxes. Horizon Burning fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 27, 2019 |
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Nov 27, 2019 23:47
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theblackw0lf posted:This simultaneously impressed me (for how tragic Anakin’s story is in TPM) and angered me in how poorly it was told). Reading this makes me more sympathetic to Anakin saying “gently caress the jedi” That certainly is the story of the prequels, yes.
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Nov 28, 2019 07:26
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I have to point out how loving bad that 'this is the last page in the story of skywalker' line of sheev's is. since when has he been this satanic nemesis of the skywalker line
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Nov 29, 2019 04:35
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PT6A posted:We have no idea what the actual context of that line will be in the film, though. Getting pissed off about how bad you imagine a film might be based on a line from a trailer makes no sense. Go away JJ.
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Nov 29, 2019 04:42
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Prince Myshkin posted:Making the Empire sympathizers the scrappy underdog resistance and our heroes the representatives of a fledgling new republic dealing with an existential crisis would have been an actually interesting inversion of Star Wars mythos that made sense as a sequel trilogy, so it shouldn't be surprising Abrams and Disney twisted their plot into a pretzel to do the exact opposite. this is what we would've got had TFA gone into production post-trump
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Nov 29, 2019 11:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-_PX5WFBc
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Dec 2, 2019 07:51
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Bleck posted:I think the people who believe that's what the movie is about are just congenitally incapable of engaging with any of the scenes that feature the characters who are not little nazi boys Well, no. When TLJ came out, literally everyone with a positive take was saying that line was the whole point of the film. Hence the depiction of Luke and so on and so on.
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Dec 2, 2019 08:55
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Pollyanna posted:The more I watch the original trilogy, the more confused I am about people who claim Luke can't possibly be hotheaded and overconfident and become angry and bitter when he fails. Luke doesn't act like a stereotypical golden knight at all - for almost every second of the original trilogy that I've seen he's brash and excitable, and gets frustrated easily. Luke's TLJ character isn't so strange in that light. maybe if you hadn't been watching rotj with a commentary track you wouldn't have missed the big defining scene in the throne room
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Dec 16, 2019 02:19
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codo27 posted:Funny how Sheev turned into a shrunken hag after only a few seconds of absorbing lightning but Luke comes away unscathed after a Chernobyl esque dose I figured that Mace (and Sheev) got something more powerful than Luke's dose, which I assume was just to make him suffer as much as possible.
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Dec 16, 2019 03:50
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jivjov posted:I just want to conclude by saying that overall this is quite possibly going to remain my least favorite Star Wars movie. this is absolutely damning
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Dec 21, 2019 15:44
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Yaws, are you doing a bit
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Dec 21, 2019 16:02
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I'm the attributing it to Lucas when he ditched the premiere and hasn't said a single word about it or the movie lmao
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Dec 21, 2019 16:08
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Captain Jesus posted:Kylo seeing Rey turn to the dark side when they touch hands, Rey seeing Kylo turn good. am i the only one on the planet who understood this as the two of them, essentially, seeing the fight against snoke's guards and both coming to different conclusions? rey sees kylo fighting the guards and assumed he turned good. kylo sees it and assumes rey joined with him.
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Dec 24, 2019 12:22
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teagone posted:I think TLJ is the only Disney SW film that George openly commented on in positive light, saying it was beautifully made. rogue one's the only one that got a positive comment, actually. beautifully made is up there with TFA's 'it's what the fans want' as far as backhanded compliments go
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Jan 2, 2020 00:41
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Detective No. 27 posted:I could have sworn when they announced Rian Johnson is getting a trilogy that it would take place in a different galaxy and a different time era specifically avoid any and all characters and settings from the main series. that is what they said, yes. the rumor from a source who was accurate about TLJ's early production that that johnson's trilogy would be episodes 10, 11, 12. however, the response to TLJ, Solo and (i guess) now the new one put an end to that
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Jan 5, 2020 03:35
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Pretty good posted:lmao forever at how VIII was gonna have this whole elaborate fight/chase scene with Ren and the knights set on Achto and they shot the whole thing and didn't use it https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/05/rumor-on-kylo-ren-and-more-knights-of-ren-filming-photos-for-star-wars-episode-viii.html it's a crime that we'll never get an accurate look into what went on with these films. it seems like they were being changed extensively during production as a matter of course.
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Jan 8, 2020 11:16
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the line is just "Power! Unlimited POWER!" anyway smdh that's how you rewrite it to be better, too
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Jan 13, 2020 01:58
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The RotS novel is pretty interesting but it's basically an entire reimagining and rewrite of the story from dialogue to characterization and motivations.
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Jan 14, 2020 01:29
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Taear posted:Is it actually good? Not that I want to read it, I'm just curious. For what it is, it's pretty good. Probably the best work in the old (and new) EUs. They cut a fair amount from the movie for the novel (I think the whole of Kashyyk?) and every single line of dialogue is different. I feel like the novel is closer to what the fans were hoping for and expecting. Anakin and Obi-Wan are swashbuckling best friends, Anakin is a cool hero but secretly insecure, Palpatine is such a powerful Sith that he blocks Jedi prescience, the fault of the Jedi is that they didn't act sooner, Yoda laments he should've listened to Qui-Gon, and so on. Like ungulateman says, it takes some of the metaphors and makes them literal. There's a bit where Yoda realizes he can't win against Sidious because he lost the war before he was ever born. In the films, this is basically the corruption of the Republic. In the novel, it's because Palpatine is a new type of Sith who has been planning to win the war against the Jedi for millennia.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:27
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No, but that he's just the latest in a long line of 'new' Sith who've been playing a very long game to catch the Jedi in a trap and destroy them.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:38
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Infidelicious posted:Bad scene: fans: show us two bad-rear end jedi at the height of their power also fans: no not like that
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Jan 15, 2020 01:45
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This isn't actually true though; style is the substance of a motion picture. The narrative of the sequels is largely bad due to the horrendous editing, whereas the prequels are very well-edited. The coherency of Lucas' "vision" is discernible in the coherency of the editing, and the editing is what helps the vision cohere into a final product. They're interrelated. It's interesting, yeah. I'm reminded of how stuff was cut out of the Obi-Wan and Anakin duel (a sequence where Obi-Wan fights with both sabers) and you can't really tell, beyond the fact that I think MacGregor is holding Anakin's saber in one shot. Meanwhile, you look at the sequels and it's really obvious how badly edited they were. Heaps of ADR, knives being digitally removed, whatever.
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Jan 16, 2020 07:44
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lol the admin team actually got trolled by pick and the blockbuster video crew
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Jan 22, 2020 01:50
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Calibanibal posted:Making a separate star wars subforum specifically to avoid SuperMechaGodzilla is extremely funny to me "This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!"
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ungulateman posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzujpplt-0M This video made me realize there's a shot in TLJ when Finn pratfalls into space horse poop. 
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