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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Zane posted:

those are both bad in tlj. the first is bcz of poe's misjudgment. the second is bcz of finn's misjudgment. they're both misjudgments because they both enact the classic star wars morality that tlj criticizes at every turn: in which the best 'good' thing is always to destroy the closest 'evil' thing. the alternative tlj morality involves rethinking the whole approach. as rose suggests: 'not to destroy what you hate but save the thing that you love'

but holdo destroys the thing she hates idgi

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









star war beta max posted:

I wonder how many new likable characters will be introduced in this new Star War.

White guy in a beige jacket. He squints.
White woman with brown hair tied up in a pony tail. Types on a computer and says "I used to think we were fighting for something that matters, now I see that we're just.....fighting"
White kids with force powers...........power to fly through space and atmosphere???
a cgi motion captured purple octopus voice acted by the fat kid from stranger things
a black girl who discovers Finn trying to escape again because hes still a worthless coward... and they have a romance that is allowed to develop because China didn't like the miscegenation of the previous film.
A new robot, full cgi, voiced by woody harrilson and mo-caped by andy circus. its called "2-KW3L" and it loves eating tacos. Revealed to be C3P0s son.
A white guy with a robot arm and PTSD. He wears a dark brown coat and the camera allways zooms up on him real close and he fights with ninja throwing stars that he spins like fidget spinners.

:burger:

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









star war beta max posted:

Watto wasn't actually real he was just a cgi cartoon.

If you think about it none of us are actually real we are just cgi cartoons in other peoples heads

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









I really am genuinely tired of all these star wars

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









star war beta max posted:

That's OK, Star Wars Fatigue is a normal condition experienced by many, otherwise healthy men and women just like you. To counteract this embarrassing problem, expert recommend viewing the new star wars trailer 3 times daily.

but doctor i am the new star wars trailer

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

While your memeology isn’t off the mark, I’d point out that it took a good 15 years for prequel memes to become a thing. Before that, the hate for the prequels overshadowed the “awww, I guess they were flawed but original” perception they have today

That perception lives in a few threads in a single relentlessly self-hypnotising subforum afaict

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Poe should have learnt that only suicide bombing is acceptable when winning major military victories, not regular bombing

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Mooey Cow posted:

When you think about, Obi-wan drops his clothes when he dies, right? So then how come, as a ghost, he ain't nude? Where his Obi-wang at? :thunk:

It surrounds us, and penetrates us. It binds the universe together.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Chomp8645 posted:

They didn't really have a "plan" it seems, but JJ at least had ideas about where he thought things should go based on what he'd set up. He passed that information to Rian, who promptly said "didn't read lol" and I guess just willfully threw everything off the rails because he thought it would be funny.

Tbh, unceremoniously dumpstering a franchise your bosses paid $4 billion for is pretty funny. Probably not a great career move though.

I think it's objectively hilarious, and if he'd turned down the iconoclasm to like 40% instead of 95% it would have been a classic. There are actually a bunch of neat bits in the film, it just gets destroyed by fridge logic and the obsessive need to jam every interaction into the procrustean bed of The Theme, chopping off the bits that don't fit.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









skasion posted:

the tooth

the tooth

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TOOTH

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









According to cinema discuss o captain America is a rapist

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Th theory is elaborate and extremely stupid

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









naem posted:

is there such thing as “straight to dvd” still because, sure seems like a good strat for disney what with all the care and thought put into this tired franchise

Streaming

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Vim Fuego posted:

How do you get a gang tag? Buy it? PM a mod?

buy a new avatar for yourself, paste in your existing av and append the picture to the bottom.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









jimmyjams posted:

Fart Fart Stinks

Don't sign your posts

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









VADER (staring straight out at audience) luke, I am your father.

LUKE (expressionless) you are my father and I am your son.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









NavanaSokarad posted:

im of the firm belief that the word "Skywalker" is ment for those that are gifted with the force. so in the end there will be a new generation of jedi that conquer the sith in the end.

:goleft:

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Bogus Adventure posted:

Say what you will about the Fast Order, they work fast

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









As long as i can remember, I've wanted to be a robot

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Chomp8645 posted:

Goddamn this poo poo sucks.


This part in particular is offensively stupid.

I started scrolling and my fingers were aching a little like they wanted to yawn but didn't know how

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









does anyone actually doubt that plot summary bc it looks totally plausible to me

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









razamataza posted:

poo poo we almost got a full page without chomp8645 chiming in about these films he hates

e: can a mod tell me how many times chomp has posted in star wars threads?

nope

i mean we could count the posts, but there's no mod console with post numbers

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Mooey Cow posted:

You can click on the question mark under a user's avatar to see all their posts in a thread.

Yeah, you can do it just as well as we can

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









lofi posted:

It's so frustrating that there are endless ways to do interesting things with SW, but everyone involved seems to take every opportunity to make it worse. For all I hated TLJ, it felt like it at least tried to shake things up.

I'm not saying it did it well, but "how can you make film 3 about killing snoke if I kill him now" is a pretty good troll move. I can't imagine how pissed Disney must have been, and I'm amazed they didn't shitcan the thing.

9 looks like it's trying to make 8 make sense, which should be good for a laugh.

i liked TLJ, though with some caveats, and the three people I went with loved it. It fell apart in retrospect but it has enough great visuals and moments to be an enjoyable watch imo, for all the director's hard-on for slaughtering ever sacred cow he can find is a bit wearying.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









CharlestonJew posted:

Hey mom I know were slaves and all and life really sucks, but I made this robot that does nothing but bitch and moan and nitpick! Don't you love it mom hey wait why are you giving me to these weird old guys wait gently caress

This explains everything

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









I really am insanely tired of all these Star Wars

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









bradzilla posted:

Wow that last trailer did loving nothing for me.

I know right? I remember getting quite pumped at the TLJ one (and enjoyed the movie, for all its flaws)

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Wasn't the Alliance basically a beach volleyball team with a few subs by the end of ep8?

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Durf posted:

oh man now I want to see Nicolas Winding Refn do a neon and synth soaked space opera

Blade runner 2049 with blaster pistols

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









revwinnebago posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about?

Luke re-founded the Jedi Academy, and battled the Yuuzhan Vong.

:colbert:

Gesumdheit

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Gutcruncher posted:

It’s great how Luke just sorta died at the end. Just cuz. It mattered so little and came so out of nowhere that the actor didn’t even realize he was getting killed.

No? It was the least expectation subverty part of the movie, one last fatal effort to save the good guys after refusing to do anything for the rest of the movie. I really liked luke in TLJ.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Yeah but he had to dl the app, reset his password... It all adds up

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Gutcruncher posted:

It never felt like a fatal last stand or anything. It felt like he decided to do good and have a character moment then practically unrelated just kinda died.

So did yoda and obeewan

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

People keep doing these very particular and annoying things in this thread like saying singular "Star War" and quoting "I sure am tired of all these Star Wars" and referring to the Emperor as "Sheev", and I don't know what all these are referencing but can we all knock it off cause goddamn is it tedious

So is it a stah wah or a stor wor? There are arguments on each side

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Kuato posted:

Rogue one is good. Not gonna write a novel explaining why, lol at the idea of ever winning someone to a position online.

Ya it was decent and I liked that they won, and then sat on the beach bein chums while the world blew up

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Randarkman posted:

Wrong. Not about Star Wars being majority garbage, but if you think Rogue One is better than Jedi (which admittedly takes a backseat to ANH and especially Empire) then I don't know even.

Only two points are necessary to illustrate this
1. Has an overall engaging narrative involving characters (who were well established already by the two previous superior movies) with clear motivations that you care about.
2. Has a better space battle.

return of the jedi was borderline nonsensical

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Randarkman posted:

It has its clear flaws and is a pretty messy movie. But it's got some really great segments in it and the overall plot of the movie, destroy the Death Star and redeem Darth Vader is pretty good even if the former is rehased.

It's also got Jabba and the Emperor.

It's a waaaaay more enjoyable movie than Rogue One, and is a movie where you can actually enjoy more than just the last ~30 minutes of fan service Star Wars porn.

eh. it's bad, but it's fine if you like it. yub yub, as they say.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









SidneyIsTheKiller posted:

This strikes me as a very contemporary view of what 'works' that you're trying to apply to a 1983 movie. Maybe that's exctly what you mean to do, which is fine, but a lot of things really were different at the time.

There wasn't an immediate backlash to Return of the Jedi. In fact, it had a prerty gangbusters reception and the fact it managed to outgross Empire which already had a remarkable hold for a sequel (generally sequels were expected to do about half the business of their predecessors at the time) was pretty jaw-dropping. Throughout the 80s and 90s the consensus would form that ROTJ was the weakest of the bunch, but initially the three movies were quite equal in regard, with everyone having their favorites. Honestly it was probably Empire that had the most contentious reputation during the trilogy's heyday - people hadn't quite made up their minds whether its lack of resolution was a strength or a weakness.

The reprise of Tatooine and Death Star weren't seen as nostalgia so much as beinging the series full circle; people knew this was a finale and saw it as wrapping things up and revisiting things because this was the last chance to do so.

The very casual suggestion that the trilogy would have been better served with two or three more installments is super-modern - you really couldn't take the audience's patience for such an extended movie series for granted. It's true that Rocky and Star Trek managed to rack 'em up, but they were also the butt of a lot of jokes for being seemingly neverending. Even Lucas's own ambitions for a trilogy of trilogies were considered more aspirational than anything and I doubt it surprised anyone when he eventually decided to try wrapping it up by the third installment.

If you told people about the Marvel Cinemati Universe back then it definitely would've blown some minds, and the very idea might have been considered ridiculous and tasteless.

i saw it when it came out, as a kid, and we thought it was a bit weak, fwiw. Reviews were mixed. I think the idea that ESB is the clear best is what's grown over time.

sebmojo fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Oct 28, 2019

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









That's like a joke but not as funny

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Rutibex posted:

yeah, its basically the new twilight zone

But for phones

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