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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Jonah Galtberg posted:

bolt bad, i am very astute

I don't know, I think we all need to see the article before we can cast judgement.

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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug
Donald Trump and Boris Johnson set a very, very low bar for how to handle the pandemic, and at the very least Scott Morison didn't trip over it.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

it might win them an election

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug
why are you booing her, she's right

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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JBP posted:

What's a simp

chud language

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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bowmore posted:

let’s gooooo second wave :unsmigghh:

i am ready to become nurgles new herald

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

JBP posted:

I will never read a dril tweet

Buy the book that is a collection of dril tweets, that seems more your kind of thing.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

Anidav posted:

Alright I can't really defend this poo poo anymore.

Labor has brain worms.

The young people in it are nice enough though

loving hell

now the healing can begin

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

Endman posted:

Reagan has a couple of speeches that were delivered well and that matters a lot more to lifelong professional politicians than whatever his actual ideology was.

When you pack a party with people from the high school debate team this is what you get. They are utterly devoid of any principles.

shucks

there you go again

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

NTRabbit posted:

You missed three zeros

100000 australians?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

why

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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hambeet posted:

i voted howard AND joined a union in the same year.

hambeet is a land of contrasts

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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hooman posted:

In conclusion, hambeet is a land of contrasts.

Edit:


gently caress.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

hooman posted:

Me, doing a double take while slapping myself in the face with raw steaks: OH NOOOOOOOO

just give it time before pete evans advocates a diet that consists entirely of licking raw meat and shoving potatoes up your arse

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug
its taken me a very long time but i have trained my family not to touch me

people always said i was strange but now my time has come!!

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug
PanOceania

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

Assessor of Maat posted:

billy zane is dreamy though, that's a bulletproof opinion

Demon Knight is his best performance ever.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

SPRORTS

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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CelestialScribe posted:

gently caress off with this bullshit

why are you booing him, he's right

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

Les Affaires posted:

One where workers aren't forced to prioritise work over the health of themselves nor the people they care about and can still survive without undue burden like going into debt, bankruptcy, starvation or homelessness.

*JBP Voice*

lol

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

Jonah Galtberg posted:

What I mean is that just because someone has a positive test result doesn’t necessarily mean they’re still infected or contagious, especially after 5 weeks what they’re detecting is likely just fragments of viral RNA that aren’t actually doing anything.

(again, not disputing her remaining in quarantine)

Is there a way to test if someone is contagious? Eg: check for active virus being exhaled/shed rather than RNA or whatever?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

CrazyTolradi posted:

It's kind of fun to watch as people are realising they can't stand to be around their partners and kids and are going into manic states as they do anything they can to escape them, even if for a moment.

except for the spike in domestic violence

that's not fun

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

gay picnic defence posted:

If living with your kid while working from home is too hard, just sedate your kid. If businesses can go into hibernation I'm sure children can too.

children go zzzzzz

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug
because we only support democratic leadership if it gets us what we want

duh

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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JBP posted:

Like why are Labor stopping the semi socialists from establishing this incredible and effective party now lol

the anidav & jbp factor: stary eyed youngins' join the labor party hoping to enact change from within and progressive policy, and then when neither of those happen they become souless burnt out husks

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

JBP posted:

I actually wanted to be a disgusting apparatchik and get that state legislature money but you have to go to a lot of evening meetings on top of work 50+ hours a week so I chose video games.

you probably would have made a great lib staffer

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

JBP posted:

Love getting poo poo from unionists because I own shares while their dad helped them purchase a home, an investment property and another investment property with their sister fucken poseurs.

i didn't (couldn't) get help from my parents to buy an apartment, can i give you poo poo for owning shares?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

CelestialScribe posted:

You must be rich

loving loaded mate

additional organs in my attempt to become an irl space marine don't come cheap

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

Tommu posted:

Can u spit acid?

not anymore, I used to be able to (and by that I mean had insane issues with reflux and would cough till I vomited bile).

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
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Pillbug

hooman posted:

Imperial Fist in the streets, Deathguard all over the sheets.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Solemn Sloth posted:

Ultimately voters both collectively and individually are dumb as loving dog poo poo.

I have done a fair bit of doorknocking and worked voting booths and this is 100% true.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

gay picnic defence posted:

This is the problem. The left has no answer to people who can't be reasoned with. Fact and figures, and appeals to a sense of decency are all they have. They assume all people have an inbuilt ability and desire to critically analyse problems and arrive at a logical solution. Above all, I don't think people on the left want it badly enough. Right wingers will crawl over broken glass to win an election because they love money and winning elections means more money for them and their mates. The left seems satisfied with saying "oh well, we tried" and spending the next 3 years lamenting all the damage being done to society and institutions.

All the Get Up and Greens messaging I see looks like it's just targeted at Greens voters. Marketing 101 says that's a waste of resources but here we are.

We're talking about messaging to people who are not worldly, not critical thinkers, and who give the barest of fucks about anyone other than themselves. Get inside their heads. What are their fears, what do they want from life, what motivates them, what buzzwords and slogans do they connect with that can be used for political ends? Note that you don't have to convince them to vote for a left wing party, simply convincing them to vote for someone other than the LNP or not at all would be sufficient.

The reason Trump's messaging was on point during their election was because they actually did all that and came up with a bunch of really effective slogans like the "Drain the Swamp" one.

You don't convince these people by presenting a bunch of facts about climate change, you create an army of bots to spread memes with boomer style formatting about how Soros is funding fossil fuel companies to keep Australia dependent on foreign energy imports, and how ScoMo is undermining ~The Constitution~. You don't talk about how refugees and other migrants are being hosed over by the LNP, you make it about farmers, tradies and truckies. Don't gently caress around about decorum, make a bunch of memes calling Sco Mo a traitor. Above all, don't spread these via organisations calling themselves names associated with left wing politics, get a bunch of FB pages calling themselves Tradies for 'Straya oval office or something - I don't think people on the left realise how toxic the Greens and 'greenies' are outside of the left.

Genuine question, do you do any volunteering for any of 'the left' organizations?

Because the one big issue we have (aside from money) is manpower, because you can have all the grand plans in the world, but if all your volunteers are burnt out from the constant cycle of fed election > state election > fed election etc, and you don't have anyone to do the work and deliver the message, its not going to get out there.

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

well

get involved then

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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bell jar posted:

If I was you I would be job hunting though

i am 100% sure that anidav has never looked for another job nor expressed displeasure where he works, ever, he is 100% a company man and is very much looking forward to going down with the sinking ship like a toyota eating rat

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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JBP posted:

No it isn't. You sign on to defend an unjust system and if you don't realise that you're going to be given a truncheon and directed to bean citizens to protect your position and your betters' positions you're a bastard and a loving idiot.

ACABAFI

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Sulla Faex posted:

Freebooter when you hear "ACAB" do you think people most mean that literally every single cop ever is a wife beating power tripping sociopath?

well, thats what i mean when i say it

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Pillbug

hooman posted:

Cool cool co-cool cool cool.

Anyone else in Perth there is a Protest this Saturday at Hyde Park, starting at 12.

i'll attend via Zoom if you take your phone there with you

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Electric Wrigglies posted:

I seen on FB (I know, I know) someone post a suggestion that this is the time to go nuts doing all those national disability scheme changes to houses that are huge money but hard to fund normally. I bet a lot of the suggested changes to make disabled peoples lives significantly better (and long term cheaper to care for) are pretty much "shovel ready" in that they have known what exactly to do but without the money to do it for decades.

Jordon Steel John has been pushing this angle hard for a while.

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GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

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Zenithe posted:

It would be a really good and sensible thing to do, which is why it will definitely not be done.

I haven't spoken with him in a while, but I remember Jordon telling me there are no accessable houses available for him to rent in Canberra, so when he is there for work he has to rent a hotel room. So every time he goes to/from Canberra he has to pack up all his poo poo to take with him, rather than being able to have a second home with his work stuff for Canberra.

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