celadon posted:

i honestly believe that most people assume that the exponential increases seen in consumer electronics and computing power are not a quirk of that area but sort of an innate way that technology works when we want it to

they think that when push comes to shove, we'll get doubling of every renewable energy source every year, carbon capture will become viable, cheap electric cars, etc

the idea that there are physical constraints on how any given technology area can perform is not widely held. if computers can go from being the size of a car to the size of a tic tac in my life, we'll be able to engineer our way out of any problem once things get bad


also if there isnt a solution the really bad times wont happen for fifty years anyway so nbd

Paradoxish posted:

Depends on the model and what's wrong with it, but I've fixed these things before so it's doable. If you were trying to get like an HVAC contractor or something to do it then yeah, they're probably going to tell you that you're SOL because most of them won't bother getting out of bed for small repairs anyway.

Soggy Muffin posted:

r/collapse today is full of chuds who think trans rights and wokism will lead to collapse, as well as people who call you an eco fascist for pointing out that overshoot is our main problem, and people still in the early days of collapse awareness trying to bargain their way out of it with hopeful arguments. It’s gone to poo poo as it got more popular during Covid, and it will only get worse as normal people wake up and flock to it during whatever disasters are to come

Stereotype posted:

i'll never get over that an economist confidently stated that the climate becoming randomized and chaotic was fine because most economic activity happened indoors. the systems that we operate under are completely unmoored from reality

Hexigrammus posted:

We don't eat white sugar ourselves but we still feed several 20 kg bags per year to bees, hummingbirds, and yeast. We might have to let the bees keep more of their honey for winter stores instead of robbing it for ourselves and feeding them sugar water to get through the cold season. It would be hilarious if sugar got so expensive it fixed the widespread problem of counterfeit honey - sugar water with a bit of real honey mixed in (or artificial colouring for the ultra-fake stuff). But I guess economics doesn't work that way and honey will skyrocket in price even worse and it will still be profitable to put fake tubs of honey-flavoured sugar syrup on the market.

There was unfavourable weather during the cherry pollination period here so cherries too are . This is a continuing problem on the coast so growers here are cutting their trees down and planting other things. I just put 4 new dwarf cherries in over the last three years. Ah well, pretty flowers in the spring.


Blessed are old people who plant trees knowing that they their children their grandchildren no one shall ever sit in the shade of their foliage.

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

'Economist: That’s a striking result. Could not technology pipe or beam the heat elsewhere, rather than relying on thermal radiation?'

loving lol

Soggy Muffin posted:

I’m gonna be so ducking pissed when I’m like the last human alive and I become a ghost and there’s nothing left to haunt except stupid jelly fish just floating around in an acid ocean that hurts even my ghost body as I observe them and then I gotta spend eternity watching them not evolve at all since they already been like that for like a half a billion years which is just about the same as sharks and if your that old you don’t evolve much anymore you reached perfection so I’m just bored to tears since I can’t spook them

mawarannahr posted:

i thought that was just a goon. lol

Blog detailing our societal game of chicken with reality posted:

In the distant future, aliens come to Earth. They find a planet devoid of life. Looking closer, the aliens see that life on Earth was once abundant, but was wiped out by a mass extinction. Curiously, this event was driven not by geological disaster, but by one of the extinct species itself. In an orgy of consumption, an odd little animal put the planet under enough stress to drive itself —and the rest of life — extinct.

Then comes a startling discovering. Preserved in the sediment lies a document written by a member of the doomed species. What secrets does it contain? The aliens work for years to translate it, hoping that it offers a clue about what drove the species to overconsume. And indeed it does. The document heralds a remarkable delusion: “The world can, in effect, get along without natural resources.”

What a naive animal, the aliens conclude. While sucking the planet dry, the animal proclaimed its independence from natural resources. No wonder it went extinct.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if those "live on a cruise liner" ideas don't go horribly wrong in the same way the Biosphere projects have.

"Let's collect a ton of fragile upper-middle-class to genuinely *rich* people together in a microcosmic environment for a long period of time. What could go wrong?"

The first time they run out of coffee while underway, there'll be a body count.

Cold on a Cob posted:

lol yet another "let's kill the cassandras" thread

even if you accept this poster is 100% correct about the costs and technology, there's a huge lag between our actions and the result when it comes to climate change. that's how we ended up in this situation in the first place. so yeah i think we're going to go nuts trying to fix this.... in a few decades, when it's too late. and i'm very concerned the actions we take will involve war and eco-fascism, which sucks.

my doomerism doesn't stop anyone from trying. the closest i've come to telling people to not take action is telling people not to bomb pipelines or embrace eco-fascism as it won't actually help the cause

SKULL.GIF posted:

There's about 7 million millionaires in the USA. Let's say 1 in 40 have yachts of moderate size. That's 175,000 American yachts alone, all burning 100+ gallons/hour. Lol

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://twitter.com/vinn_ayy/status/1675749219976777728?s=20

[Banging on table] pirate future! Pirate future! Pirate future!

Stereotype posted:

maybe we should put sails on cars

Microplastics posted:

another reminder for everyone who hasn't ed in this yet

So far I've got half as many responses as last time. C'mon people the sea is on fire <>

Microplastics posted:

Good. I'm against growth

Soggy Muffin posted:

Just watched Lex Fridman, was blown away by his charisma, intellect, and vast knowledge on this topic. He said climate change will easily be conquered with human spirit and compassion, that we will continue making the world a better place and that we shall venture out and voyage the stars and expand our civilization for millions of years. What a charming and handsome young man. You guys should watch him and learn a thing or two

Rectal Death Adept posted:

It's more about the subject or general consensus of the thread than anything that is actually posted in it. "Climate Change is going to be terrible and is unstoppable." This thread represents that anxiety or worry here on Something Awful.

When people don't like that truth they are going to deal with it in a variety of ways but most types of people just want to shut the topic down entirely and it doesn't matter how it's being discussed.

celadon posted:

finding a second earth hidden by the sun only to realize its completely used up and we were the second earth hiding behind the sun

Samuel Glompers posted:

Indeed but I'm assuming SA is 99% first worlders and we're all by definition addicted so, let's keep the party going baby

gently caress COREY PERRY posted:

crossposting, doomers btfo

I in like 2019 remember using "peak phosphorus" as an example of a resource beyond oil we were hosed from overusing, turns out we're fine DRILL BABY DRILL DIG BABY DIG

Samuel Glompers posted:

It is very funny how many people think this. There's still this fantasy that outside of the urban landscape there some unspoiled nature teeming with life for us to go feast on. Just pack up and live off the land!!

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Buddy have I got some good news for you about what happened to the house of a French mayor recently after the state's dereliction of duties to their citizenry

celadon posted:

Egg Moron posted:

it would have been cool if proto earth proto mars and proto venus all had tiny life at the same time in the distant past

MightyBigMinus posted:

Zeta Taskforce posted:

The hottest place in Canada yesterday was Kuujjuaq, in far northern Quebec. 34.1 C = 93.4 F Inuvik, North West Territory on the other side of the country was almost as hot. Not good news for anyone hoping for progress fighting fires.

https://euro.dayfr.com/local/472078.html

The world set a new record on July 4 of 17.18 (63 F) degrees. This shattered the record that was set the day before of 17.01 degrees.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/05/world/hottest-day-world-climate-el-nino-intl/index.html

stumblebum posted:

if humans and our associated organisms' biomass (livestock etc.) die in significant enough numbers over a short enough time window, do we contain enough carbon for our collective corpses to significantly contribute to atmospheric carbon levels?

Popoto posted:

[Biosphere Collapse] our data shows a big wet fart and then nothing

celadon posted:

you'll wanna stockpile these, their usefulness cannot be overstated

Hubbert posted:

its gonna be REALLY cool if records management becomes fully digital and we lose the ability to transfer knowledge to future generations after a potential collapse of global industrial civilization

just getting big mad at fancy broken rock + metal mosiacs that we once shot electricity through for the wisdom they contained

celadon posted:

you'll wanna stockpile these, their usefulness cannot be overstated

SorePotato posted:

We're nearly at the critical mass of nonviolent demonstrations before the ruling class has a big Come to Jesus moment about fossil fuels. In my expert opinion

Hubbert posted:

finally, I can be free from the somethingawful forums ...

SorePotato posted:

After 20 years of on and off famine, the US promises to cut emissions by half by the year 2150

celadon posted:

oh sweet i did this one already