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Red Rox posted:One interesting element was just how drat HEALTHY the Nuggets were this season. I mean they've had bad injury luck in previous years but this season they seemed rock solid. I haven't been able to experience that with the Pels since 2008.
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Ammanas posted:dont fiba rules allow for a lot more contact without fouls? seens like ayton would be the opposite of who you want. I don't think there is defensive 3 seconds in FIBA, which is why Willy Hernangomez was MVP last summer.
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Fast Luck posted:if this were real that'd absolutely rule for Charlotte... a LaMelo and Zion tandem would be so much fun. throw in wife beater scum super dunker Miles Bridges and what you've got is pretty electric if they aren't drowned by injuries and off the court issues. Even Rozier is a good fit with that squad. I'd definitely trade Scoot and salary filler (Hayward is a pretty close match) for that possibility It would take far more than that according to Fischer (who is much more plugged into the Pels than Stein): quote:The Pelicans are indeed quite high on Henderson, sources confirmed to Yahoo Sports. He boasts the explosiveness and athletic build of a bonafide franchise-caliber offensive engine, with Henderson measuring just under 6-foot-4 in shoes during visits with Portland and Charlotte. New Orleans is armed with all the future draft capital if those two teams were to value that commodity. But that’s just not the present reality.
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Shear Modulus posted:If prime chris paul was a foot taller would he be as good as jokic Yes. Easily. Prime CP3 before the bum knee was a monster.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:10
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Apparently, Green is finally getting to hire good own assistants now. TSpoon was a SVG-era hire. She still rules and I will miss her.
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Supposedly, that was to let him know about TSpoon first since she was close to him and helped him a lot during his missed season. Also, https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/status/1669452869433434112?t=xbrEWxwzYtwZEwJ_YibAWA&s=19
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Lady Radia posted:i miss nba basketball but the wnba is fun Please come post in our WNBA thread! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4001441&pagenumber=9&perpage=40
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WhyteRyce posted:in Zion's defense he's got other relationships to deal with 🤷
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Jun 16, 2023 17:59
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Athanatos posted:Yeah but lying to the commish and then pulling a gun out in the parking lot after the meeting is worth -57 games on the "Rule of Cool" scale, so the 25 was the solution. The only mitigating circumstance around the TSpoon firing is she was part of the SVG staff and Green is finally getting the chance to make his own staffing hires. Also, they let her interview for those positions but gave her more money before she accepted to go to those interviews, so they never happened.
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Jun 16, 2023 18:01
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pentyne posted:I know trade rumors are the entire point of the off-season but suggesting the Blazer's upcoming 3rd pick in the draft for Zion sounds more insane then normal. It is a bit insane. The Pels aren't opposed to trading Zion, but they aren't going to just give him away. First, they want Scoot, so he would have to fall to 3. Then they would want every possible young player with potential that the Blazers have and all their remaining draft picks and some swaps. It ain't gonna happen.
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got some chores tonight posted:I think Scoot is supposed to be real good and Zion is about to enter his big money years. Obviously the Pelicans know more about Zion that any other team, but if they aren't excited by his medicals or behavior or whatever, I think getting the #2 pick, who a lot of people are saying would be an easy #1 in other years, seems like a decent off ramp. The Pels aren't looking to move Zion. If someone blows them away with an offer, they'll take it. But not for just Scoot. They will want lots more because they know his value to other teams is that high.
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Smeef posted:Maybe New Orleans is changing their terrible team name  Paul Zuvella posted:What can you even trade Zion for at this point in time. Dude has barely played professional basketball and is due almost 200 million. A lot. His value around the league is still seen as an All-NBA player.
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Jun 19, 2023 14:09
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Brogeoisie posted:A high lottery pick and some salary matching with ok players. Hornets could do it with Hayward + 2nd or something. His stats are awesome when he plays, like top 5 in league, and he's still young so he's worth a lot, honestly think a team should gamble on him No, the Pels already turned that down, lol. Scoot would be the starting point. They would want much, much more than that or they'll just keep him.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Sure, that seems fine and good but generally speaking when you don’t he’s power moves you want to be moved to a contender and not a team in basically the exact same situation your current team is in. Like if Zion is miserable in new Orleans is he really going to be happy in Charlotte? Where are you getting he's miserable because he's in NOLA from? He seems to have been miserable because he can't get and stay healthy enough to play basketball.
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Jun 19, 2023 14:12
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tanglewood1420 posted:If Zion is genuinely available and it's not just smoke then at least one team is going to make the moves necessary to get him. He's available, but it would be for an AD/Gobert type kind of haul. Not Scoot and expiring contracts.
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Lockback posted:Scoot is probably worth a handful of mid round firsts. The Pels already offered that and CHA turned them down.
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Jun 19, 2023 14:55
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ChickenMedium posted:This dance they are doing where the Blazers pretend to not want to trade Lillard and Lillard pretends to not want to be traded is getting increasingly hilarious and desperate. They've been doing it for like 6 years now.
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Jun 19, 2023 19:16
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chilihead posted:How can you say this when a 3 time all star who averaged over 30 points a game got traded in a salary dump. Of course Scoot is the starting point but moving on from that huge contract is the real goal of such a trade. Yes the Pelicans would want a few more picks back but it won't be a Gobert or AD deal. Because the Pels would rather just keep him if they didn't get a return like that, despite the headaches.
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Jun 19, 2023 20:23
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OH WORD SON posted:It's almost as if they don't want to trade him yup
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I have it on, but only a single monitor and am catching up on a day of ball-related news, rumors, and analysis after starting a new gunpla model this evening (The-O is fantastic).
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Mean Baby posted:George's salary makes it difficult as the Blazers have to trade Simons & Nurk to match. I think the Blazers are holding out to not use Simons in a package with #3 to package Simons + 23 for another piece. Everyone throws Simons in a deal, but Simons is too valuable to be a salary match. Blazers aren't getting Zion without giving up Scoot, Sharpe, and Simons, imo.
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Mean Baby posted:Eh. Teams trade contracts, not players. The Pels would just keep Zion, in that case. He's not a "distressed asset" lmao. Teams still view him as a possible best player on a championship team kind of guy. The Pels know this and will only trade him for something that fits that valuation. Or they will just keep him. They aren't trying to dump him. And, if they move him, they are likely going into rebuild mode if they don't get another similar level player back. So, yeah, Scoot, Sharpe, and Simons.
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Lady Radia posted:gotta send pics after or i wont believe u Too tired to take out the camera for some feet pics, but have this completely awful photo of this just completed Zeong, instead: 
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The Maestro posted:He called Harrison Barnes a “true 4” in his mock draft article, it’s safe to say he doesn’t know poo poo. He still thinks it is better to have Dorrian Finney Smith and his contract on a team than Brandon Ingram and his contract.
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lol https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1671968835711148040?s=20
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Chronicles posted:I feel like just about any team that can get Lopez would be happy. He's a perfect piece. The only roleplayer center that I respect as a stretch 5.
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i am a moron posted:There’s an equally good chance the Warriors are going to need him to be injured because he’s 40 and might just straight up not be good anymore He's been better than Poole, so still an upgrade.
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R.D. Mangles posted:mildly annoying how when someone talks about "shooting" they are exclusively talking about threes. agreed
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Azathoth posted:I honestly believe that the rule is there to protect teams from desperate GMs making increasingly long odds trades to try to save their jobs. There's nothing more dangerous to a team's long term success than a GM who's got one more year to turn things around. Owners always have the final say. They can just say "no" to the dumb trade.
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Papes posted:Probably a dumb idea but I’ve always felt if you have a players bird rights you should be able to pay them them whatever but only a % of the salary (say 75%) counts towards cap. I could see it working where the player could sign for whatever amount, but the hit to the salary cap is whatever a normal "max" contract would be for that player. That salary cap number is what is used for when that player is traded. It would also mean that, if the player is traded, they would no longer get that money above the salary cap number, so they lose big bucks if traded. One player with this chad-max per team, non-transferable, comes with NTC.
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Dexo posted:Nah, I don't like the idea of players not getting paid money they were promised, Something more along the lines of you trade a player they get paid everything, but the extra money is no longer off the cap. I'm good with that.
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NickRoweFillea posted:The WNBA is ftw I love it. They get better abs more exciting every season.
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SunshineDanceParty posted:I really liked the Wallace pick. He's a high IQ defense guard that fits into the rotation with the ball handling going to Shai, Giddy, and J Dub. Having one of him, Joe, or Dort on the court is a pretty solid rotation in my mind. Cason is also shockingly competent in iso situations, iirc, which bodes well for his offensive development.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I don't think he listens to talk radio. He's just a super positive guy. This is good and I hope he holds onto that positivity for as long as possible.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Who else in the NBA is giving Vooch anything close to that? 1/7th of the cap for a solid starter seems rather cheap to me, tbh.
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That travel rule is going to gently caress up NOLA, Memphis, and Minnesota more than any other team because they are all so far away from many other conference teams.
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/HoopMixOnly/status/1673429074012782594 I would entertain arguments on leaving out Durant, tbh. Lebron, Shaq, and Jordan are the obvious untouchables.
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Spacebump posted:Doesn't prime Durant do most things better than prime Kobe? I think Kobe could be more disruptive to the other team's plans on both sides of the ball, even if Durant is a more efficient player on offense and more versatile on defense. His aggressiveness could be a difference maker compared to Durant's more laid-back play style. e: i think Kobe could help generate more fast breaks on that team than Durant would, which could offset the efficiency difference
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https://twitter.com/FearTheBrown/status/1674448634434269188?t=lK7H0jPBpG_3QbllEklP-w&s=19 I forgot that what goes into the BRI pot got expanded.
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