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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Lycaeon posted:

I let my indoor cat outside for probably the first time in her life (Other than a few supervised outdoor visits with a leash) a few days back.

She came back the next day with a dead bird. Freshly killed.

How did she do that? How did she magically pick up master hunting skills while being stuck in a house for her entire life? It's a mystery. :(

I'm not letting her back outside for now. I for one like my neighborhood wildlife and the thought of unleashing a serial killer on it...ugh...

Of course she is still the most precious thing in the world to me. Even if she's a murderer.

She did that because she is a cat and that is what they do.

The thing you have to understand about cats is that they are cuddly and fluffy and lovable and also merciless serial killers that that enjoy murdering small animals, even when they're well fed and have no need to eat them. Even when they have no intention of eating them.

Don't let your cat outside. It's dangerous for the cat and a death sentence for the local wildlife.

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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Dr Christmas posted:

So how do I fix this and what the hell do I tell my dad?

You suck it up and you lock the cats in the basement, honestly. They'll just have to deal with it. Failing that, you either move out or you get rid of the cat.

It's not loving rocket surgery here.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


You couldn't stick him in a shelter. No shelter is going to take a 14 year old diabetic cat that you're giving up due to uncontrollable floorpissing, because that's pretty much the definition of an unadoptable cat.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


painted bird posted:

Are we seriously suggesting putting a cat to sleep over what amounts to an inconvenience to the owners? :psyduck: What the gently caress.

It's an inconvenience that he either can't overcome or is unwilling to overcome(e.g. he seems to have let the foyer litterbox turn into a 'smelly eyesore' once his sister stopped cleaning it), and it is straining his finances and his living situation. Moreover, the animal concerned is a 14 year old cat with continence problems and a medical history, which means that he's pretty much the perfect example of an unadoptable animal.

There's not a whole lot of good options here; even if he could afford to move out, incontinent cats are not going to be welcome tenants anywhere.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


IuniusBrutus posted:

What is the best way to get her into her carrier for the appointment?

I put an old unwashed t-shirt of mine in the cat carrier so that she has something that smells comforting(her favorite nap spot is my dirty laundry basket). I just make sure I use a t-shirt I'm okay with tossing if she pees on it, which has only happened once. About half an hour before I leave for the appointment I sprinkle same catnip in there , and I usually have a happy cat rolling around in there by the time I'm ready to leave. If it doesn't work, I just pick her up and put her in it.

Since you have a top-opening carrier, lay her down on her back when you put her in there; this will prevent her from bracing against the edges of the carrier when you try to put her in it.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Organza Quiz posted:

(whose potential names include Chamomile and Peridot)

Of those two names, you should name newcat Peridot because "Pepper and Peridot" sounds better than "Pepper and Chamomile".

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


JohnnyCanuck posted:

It's ok, though, there's always cats who need homes at the OHS!

Twinkle is obviously the best of those cats. Tabby cats are the best cats AND she has a white belly and socks? Clearly the winner.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


CompactFanny posted:

Things you can do to get her drinking more:

- move the water away from the food.
- Add more water dishes throughout your house in different spots.
- every so often add an ice cube! My cats love that.
- get a water fountain.

If you get a water fountain, make sure to also move it away from the food. Otherwise your idiot cat will get food into the fountain and it will get all disgusting and soggy and it will clog everything all up and it will be SO gross to unclog.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Dongattack posted:

she feels they should be outdoors all the time

She's a garbage vet with garbage opinions.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


My cat does not like cat doors and will almost never use them. I am pretty sure that if I put her litterbox on the other side of a cat door she'd just poo poo on the floor.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


duckfarts posted:

Originally, I wanted to get one of these:

but couldn't find one. It seems like it'd be good for clay litter.

I have one for my cat and it works fantastically for her litter(standard issue Tidy Cat).

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


CompactFanny posted:

The female in heat is marking. Spay her :ms:

This, yeah.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Canadian Bakin posted:

Feliway diffusers are a god send in cases like this.

Where's a good place to get that? They're so expensive around here.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


MrSlam posted:

On a side note, does anyone else's cats have a chubby belly mane that wobbles when they walk?

It's called the "primordial pouch" and most cats have it to some extent. It's basically loose skin that provides a bit of extra protection against getting their belly raked when they fight other cats, and it also helps them to do that impossible looking cat stretch.

It's more noticeable on some cats than others, and it doesn't necessarily mean that the cat is overweight; my cat has a very obvious one and she's a bit under 8lbs.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Ridgewell posted:

What do you think?

I think you should pet that cat.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


thuly posted:

I read like 50 pages back and couldn't find anything about cat fountains.

My SO has been wanting to get one for three months now for our one cat. Do they actually provide any benefits for the cat or do they just turn electricity into noise?

Lots of cats don't like drinking stagnant/still water and providing a fountain can really help keep them hydrated properly.

The only big thing to watch out for is that you don't want to put the fountain near their food bowl. If you do that they will eventually get food into the fountain and it will get all soggy and gross and clog things up and it will be awful and you will hate it.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Really, I feel like the best solution for that is usually a second cat.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


porkswordonboard posted:

changing the water more (I change it 2x a day and now I'm trying 3+)

I got a cheap little plastic cat fountain and it's been fantastic for my cat. She drinks noticeably more water now that I have it, and it's also way more convenient for me because it holds enough water that I only have to top it off every couple of days, as opposed to changing out the regular plastic bowl of water several times a day.

I've had it for a month and a half or so and maintenance has been surprisingly low on it. Once a week or so, I take it apart, rinse it with hot water, wipe it all down, and then put it back together. Takes like 5 minutes. Filters are fairly cheap and I only replace them every 2-3 weeks or so. I should have bought one of these years ago.

Just make sure you don't put it next to their food, or they'll get food in it and it will get all soggy and gross and clog up the pump.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


I'm having trouble introducing my cat to my roommate's cat. I moved in about a month ago, and her cat had free run of the house. Now my cat basically lives in my bedroom and her cat is locked out of the bedroom. I'd really like to get the two of them on friendly terms, but my cat is a humongous scaredy cat. The thing where you feed them at the same on either side of a door doesn't really work because both cats are free-feeders normally. As well, my cat is a scaredy cat who would cower away from the door, and her cat is a very friendly ex-stray that isn't scared at all so he'd bolt all his food and then wander off.

Anybody have any advice on this?

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Tiptoes posted:

I recently adopted two kittens, about 5 and 4 months old, and I'm worried about the effects of overheating. My apartment's AC unit is on the fritz so now it's 90+ degrees indoors. How hot is TOO hot for kittens? They seem less energetic than normal, which is to be expected in the heat, but otherwise they're both still eating and drinking (I at least have fresh, cold water to give them). I see the younger one panting every now and then but they're still playing with each other so behavior-wise, they don't act off.

Right now I'm just trying to get them to rest next to icepacks if I see them panting, but I don't know if my landlord can look at the AC today so I'm worried about going to work tomorrow morning and leaving them alone in the heat while I'm gone. Are they in danger in these kind of conditions?

Stray cats survive outside in those types of temperature all the time, really. Just make sure they have lots of water and keep a fan running or something.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


explosivo posted:

So, as a first year cat owner, how can I cat-proof my christmas tree? It's fake, so I think it's a lot less appealing to her already because it doesn't smell like a tree. She's been nibbling at branches here and there, which i'm not too worried about because I can't imagine the plastic tastes great, I'm just looking for ideas to keep her away to avoid any drama. We put the ornaments off the bottom layer so there's nothing dangling underneath for her to bat around, and I do have a bottle of that bitter cherry stuff I've been spraying on the wires to keep her from chomping on those. I'm really debating getting one of those Ssscat Air Cans just to keep around the base of the tree.

Something like a ScatMat or a Ssscat might work, depending on how the living room is arranged and whether or not the cat can bypass them by getting on the windowsill or whatever.

For the most part though I feel like the only thing you can really do is accept the fact that cat is gonna climb that tree eventually.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

About a week ago we discovered our cat had pooped in her cat bed. (She tends to prefer lying on our furniture, so the bed is not one of her most favorite spots, but she does lay in it sporadically.). It was a normal poop, no pee. We've had her for over a year and while she's had one or two minor incidents with dingleberries , this was the first time she's ever dropped a full turd outside her box. My daughter said she was near the cat box that afternoon and the cat was coming over but then left, maybe because there was too much activity. So, we thought it might have been a one-off and we'd monitor things.

Until today everything was fine-- daily pees and poops, all in the box. But this morning we woke up to a fairly large cat turd on the carpet, about halfway between her usual living room lounging spots and her litter box (and not near the spot of the previous poop). Again it looked like a normal turd. She's still only peeing in the litter box, thankfully, and at normal intervals. She's eating normally and I don't think we've made any changes to anything in the past few weeks that would mess with her.

Ideas? Is a vet visit likely to be helpful?

My cat will do this when she considers her litterbox to be insufficiently clean.

I solved this problem by adding a second litterbox right next to the first one..

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


If you only have one litterbox for two cats you need to be scooping that box at least twice a day. I'd definitely got to two boxes if you can.

I look at it this way: If you gave me a choice between taking a piss inside of a digusting over-full portapotty or pissing outside, I'm going to pick outside approximately all of the time. I don't expect my cat to choose differently.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Here's the little monster. We don't know much about her history but she's got some loose skin so might have been fat once upon a time.

If it's saggy belly skin, most cats have that. It's just how cats are built. It's called the "primordial pouch" and it helps protect their belly when they fight other cats, as well as helping them do their cat slinky impersonations. It's perfectly normal.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Doctor Butts posted:

I've tried Zyrtec for seasonal allergies in the past and I didn't like the way it made me feel.

Generic Allegra and Claritin are also worth trying for this, some people have better luck with one of those. Personally, I do the best on Allegra. Get the -D version with the pseudophedrine if you can.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Pixelante posted:

Snowflake is an indoor cat, but the cafe next door has a mouse problem, which means that I had a mouse problem. For about an hour. I can barely handle killing spiders and I had to drown a paralysed mouse in a bucket before coffee that morning. Cats are gonna cat but ugggghh. Haven't seen a mouse since.

That's basically how it went in my sister's old apartment. The building had a mouse problem, but she didn't learn about it until she was moving out(for unrelated reasons) and the neighbors asked her if she was leaving because of the mice. I've always assumed that her two cats made the apartment smell like cat and the mice just kept the gently caress away from it.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Reynold posted:

I want to get my two cats one of those little water fountains. They keep knocking their water dish over lately, and I hear the flowing water encourages them to drink. Good idea or bad idea? If idea good, is there a simple, easy to clean model out there?

My cat drinks so much more water now that she has a fountain. Dunno about brands, I just grabbed a cheap $20 plastic job from Walmart because I didn't know if she'd like it. I'll probably get a better one when this one needs replaced. Cleaning is super easy on this one, at least. I just take it apart and scrub it with dish soap and a bottle brush once a week, takes maybe 5 minutes.

The most important thing to remember is that you can't keep their water near their food if you're using a fountain. Otherwise they will get food into the fountain and it will get soggy and gross and clog up the pump and the filter and it's awful and ugh.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Anybody have a good recommendation for a drinking fountain for 1-2 cats? I've been using cheap plastic ones for years, but I'm tired of replacing them every year.

I'd prefer stainless steel. but my only real requirement is that it has to be quiet with no constant water trickling noises. The bowl sits in the corner of my bedroom and that would drive me loving crazy.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Organza Quiz posted:

I don't think it's physcially possible to get a fountain that doesn't make a noise you can hear in the same room as it. I got a fountain that seemed like the most gentle/quiet possible set up and it was still quite audible. Moving water just makes noise.

Noise from the pump or whatever is fine. I just don't want the trickling sound of water falling into water. The one I'm using currently has the water falling on a angled bit of plastic so it doesn't make splashing sounds.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


TofuDiva posted:

I learned recently that that is called a primordial pouch. The thinking is that it is an early feature that still exists because it has functions - it protects vital organs when cats bunnyk.ick each other, it makes it easier for a cat to fully extendwhen running or jumping, and it provides room for when a cat eats a huge meal :science:

You'll also sometimes see it referred to as a "hangbelly".

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


I wouldn't be too worried as long she keeps eating/drinking and using the litter box. If she stops doing that then it's time to be concerned, but this seems pretty normal to me.

You gave her some unusual rich food and she had a case of the shits. It happens. I'd just go back to her old food and see how she does. It's not unusual for a cat to be a bit off their feed after moving to a new place, especially if that new place had an unfamiliar cat. I'd let her get nice and settled before trying to change up her diet.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


HungryMedusa posted:

Thanks, this is helpful. We will probably start with one. Next, I need to decide litter box placement which will be tough on the ground floor, but easy in the basement. We have some weeks to sort all this out.

My advice for litterboxes is to go with a top-entry litterbox as soon as they're big enough to get in and out by themselves. It really reduces the mess you have to deal with because it stops them from kicking litter out onto the floor when they bury their poo. I use this $20 Amazon Basics one and it works great.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Yeah, bell collars do not work. Think of it this way: If you can manage to walk smoothly enough to avoid jangling a bell, a cat can definitely do it. There's a reason that stealthy/sneaky people are called "catfooted".

Cats are gonna cat. The only way you're gonna stop him from killing things is to keep him inside. If he's not neutered, get it done to help address the spraying.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Try a top entry litter box if you don’t already have one. Made a huge difference for me.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


That’s what I do, honestly. Switch the boxes completely then just drop the cat into the new box so that I know she knows where it is. So far none of them have protests pooped on the floor.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


There's a little stray cat around my house regularly that I'd like to adopt, but I already have a cat. What's the process here? Get it into a carrier, take it to the vet to get checked out, then quarantine it somewhere with food/water/litter?

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013



Becklespinax posted:

Anyone got any advice for trimming the butt fluff? Mr Spice is doing a great job of getting poop in his fluff and then scooting it along the floor...

I’m thinking towel burrito and then using his mat comb as a barrier between his skin and fluff I can snip off.

Here’s a photo of the cute non-poopy end as thanks


I'd get electric clippers with a guard and just buzz it short. No loving around with scissors or combs, not likely to accidentally cut skin, and easier to use on a wiggly cat.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Corte posted:

My cat, Hemingway, has become a bit more lethargic. He lazes around a bit more and sometimes sleeps on my bed during the day. I'm not sure if he's just settled in and more chill or if something is wrong. He still can get very vocal and is energetic when we play with da bird feather wand.

Cats often sleep for 15-20 hours per day, and they're most active during the evening and night. It's perfectly normal for a cat to spend all afternoon napping, and the fact that he's sleeping sprawled out on your bed instead of in a little cubbyhole somewhere is a sign that he's comfortable and feels safe.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


broken pixel posted:

One of my fine young men has made a habit of specifically drinking water out of dripping faucets. I’m wondering if he may enjoy a cat fountain or if the thrill is all in getting it from sinks. Does anyone have a successful cat fountain in their home?

My cats have all loved it, and they drink more water when they have a fountain than when they have a regular bowl.

One word of advice, though: Don't keep the fountain next to the food bowl if your cats free feed. They will inevitably get food into the fountain and it will get all gross and soggy and you'll have to clean the filters and/or the pump and you will hate it.

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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


I put a cat flap on my bedroom door so my cat just goes back and forth as she pleases.

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