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VogeGandire posted:I'm re-reading Death of WCW, after finally getting it on Kindle. Which reminds me of one passage in the book: The Death of WCW posted:one of Master P's henchmen, Swoll, a huge guy with no talent, was signed for $400,000 per year Now, a page or two before that it mentions how they had hired Master P for five non-wrestling appearances that had cost them about one million dollars in total. I can sort of maybe understand throwing that much money on Master P (even if his angle got killed almost immediately) because they were throwing away money on a lot of "celebrities" at that point, but seriously, Swoll? That's a higher per-year contract than they gave to some of the wrestlers they hired and never used, someone at WCW must have seriously thought Swoll would be the next big thing.
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The Monkey Man posted:If I recall correctly, the story behind the Tank Abbott knife incident is that Tank asked management if he could use a "weapon" on Big Al after the match, and they assumed that he meant a folding chair or something and said okay. The Huntington Beach Bad Boy, ladies and gentlemen.
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The Death of WCW mentions that at one point Russo had to do episodes of Nitro wearing a helmet due to how bad the concussions got. Was he still putting himself up to take bumps at that point or was the helmet more of a "if you take any more head damage you'll die" kind of thing?
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jeffersonlives posted:It was a rotating column called "Death by Thunder" or something like that. It usually involved alcohol. You wouldn't happen to still have this up somewhere online, would you?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Was it Russo's influence that made the last(?) WCW video game take place entirely in the backstage area of an arena and never once in a wrestling ring? Coincidentally, that was also the same game where you can play as Russo.
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To here Jim Cornette tell it, Russo's greatest weakness while booking was his inability to learn from anyone or to even want to learn about the wrestling business and how to work in it (what to do, what not to do etc.) Any mistakes he made in the late 90s were basically never improved on and things just went downhill from there.
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Rad R. posted:Back to the topic of the Clash and WCW in general. Did they ever consider making a separate, cruiserweight-only show? No, but there was a real, concrete attempt to make an NWO-only show.
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Solomonic posted:Whoa now, let's be fair to Sting, there were also aspects lifted directly from The Mask. "Evil clowns, in the rafters!" But yeah, I guess you can at least say that Sting is good at impersonations 
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Say Nothing posted:Master P was paid around $100,000 per appearance. Your post got me to pull out my copy of "The Death of WCW" again and, holy poo poo, it was actually higher than that at $200,000 per appearance. Also, $400,000 a year for the contract they gave to Swoll, one of Master P's No Limit Soldiers. I also like the line The Death of WCW posted:Nitro the following Monday was at the SuperDome in New Orleans before a paying crowd of 15,593. Master P had bragged to the company that his presence would make the building sell out. Considering that the building could hold over 55,000, Master P was wrong. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Toffile posted:Turner basically produced no original series for the entirety of its ownership of WCW. TNT didn't really start producing original series until the 2000s, TBS did some stuff in the 80s, but did nothing in the 90s. TCM doesn't produce new content, which is kind of the point. According to The Death of WCW, there were plans at to make a WCW cartoon (which got shelved when the company started tanking), so maybe they were planning to put that on CN at some point. Whether this would have been an NWO cartoon is left up to the reader's imagination. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's somehow crazy to me that Hogan was only 43 in 1996. He looked middle-aged for most of his career. Must be the 'stache. And the baldness. I think he was already or mostly balding in 1982, even.
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Zack_Gochuck posted:How 'bout that Tank Abbot? I heard he was the original Huntington Beach Bad Boy. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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triplexpac posted:Didn't we give someone a golfer gimmick in Rarity's TEW Let's Play? Yeah, Drew "Hole In One" McIntyre.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Probably what we'll get when TNA closes down but with Bischoff having to make appearances on Come on Sleazy E, I know you can do it 
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Cornwind Evil posted:So where does all this money that doesn't actually exist go? Into the pockets of executives I assume. You'd be correct Wikipedia posted:Criticism Bonus points for how goddamn terrible the part of Hogan's book it cites is Hulk Hogan posted:"People in the state of Georgia were happy that I got my rear end beat by their homeboy. Unfortunately nobody else in America seemed to feel that way. The numbers didn't change. The only thing that was different was that Bill Goldberg had the belt-and that turned out to be another type of problem...this monster who didn't ever want to lose a match...when a guy's one-dimensional you can't do anything with him....working with Bill Goldberg became a nightmare."
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RBX posted:Somebody post the captain America picture. 
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Volcano Style posted:A lot of their ripoff songs were pretty good. This can also be applied to exactly one ripoff song TNA has produced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YAzkR-VZ6g
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Occupy Japan posted:I just watched KC's Guest Booker with Vince Russo and I have to say, as bad as Russo is at booking wrestling and talking about wrestling and having opinions about wrestling and writing wrestling and wrestling in wrestling, his idea for the Invasion is actually a zillion times better than how that trainwreck actually played out (though, to be fair, not even doing an Invasion angle and just briefly acknowledging the WCW purchase and then dumping WCW's talent into the midcard would have been a zillion times better). Surprisingly, it's not a whole lot more "that's a shoot, brother" than Cornette's Guest Booker covering the same angle, despite what you'd expect from Russo. DDP vs. Undertaker in a Sara on a Pole match.
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Red posted:Given enough time, WCW creative would've come up with: I'd mark out for a world order containing only Buff Bagwell and Scott Steiner. bWo - The Buff World Order
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: "What can we call the world order for tall guys?"
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Luigi Thirty posted:Who would the worst WCW promo be of the people they actually let talk? Sid.
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oldpainless posted:Everyone talks about "Day of the Warrior" being some obscure cult film but if you had Showtime or The Movie Channel in the 90s you were gonna see that movie, like it or not. And I liked it. Further proof that Buff is the stuff.
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natetimm posted:I've heard it said a lot that Lex wasn't "one of the boys" and thought he was better than wrestling but he sure looks like he's having a good time there. Cocaine is the universal solvent.
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Buff Bagwell followed by Glacier, it's like a dream come true
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The only match that didn't have any appeal was Buff vs Scotty. And even that match had Buff taking time out to talk to the camera about how awesome he was.
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I'd say it's a tossup between giving Hogan creative control and giving Nash the books.
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Literally every moment involving Tank Abbott.
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Say Nothing posted:Wasn't there some huge text article listing all of the WCW stupidity around somewhere? Anyone know the one I mean? Found it, The Wrestling Sleaze List.
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Luigi Thirty posted:HHH was The Wall. Nick Patrick rings the bell while Bryan tries to ride the elevator up on top of the building and Bryan gets DQed. HHH's count never starts because he never actually entered the ring. Kevin Nash spray-paints a shovel on Bryan's butt. In the distance, Hulk Hogan is standing in the ring at WrestleMania 30 while pointing in HHH's direction and shouting "THAT'S THE GAME, BROTHER!"
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Bigass Moth posted:I think Michael Buffer made $10,000 per appearance to do about 10 seconds of work. And the same amount of money regardless of whether he got the wrestler's name right. BRET "THE HITMAN" CLARK!
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Say Nothing posted:Has Hogan ever been in a movie which didn't totally suck balls? Rocky III, featuring Hogan's best acting and quite possibly best wrestling.
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DeathChicken posted:I think it was Raven who said ECW would eventually get to a place where Heyman would talk someone into being shot on camera. "Tommy, do it for ECW! It'll only be a glancing blow!" In a swerve, New Jack becomes the second gunman.
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Fortunately, Buff Bagwell's theme makes up for all of that.
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1st AD posted:What exactly was the reasoning behind WCW signing Tank Abbot? Were they trying to have their own less roidy/fatter/worse performing Ken Shamrock? He proclaimed himself to be the original Huntington Beach Bad Boy.
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oatgan posted:Tony Schiavone owns so hard Greatest announcer in the history of our sport.
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Halloween Jack posted:If Hall had seen Nash on a different day, would Sting have dressed like the Wizard of Oz? Oh, to live in the parallel universe where Vinnie Vegas descends from the rafters each Nitro.
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epitasis posted:Nash rules
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CombineThresher posted:Is it really THAT good? The episode with Buff on it totally is.
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weekly font posted:Isn't the theater at MSG a stage? A ring up on a stage is a weird setup for a wrestling show. Wouldn't be the first time they've done something like that. They had a house show in Columbia, South Carolina about five months ago at a venue that if memory serves me right was just a small community theater. I guess they pulled back the curtain and used most of the backstage area so they could go outside the ring, but it must have looked janky as gently caress regardless. The only other way I can think of doing it is to tear down a bunch of the seats and relocate them to the stage so the ring could go in the very middle of the room, but that would have been a terrible setup as well. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Endorph posted:I imagine the power trip of beating RAW in the ratings got to his head. People going 'holy poo poo, we're beating WWF!' and he can't very well lose, not now that he's kicking their asses. He'd look like a complete tool. How could you go from winning to losing? He probably got a memo from someone higher up at Time Warner the second ratings started to level off and poo poo just got weird from there.
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Swagger Dagger posted:Lance Storm posted a few WCW stories: http://www.stormwrestling.com/061214.html quote:One last WCW tale, which again involves poor ED and once again illustrates why Bookers are better than Writers and could also be a warning to all who are producing pro-wrestling currently. One afternoon at TV I was walking with Ed Ferarra who had the format sheet for Nitro in his hand and he was organizing what seemed like 100 pre-taped segments backstage. I half jokingly commented to him, "drat, you aren't afraid to write a thousand pre-tapes are you?" To this he responded, "Well, we have to tell these stories." in rebuttal I pointed out, "You know, if given time some of us can actually tell these stories in the ring." This got no verbal response from Ed, all I got from him was a look of befuddlement like this concept had never occurred to him before and he didn't really believe me.
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