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ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

bartlebyshop posted:

I'm guessing he wants a Goldwater for Democrats, who loses the race he's most famous for but whose policy positions quickly become mainstream within the party and cause a sea change in the base.

Sanders doesn't have a Clif White to engineer him the nomination. The McGovern reforms notwithstanding, the closest Clif White equivalent we've seen recently is David Plouffe and I don't think he's going to leave Uber for Sanders (and I don't think Sanders would want him anyway)

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ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Also running: Jill Stein

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

CCKeane posted:

Sorry if this has been posted around, but Christie is going to announce.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/25/417458360/christie-to-announce-tuesday-that-hes-running-for-president

I am very, very eager for Christie and Trump to share a debate stage.

I'm astounded that a man who shook hands with Obama thinks he even has a chance in today's Republican primary.

Oh well; keeps Santorum or Perry out of a debate!

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Leading Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson would like to remind you all that communism has infiltrated American society and is working hard to destroy it from within.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Sheldon Adelson flexes his muscle over the GOP field.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Indie Rocktopus posted:

- Trump is impervious to scandal, and he doesn't seem be hurt by gaffes. He's said repulsive things, even by Republican standards, and reporters have made it very clear his supposed fortune is mostly bullshit - but every single time he's gets called out, he refuses to back off, and instead doubles down on his position in the most pompous and insincere way possible. And then he gets away with it. Bush got smacked from the left and the conservative faithful for his moronic, indecisive statements on Iraq because there's no correct way to answer that question - the war was a fiasco and Bush is inextricably associated with it, but he's not allowed to ever admit the Republican party was ever wrong about anything. Trump can just brag about he would have dropped nukes on all of 'em plus North Korea, but you can't call him on that, allowing him to completely sidestep a contentious issue that's doing major damage to the other candidates. You can point out that Trump's fortune is mostly nonexistent, and he'll just start screaming about the hugest most luxurious hotels and casinos until people just accept his claims. You could find out he was running a dog-fighting ring, and he'd say he was forced to by market conditions and anyway he was only meeting the public's demand.

In other words, "he is un-fact-checkable":

quote:

This is the whole thing about fact-checking Donald Trump: He is un-fact-checkable. That's his gift and his angle. As he made clear today, he says whatever he wants for as long as he wants, because, why not? If I sat down with him and said that he was wrong on GDP or wrong on premiums, he would call me a hater and a loser and disparage my dog or something. Who knows? Who knows?!

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Trump has at least one elected official on his side.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Grey Fox posted:

To be fair, Harry probably feels threatened by Ted's ability to be an even bigger turd in the punchbowl than him.

If you've heard any of Harry Shearer's Le Show, you'll know he is almost certainly about as anti-Republican as they come.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Powered Descent posted:

I realize I'm getting WAY ahead of things here, but I'm curious which states all of you would consider to be "swing states" this time around.

I've been playing around with the electoral map on good ol' 270 To Win and I'm having trouble coming up with a plausible scenario where the blue team's starting line is any lower than about 240 electoral votes. More realistic scenarios tend to hand the victory to the Dems even before putting big states like Ohio and Florida in one column or the other.

This is about as generous as I can be about putting states in the Swing category:



Any differing opinions on states to include or leave out of the "swing" category?

NH is swing, PA is debatably swing. MI might still split votes like ME and NE, and ME has one vote that I think is a weak Dem, and could theoretically swing, if I recall correctly.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Gravel Gravy posted:

My IQ is high,
Like really, super high score,
You're all just haters.

I hope you don't mind my small change, but I think it really improves the end result.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

AceRimmer posted:

Let's do it!
code:

Vice President of the United States
Rick Perry

Department of State
Marco Rubio

Department of the Treasury
Bobby Jindal

Department of Defense
Rick Santorum

Department of Justice
Carly Fiorina

Department of the Interior
Scott Walker
 
Department of Agriculture
Mike Huckabee
 
Department of Commerce
John Kasich

Department of Labor
Rand Paul

Department of Health and Human Services
Chris Christie
 
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Ben Carson
 
Department of Transportation
Ted Cruz
:thumbsup:

The best part about this is what's left unsaid. :allears:

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
I think I will be content if we manage to get Tim Heidecker to make a music video in support of Donald Trump before he bows out.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Slate reports on how Fox News has added one small provision to their debate criteria designed to keep Trump out.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
In related California Trump news, California state lawmakers are calling for the state to end ties with Trump while Trump piņatas sell like hot cakes.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Full Battle Rattle posted:

He's killing it. His crowd might legitimately be bigger than anything Bernie's got, if he really is at 11,000.

2016 Presidential Primary Thread: The Silent Majority Strikes Back

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Over at Vox, Andrew Prokop, who has been writing some of their Trump articles, has posted some of the e-mails he has received from Trump supporters in an attempt to study and understand their psyche.

Highlights:



ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Absurd Alhazred posted:

This is hopefully good news, but isn't it more of a USPol/MidEast Thread issue?

It is.

Until every Republican candidate and their mother comes out of the woodwork tomorrow to denounce it, say it harms our greatest best ally in the Middle East Israel, and say how they're rolling back the plan if elected.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Iron Crowned posted:

I thought compromise means that I get everything I want, and you get nothing that you want :confused:

Depends. Are you a Congressional Republican?

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Who now will carry the torch of Metrification?

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

gradenko_2000 posted:

I think switching over to the metric system would require ratification across states that wouldn't ever ever happen?

Nah. As an economic/trade issue it could pretty much be legislated by Congress alone.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Shifty Pony posted:

because some dumbass is going to answer with some atrocity like bologna and cheese and we really don't want that fucker anywhere near State Dinners.

Under these criteria, Scott Walker is clearly the most qualified to be president.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

JT Jag posted:

Actually most if the thread has been making fun of the latest thing that a Republican candidate has said. Like at least 75% I'd guess.

The other 25% is people arguing whether a vote for Sanders is okay or horrible.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July



No word from Trump spokesman as to whether he can do the hully-gully.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Well I guess after tonight the remaining moderates in the GOP are left with a choice between the guy nobody likes, the guy everybody hates, and the guy nobody knows.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Josh Lyman posted:

This guy on MSNBC said Rubio had hundreds of unbound delegates. What?

Could be lovely phrasing. Rubio had several hundred delegates which, depending on state rules, are either unbound, bound to another candidate based on secret ballot of those delegates, reallocated as if Rubio had not been on the ballot, or remain bound to him.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
please tell me that this station to station cover band is being recorded for posterity

i want video graphic proof

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
2016 GOP Collapse: Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

finally, a party full of white men who used to wear black t-shirts that read "i reject your reality and substitute my own"

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

The Glumslinger posted:

"I will present the facts truthfully and clearly"

Politifacts rated this statements mostly false true

he hasn't actually presented anything yet so we rate this technically true!

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Zaphod42 posted:

This is awful, but Hillary is going to loving eviscerate this guy in a 1-on-1

Actually, Trump is probably going to win the first debate!

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

trump will def have a heart attack in the next 8 years

you laugh but one of my pro-republican family members has decided to diagnose hillary with congestive heart failure from the video this morning

they then pointed out that if hillary died in office we'd have a roman catholic president again so uh

rip hillary, victim of the vast republican catholic conspiracy i guess???

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

what kind of weirdo knows enough about tim kaine to know what church he goes to

watch where you're posting bub

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

magiccarpet posted:

the alt right wished and wished and wished

and hillary got the sniffles

the secret is real

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

Hillary Monsanto-AlSaud

Hillary Monsanto-Malmaison

I guess that makes her a Bonaparte or something then?

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ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

how is trump going to beat a psychic in the debates

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