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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

50k is not that much and I see no problem with promising no tax rises in that bracket. The fiscal charter is bad though.

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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Fill it by drawing lots imho.
Edit: Super beaten.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

dont be mean to me posted:

so basically, with a 52-48 vote, you've been damned to either neoliberal or fascist darkness

daaaaaaaaaaaang

Why choose?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

euphronius posted:

is any place in Western Europe completely out of the EU?

Don't think you'll find anything west of Belarus.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pissflaps posted:

So, in fact, nobody?

Countries with anti-satellite missles.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

The UK can't kill no deal unilaterally without canceling Brexit as a whole.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

On the bright side I'm pretty sure that access to fishing in British waters is more permissive under EU rules than it would be after you build the Brexit wall. Then, if you just emergency slaughter all the live stock, you can probably feed the whole of Britain on fish soup and horse feed.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Do the amedments say that parliament will withdraw A40 to avoid no deal? Because otherwise it is a vote to maybe have a vote.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

tarbrush posted:

Which don't actually conflict with anything on the labour manifesto, and are pretty effective at preventing companies ransoming counties for hand outs to prevent them leaving.

To be fair, the manifesto is hardly the highest ambition of the labour party's left wing. There are a lot of good things you can do within the EU frame - work and there are also quite a few rules you can get away with ignoring. But I'm sure that if you are in your twenties and join a left-wing political party you'll want more than gradual change towards a somewhat more social democratic system of government.
The problem is of course how to get there from here.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Cerv posted:

no actually the Amazon "HQ2" auction was cool and good and it's necessary for the UK to legalise that for the road to socialism

To be fair the whole of Luxembourg's buisnessmodel is doing those tax scams, so I wouldn't say the EU did a particularly good job in banning them.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

CoolCab posted:

i have this weird sensation that the second labour comes out for a second ref they're calling a general

Is the glorious plan to burn all food reserves and medicine, then have Corbyn and a few Tories sent the A50 revocation so the English survive the winter? And then immediately call for a new snap election to get rid of the traitors who dolchstoßed the nation?
Or just plain lunacy.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Gato posted:



E: there's also a scene where our hero has to race against time to stop Crobyn exposing said Conservative minister's complicity in war crimes in Africa

Can that be real?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Opferwurst posted:

I guess it's possible, but I don't know what the gently caress that would even mean. There is a clear majority against no-deal, which, with only two weeks to go, automatically means an extension. Why would a MP vote against a no-deal on one day and literally the next day vote for a no-deal? I know there is an iodine deficiency crisis in the UK and all that, but that would be a totally new level of idiocy.

Why would a MP vote against May's deal but have confidence in the government? I'm not sure what the point of a delay would even be if it is clear that May's deal is dead, she isn't going anywhere and also isn't changing her mind. Just get it over with.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

slumdoge millionare posted:

Yep, and farage is calling in favors in italy to make ithappen

The only people owing Farage a favor are those he helped do currency fraud after the referendum and I don't think that was the Lega.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Falcorum posted:

London fucks off into the sky.

As in, the whole city.

Carried by giant bats I hear.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Samurai Sanders posted:

Wait, can May herself just say nah no Brexit to the EU?

The ECJ wrote that the memberstate can revoke at any time but has to respect its own constitutional requirements. So there'd have to be a vote.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Caught in the spam folder.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Glenn Quebec posted:

May: I resign.....doot dee doot doot.. hmmMmmhm.. *smacks lips and walks inside. Closes door.*

High fives Cameron and then it is Boris' turn to top it.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Juliet Whisky posted:

If you wanted to win a vote in parliament on anything then it would probably be a good idea to speak with the various factions, although, confusingly, most of them are contained within the Conservative Party.

No doubt, but one after the other would be the way to do it.
Hello pope Francis and anti-pope Crowley. Care for some tea?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

brugroffil posted:

Theresa May is treating this like Groundhog Day, repeating the same motions over and over and over again until she works everything out just right!



except she's not actually reliving the same day

You have to change the motions though.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Former DILF posted:



I just saw this ad where can i download it :allears:

Hard pass.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

But what would you call Jeremy Hunt?

Is this a joke question? I can think of a good rie starting with c.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

prefect posted:

Didn't they get a majority to say "we don't want a no-deal situation"? What's going to happen when the options are "cancel Article 50 or No Deal"?

That does nothing. They have no no-no-deal button.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

StashAugustine posted:

What's the difference between 'customs union' and the labor plan?

Custom Union does not give you frictionless trade. For this you'd need the Single Market. The Labour plan is SM + Unicorns, I think.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Is asking someone to self-harm still a probation offense?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Are they going to give her a stern talking to?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

V. Illych L. posted:

probably focus grouped well

Might have underpaid the PR guy, who is now still snickering about the "CUKs"

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Brexit: Torygeddon? | naked capitalism posted:

One councillor in the East Midlands told me:

“I had somebody who was so furious he started getting a nosebleed. Even then he kept talking about the local Conservative MP letting him down.”

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

So you got defacto Norway now? Cool. I'm honestly surprised that the swivel-eyed Brexiteers seemed to have the correct take here, a long extension means no Brexit at all. If the EU can't bring themselves to kick them out now then they won't in October. And the UK will not have it's poo poo together either. That's also a surprise vindication for Labour's strategy of not treating the Brexit negotiations as the one and only thing of importance, like most of Corbyn's reply guys demand.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

HiHo ChiRho posted:

How is it that Labour is doing so bad in that poll?

Polling is hard and the situation unpredecented. You can probably get any result you want by correcting the ratio of olds and youngs by how many of them you think would vote.

genericnick has issued a correction as of 18:05 on Apr 17, 2019

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Agean90 posted:

do the when sinn fein thing where they refuse to take their seats? Idk

I can guarantee you that every single one of them will max their expenses account.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Valko posted:

Is it safe to browse ED these days? I know it is not safe for work or the brain I'm talking viruses here.

Noscript is your friend.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Dance Officer posted:

NATO is the only way GB can hope to stay relevant, why would you want to leave.

You can still read about how important you are in your own papers, if it means so much to you. Small countries manage.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Samurai Sanders posted:

Oh, that. So not about Brexit.

...or are they connected somehow?
All connected:
https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1120342490375237633

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Truga posted:

ok fine you win i guess i'll watch

Don't unless you really like Zizek or something. It's cringy but I didn't find it worth it.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Martin BadClixx posted:

So corbyn is trying to be big tent for both remainers and leavers?


Why? He seems kinda succ everyone now and then

Corb's party members hate Brexit yet a lot of voters he needs outside of London voted for it. And for all the good it would do for as long as May stays in office his position could also be to eat all the Brexits himself.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Jose posted:

it owns that this guy is now an elected iraqi official

I thought he lost?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

twoday posted:

They tried that already!



It didn’t work because it turned out that everyone else was also an rear end in a top hat

Meh. Imagine you had given up after the first try at not making GBS threads your pants

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Vitamin P posted:

I voted Labour and that came up before, unless you are Sensible Centrist Guardian-posting that Labour are neo-fascist hellfuckers you are misinformed.

And I stand by the obvious distinction that people wanting to leave the EU aren't all far-right Identity Europa ethnostatists.

But we can aggree that everyone voting for the BREXIT in the election voted for the very obvious fash party?

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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Jazerus posted:

corbyn would represent a rejection of the post-thatcher consensus much like bernie would be a rejection of the post-reagan consensus

Think Omar instead of Sanders. His domestic policies are pretty nice, but the big break would be in foreign affairs.

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