Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

what a loving farce

# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 21:43

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 07:58

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Really hoping mccain ties the clinton investigation w/ the trump-russia investigation as he did last week

# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 21:56

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

STAC Goat posted:

Its pretty clear that the SOP of anyone working in the Administration is going to be to answer no questions by evoking the pretense of executive privilege without Trump ever actually using it so he can't be criticized for that.

So basically more of everyone crawling through the mud to protect their king.

I really wish one of them would have pushed it as "you aren't answering my question and this is heading towards contempt of congress".

Several of them laid out the different categories he could invoke for not answering: taking the 5th, classified information, attny/client privilege (maybe?), and executive privilege. They made it clear his refusal wasn't under any of those categories but then just sort of let it happen anyway.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 22:18

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Chilichimp posted:

All you need to know about the American Working Class is often a worker will lose their poo poo and murder a bunch of co-workers, and this premise isn't considered far-fetched, nor is it treated as shocking when it occurs.

I was on a business trip last year and was in the first floor lobby of some building in the bay area waiting for an elevator, and right by where i was standing was the entrance to some company's bullpen office area with lots of people busy doing their thing. Two young guys emerged from around the corner right by the entrance to that office, loaded up with large nerf rapid-fire rifle things with tons of extra nerf ammo strapped to them. With big grins they charge through the door and start shooting up their workmates, the doors close behind them as they keep going and I was left alone in the lobby with the sounds of surprised yelps and playful protests--good natured but still shouts and screams coming through a closed door. It was unsettling how close of a parody it was from where I stood.

It's like Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow where some people in England just accept as a part of daily existence that a V2 could at any moment come crashing down on you. We americans--not all but who's counting--have addressed the prospect of being part of a spontaneous shooting by folded it in to our way of life.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 19:18

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/875039582835933184

I dunno even with this according to republican doctrine he was still a responsible gun owner (and therefore a patriot) right up until he opened fire this morning

# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 20:01

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Kaboobi posted:

and he was allowed to have a gun because...?

It's important to point out that the same people he targeted would, if you asked them yesterday, have been fully behind a person like him owning as many guns as possible even with that history. At least in any statement that the NRA would have a chance of hearing.

Their answer to this already is to have more armed people, and they will maintain that answer under any and all circumstances until every person in the nation is in a mexican standoff with eachother at which point our society will achieve the singularity

# ¿ Jun 14, 2017 22:56

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Dietrich posted:

This is why people need to vote in midterms.

It's also why people need to vote even if their state is a lock for one of the presidental candidates or if they personally hate the candidates. Downticket votes matter a lot.

quote:

Has anyone ever studied if the pendulum effect of dem->gop->dem has anything to do with the fact that every other decade the votes that decide the party in power during redistricting happens to coincide with the presidential vote?

I think it's been formally studied quite a lot but the general wisdom is if your preferred politics aren't in power, you are more motivated to get out and vote. And if you are happy(ish) with who's in power then you (the aggregate you) are more complacent and might forget about the midterms while focusing on other parts of your life.

Generally when the executive branch swings to the other party, that party takes a drubbing on the next midterms, particularly in the house and less so in the senate. This didn't happen with dubya but that can be attributed to 9/11 kind of throwing a wrench into our political climate for '02. But before that the last time a president from the other political party took office and didn't suffer a loss in house seats for the party in the following midterms was FDR, and the country was of course in the throws of the great depression.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 17:15

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

A district that has GOP margins of 20+ for decades having an election where they instead win by < 4 being interpreted as "yeah the comeback isn't happening we're doomed" ... is like getting winter snow in an area for one week when historically it usually got snow for many weeks, and saying "well it still snowed so that settles all this global warming nonsense".

Keep in mind if you gerrymander when you are behind demographically, you are basically giving your opponent some districts and packing them as full to 100% of their votes as possible, and you can win the rest of the districts by stacking them so you have comfortable but not ample margins. The only downside to this is if there is--oh, i don't know--a 15-20 point swing nationwide, you are spread thin and are going to take a bath. The only districts you keep are ones like GA-6.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 18:03

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Party Plane Jones posted:

Oh, in case you forgot

gently caress North Carolina.
https://twitter.com/broadly/status/877962436753727489

Cool so I take it that even though NC surrendered in the civil war, since they did willingly engage in it the US is now allowed to finish dismantling their power structure by overwhelming force?

# ¿ Jun 22, 2017 20:48

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

They don't care about incremental progress. they want their communism now, and if you don't give it to them, you deserve the guillotine. These people wonder why the DNC ignores them, and then they go vote for Jill Stein.

The people I know who vote for jill stein do not support communism/socialism, are deep into the seth rich conspiracy, are usually anti-vax, and have resigned themselves to going "well hillary would have been just as bad" as a response to any trump scandal. I don't think many real leftists give a poo poo about her, but yes they do realize incrementalism has not worked very well in recent times.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 18:27

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

I did it. I found what might be the most depressing video on the internet https://www.facebook.com/guyhumorofficial/videos/300325783745839/

There is no angle to it that doesn't crush my soul.

# ¿ Jun 23, 2017 20:44

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/Scout_Finch/status/881935058063564800

https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/881282678452097024

# ¿ Jul 3, 2017 22:14

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Are they still in the meeting? All i need in my day today is to see the ~8 second video of trump's expression when they first emerge from their meeting. After watching that I'm probably good to just leave work early and go to bed.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 17:15

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

DaveWoo posted:

Also:

https://twitter.com/Lucian_Kim/status/883376519942463489

I feel safer already.

House of Cards keeps being less believable every season and yet even they'd reject a story arc like this.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 18:49

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

I'd rather go back to mortgage tax chat than having the white nationalist reg of the week stroll in to try out hot takes that we've definitely never thought about, backed with piles of live leak vids that I'm definitely going to take the time to watch.

If the irish weren't white for a long time then it's not about melanin. I'd say just welcome everyone on the planet to the club of "being white" and then we'd have no miscegenation, no problem. I'm sure our friend will love this win-win solution

# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 21:36

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Mind_Taker posted:

https://twitter.com/SportsFunhouse/status/884493741737873408

Yeah, we're not in a West Wing or House of Cards reality.

It's more like a cross between Veep and Thick of It.

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 10, 2017

# ¿ Jul 10, 2017 20:42

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Bicyclops posted:

Rand Paul refuses to sign the toilet paper unless he can wipe with it, forming the letters "Kill all poors," Collins won't unless they tear off a piece and give it to opiate addicts to wipe their noses with.

Cruz will hold a presser to talk about how he personally had a chance to review the texture of the toilet paper. He found it far too soft for the sort of hard choices this country has to make and announce he will be voting against it.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 18:28

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Not that this isn't already crazy but isn't taking photos/vids in the chambers normally not allowed by the public?

When I was there as a dumb tourist on a boring day many years ago we were told no photos, and another set of tourists snapped some pics from another balcony and security appeared very quickly to have a nice little chat with them.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 19:52

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

evilweasel posted:

people need to read that politico article, trump has massively hosed up yet again

basically, the House had a problem with their military budget bill: conservatives wouldn't vote for the bill unless it stripped funding for sexual reassignment surgeries, while moderates refused to agree to discriminate against trans people, and they couldn't pass it with moderates + democrats because democrats won't vote for it with funding for The Wall. so, they can't fund the military at all unless they give up the wall. that is...embarrassing.

so Ryan hit on an idea: get Trump to issue an order saying the military won't pay for sexual reassignment surgeries, and the House no longer needs to include it in the legislation at all, it's no longer their problem

so he asked Trump, and Trump appears to have basically misinterpreted what was being asked for and banned all trans people entirely which was not at all what Ryan wanted

and now, even Republicans are like "uh this is a little too segregationey even for me guys" and i bet that bill now gets trapped in a debate over if it should overturn that executive order or not instead of a much quieter funding battle

The only thing is even he can walk this back since the royal decree on twitter isn't binding in the least and he can make the real order the correct one and (ignore / cast blame on whatever) any mentions of the disparity.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 19:41

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Have to say there have been some really strong contenders for a new thread title, and the current one has been around a while, but boy does it earn its place.

# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 22:27

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Trump tweets on anything foreign policy read like the diplomacy messages from a bellicose nation you get when playing a 4X game.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2017 01:54

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

I do feel bad for his loving kid. The mom seems alright so maybe he/she will have a good upbringing, indifferent father notwithstanding. Can you imagine growing up and reaching the age where you fully learn about all this? Especially in the information age where hardly anything is lost.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 19:56

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

disjoe posted:

Does The Mooch's short tenure break some sort of record?

According to wikipedia he upset the previous record by one day.

The previous shortest stint of Comm Dir. was this guy:

quote:

In 1987, Koehler, who was friends with Ronald Reagan, became the White House Communications Director.[1] However, Koehler resigned after just one week in the White House after it became public that he had been a member of the Deutsches Jungvolk, a Nazi government youth division, when he was just ten years old.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 20:07

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

morcant posted:

It's a wonderful show. I just wish there were more of it... I still haven't tried Veep, though.

You probably know this but for anyone who might not: the movie "In The Loop" is an extension of the show The Thick of It and is quite good so make sure you catch that if you like the show.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 20:43

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

poo poo I just remembered there's a part in The Thick of It where a new cabinet member makes some goof and is worried she's going to get fired. Malcom Tucker reassures her that it won't happen because if the PM fires a cabinet member 2 weeks after he appointed her, it will look like his gently caress up, not hers.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 22:11

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

NFX posted:

When this presidency is eventually dramatized, coming up with a title for the film is going to be easy.

All The President's Men 2.

Uh sorry but "Omnishambles" is obviously the title.

That word should be an alias on wikipedia that just sends you to the page for the 45th pres.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2017 23:42

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Yeah I'd grab colin immediately and then Barry'O on the way out if time permits

# ¿ Aug 1, 2017 01:31

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

evilweasel posted:

sanders supporters have never really reckoned with the fact (a) he lost the primary, and it was not close: he had no hope of success for the second half and was losing by much more than Hillary was losing when obama had effectively locked up the nomination and (b) he is significantly more popular than clinton because republicans supported him as an anti-clinton and to try to split the democratic base, but if he ran he would immediately lose that support

i mean, clinton was stupidly popular in the middle of obama's term, because she was a non-partisan figure (at the time) and vaugely preferable to obama for some republicans. that, uh, changed.

Does this look as stark with super delegates taken out of the equation? Obviously Obama out-performed Bernie as the underdog, but he overtook HRC because he got enough of the regular delegates to start getting many of the super delegates to act as a catalyst and shutter over to his side. Bernie fell short of that but because he didn't get the SDs it makes his loss look even more pronounced. Plus an argument can be made that the dem infrastructure had a stronger resistance to bernie than obama.

Yes he still lost but I didn't think he tracked that far behind Obama in '08.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 16:58

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

evilweasel posted:

Absolutely: that analysis is about pledged delegates, not including superdelegates. Bernie in 2016 underperformed Clinton in 2008 with regard to pledged delegates.

Crows Turn Off posted:

His loss is more pronounced if you look at the popular vote totals. Sanders lost by nearly 4 million votes, or about 25% of the popular vote.

Ok, thanks folks. I had a misconception about that, probably from got it from some corner of lefty twitter that was burnt after the primary was a done deal last year.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 17:05

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

This might have been posted, it's hard to keep up sometimes but this is a ~~good~~* well written account of our reality with NK.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/

* I can't really let a word like "good" sit unassociated near this article because it is pretty loving grim

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Aug 9, 2017

# ¿ Aug 9, 2017 00:02

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Ague Proof posted:

Not to get all 4d chess but Trump does disguise a lot of that malevolence as blunders.

I don't know if it's 4d chess when my "everyone who knows him understands he is a loving racist" uncles use more advanced methods to claim one meaning behind their words while assuring the intended meaning still got through.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2017 23:51

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

marshmonkey posted:

https://twitter.com/marykbruce/status/896131268546449409

Jesus he just runs through the entire playbook for bosses who are trying to keep everyone from thinking about how badly he's loving up.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2017 01:08

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

I just finished "The Battle Cry of Freedom" and am more pumped than ever to see that poo poo get torn down. The Civil War definitely could have gone better but It's kind of a small miracle that it shook out the way it did particularly with the antebellum south being destroyed and unconditional emancipation (and arguably the concept of a single nation instead of a union of nations taking hold). Those could have gone other ways, but we really badly fumbled reconstruction and basically the ~90 years that followed Appomattox.

Those loving monuments did not help and Sherman's attitude while touring SC was basically the galactic brain moment of that era.

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Aug 14, 2017

# ¿ Aug 14, 2017 23:53

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Medically-informed cautions about keeping yourself safe when kicking the poo poo out of a freshly toppled symbol of a dead and evil society that was fueled by harnessing an appalling humanitarian crisis. Now that's the sort of thread derail I can get into

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 01:04

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

FizFashizzle posted:

Alright, I want to talk about what i call the Moral Imperative of Doxx'ing Nazis.

There have to be consequences for their actions.

Totally agree and this is really well written. Would you be offended if I lifted some of it to deposit in some FB threads? I have a few liberal friends who are getting into a mode of: "yeah CVille's attacks were horrible, but witch hunts are dangerous and also badwrong". And ok you should be very cautious of false positives and bringing heat to someone who didn't have poo poo to do with it, but otherwise gently caress that. Shaun King's TL recently is absolutely the right approach.

quote:

now i'd like a spicy chicken sandwich, a frostee, and some fries

This is the only correct Wendy's order :colbert:

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 15, 2017

# ¿ Aug 15, 2017 21:32

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/897610783223361536

Yeah I know that feeling when I had to pad out an essay at the last minute

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 01:10

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/897577114161033218

I've already asked my heart and it gave me an answer, but where is this on the richter scale of "eh, it happens a bit for each administration"?

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 01:20

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

^^^^ In the decade before the civil war, the south tried really loving hard to incite a rebellion in cuba and other parts of the caribbean to install a slavery-friendly puppet government, and/or just invade themselves. The writing was on the wall on their relationship with the north and the fight they had to keep slavery expanding west along with the union, so they looked south and southwest.

mcmagic posted:

Anyone running as a D is going to hire D's to run their administration. You vote for anyone with a D next to their name in a general election. Even Fuckerberg.

You also always vote in every election. Don't gently caress the beleaguered downticket in your local area just because the POTUS slot is destined to be a shitshow

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Aug 16, 2017

# ¿ Aug 16, 2017 21:14

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

Kale posted:

Robert E Lee basically chose the side his state ended up on as far as I've ever been able to tell

More or less. Lee thought slavery was bad and secession was worse, but state identity was a much bigger deal back then and he was less disgusted with joining a bad cause than he was by turning on his fellow virginians. He dragged his feet a little to declare for the south and generally agonized over it, if you want to put him in a generous light.

Pretty sure he holds the record for an enemy commander that has killed the most americans, so yeah at least he was right to disagree about enshrining his loving likeness in the role of said commander for a monument to stand on american loving soil.

Bhaal fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Aug 17, 2017

# ¿ Aug 17, 2017 00:58

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 07:58

Bhaal: Jul 13, 2001; I ain't going down alone; Dr. Infant, MD

My 'not racist, but...' trump-supporting uncle on facebook posted:

I want all railroads removed from American soil because the owners were oppressive to the Irish and the Chinese. They offend me and I want them stricken from our country ! .......Just joking but they need to quit tearing our history down this is madness

Note: that side of the family has zero ties--ancestrally or geographically--to any place farther south that Milwaukee.

Why does this poo poo turn these guys--who above all see themselves as avatars of stoic masculinity--into such crybabies?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2017 16:45

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