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Memento posted:I don't think I've ever seen more than one or two "evacuate now" warnings on emergency.vic.gov.au There's also three "It's too late to evacuate, get inside and hope for the best, don't wait for help because it's not coming" warnings Edit:   Edit: we're now up to nine "Evacuate now" warnings Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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The fires around the Falls Creek/Omeo area just got upgraded from "Evacuate immediately if you can" to "Too late to get out, bunker down now" status. The fires are expected to hit the Omeo township at around midnight, which is in about two and a half hours. Edit: tomorrow's going to suck, conditions will be at least as bad as NYE and maybe even worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LLu-wW0Aa0 Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Jan 3, 2020 11:33
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ewe2 posted:You can't fire-break for a firestorm anyway, it's creating its own wind, throwing embers far ahead of it, and sucking up oxygen which further propels it along. These firestorms are also attacking territory very rarely touched by fire, unheard-of places like the west of Tasmania and the Snowy Mountains, places you associate with snow rather than fire. Yep, from what I've heard hazard reduction burns don't make forests fire proof (especially if they were done the previous Autumn and the forest has had 9 months to build up fuel again) , it just makes them somewhat more fire resistant and puts them in a better position to be managed if a fire does break out. If there's been unprecedented hot weather for a sustained period and unprecedented lack of rain and strong winds and dry lightning strikes then they'll burn regardless. Here's a facebook post about it, from the wife of a bushfire suppression professional. (He'd post himself except this season he won't have time to scratch his arse from November until March) https://www.facebook.com/SerrynT/posts/10219086058636105
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http://emergency.vic.gov.au/ currently has four "evacuate immediately if possible" warnings and fourteen "It's too late to evacuate" warnings, the situation is extremely hosed The cold front is currently sweeping through all those areas and bringing some extreme lightning storms which is very very bad news because those gale force winds from a new direction will open up a bunch of new & bigger fire fronts and all that lightning will create a whole bunch more fires
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Jan 4, 2020 06:36
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Bureau of Meteorology says the wind gusts in the Omeo region might get up to 125km/h due to the weather that is being generated by the fires  Burt Sexual posted:Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? Nope, hardly ever
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Jan 4, 2020 07:04
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Mallacoota today: https://twitter.com/smh/status/1213351361594548224 Tathra right now, 6pm in the afternoon: https://twitter.com/PhilWilliamsABC/status/1213358374814797824
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Stevefin posted:A warning for those that maybe see the Prime Ministers tweet/fb post or whatever, do not donate through that, none of it will go to fire fighters, but to the coalition member fund. Apparently they've already removed the donate button in that link, but it was still a lovely look
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Raged posted:I need some to turn this into a song quick. Easy #1 on the Hottest 100 this year. There's another quote immediately after that one, if anyone needs more samplezzzz https://twitter.com/matttburke/status/1213398916890185728?s
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Here's some photos from someone who was evacuated from Mallacoota on the naval ship HMAS Choules: https://www.facebook.com/joanne.oneill.750/posts/2992403004105578 poo poo. The fires haven't been that close to Cooma but they're surrounded by a whole bunch of them and the smoke has been horrific today: https://twitter.com/holly_corb/status/1213334092403494912 A flood on top of that is really the icing on the cake.  Edit: Cooma's in the centre of this map:  https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/ Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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Jan 4, 2020 14:25
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Dr. Garbanzo posted:I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if the fires to south meet with the ones closer to Sydney before going through the Royal National Park to hit Sydney proper.  https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/fire-information/fires-near-me That big chunk of burnt out land at the top is over 600,000 hectares, the smaller bit further down south is over 300,000 hectarers. The population of the Greater Sydney area between those two big fires is about 4.8 million people. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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Dr. Garbanzo posted:Don’t forget the fire further to the south that is on its way to meet the “South Fire” in your image. Given how these things have been moving of late it doesn’t take a whole lot. Oh yeah, if we zoom out a little you can see that there's MASSIVE fires all along the NSW coast:  The distance from the top of the northernmost one to the bottom of the southernmost one in that pictures is about 500 km (310 miles), and there's more big fires further north around Port Macquarie and Grafton and down south near Eden right down into Victoria. poo poo's real hosed. Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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It's 6:30am on the east coast and conditions are still extremely hosed down in East Gippsland. The Vic CFA emergency site currently has two current "Evacuate now" warnings and eleven "Seek shelter, it's too late to evacuate" warnings, some of which were just upgraded in the last half hour.  Some of those official warnings are incredibly grim, flat out telling people "If you leave your house now you will die"  Goddamn 
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From Facebook, this is apparently an aerial photo of Melbourne taken a few hours ago: I think that photo is taken from the east (that seems to be Yarra Bend park near the bottom right) so my house would be somewhere off to the right of the CBD just a little way outside the photo.  Helith posted:Also it's raining here in Sydney! Not enough to put out any fires but any rain is so welcome. A mate of mine up in Cooma reported that they had a bit of rain yesterday and the raindrops were just rancid black mud:  
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Jan 6, 2020 08:01
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Synthbuttrange posted:'Australia takes 3 fire damage.' Also 2 water damage, tropical cyclone Blake up off the coast of the Pilbara region in WA is expected to make landfall soon and develop into a category 2 cyclone which will cause flooding around the Broome and Port Hedland region. BOM video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orOIcCpQJJc Welcome to the start of cyclone season, hope your pool floaties didn't melt in the fires!
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Gridlocked posted:Yeah my SES crew got told Feb is apparently looking to be floody for us I can't wait to see who'll be PM by then and how they'll gently caress up during that natural disaster 
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dr_rat posted:So well we have like one or two glorious days where the cyclones and the fires counterbalance each other and all is well in the land, or will if just flip immediately from one too the other... Maybe they'll combine and the bushfires will heat up the floods to boiling point, like that melting water tank that dunkill posted 
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drunkill posted:Yeah black saturday changed heaps of things for the CFA. The message hadn't quite sunk in for everyone since there were still 1000+ tourists down in Mallacoota who didn't heed the evacuation warnings, got caught unprepared and had to shelter on the beach with the locals for 24+ hours waiting to get evacuated by the ADF but I'm pretty certain everyone in the country will take those warnings way more seriously now. Also bushfires just used to be a problem for people living out bush when I was a kid but now they're directly impacting the lives of pretty much everyone in the country, whether by smoke haze or transportation lines being cut or the power grid being cut or similar. Almost everyone knows someone who was caught up in the fires or had to be evacuated or lost a house or came close to losing a house, almost everyone's had a nervous day where they were worrying about the safety of someone they know and were glued to the TV waiting for news, almost everyone's seen photos of places they've visited in the past which are now completely destroyed. It's a whole different level now 
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Quantum Shart posted:Looks like jordies couldn't help but be jordies Just in case people were wondering, it's true https://twitter.com/james_findlay/status/1212164870596001792
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Gridlocked posted:In Vitoria: And by 'change in weather' we mean: quote:Wangaratta and Bairnsdale are set to hit 39 and 38 degrees on Friday Edit: there's whole chunks of NSW that are forecast to hit high 30s and low 40s the next three days running, Friday looks particularly spicy Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Maximum Sexy Pigeon posted:They're fighting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW01ac8j_6I
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spaceblancmange posted:I heard my Mum verbatim recite the greenies are to blame talking points and ended saying that Greta should go back to school. I really didn't think boomer brain rot would get her but I guess it was inevitable once she started using facebook. I was in the car with my Dad at Christmas and he tried to recite the "Greenies are to blame" stuff and I just went "No they're not" and quickly ran over the points why that's just dumb and he dropped the subject imediately. Today I had a long talk with him on the phone about the fires and he didn't bring up the Greens once.  He did try going "Well what do these people expect ScoMo to do???" so I had to explain all his fuckups.
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The number of animals killed by the bushfires has been upgraded to at least 800 million in NSW alone, but that's a very very conservative estimate and the actual number is probably several billion. At least one species, the long-footed Potoroo, is likely to have been completely wiped out and rendered extinct due to these fires. Those numbers don't include insects but there'd definitely be hundreds of billions destroyed. Large areas of old-growth rainforests have burnt which is just unprecedented and scientists just don't have any idea how long they'd take to regenerate, if at all. Australia's biodiversity has taken a massive hit and we're not even halfway through summer yet and historically we've seen a lot of our biggest bushfires in February so we may not have even seen the worst of it yet. https://www.theage.com.au/national/many-many-billions-of-animals-feared-to-have-died-in-bushfires-20200108-p53pvk.html
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Lube Enthusiast posted:Kindly requesting a goon approved app/website that’s up to date on which road’s are closed off cause of the fires. Asking because My dad’s doing a Canberra to Perth drive soon. tia lube enthusiast The Eyre highway across the Nullabor has been closed since Christmas: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-07/nullarbor-still-cut-off-by-bushfires-eyre-highway-closed/11843266 There was a bushfire back in '07 where three truckies died trying to cross the Great Eastern Highway so the road authorities aren't loving around and taking any chances these days, even though this has severely hosed up commerce between the states. The good news is that there's some alternate routes, the bad news is that the only other fully sealed road adds an additional 67 hours to the trip. That's not hyperbole  (There's a bunch of unsealed roads that cross WA but driving across the Great Victoria Desert on an unsealed road in these conditions is a really bad idea.) Apparently there's been several tourists who decided to try and sneak around the "road block" via "back streets" that were recommended by google maps which turned out to be bush tracks through the middle of nowhere and the cops had to go and rescue them: https://www.kalminer.com.au/news/kalgoorlie-miner/google-maps-gets-overseas-tourists-stuck-near-goldfields-fire-zone-ng-b881426426z tl;dr: tell your dad to just sit and wait until they announce that the Eyre highway has been reopened, or catch a plane and hire a car in Perth Edit: oh I forgot to add, there's a category 2 cyclone smashing the NW coast of the country so that alternate sealed route up north might be flooded out sometime soon https://twitter.com/WA_Roads/status/1214889077201342465 Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Slugnoid posted:i work for the victorian state government in the building industry and i could list off the top of my head at least fifteen high rise buildings you could turn into grenfell just by sticking a lit cig between the cladding panels on the ground floor. Whoa, lucky the CBD hasn't been inundated with smoke haze which is full of burning embers! /checks notes UH OH
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Neddy Seagoon posted:How long do we reckon the PM's got before he gets the traditional Party Knife In the Back? It's practically Auspol tradition at this point, and nobody's happy with ScoMo now. The first thing he did when he claimed office was to get the party rules changed so that a spill motion required 2/3 of the partyroom to vote out the current leader. (Note that Labor already had a similar rule in place, and an even higher threshold of 3/4 to remove a standing Labor PM.) I wouldn't be surprised if they ignored that and replaced him anyway because the LNP is hosed if they continue with him as their figurehead
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Nam Taf posted:I’m in Perth for the week and yeh, today got a bit hazy out east. As I went home this arvo the clouds definitely had a brown tinge. Leaving the pub this arvo smelt like I walked into a fireplace. poo poo’s getting smokey here. The forecast shows that Perth is going to be the hottest and the driest state capital in the country these next seven days, with maximums in the mid to high 30s and not a drop of rain until next Thursday. That bushfire just south of Perth around Casuarina has been issued with a "Evacuate immediately if possible" warning https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/ So yeah, good luck with all that GotLag posted:The smell of the funeral pyre for Kangaroo Island has arrived in Adelaide
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BOM rain radar for eastern Victoria, there's a nice big band of rain moving through but it looks like it'll mostly miss East Gippsland where it's most needed: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR681.loop.shtml You can see the smoke from the fires up around Canberra on the rain radar. I'm pretty sure that big stretch of cloud from Falls Creek to Orbost is smoke as well.
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nankeen posted:the mass livestock graves break my heart but i'm legit excited for the local invertebrate population Many arthropod species are also pretty hosed thanks to the bushfires, some may have been wiped out in the wild. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/endangered-species-on-kangaroo-island-at-risk-after-bushfire/11843518 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/science/australia-fire-ecology-insects.html
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Most of the day's been "only" in the 150-ish range, it's only in the last few hours that things really went to poo poo. What's probably hosed us is the (thankfully under control) bushfire south of Daylesford, going by the Emergency Victoria Map. There's another in Greensborough, but the wind's probably pushing that away from us at the moment. It's real bad right now, some of the worst air quality readings in the entire world:  http://aqicn.org/city/australia/melbourne/melbourne-cbd/
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Synthbuttrange posted:Expecting it to clear by Thursday. .... but generally speaking summer's not even half over and we're not even up to the (usually) worst part of fire season and there's every indication that fire season conditions will last longer than usual so the smoke haze could keep recurring for the next several months. Edit: this article has some graphics from NASA showing the smoke circling the globe and rising up to 17.7km into the lower stratosphere of the planet https://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-s-bushfire-smoke-will-do-a-full-lap-of-the-earth-nasa-20200114-p53r7z.html Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:1) why when it comes to climate change, do right-wingers all of a sudden have problem with people making money/getting rich off of something? see also: "AL GORE IS GETTING RICH OFF LED BULBS" Conspiracy theory brainworms mixed in with middle class guilt and a healthy dash of FYGM, fed by lovely corrupt media and politicians and incubated via social media. "MY actions are killing the planet? But that would be bad and it's simply not possible for me to be a bad person, it's all lies and they're out to get me there can't be any other explanation!!!" Conspiracy theories are incredibly comforting to people who are desperately panicking and don't understand wtf is going on and lack control over the elements which are impacting their lives. It's really really difficult and overwhelming to even attempt come to terms with all the complex issues at play around climate change but conspiracy theories give them simple answers with simple causes, and simple villains they can unload on.
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RandomPauI posted:Serious comment, I'm glad there's finally going to be some decent rain soon. The sense of relief a bit of rain can provide is immeasurable. BOM says we'll get some heavy rain tomorrow and Thursday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRyOOyFknJ0 The bad news is that areas which have been burnt out are now prone to floods and trees coming down
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drunkill posted:Although it is pretty windy and there is lots of lighting so there may be some issues yet. Yeah maybe a few  http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/
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Bogan Krkic posted:The sun was blood red this morning, the sky has been choked with smoke and now it's bloody hailing in the middle of summer. This is End Of Days poo poo Nah there'd be earthquakes an' poo poo if it was the end of days. Edit: well gently caress http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#!/earthquake/668422
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dr_rat posted:Must say this cold front so far hasn't seem to be the greatest. Some places seem to of gotten decent rain, but quite a few seem to of gotten basically none and just a lot bunch of lightening, which yeah, not ideal. Let's check in on the incident map and see how we're faring!  Okay yeah the SES are gonna be kept busy with that one for a while
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18-month-old kid in country NSW sees rain for the first time in his life: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/little-boy-sees-rain-for-very-first-time/ar-BBYZZUo Pickled Tink posted:Just in case you think there is hope things will turn around politically on the issue, here is evidence to the contrary: Can't have climate change getting in the way of growth!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfSZ0D39AI (Note the date on that video) Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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a hot gujju bhabhi posted:thank god some rain has arrived finally we can start to... If that's not bad enough, the fuckin' alligators are gonna escape https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=641948519878486
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Oh great, first it was alligators running loose and now we've got a flood of pissed-off funnelwebs
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well why not posted:the 20 minute turnaround from fire to flood was speedy even by aus standards. Hope it’s dousing all affected. poo poo's still burning. French Island in western port Vic is also home to one of the last remaining populations of chlamydia-free koalas (which were used to repopulate areas in the mainland) but the residents got a "Evacuate now" warning over an out of control bushfire just an hour ago. https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/bushfire-burning-on-french-island-20200118-p53sme.html 
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