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skasion posted:Sure it does. Starfleet is a human organization. Vulcans had their own organization that was eventually superseded by it. Technology growth was making future stories harder. By the end of Voyager the Federation knows a lot about wormholes, warp 10, borg transwarp conduits and whatnot. Lots of stuff the crew of Voyager couldn't make work would reasonably be perfected once it was in the hands of Federation scientists. If that continues, then in the near future space exploration will be trivial. The alpha and beta quadrants are fully mapped. The Gamma quadrant is likely off limits to avoid coming into conflict with the Founders again. Most of the Delta Quadrant is still undiscovered, but it is heavily infested by Borg, and there were a bunch of other empires that weren't thrilled with Voyager crossing their space. There isn't much unclaimed space left in the entire galaxy. I suppose they could get around that by having inter-galactic travel become possible with the new technologies. A new galaxy could shed a lot of the restrive canon. Maybe even with all the fancy it still takes years to reach the nearest galaxy. Which would b easily passed in stasis but it would mean backup wouldn't be a few days away. But instead it looks like Discovery is going with the Federation having splintered and fallen, with some technological regression so they can just erase any inconvient technologies.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2020 01:55 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 07:18 |
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well why not posted:Mirror stuff is fun but the show is really dragged down by insisting on keeping Giorgiou in it. The constant “in my universe” is just dull and a waste of a once in a generation actor. Maybe the first time she didn't stand right next to him that way, so he didn't have the opportunity to try to go in for a stab. In the federation she's learned to be more tolerant of people standing in stabbing distance at angles she can't see -- a mistake she wouldn't have made 5 years ago. Mirror Stamets seems like a guy who wouldn't take the risk if he wasn't pretty certain of success. If he succeeds he gets the favor of the new emperor, but there' s no penalty for not trying, and the penalty for failure is severe. So if she was standing 3 feet away and he'd have to take a step or two to reach stabbing range that would drastically increase his chance of failure and not be worth the risk.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2020 13:48 |
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Except this is pre-puberty Saru who is scared all the time. All the more reason to kill everyone. Killing everyone is the only way to be safe. Which is basically why the Terrans do it too. Everyone in the mirror universe is ruled by fear. Your choices are be the biggest psychopath in the room or be a victim. The Kelpians have been conditioned to believe that any aggression in a kelpian is a sign of impending madness and death, so they passively accept being perpetual victims. If they decide to stop being victims their fear isn't any more crippling than the fears of other species. Remember that prime Saru was able to be accepted into Starfleet, sent on away missions, and made first officer all before menopause. They knew about his danger sense and didn't consider it a liability. There's no reason mirror kelpians couldn't be total assholes if they got the chance.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2020 14:12 |
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Not exactly sure how this being a Teachable Moment is going to help her molcules from ripping apart by being in the wrong time and universe. Not that I'm ruling it out, mind. You are your molecules. Her molecules want to go home. Maybe if she realizes her universe sucks and she was lucky to get away from it her molecules will decide the prime universe is okay.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2020 15:02 |
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Alchenar posted:Yeah the problem the show has would not be solved if they had 22 episodes. The problem is that even with half that there's enormous amounts of time wasting and wheel spinning and actors they're keeping on the books for some reason but don't have anything to do. If they had 22 episodes they would have time to let all those characters have their focus episodes or at least focus B plots. One week the B plot could be Reno trying to fix up Bryce with some rando in engineering. Zero stakes slice of life stuff. What is life like for Linus? It looks like he's the only Saurian on discovery, and his species may not even be members of the Federation anymore. That sounds really lonely. We spent an episode liberating the Kelpians last season, can we check on them and see the consequences or that? Did they end up genociding the Ba'ul? Figuring out the dilithium thing is important, but it isn't urgent. It doesn't matter if they manage to solve it in 10 weeks or 20. They don't need to find new clues to that mystery every week. There are plenty of save-the-planet-of-the-week A plots out there waiting to be shown.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2020 06:17 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's a little weird that they immediately assume it's fine, when they had just almost been murdered by Control maybe a few days before that? The sphere data wants to be shared and preserved. If it is useful people will want to keep it around, if it is combative people will try to destroy it. It won't let them self-destruct the ship, but other than that one little quirk it seems content to quietly sit back and observe like it has been doing for thousands of years. While Discovery's crew may not have much experience with sapient AI, the Federation sure as hell does. Of the 67,219 occasions of sapient self-aware AI we have on record 47% were actively helpful, 28% were benign, 14% immediately hosed off to parts unknown, 9% were initially troublesome but easily contained, and only 2% were actively malevolent. It is something to keep an eye on, but freaking out and attempting to destroy a self-aware AI usually just makes it things worse. It's possible by the future that thousands of ships have become self-aware to some degree. Enterprise D certainly seemed to have something happening on the down low. Make a table no a metal table. Seducing Geordie with a version of Dr. Brahms that wasn't very accurate at all. I think it had a baby once? It seemed happy to mostly take care of it's crew and go along with orders though, so there was no reason to try to lobotomize it. If that is the most common experience the Federation has with spontaneous self-awareness, it makes sense that they wouldn't be too concerned about the Discovery.
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2020 21:55 |
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MariusLecter posted:If they had the admiral show astonishment at the recovery of one blackbox and disbelief when told it was three of them actually that could have gone a long way. Seems like it would have been a lot easier to collect those boxes a hundred years ago though. They knew where all the ship graveyards were. Some of them were bound to be near federation planets, and the dilithium thing didn't affect FTL communication. Even if transporting the black boxes was impractical examining them and transmitting the data would be easy. It isn't amazing to find them, because nobody bothered to look. They didn't think the boxes would have anything they didn't already know.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2020 09:56 |
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Barry Convex posted:all the actors involved are doing what they can to make this Georgiou arc work but jfc you established in S1 that she was a genocidal dictator, don’t try to shove down my throat the notion that she’s a sympathetic antihero who deserves redemption Well, yeah, but she's also basically the same person as prime Georgiou. If you happened to be born in the mirror universe you either become an rear end in a top hat or die a victim. Can you really condemn a child raised by wolves for howling at the moon?
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2020 05:58 |
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socialsecurity posted:Where was extreme fascism efficient historically? Fashion.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 06:42 |
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:The only way the mirror universe would actually make sense is if it spawned into existence when an incursion happened from the prime universe and then despawned once the incursion was over, only to spawn again with an updated skew of the prime universe when the next incursion occurred. If they always despawn it would make the mirror universe even more pointless though. Might as well go eat a Kelpian while you are there because it isn't a real Kelpian and he'll stop existing soon anyway. Wouldn't even need to despawn. There could be infinite mirror universes. Maybe there's one where mirror Spock managed to reform the empire successfully and things generally got better. They said evil G's dimension was getting farther away from prime. Maybe that always happens, the multiverse is constantly expanding. There was that one TNG episode where Worf was travelling through alternate dimensions. Or that one where like 400 copies of the Enterprise all wound up in one spot and one Riker didn't want to go home because the Borg were everywhere. Or the one where Wesley accidently trapped his mom in a shrinking warp bubble alternate reality. Or the one Q made where Picard was a loser science officer. Dudes like Carl or Q can see them all and travel between them or even spin up a new one. Human almost have that ability, but we usually gently caress it up and accidently create another BDSM universe. Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Dec 19, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 07:13 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:Making her the emperor was a good choice for a shocking reveal back in series one (assuming that's what you're aiming for as a writer), it's just adding her to the crew long-term made it an elephant in the room they couldn't really address. And I think they did that in response to people pointing out they'd completely wasted Michelle Yeoh. They went to scan an array or something. The ship couldn't scan it so Burnham volunteered to do a spacewalk and promised to be quick because of radiation or something. Burnham hosed up her spacewalk and landed on the klingon ship. Then she stayed on the ship long enough for the torchbearer to come out and defend in in honourable 1v1 combat. He died, leading to the crazy klingon cultists sending out the bat signal to all klingons that their holy whatever was under attack. Other klingons come. Burnham checks with her dad to see how Vulcans manage the klingons, he says they attacked all the time until the klingons asked for peace. So she tells G to attack, G says gently caress no. Burnham commits mutiny but fails. More klingons show up. There is a dumb battle, G is killed and her ship destroyed. More importantly, krafty klingons learn about the crazy cultists cloaking device and pretend to join the crusade to get their hands on that technology. Cloaking devices become widespread in the klingon fleets, putting the Federation at a huge disadvantage in the war. So, what could she have done differently? 1. Not go solo into the weird radiation to get a closer look. or 2. Make it a quick check like she said, if she isn't pushing her luck she doesn't crash into the cloaked ship. or 3. Leave as soon as she finds the ship, because she is not prepared for a long solo mission. The torchbearer doesn't die, the cultists don't send the bat signal, the rest of the klingon empire continues infighting and doesn't get cloaks. Everybody on the Shenzou lives, and there is no war. There is still the mystery of the array that went down and some weird radiation so maybe someone competent should look into that.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 18:27 |
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Epicurius posted:That's the episode Patterns of Force. In the 1960s, a lot of historians did think that the Nazi government had been efficient. It was a common belief at the time, and that was what the episode was referring to. They rebuilt Germany! They almost conquered the world! Then starting in the late 70s-early 80s, there was a newer group of historians who actually looked at German governmental and power structures under the Nazis and realized that wasn't true....that the Nazi government was extremely inefficient and incompetent. The most recent really good book about this, and one you should read if the topic interests you at all, is Adam Tooze's 2006 "The Wages of Destruction", where Tooze shows that the Nazis, by abandoning traditional economic policies, destroyed the German economy, which was only being kept alive by invading other countries, taking them over, and living off the theft of their economies, and so they couldn't really stop without destroying themselves. There was also the thing where the Nazis stopped paying reparations from WW1. I'm no historymancer, but back in high school in the 80s they said the terms of the WW1 peace treaty were so awful for Germany that they would have still been paying it off (in the 80s). That would give them a bit of a boost vs. the previous government. Just tear up treaties.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 19:22 |
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Grand Fromage posted:They also had to resume payments after the war and made the last WW1 reparations payment October 3rd, 2010. And that was with a big balance forgiveness. Rude. When I tear up a treaty I expect it to stay torn up!
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 19:33 |
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SpeakSlow posted:iirc, the cultists fiddled with the array to goad a confrontation on the Beacon. Yeah it was a trap, and Burnham walked right into it. I can't see Picard or Sisko or Janeway crashing headfirst into the trap quite that badly. It isn't like the brain trust on the klingon ship were especially cunning strategists -- they were literally kooky cultists the rest of the empire had written off.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 22:41 |
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Lord Krangdar posted:I thought the idea was attacking first would actually seen as a sign of respect or respectability, in Klingon culture? Since cowardice is what Klingons claim to loathe most. That may be true. Riker still didn't do a mutiny if he thought Picard was making a dumb call. That's not the first officer's job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKtKNZw4Bo
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2020 23:14 |
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I wouldn't say he has no ideals. He has the classic Cardasian ideal that the individual should serve the State. Until the State utterly fails, and he has to decide the best way to help his people. That nearly crushes him.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 01:34 |
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twistedmentat posted:and/ Garak's asides into Cardassian fiction and art were great. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Never_Ending_Sacrifice quote:The Never Ending Sacrifice was a Cardassian novel, which Elim Garak thought was the "finest Cardassian novel ever written." Archetypical of the repetitive epic genre of Cardassian literature, The Never Ending Sacrifice described seven generations of a Cardassian family, all of whom live selfless lives of devotion to the state. The heartwarming story of a family who knew their place and did their duty for 7 generations. Like the Waltons, except, hmm maybe just like the Waltons, actually. Each generation of men in the family taking their turn to join the military and serve in the latest wars. Raise a strong family, to provide the next generation of soldiers and workers. You'd expect more civil service jobs, though Erin worked as a telephone operator which is pretty close. Family and country before pursuing individual happiness.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2020 20:22 |
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GABA ghoul posted:I guess if you look at real life nazi society it wasn't all a bumbling, backstabbing clusterfuck. Nazis left a lot of the economy and administration alone because they needed poo poo to actually function. Like, if you were some cashier in a department store you weren't planning to murder you boss for a career bump. Everything below middle management on MU Earth might be a lot more relaxed. Yeah, except when one of the assholes comes to visit your store, farm, factory etc. Imagine teaching your kids sex ed, which necessarily has to include what to do if a higher ranking rear end in a top hat decides he wants to have sex with you. Don't refuse, that could make things worse for your whole family. Be good enough that the jerk will leave satisfied, but not so good that he'll take you with him. Discussing with your pretty teenagers if they want to try to stay hidden until childbirth and whatnot takes the bloom off the rose, or if they want to attach themselves to a powerful person and try to collect as much jewellery and whatnot as possible before they get tossed aside for a younger model. Being a rich man's or woman's mistress can get you a nice nest egg then you can go home at 30 and have a better life than if you'd stayed home the whole time, but on the downside you risk being assassinated by someone who wants to take your place. Not just sex either. If you want to be an artist you want to be good enough that people will buy your art, but not so good that they will buy your art and then cut off your hands to drive up the value. In all things aim to be somewhere between "mediocre" and "pretty good" but never so terrible or so excellent that you draw attention.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 21:13 |
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I'm just saying there's no nice part of the mirror universe. Not even a modest human shopkeeper or farmer with no ambition is completely free of the bullshit.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2020 23:18 |
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sticklefifer posted:I guess timeline-wise it would've been too early to address this in Disco season 1, but wasn't TNG's MU dominated by a Klingon/Cardassian allegiance? I feel like the Terrans being all angry and trusting nobody makes more sense if they had to contend with even more extreme warrior caste and military domination-focused empires without the diplomacy of Starfleet. I don't know if they've ever addressed what the MU Dominion is like, or Borg or Romulans, but it seems like puny squishy Terrans would be one of the lowest rungs on the ladder in a cutthroat warlike galaxy. In DS9 Worf is in the Klingon Cardassian Alliance. They were a strong faction, but I don't think we ever learned much of the overall political situation. The Breen or the Tholians could have been hella powerful, just not in the area around Bajor. In TNG MU comics Worf was a slave on the Enterprise, so good on him for escaping and becoming chancellor or whatever by DS9.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 01:12 |
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Brawnfire posted:I hope it's warm there, I'd hate to think mirror me is cold and sleeveless Don't worry, those dudes work out. Because when Picard invites you to the gun show you don't want to be shown up by your 60 year old Captain. The swole will keep you warm.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 02:08 |
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Doctor Nutt posted:Picard looks okay but it looks like the artist was forced to draw Data and Troi based off of verbal instructions only and wasn't allowed to look at any reference photos. Lookit Wesley
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 02:37 |
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Jihad Joe posted:Is that MU Barclay? Yep.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2020 02:58 |
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I would just like to say that Michelle Yeoh is loving awesome enough that I'm almost looking forward to the S31 show Star Trek: Mean Girls
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2020 03:09 |
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Josh Lyman posted:Isn't a lot of drinking water these days reprocessed from waste? Sort of, yeah. One town takes their water out of the river or reservoir or whatever, they add the chlorine, fluoride etc., and send it into town. Then the waste water goes to the sewage treatment plant which filters out the solid waste and may do other treatment before dumping that water into the river. In the river the waste water mixes with rainwater and fish poop, etc. A ways downstream that river feeds into the next towns water supply, where their water treatment plant adds chlorine and fluoride etc. to get drinking water and deliver it to their town. So nobody is directly drinking water from the sewage treatment plant. But towns downriver may be getting a significant amount of former wastewater in their drinking water.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 12:57 |
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Wasn't there a thing where messing about in the mycelial network could damage it? And if it died so would all organic life in the multiverse? If so, letting the spore drive become the new standard drive could be really bad, right? If thousands of ships all have spore drives and spore gardens there will be more accidents. More things leaking into the spore dimension. More people loving about doing experiments on the spores. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll just blow up Discovery. Now that the Sphere Data Entity has moved out of the ship and into tiny robots it isn't able to protect the ship anymore.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 13:11 |
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Super Deuce posted:When I think about gender identity in Star Trek, I just see the way TNG handled their non-binary episode, and if Frakes got his way, how much more powerful it could have been... but even without that, even though the gender story was the inverse, it was just so much more clear and rooted in the “future”. Where Federation citizens are assumed tolerant and understanding. Instead of that scene evoking a feeling that NB and other gender issues are still being struggled over for 1000 years. It just made it feel gloomy, rather than an enlightened future. I felt the same about Sisko still being so mad over historical racism that it made him mad about the existence of a fun holoprogram that is set in a racist setting, even though there is no overt nor hidden racism in the program. For where he's from and his life experiences that's more a weird fetish than any kind of reasonable. Yeah, he had a couple hallucinations about living in a similar racist setting, but he also should have had 40 years of life where weird looking space aliens exist and the physical differences between humans are barely noticeable and unnoticed. Or is human on human racism secretly still around? The distant descendants of oppressed people still being mad is gloomy. The pretty reasonable response is that the story isn't written for people in 2375, it is written for people in 1999. In 2375 his weird ancient human racism fixation might be considered a character flaw, but in 1999 it is useful for telling stories that are meaningful now. Adira's story isn't written for people over 1000 years from now, it's written for folks in 2020. And folks now might need things spelled out for them a bit. Even so, there was very little "struggle". Being a teenager is hard, and it seems that day with Stamets is the first time she told anyone she was NB, certainly the first time she told anyone on Discovery. At which point everyone, absolutely everyone, was down with calling them by their preferred pronouns without making a big deal about it. Which is what should happen now. It is teaching people in 2020 how to deal with it when someone tells you they are non-binary. You could read it as the level of awkwardness in that scene isn't much worse than if your name is Allison and someone has been calling you Alice for weeks, and you didn't correct them the first time and now it's going to be embarrassing for everyone when you correct them and tell them to call you Allison instead of Alice. It is in no way a big deal for anyone, it's just an awkward moment. They didn't mention that they were non-binary the first day, because stuff was going on, and now that everyone has been misgendering them for weeks it is a little embarrassing to fix. Except Stamets dewy eyed acceptance makes it seem like a bigger deal than that.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 01:58 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:I know they upgraded their consoles with the programmable matter and gave them new COM badges. But they have not covered any other structural improvements to the discovery as of yet for me six episodes in. I thought they did? It looked like the nacells aren't attached anymore. Yeah. https://comicbook.com/startrek/news/star-trek-discovery-a-redesign/ It's just that the weird pacing makes it seem like there wasn't time for a real refit. But maybe programable matter makes that something that can be done in an afternoon. The ship is held together by forcefields now.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 03:27 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Oh I agree, it's been driving me nuts the whole time. We only know a handful of things as of this point. Presumably the Burn has caused all empires to contract to their core worlds. The galaxy is huge and travel is difficult. So even if the Klingon Empire is still around, their sphere of influence is smaller and may not boarder the Federation sphere of influence any more. We don't know what the boarders looked like right before the burn, but here's how they looked . . . sometime. Sol is the center of the map. The Tellerite, Andorian and Vulcan sectors are out. Chances are pretty good that anything on the other side of those sectors is effectively isolated, even if it is technically still part of the Federation. Though, actually, do we even know where there Federation is centered now? LOL. Whatever, most people aren't travelling much, so you'd expect most species to be rare outside their own territory. There there are a probably a lot of stray colony worlds along the old boarders that are effectively independent now. But they may not be able to travel at all. Most people will stay on the planet where they were born. If anything I'd expect more mongrels. There had to be a bunch of strays who were effectively trapped as extreme minorities on mixed colonies, starbases, and ships. What does someone who is 12.5% Klingon, 12.5% Denublian, 25% Romulan, and 50% human look like? Does that happen, or do hybrids become infertile at some point?
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 04:12 |
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Hyrax Attack! posted:-why when space repair robots have existed for a millennia does the EC cling to slavery to sort scrap metal? Control? Capitalism? They have a version of capitalism with no provision for declaring bankruptcy. If you owe a debt you can't pay, then your creditor is entitled to take custody of you and force you to work it off. (I think this has been a thing at times in human history?) And since they are deciding how much to charge you for room and board, and how much your labour is worth, once you are a debt slave you probably aren't ever getting out. I think we only see debt slavery and maybe crime slavery? In which case the slavery isn't merely about getting work done cheap, it's a Social Program. Sure robots might be able to do a better job for less money, but then what would we do with all the destitute people and all the criminals? Which is probably why the green lady wasn't worried about outlawing slavery. All the debt slaves could be freed, and then since they still can't pay their debts they become totally legal Indentured Servants. They no longer have slave markets, they have debt trading markets. And if the Federation had specifically endorsed capitalism they'd be stuck. Debtors unable to pay their debts are inevitable.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 07:38 |
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Cojawfee posted:There have been debtors prisons in history where you are required to live in a jail cell that you can leave to go do work to earn money to pay your debt. Being enslaved to pay your debts was a thing in ancient Mesopotamia.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 09:31 |
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'm no fancy big city screenwriter but I really feel like Discovery should stop having people say things and then immediately have the opposite thing happen. Tilly may have been willing to blow the ship, but she wasn't actually able to do it because the Sphere Data won't let the ship be destroyed that way. Remember?
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2021 19:52 |
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I was real worried about Owo, getting another bit of character development like "I can hold my breath for 10 minutes" seemed like a death warrant. Really lucky that the turboshaft dimension has a breathable atmosphere. But why does it have a breathable atmosphere? It doesn't look like it is separated into decks, so either it should drain when half the ship is draining, or else they should have been able to get a space blowtorch and cut a hole from the deck they were on to the turboshaft dimension. Micheal getting to be captain . . . meh. It's fine. For better or worse she's the star of the show, and it makes more sense from a typical star trek format for the captain to be the star.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2021 11:23 |
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Grudge: trans or nah? She is a queen. She's played by a male cat with male cat parts and I think it was this thread where someone claimed they'd seen her balls. That's probably just a production quirk, except Book is a powerful empath so he'd easily know if she considers herself female. IRL there are well documented long-term same sex animal couples who are generally referred to as gay, but we don't really know what is going on with them. It's possible one of those gay penguins is actually trans and we just have no way of telling. So a giant fluffy trans kitty isn't impossible based on our current understanding.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2021 11:52 |
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Oh also lol at The Emerald Chain falling apart the second Ossyra died. I was under the impression that while she was a major player within it, she wasn't the only leader of it. They were nearly out of dilithium and most of their people had no idea they were that close to the crisis point. If that news got out with her death it could easily lead to chaos.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2021 19:40 |
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:"Hit it" and "engage" are clearly the best commands to initiate warp. DS9 had an all Vulcan ship. Semi-segregated ships make sense if it is based around environmental controls. Vulcans like it hot and dry. Andorians like it cool. Several species need axillary breathing apparatus to function in "normal" atmosphere. Cetaceans might be able to make do with some sort of anti-grav environmental suit for a while, but really they need deep water to be comfortable. A ship designed to make Horta as comfortable as possible probably wouldn't be comfortable for anyone else. We saw that one lady from the real low gravity planet, but there are probably a bunch of planets that have like .8 or 1.2 times the gravity of earth, and folks from there could function but would always be a little uncomfortable in "standard" gravity. A human can serve on an Andorian ship, but he's gonna need thermal underwear under his uniform. So humans mostly prefer to serve on ships where the environmental controls are set to the range humans find comfortable. And TV shows mostly tell the stories of those ships because it's easy.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2021 22:07 |
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Azhais posted:a computer can be secured without saying 173467321476C32789777643T732V73117888732476789764376 It can't though.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 04:24 |
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Butternubs posted:I'm glad Star Trek is still attempting to be inclusive. I absolutely do not trust the writers to do anything interesting or useful with it though. Probably just a lot more of the weird adopted child stuff. Especially since Adira isn't otherwise considered a child within the culture. Both the earth defence force and Starfleet consider them old enough to hold down a full time job instead of going to school. Adira didn't need to get permission from a guardian to leave earth and join Discovery. At 16 they appear to be considered a young adult, not a child. Stamets only met Adira a few months ago, tops. They are co-workers. Stamets being a mentor makes sense. Stamets deciding he's their dad is a little crazy. I think this one is for the audience. A grown rear end man in his 40s mentoring a teenager could easily come off as creepy. So Stamets has to look directly into the camera and say "this isn't a sex thing. My affection for Adira is entirely platonic and parental".
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 15:35 |
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Verviticus posted:i thought this was literally just people aiming inwards with basically their hand rifles which is why it took so long for them to break the shields Hand rifles don't seem like they'd be able to beat shield regen. No matter what the improvements in technology, a ship is still going to have orders of magnitude more power than anything handheld. Besides, I doubt you'd want handheld anti-ship weapons fired by guys just eyeballing the shot inside your own ship. Those dudes miss all the time! It would be stupid as hell to give them guns that can blow through your own hull. Emplaced guns can be positioned and programed so that they can't take a shot that would seriously damage their own ship. Having some automated defences inside your own landing bay just makes sense.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 05:04 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 07:18 |
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah Stamets+Reno+Adira gives the ship three god-tier engineer savants on one ship which did stand out to me. Stamets isn't an engineer, he's a astromycologist. Science, not engineering. He just seems like an engineer because of the spore drive. While looking up Stamets specialty I found there is another Paul Stamets. Probably a coincidence.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 05:58 |