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tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Star Man posted:

I would utterly hate being a YouTuber or a Twitch partner. Just churning out content constantly for the Internet just consumes you. I can't stand watching people on Twitch that have reached a large enough threshold that they are constantly talking about money and what works on stream and what doesn't.

I came pretty close to getting Twitch partner in the last couple years (had the numbers consistently, regularly over a hundred concurrent viewers, but was always just slightly below the bar) and in retrospect letting the whole thing go before I actually got there was the best thing I could have done. I wasn't trying to do it for a living, either. COVID meant I never left the house and I'm a decent live producer (part of my day job is producing software developer conferences) so I started doing fighting game tournaments and people liked them so it started growing. Some of the bigger names in Tekken started commentating and playing in the brackets I ran, so they started getting bigger. Then, suddenly, because I was willing to say such bold and controversial things like "transphobes are not welcome in my events" I was getting my own share of harassment from shitheads and from the better quarters of the community I was suddenly getting asked to weigh in on this or that bullshit from this or that idiot in the community, like I was suddenly responsible for everybody who played Tekken. And I've got under 2,000 followers on Twitter and Twitch -- I cannot fathom the shitstorm folks with ten or a hundred times that following get all the time, unendingly.

Even though I wasn't trying to do it for a living and even though I was dreading almost every event I ran? The numbers kept going up, and that check mark would be really cool, right? My mood directly reflected whether my numbers were better than other people's, even those of people I considered friends (actual friends--and they've quit running events too). It wasn't why me and my SO of three years broke up, but it was a hell of a contributing factor, having my mood obviously keyed on how many people (not "did any", but how many) showed up to watch. If I'd gotten partner it probably would have harmed my job (which is way less work for a way more predictable paycheck) and would have stapled my self-worth to the algorithm on ways I don't know if I could have walked back from.

My events did some pretty cool stuff in there too. Through like six charity events we raised about $25K for a bunch of good causes. But everything else melted my loving brain and it took months to get myself right. People I know are still trying to make partner. They dismiss me when I say the above. They think it's what they want. the weirdest thing to me is how aimless it seems. I started running events because it was COVID and we couldn't do offline Tekken tournaments. These folks say they want to "create content". Not say something, or make art, or even entertain. They want to Create Content, as if that's an end into itself. I don't get it.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Dec 28, 2021

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tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Yeah - from where I stand, this is less "a streamer getting picked on" and more "inter-corporate violence". Hasan, Pokimane, etc. are the faces of media entities and they should absolutely know better. And most - not all, but most - at that level will use copyright to keep others from doing what they're doing with their own content, if it becomes any sort of numbers worth paying attention to.

I make stuff, too, and copyright ensures that it's used in ways I approve of. Not necessarily in terms of money, either--I've sent "friendly reminders" about GPL violations in the past. "Top streamers on Twitch, pulling in tens of thousands of dollars per month, can't stream MasterChef" is just "yes...and?" as far as I can see.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

I would give that person a sub

Sandwich that is, gently caress giving Twitch money

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

pokimane streaming atla without paying Cartoon Network is direct action

pokimane is capital

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

DC Murderverse posted:

I understand the copyright strikes from the legal side of things (corporations have to protect their copyright otherwise they might lose it)
This isn't true. Trademarks must be actively defended to avoid genericization, but copyrights may be selectively enforced.

This is why you can C&D a shithead out of using your content and let everyone else keep doing whatever, if you so choose. That includes bigots etc., but also I've seen that Bandai-Namco shut down events using their games/marketing materials when it was found out that those tournaments were rigged.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

The 7th Guest posted:

those blender animated shorts released under creative commons?

big buck bunny on repeat forever

(if you work in video tech, this is already your life)

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Alaois posted:

literally zero people have said any of these things in this thread except you

If you are in that community there is a lot bound up in something like "hur hur Nintendo doesn't like Smash tournaments because of sexual predators". It requires a particular flavor of lovely to make that sort of snipe and it is tied up in the other stereotypes to which DoctorWhat is referring. Using them sarcastically in that light might make more sense?

There's a lot of go-gently caress-yourself in the responses to that kind of poo poo because it happens all the time and it's not about the gravity of the situation, it's just a cheap shot at a game community that doesn't get a lot of respect. The Smash community in the US is doing more to figure itself out and to unfuck itself than any major fighting game I can think of (including and perhaps especially the one I remain peripherally involved with) but nobody is making low-effort drive-bys to poke Street Fighter players because LTG and Infiltration (or after this week Robinho, I guess) exist.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Yardbomb posted:

Almost impressive that buttcoin is finding yet more ways to be associated with and prop up child porn.

Well yeah--like Dan said, after Silk Road got bopped it became clear the feds weren't cool with you buying drugs or assassination contracts with it. What's left?

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

DoctorWhat posted:

We can barely pick one.

Professional hat on: I can give you two.

Not the cheap one.

But video hosting is pretty turn-key these days.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

fun hater posted:

legit interested: what the ballpark for someone with 0 audience to host their own videos for a blog or something? is that a thing that can be guessed

With my employer, one 30 minute video per month, viewed 50% to completion 1000 times, you're looking at about a dollar of encoding costs (paid once), ten cents in storage costs (paid monthly, based on total data storage), and about $18 for streaming costs (based on users per month).

We aren't the cheapest, but for my money we're the easiest to deal with, if you can and are willing to write a little code (not much) to embed video. If you can't write code--

DoctorWhat posted:

You can pay Venmo for professional hosting. Linkara also paid for non-Youtube hosting for some of his videos as a mirror for a while.

--Vimeo's (disclaimer: they're a competitor) professional plans have historically been a good option, but they also have been telling people that actually use the service they're paying for that, surprise, it's time to jack up your fees a whole lot--edit: I see that somebody mentioned SF Debris above, they're a good example of it--so I wouldn't use them personally.

Hel posted:

Video hosting is file hosting, so if you are really basic you can just offer your videos for download rather than streaming, so basic Web hosting. And I think you can just embed them with html(or a JavaScript videoplayer), though how good that works I don't know. But since a lot of the audience is watching on phones with apps rather than browsers it might be limiting.

Kind of true, but with huge asterisks. You can put an MP4 somewhere, but it'll be awful. Even VOD is done with DASH and HLS; HLS is more widely supported. HLS is really an .m3u8 file (a descendant of the WinAmp M3U playlist format) with some special language in it to find video file segments. I've built this professionally, but now I work for a company that does this and does it about as cheap as you can expect to find. You could do it by hand and serve the files yourself if you really wanted to, doing something vaguely like:

code:
ffmpeg -i filename.mp4 -codec: copy -start_number 0 -hls_time 10 -hls_list_size 0 -f hls filename.m3u8
That would give you a set of files that you could just throw on a server somewhere, but now you're your own preprocessor (congratulations! it sucks!).

Antigravitas posted:

Embedding video for someone without much of an audience is trivial. Won't have different quality levels and whatnot out of the box, but it's not that hard. It's just <video /> tags pointing at video file on a server. Browsers can handle everything on their own.

The hard part comes when the audience is no longer trivial or uses weird devices that can't decode the video.

It's much harder than this if you want users to be able to effectively seek through the content, particularly on mobile devices. HTTP range seek is terrible for video (and most other things that aren't predictable text or binary). Codecs are a solved problem for everything sub-4K; everything under the sun can decode h264. (Much of the need of things like YouTube's AV1 is that 4K h264 at reasonable bitrates won't fit in the buffers available to Media Source Extensions in the browser. 1080p h264 is totally fine, though slightly inefficient at YouTube scale so I think they'll send you 1080p AV1 if your hardware can support it; I know that 720p is h264 across the board.)

The harder part is when you're trying to send data to mobile devices, where HTTP range seek often just won't work and trying to jump halfway through your monster MP4 file hangs forever.

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If you're using some kind of CDN, which you have to, you are looking at transfer costs of a few cents per GB. A 2GB video with 10 000 views may cost 1800€ to serve. (Extreme napkin maths here)

Generally yeah. Though depending on how small an audience, and what bitrate you're targeting, you may not need a CDN. DigitalOcean will hand you a droplet with 1TB of bandwidth for $6/month (bandwidth doesn't go up linearly for bigger machines though!), and if you're sufficiently clever you could bodge together something fairly cheap from that. Or DigitalOcean Spaces is like $0.01/GB for outbound transfer. On the other hand, it's also way slower than a CDN. You pay your money and you take your choice.

(One thing is that the margins in this space are all actually pretty low for tech companies; this is one of the more difficult problems in the general tech space just because video is so big in terms of bandwidth required to get it out the door. The fact that YouTube exists and is able to serve effectively infinite high-quality video, for free, might be considered dumping in other industries. Twitch, ditto, for streaming--though, and I have no insider knowledge or anything here--I suspect that gravy train may roll to a stop sometime relatively soon.)

I Before E posted:

If nothing else, you can always use archive.org, aka the one place I was sure I could find an upload of Jan Misali's essay "Who Wrote Caramelldansen?" while that DMCA controversy was happening slash might still be happening.

If you have no profit motive, this might the simplest option. Like the above suggestions, they just do HTTP service--so if you go to a fairly long video file and try to seek to, say, the halfway point, you will be waiting a long time and some phones might just give up before they get there--but it's free and it's easy to submit to, and they'll adopt your bandwidth costs.

I hope you kick them $20 or whatever every so often for the help they're giving you, though, because the Archive is a monumental public service and it isn't cheap to run.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 30, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Marin Karin posted:

I can't believe actually getting a chance at momentum with popular creators putting their stuff on your hosting service, and you loving extort them instead of using it to your advantage to become a competitor with youtube at all. :yikes:
I work for a company in the same space. Vimeo doesn't have much use for people who actually use their plan--think mobile plans, only moreso. "Unlimited" plans are usually a scam but for video they are extra, extra, extra always a scam, 'cause video is expensive as hell to serve and 4K video quadruply so. At the same time, trying to leverage those people for what you suggest is high-risk in ots own right. Their business model is privately hosted or white-labeled video. Pivoting from that to grow a full advertising function on the backs of comparatively few views is probably unwise.

In this space, approximately nobody can or wants to compete with YouTube. They have economies of scale unavailable to anybody who would want to go after them (short, incomplete list: Microsoft (Azure), AWS, Apple, and the major CDN providers like Akamai and CloudFlare), and none of those potential competitors have an established video advertising function.

If YouTube offered private videos with an easy-to-use entitlement system, everybody else would be in real trouble.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Feb 15, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

yeah, that didn't make any money. all hail capitalism.

:(

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Ghostlight posted:

i imagine there simply aren't any other platforms available for a channel trying to serve videos to almost 5m subscribers.

Not unless they're all paying.

Rule of thumb: two hours of streamed video (watch time) costs between $0.25 and $0.50 (roughly; volume discounts exist) to stream out.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Gaius Marius posted:

gently caress all that poo poo Steve dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_eFoIemjU

STEVE

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Hel posted:

Figured I'd ask here since someone might know: is there a good tool for generating visual timelines from a table of something? I basically want to feed an excel spreadsheet or .csv file into tool that spits out a nice image of a timeline. Or is the best way just to make a bespoke timeline in Photoshop or something?

Mermaid does Gantt charts. I use them for building historical timelines.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Karloff posted:

No. You cannot review a film without having seen the whole thing
Sure you can. A review is about if it's any loving good to go watch. The idea that one cannot review a film, cannot call it a piece of poo poo unworthy of the viewer's time (in however a fancy manner as one wants), without sitting through every agonizing frame--that's just not right. "Bad enough to walk out, zero stars" is a totally reasonable and defensible basis for a review.

It's a much easier lift to say that one can't critique a film--cannot analyze it thematically and place it in a larger context and canon--without watching the entirety of it, but that's a different verb.

(YMS does suck, though, on that we agree.)

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Karloff posted:

If I was reading to a review where they said "Bad enough to walk out, zero stars" then in turn I'd instantly stop reading and throw their review into the trash because they're shite at reviewing films and can't be bothered to do the bare minimum. Why waste my time reading their awful review?

A review is a description of the (very subjective) experience of a movie, provided so that you can relate their opinions to your own and figure out if you want to spend your time watching the movie. If you are of the (odd) mindset that one must sit through the entirety of a roiling piece of poo poo to have the opinion that it is a piece of poo poo, then that reviewer isn't for you. On the other hand, for a reasonable person, should that reviewer's opinions tend to be congruent with theirs, "it was such garbage that it wasn't worth watching the rest of it" is a very valuable review.

"It sucked rear end, I wanted to leave, but I didn't For The Review" is not going to provide a consumer of that review better information, it's just performative masochism for pince-nez-adjusting social media freaks.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Mar 20, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

KingKalamari posted:

Yeah, I don't think there's really any problem with reviewing a movie you didn't finish so long as you're up-front about the fact that you didn't finish it.

In all honesty I feel like people take movie/tv/video game reviews way too seriously: It's not like somebody having a bad/uninformed take on a work you enjoy is going to cause any material harm to anyone and if you realize a particular critic has consistently bad takes it's pretty simple to just not pay attention to them anymore...

8.8.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Idiocracy lacked the necessary intentional bad faith to be representative of where we've actually ended up.

Being stupid and well-intentioned is different from being stupid and evil.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

KingKalamari posted:

To be fair, I feel like you could at least make a cogent argument that the recent republican presidents like Bush and Trump were deliberately chosen because they weren't particularly bright and were thus good figureheads to draw public attention away from the other Republican ghouls that were more actively calling the shots. I think it's an especially pertinent argument to level at the Bush administration as evidence seems to suggest a lot of the shots relating to the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were being called by the likes of Donald Rumsfeld and co rather than Bush Jr. himself.

One of the more foolish and harmful fictions out there (because underestimating effective and lovely people makes them more effective and lovely) is the idea that Bush, in particular, wasn't "particularly bright". I've met him. When he isn't doing the affect, it's obvious that he's an educated man with some intellectual curiosity and whose brain works. Little bit stuttery even in person and small groups, so I get where the relatively poor public speaking comes from, but not stupid. And when you put him up against a stiff like Gore or Kerry, that he was smart enough to play to it.

Trump, on the other hand, seems to be--even by internal accounts--a boiled-brain moron.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

BlankSystemDaemon posted:


As an example, and perhaps one of the more (in)famous ones, Académie française approach the French language with a perscriptivist viewpoint,

And yet Quebec exists, in spite of the attempts of the aforementioned academy to insist otherwise.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Puppy Time posted:

How is anyone going to realize that they're pronouncing something "wrong" though?

I pronounced "vapid" with a long a until I was 33. No idea why.

I'm still not entirely sure how to pronounce "brusque".

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

NorgLyle posted:

I've been skipping his videos for a while now because the thing that originally attracted me to the channel (Dork making food from movies and tv shows) has largely vanished under the weight of whatever Basics with Babish is supposed to be and introducing everyone to all his staff and food youtube friends who can't support a channel on their own. I feel like he's sort of lost touch with the fun of trying to make things and been too enamored with trying to be 'upscale' for lack of a better word.

I kind of worry that Adam Ragusea is going down the same rabbit hole. Now he's got a podcast (well, he had a stupid nerd podcast before, but now it's a Food Podcast that's also on his YouTube channel, podcasts aren't on YouTube, don't @ me) and he has branded knives and it isn't even that much more stuff out of him--but it's enough to be exhausting.

Not his fault, the content grind is a real thing and alternate content streams are important for the health of his channel (and thus feeding his family etcetera etcetera), but I just don't want to watch it, and that makes it so YouTube thinks I don't want to watch anything on his channel.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Adam is worse, because he used to be good about giving measurements, but recently he's started just.. not doing that, because now he's gotten to the point in his own skill level where he can get away with not using measurements because he's beginning to form an instinctual idea of how much is needed of each ingredient.
Huh, I never noticed that, but that's a good call. I'm not a professional cook or anything but I was generally comfortable in a kitchen before I ever saw any of his videos (so I'm not surprised I didn't notice). I just think he does entertaining work and I like teasing apart how he constructs videos. There's some disappearing up his own rear end going on, which might just be the cycle of youtube, I dunno.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Gaius Marius posted:

He's just a bloviated rear end in a top hat who monopolizes the conversation while having the most uninteresting ideas or grasps on concepts. Give meaTroy or Rob anyday

FWIW, Rowan uses she/her pronouns.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

GonSmithe posted:

Googled recipes that show up first are usually recipes written by 40 year old white wine moms who have no idea how to actually cook. Google shows you convenience and familiarity first (because that's what people who don't cook are googling more) over actually good recipes made by people who know what they are doing.

The meal crates are a terrible, terrible, terrible value if you are just going by how much the food cost is, but I recommend them to a lot of people who can afford them for a month or two who want to get better at cooking or learn to make new things. Most of them (especially Blue Apron) have talented chefs in their company making the recipes so you get good flavors/ingredients, and the instructions are written in a way that still use some more complicated cooking techniques/ingredients (again, depending on the service and which meals you choose) while being easy to follow. They're also good for learning portion control sizes.

If you don't have the money for a month or two of the services but want to learn to cook better meals/new recipes I recommend finding some scans online of the recipe cards for the companies.

This maps to my experience, too. I am a pretty decent home cook, but a friend living with me for a while wanted to try Blue Apron to learn to cook, and the food's good and the instructions are excellent. I learned a few new things, and I wasn't expecting to.

At the moment, I'm using Freshly because my kitchen is a home renovation disaster but the microwave works and the meals for that are really pretty excellent (also a good portion control mechanic), albeit sorely in need of salt+pepper+often cayenne. It's cheaper than DoorDash, and I keep not thinking about eating until after pretty much anything I can walk to is closed so it becomes DoorDash, McDonald's, or Freshly, and Freshly's stuff is a lot better.

LanceHunter posted:

CinemaRoberto is also a Boston townie, making him a resident of one of the most racist cities in the United States.

FWIW, given the way Boston's changed over the time I've lived in Massachusetts, I'm not sure this is actually true anymore (though it definitely was when Bob was a kid). I moved out of Dorchester to south of the city, on the edge of the suburbs and where a lot of those townies got pushed out to, and it seems a lot worse here.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 4, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Read the X-Wing novels if you haven't already. The Wraith Squadron ones (Books 5-7 and 9) are fantastic.

I was just thinking this--Allston's Wraith Squadron books are good fun, and in addition to the X-Wing books Stackpole did some surprisingly good stuff in a bunch of licensed contexts. Stackpole did good stuff with FASA properties too (a lot of his BattleTech books were central plot-movers).

Both of them managed to wink at the camera a lot and make for a way less self-serious read than the rest of the EU books that came out in that time period. (Shame about all the other books that came later, but I think that was a chicken poo poo/chicken salad problem.)

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Grondoth posted:

What I've learned is that the people I thought were just being curmudgeons about public spectacle and the danger of obsession over gossip were, uh, right. This poo poo just isn't good for anyone. It's too easy to slip into your worst self when you're talking poo poo about someone famous you don't know.

The reverse is true, too. I dated someone who would get incredibly wound up at the absolute injustice of Britney Spears's conservatorship. And like, yeah, not awesome, but these are celebrities, investing oneself in this stuff seems to be invariably, personally toxic.

Also, weird voyeur reality TV. I didn't break up with my last relationship because she really liked Intervention, but I probably should've realized it was a bigger red flag a lot sooner

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 01:35 on May 20, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Nuns with Guns posted:

It was dorky but it feels like there are definitely way less places where kids and teenagers can hang out on the internet and not have to step around things the Adult Internet has strewn everywhere. Can't even go relax and play some Meerca Chase on Neopets anymore since Flash is dead.

This resonates. It seems like every other discord about a game has an NSFW channel now, if not just "throw it in #general". I'm not a prude, I don't mind a porns or two, but it's very odd that even relatively kid-friendly titles (Nintendo ones, often) just roll that stuff right into the middle of their community.

Like for gently caress's sake, your Splatoon discord does not need a porn channel, keep it in your pants

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

lunar detritus posted:

You do realize that a lot of those fan discords with NSFW channels are created and modded by teens, right?

I'm sure some are. What's your point?

Alaois posted:

whoa there you don't want the AGDQ thread people comin after you

You must game >this< slow to address me by name

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

fun hater posted:

the worst reality show was the one where the winner got plastic surgery. i still think about how freakishly and shamefully fully unhinged even the mere concept was

I would direct your attention to "Intervention", where addicts and the families of addicts debase themselves on television to receive treatment.

Grondoth posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with people

She just does videos about stupid poo poo. Like the land before time sequels and vampire diaries. Why does anyone get mad? How can anyone get mad?

Still going with "because these sadsack fucks have nothing else in their lives and so channel it into internet rage at people within their grasp".

Fandoms, etc. are fine for well-adjusted people. The internet connects and amplifies the people who aren't. I don't know if it was intentional, but we're here now.

tracecomplete fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 2, 2022

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Metis of the Hallways posted:

Kenobi Leia is a larval girlboss, as will be further discussed in my upcoming treatise, "The Taxonomy of the Girlboss".

Whills, Midichlorians, and Girlbosses: A Star Wars Story

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

This channel, Ed's Auto Reviews, has some pretty neat automotive history episodes. This one is on the 70's fad of having fashion designers design car aesthetics, and they're hideous. And you get to hear a Dutch guy do an impression of an American doing an Italian accent, which is a sentence I had to write twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6OhVeYjDqA

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

waifus do not interest me

why so aggro

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Arc Hammer posted:

Look Star Wars has a species of "near human" Asian people called thr Epicanthix. Yeah, like the folds around people's eyes.
...aaaaaaand the one you're most likely to know of has a yellow lightsaber.

(He's surprising in that he actually turns good though, that doesn't happen much for Dark Jedi. Does immediately get killed afterwards though, so no credit given.)

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

For what it's worth, Jan Ors in the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games is also (mostly) portrayed by/as an Asian woman and nothing about her is depicted as being racist in the slightest.

Yeah, I don't think "Epicanthix" actually came from the game. I think that was retroactively applied to from like a card game or something, but it's been A While.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

Yeah, it came from the Shadows of the Empire novel as a way of explaining why there's Asian people in space instead of just describing them as looking like Asian people because it turns out Steve Perry is really kind of :yikes: when you get down to it and Shadows of the Empire was actually a really racist novel for its time.

Just tell me Mike Stackpole isn't weird.

(Aaron Allston, being dead, is beyond being weird)

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

I AM GRANDO posted:

There’s a comic book where Indiana Jones finds the fossilized remains of Han Solo in a crashed Millennium Falcon.

That comic is kinda cool.

On the other hand, I just remembered Alien Exodus. :stare:

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

fun hater posted:

4:30 for the skit at the start to end btw. jesus loving christ

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tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

sexpig by night posted:

I missed it so I have no idea what Ben accused them of but considering nobody's talking about any, ya know, proof and all and also considering that Ben's kinda famously a reactionary idiot I feel pretty secure responding to "CHRIS PLANTE FIRED ME FOR MY BRAVE VACCINE AND Q ANON VIEWS" with 'lol what'

I knew Ben a bit a long time ago and he always seemed a little edgelordy but his heart seemed to be in the right place; when I knew him "reactionary" wasn't even on the radar. I'm low key a little sad to see this even though I know how he's gotten over time.

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