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*checks gog* oh my hardcore aesthetics blazed through with the update
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 02:22 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 00:19 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Which skills will give me some kind of high level knowledge of what's REALLY going on in the world? Encyclopedia is the skill that deals with trivial and factual knowledge but guess what, it is completely separate from contextualization. High levels of it will tell you about the first bars of the anthem of a distant Commune or the history of the fourth Innocence, what the gently caress is a "Franconigerian Cavalry" or that this band from a country called Oranje has been a massive hit on your city and which chart position they held in the billboard equivalent. Inland Empire is the one who can point that information out towards more intuitive significance, or none at all; it is fundamentally the power of the psychological unconscious. Sufficient points there make it capable of apparently overriding the amnesia, as it seems to bring out traces and impressions that you shouldn't know about. Oddities and weirdness. Shivers is... Well, rhm. Do you know that feeling you get after living in a metropolis after a while, of being somehow in tune with the place? Add that to what some would call having street smarts and multiply it by at least a thousand. That's Shivers. All I am going to say is that it is never a bad pick. Esprit-de-Corps is not obvious in that regard and it doesn't consider "knowledge of the world" as part of its department, but when it has something to say about that, is oh my loving god some of the best remarks of the game.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 04:08 |
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mother of god I wasn't ready at all for that extremely sexy baritone
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 05:38 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:anyone liking some peculiar voiced lines though? I thought Dasha did a good Klaasje because her natural affectation matched the character rather well. But I just failed that one gloriously obvious check to fail and gotta say the new one is better already. More expansive and oh my her vocal fry is amazing
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 05:57 |
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ok, loving the VA work so far, I am laughing way more than first time Klaasje singing and Encyclopedia commenting about OO has more humor than some entire games
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 06:13 |
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Kim's actor re-recorded lines are good. More confident, snappier and flowing better edit: oh my god the tie dead gay comedy forums fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Mar 31, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 06:23 |
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Akett posted:Huh, I'm at the end of the first day, doing the Shivers bit describing the city a direction at a time, "HAVE A BROTHER IN THE CUT. WHERE THE WOOD AT?" is voiced by a woman. Appropriate, also interesting that they make the capitalization being something different from standard Shivers far more explicit. this is goddamned excellent
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 08:48 |
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new VA is better than dasha trust me
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 15:49 |
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World War Mammories posted:quite possible, I didn't dig deep into the first conversation where you can chatter about ostentatious orchestrations and making gently caress with her, so maybe I missed her opening salvo you didn't use your Earned Sacred Right of Quicksaving for beating DE twice to fail the second worst suggestion check of all time?
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 15:54 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Starting up my full yellow ultraliberal run. What color should I focus on secondary? Thinking red. anything that falls under Joyce's apparel
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 16:22 |
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the final cut's great unlikely debate: much like 19th century dramatic critiques, lengthy diatribes shall be composed to argue between Dot Major's legendary performance and the more restrained yet more elaborate *checks notes* new VA guy
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 16:25 |
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World War Mammories posted:honestly cuno's new VA has been pretty good so far. the poor quality of the original definitely added something to it, but not enough to win out, I think it wasn't the quality itself of the recording, more in the way the guy went absolutely all in cuno was "what if dickens' street urchin but in a guy ritchie movie produced by the ghost of pasolini"
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 17:44 |
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guyse if you are experiencing choice paralysis, one of the important things to know is that many skills overlap in their fields of action composure and perception for example overlap with empathy or rhetoric in determining how a character is behaving also have in mind that there are background checks that determine which skills chime in or not, and some trees can only work if others fail - for example, if your reaction speed succeeds at the background but rhetoric fails, you don't get a possible consideration of what that other character is saying, but since authority succeed in its place, you get its take, something that wouldn't happen otherwise this is why we are repeating to not worry about your stats in a min/maxy way because you won't be missing out on anything, you will just get different perspectives
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 22:15 |
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sit around, kids so I started playing the final cut right before my life went to hell (during a plague and under the Bolsonaro govt nonetheless) because of a familial disaster that left me without a roof over my head, no job and very little money. thanks to the solidarity of friends and colleagues, I managed through. By mid-May it was all solved - as if by miracle given how fast things happened, really - with shelter and work with decent pay to attend my immediate necessities (and even some little comforts). so last month I decided to finish it because of the new content and, being commie, I wanted to see what ZA/UM had to say about it. The funny was spot on, had my lols, but the conclusion was one of the most important things to be ever said in a videogame. Perhaps the most important? Maybe, because sure as hell I am biased. I wrote thousands of words already about Disco Elysium, about how it is one of the most fundamental pieces of art in our time, the first game to actually come through in terms of being literature at its most meaningful. the communist quest is a masterstroke because its reward is entirely designed for the player to enjoy and benefit, not the character. It spoke rather deeply to me personally, given the recent circumstances. The most important thing about it is that not only it explains the why of revolutionary socialism, that "why" carries another quintessential factor that many leftists of our days seem to forget rather often: hope. "How the hell", one can ask shouting from rooftops, "you can fight for the better day without hope?" To call oneself truly a communist is to have hope in the face of the Sisyphean struggle that each and every one of us that work for a living, to provide to oneself and dearest others, face every single day. To have hope that one day, things will be better not only for someone or a group of such, but for all of us. That one day, there will be much less unnecessary suffering. I was down to my last few bucks getting a coffee and something to eat while waiting a reply from a friend to stay there a few days, and because of their work, it took a few good hours to reply. I was out in the street and it began to rain in this very gray sky of the Southern Atlantic, my luggage and all the poo poo I could carry in a pinch with me, and I felt the whisper of despondence, the one borne of being pushed into abjectness, that the shadow of abasement was grasping at my heels; some tears came down, but I didn't feel like crying, which was somewhat odd for me. I asked myself if these were the worst circumstances I have ever been, and well, yes. Then I remembered I wasn't in my worst mental state. Thought that was rather funny, actually. Although poo poo was harrowing, I was looking out for solutions, getting in touch with people, waiting for job replies, asking and receiving help from friends. Then I also remembered that I had been in remission against chronic depression quite successfully since dec/19. That time was hosed up, even though I was far more comfortable. Then it dawned on me: what made that absolutely awful was that I simply couldn't find hope. I was terrified because my vision was dim - I couldn't see a future. Even though the weather was starting to look awful and I didn't know where I would sleep that night, I took a couple of deep breaths and managed to steel myself because of that one thing: hope. poo poo was awful. poo poo could be much, much worse. Yet, hell, I am a communist: I believe in a much, much, much more difficult, complicated and grander advent, what is a personal little miracle in comparison? Just to turn things around? I never quite figured out how to articulate the emotional appeal of "why I am a communist" to someone else like ZA/UM did here. Of course, I teared up lots when, after all the bookchat and artillery barrages of jargon were done, the game goes for the most fundamental question, the why. Not finished yet, seeing the heartbroken wreck of a human being, a complete beast in terms of loving it up, seeing that guy going out to say, "hey, let's do it one more time, all together"? gently caress me, I was completely owned then and there. Not only it is beautiful, it is necessary, it is elevating - the best possible effect of an artistic experience imho. "In dark times, should the stars also go out?" dead gay comedy forums fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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dmboogie posted:PERCEPTION [Easy: Failure] - Your eyes glaze over as they drift towards the question-marked button underneath the moderator's avatar. What is before your eyes right now is the only truth that has ever existed.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2021 04:48 |
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cumshitter posted:The Fixing Cuno, Fixing Dicso mod makes the check way easier by allowing you to roll the highest of one of four stats. You should give it a shot.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2021 05:01 |
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fwiw Kim and Vicquemare do not think for a second you are on the take, neither does your captain
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2021 19:19 |
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EorayMel posted:Is that better or worse than saying the fascist thing to speedfreaks FM AND roping Kim along with it? two weeks probation minimum. mods?!
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2021 03:01 |
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EorayMel posted:Not only that, but guess what is an additional modifier for warning him at the tribunal ban +60 this sick filth
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2021 19:37 |
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Megazver posted:This is a video of highlights of someone else's playthrough: these guys' commentary is great, their reaction to when the game enters not loving around mode is brilliant
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 21:29 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Harry does not have Divorced energy, he has Breakup energy and those are totally different in my expert opinion incredibly so, yes
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2021 16:22 |
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christmas boots posted:You have to be a moralist to be abducted by a UFO though advesperacit is a banger of a track, fits really well when the gaze of coalition warship archer locks into our boys
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2021 22:21 |
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pedro0930 posted:What's with the language of Revachol? Is it canonically "French" but the game is mostly in English for the benefit of the player? Is it some kind of Creole language? Revachol's colonizers were the not-France of Elysium. However, as Revachol progressed to become the center of the world, it became a cosmopolitan city, hence the many different accents
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2021 16:59 |
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"robert, my portfolio is high effort shitposts in the literary themes of your work in the somethingawful forums. do you need a latin american writer?"
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2021 02:49 |
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McCloud posted:So uh We all agree Harry is some sort of a psychic, right? it all depends on how you play it. Shivers and Inland Empire are definitely the two out there in that sense. The rest falls more into the intuitive domain, which is arguably Harry's hidden super attribute filtered through the skills. It's a great way to demonstrate other forms of thinking the world that are just as intelligent or more than exclusively intellectual. But no, he ain't that to make for a fun take, it could be argued that Harry has a deeper semiotic awareness of the world when the player and the character collide. Stuff like commenting why Encyclopedia doesn't know poo poo about doing detective stuff or dialog showing alternatives like "I have no idea why I do the stuff I do". That's Harry talking, through your choices. He has no idea why you put him around to do random inane poo poo, but you know that you should talk to everybody and are curious to see what hilarious poo poo can happen by asking somebody about their socks or whatever, and that leads into relevant poo poo somehow and he has no idea why which can be sort of familiar when you consider doing some stuff in your life that looked completely whimsical and turned out to be one the most crucial things to ever happen, right?
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2021 19:14 |
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McCloud posted:Has this been posted yet? this loving game it is too good
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2021 07:27 |
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General Battuta posted:Send me your goon force, I am going to try to put together a thingaling and apply for the writer job. you have my powerful om, good general (it doesn't seem to be a remote position, I thought to apply but no conditions to leave here for now) McCloud posted:
if you do the moralintern vision quest, the jury rigged equipment catches something said in the future while harry is with headphones. then you get to the scene and holy poo poo there was this discussion in the other thread (iirc?) that the historical materialism of Elysium is more, uh, literal because of the pale, and the quest above furthers that case a lot
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2021 18:17 |
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sebmojo posted:Lmaooo
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# ¿ Dec 12, 2021 00:40 |
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Updog Scully posted:couple of interesting concepts in this art. The implication that Innocences are individuals who receive information from the future is a fascinating one. It makes a lot of sense given that Innocences "compress history" and make what happens in centuries happen in decades. What is up with the last Innocent, then? The game mentions that Sola, the last Innocence, refused to advance the world in an Innocentic fashion. Perhaps she didn't like what she saw? There's also the implication that the Pale both precedes and follows the world, like Dolores Dei suggests. A lot of that stuff is their own personal take on things compared to what the game shows, or at least what was the conceptual state of the game when they were working there. The "atomic structure of pale" goes against the pale being, well, the literal absence of things, unless it was supposed to be something else during that time. Fascism wants a return of the monarchy, but it doesn't represent the monarchical Revachol, etc granted they could also be working with background info that we might not be privvy now. it would be really great in a new game to discover that, actually, Elysium has developed scientific means to battle the Pale, through the application of CHICAGO HOUSE CANNONS, DETROIT TECHNO BLOWTORCH GUNS and UK JUNGLE/GARAGE HOWITZERS, weapons that force the expansion of the universe through the forceful impact of the sickest rhythmic beats and lights. Capital considers it too expensive to develop, so a certain lieutenant double yefreitor of the revachol citizens militia spearheads an uprising to transform that organization in its ultimate form: the revolutionary hardcore disco liberation front edit: a builder game like factorio or satisfactory where you are a pale worker forcing the universal will, blasting dimensionality and conquering the void, building roads and infrastructure between the nations, powered by some of the heaviest deep cuts and essential mixes known to humankind. ZA/UM, my account number is dead gay comedy forums fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Dec 15, 2021 |
# ¿ Dec 15, 2021 16:57 |
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No Mods No Masters posted:I think they have some weird pipeline where they periodically put in new things as they are animated/modeled. Feels like gilding the lily a bit but I guess it's cool just out of a relationship last saturday and IM NOT GOING TO TOUCH THIS GAME AGAIN STOP ADDING NEW CONTENT ZA/UM (I will eventually play it ofc)
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2021 08:07 |
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christmas boots posted:Enjoying the new scenes in the update. I had mixed feelings at the idea that you can overcome Kim’s eyebrow authority now but it was ultimately very funny. the ever-increasingly wrongly-named "the final cut"
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2021 04:16 |
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john shao presents john shao’s disco elysium by john shao played by kim kitsuragi
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2021 22:48 |
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FPyat posted:Was the conversation about the shack with the red chair and the bow tie in it new? no, it was there in the release. it is one of the most suggestive yet also one of the most subtle references in the game, I wrote about it in the other thread
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2022 05:12 |
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the previous thread, pre-final cut e: I'll eventually fetch that one
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2022 20:22 |
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Wafflecopper posted:wait, there's another thread?? found it, I posted it on the cspam gaming thread when I thought I posted in the previous disco thread. SPOILERS TO FOLLOW dead gay comedy forums posted:so, it is a pet hypothesis but Disco's textual strength definitely supports it and its "connectivity" (so to speak) is hella tight to allow storytelling by implication or subtlety
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2022 17:32 |
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2022 04:09 |
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sebzilla posted:Rhetoric: Of course you can, relationships are just a matter of saying exactly the right thing at exactly the right time. that's more like Suggestion though
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2022 03:21 |
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wiegieman posted:The ending of the communist vision quest is someone seriously bearing their soul. I thought the game owned my rear end enough already and then I got to the end of it and I cried harder. It's amazingly, amazingly good Pattonesque posted:In the dark times, should the stars also go out?
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2022 05:25 |
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sebmojo posted:the entire thread just took a sharp breath, then shook its head while exhaling slowly honestly, doing a preventative sixer to never let this happen again should be considered
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2022 15:07 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 00:19 |
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Disco Elysium by David Lynch or "what if we turn surrealism to the max and inland empire is in charge?"
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 22:01 |