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Moderna works and doesn't show the same degradation of function over time that Pfizer does, correct?

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Judakel posted:

I have to wait until january lmao

Vax Populi doesn't though.

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Steve Yun posted:

SO FAR. Pfizer has been around longer. We might see a droop in Moderna efficacy once it’s been around as long.

But for now we’re hoping it has staying power.

He have theories that it’s because it has 3x the volume or because the doses are spaced 4 weeks instead of 3 weeks, but who knows for now

Oh yeah absolutely still getting my booster sooner rather than later just curious if Pfizer's "you'll probably need a booster" talk from a while back was them specific. Sounds like it is so far.

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gradenko_2000 posted:

1. I'm not sure I want to imply that other vaccines don't work

2. The studies that have been cited that demonstrate waning effectivity of vaccines over time, for all of their flaws and caveats, do indicate that Moderna does not wane nearly as much, yes.

I didn't mean to imply the other vaccines don't work, apologies. Second part seems like the kind of knowledge it would be good to broadcast as widely as possible. Mostly I just wanted to make sure my own understanding of the situation wasn't off-base.

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Platystemon posted:

It owns that the draw of brunch is greater than the cinema’s. I can only imagine that the logic is “well I can see a movie at home, but you know what I can’t do? Eat.”

Also loling at the infectious disease experts who would eat at a restaurant while masked, somehow.

Amusingly, the D&D approved answer to this question is now “Moderna crew will need a booster because Joseph Robinette Biden (pbuh) did not make a distinction between the vaccines”.

tbf i'm Moderna'd up and getting a booster regardless so far be it from me to discourage anyone who wants more slut juice

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I haven't gone to a restaurant since March of 2020, I no longer give a gently caress about any of that and I'll never eat out again like I used to do all the time. I openly look down on the loving morons who are risking their lives for that garbage.

It was never about the food; eating out is about reinforcing your place in America's caste system as the served, not the server.

nah, it doesn't have to be
some people are scum, doesn't mean eating out is a caste system
nobody is born into the waiter caste

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Forseti posted:

:stare:

gently caress capitalism



In general the last X amount of time a person is alive (X varies but can be years) doesn't reveal who they really are or anything else, it's just a desperate scrabbling at the walls as mortality closes in. Getting mad at someone you've loved for decades as they're dying because they're not dying the way you wanted them to is dumb as hell.

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skewetoo posted:

Never worked retail?

It's not a caste system. Your parents working at Sears (well, when they still existed) doesn't mean you will.

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skewetoo posted:

I don't think there is any social mobility. I'm first gen in Canada and it's very clear that jobs in the labor aristocracy and above are closed off to me

I don't know enough about Canada to disagree. There are meaningful differences between the states and Canada though. Are trades an option?

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skewetoo posted:

Need a north american caste system thread :clint:

I would participate enthusiastically.

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osprey posted:

good advice that I want for later

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Platystemon posted:

I don’t understand why the software has trouble with long threads.

It only has to display one page at a time. There shouldn’t be a dependence on what’s on on every other page.

You can force the forums to display every post in a thread at once. Presumably that's as unhealthy for the forums as it is for your computer because of Radium.

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Thoguh posted:

We had this exact same conversation last summer in the COVID thread driven by the exact same posters that consider any type of situation where you purchase a service to be "renting a servant".

What an odd take. Seems demeaning almost? People in the various service industries aren't servants.

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Cup Runneth Over posted:

unless you can explain confidently why this is the case (not just link to preliminary studies suggesting it), I think you would be incredibly stupid to assume Moderna is just magically better than Pfizer and doesn't need a booster

I'm getting a booster. I appreciate the concern though.

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Mr Hootington posted:

Glenn is normally very right...

Outside of the Glenn thread people will ask you to substantiate this, best of luck.

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Ornery and Hornery posted:

KIRKLAND SIGNATURE

it’s wild how guilty I felt lying to Costco :smith:

You lied to Costco?! One thousand days shall ye spend without a sample. pbuc

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etalian posted:

Going for Moderna booster dose this week, I'll be sure to read the latest Gamefaqs guide before heading out.

If you crouch-jump right as you're getting the jab you can glitch out the level and skip straight to the funeral. Pro-tip for any speedruns.

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meet girls at the store posted:

What the gently caress? Thats like 1/14 of a large dog’s entire lifespan. Imagine moving to a new country and having to quarantine for like 4 years first.

Don't bring your lovely invasive species somewhere it's not wanted.

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Isentropy posted:

semi related - what do you think got the gravity of the situation across to Americans?

like I'm thinking the NBA stopping did a lot more to get people to realize this wasn't going to be like Ebola or SARS-1

If you had family in China or Italy you knew, but outside of that...

Outside of these threads for a lot of people it took until the first shutdown where retail just went poof overnight.

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I don't get people who are antivaxx under the assumption that the vaccine is designed to do something bad to the people who get it. If you're a shadowy cabal looking to reduce global population aren't the people who just do whatever you tell them to do the people you'd want to survive? Especially when the people who refuse the shot are all clearly strong independent survivors, the exact opposite of who you'd want to live through your global cull.

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inferis posted:

politicians are so relieved that people are mad at their class allies instead of the people who could stop this

antivaxxers are not class allies
seriously, feel free to go build solidarity with them, best of luck

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External Organs posted:

Is this the thread for whining about feeling like poo poo after Pfizer 3?

Should've switched to Moderna, Pfizer is poo poo.

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Harry Potter on Ice posted:

*lube and poppers CMON straights

don't tell them the secrets

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It really couldn't. Short of troops in the streets enforcing the laws Americans have embraced Covid (and dying of it).

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Mr Hootington posted:

We are going to kill another million people and not even blink lmao

They died free, and that's really obviously all Americans care about.

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The Moderna vaccine is more efficacious than the Pfizer vaccine and if someone has the choice they should get the Moderna vaccine. Does that sound accurate to people itt?

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Regarding the ivermectin this is just Mike Pence's plan working itself out. By making the people who vote for him a little more horse-like he might be able to bear skin to skin contact with them for just a little longer, making all those handshakes he has to do slightly less intolerable.

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Good. That's what the VP is for.

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Asproigerosis posted:

Wtf is pressured speech

Reading from a script while they've got your family just off screen.

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SKULL.GIF posted:

I pinged like a decade ago, been doing pretty well

It's actually really loving interesting to me watching the discourse abruptly shift the past 10 days from "lol, gently caress these control freaks" to ":qq: WHY WON'T THEY CARE :qq: THAT WE'RE DYING??? :qq:" I think we're rapidly approaching a pivot point here

lol, they're just going to keep blaming the nurses as they get ventilated
there's no pity left for the willfully unvaxxed and they hate it

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Atrocious Joe posted:

it's extremely funny that pharma companies have been saying for months that they plan to profit from "endemic" COVID
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-price-hike-post-pandemic/

that's from march

Pfizer vax being so much worse than Moderna vax but only the Pfizer vax being cleared by the FDA is some bullshit.

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Truniht posted:

knowing how his brain works he would’ve thought horse paste was actually horse paste and would’ve had all the antivaxxers here in Colorado and Wyoming shooting down herds for supply surplus

Pence would've immediately Article 25'd him.

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UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Anyone got any lockdown birthday ideas for the wife? This is her second lockdown birthday, also celebrated our 10th wedding anniversary in lockdown. :( I have no idea what to do.

Go to the ocean and throw yourself in. Or recreate the experience with a bucket of salt water.

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jisforjosh posted:

My brain parsed that as he was eating out a guy

his fault for not having the comma tbh

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Goatse Master posted:

So if you take your vaccine card to a clinic for the 3rd shot, will they care if you're switching from Pfizer to Moderna?

Asking ahead since I just got my second dose this week and I assume I should probably wait a few months before getting a booster

they will wink at you while saying 'there's really no difference' and then give you the good vax

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I like the way the dude he's trying to pick a fight with instantly levels him and then goes back to being defensive.

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Nodelphi posted:

Yeah, not a great choice I admit but besides the work obligations, my dumbass elderly parents didn’t evacuate and neither did my in-laws, one of which is bed bound and on hospice. I won’t abandon them. That being said I realize the risks, I have supplies and I do have experience with previous hurricanes, including Katrina.

I am not implying that staying is smart or a good call. Some people need to stay though to care for people who can’t leave.

You're a good person, goon speed.

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AWWNAW posted:

My mom got vaccinated in late may and died last Monday after about 5 days of what sounded like mostly fever and fatigue. She had a negative rapid test and was waiting on results of a better test

Sorry for your loss.

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