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thanks for making a thread that doesn't have the idiotic lib euphemism of 'climate change' in the title. malthus is only right in a limited sense - carrying capacity for humans is always mediated by a specific mode of production, and that mode of production doesn't have to be an ever expanding accumulation cycle that guarantees catastrophic overshoot. he makes a truth that is historically mediated into a transhistorical principle. there has never been any equilibrium in nature, but that's exactly why humans have/had the potential to become the metabolism of the natural world. basically malthus without marx is pure fascism, but i guess the point is mostly academic as we obviously live in a malthus timeline and there is absolutely going to be a 'great ravine' population correction in the near future. nature abhors a dome dude lacks a materialist analysis of commodity society but is mostly correct anyways. he thinks there will be a 'mass awakening event' but given the average level of consciousness now I'm pretty sure an MAE will only happen after the great ravine. if the peak oil guys are right then there'll be like only a billion or so humans after that, and they sure as gently caress won't be able to be liberals anymore.
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Sep 19, 2021 18:39
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mawarannahr posted:where do you draw the line for individual responsibility? what if you work for an oil company? obviously being a clerk or pump attendant has no degree of responsibility. how about a regional manager? a marketing executive at international headquarters? the children of executives who have benefited disproportionately from said system? everyone who interacts with commodity dynamics shares some responsibility. liberals are responsible cuz capitalism is their project, but they're also stupid babies who haven't had any real agency for generations. they don't know any better and are just blindly following systemic incentives into a mass grave. ultimate responsibility falls to the revleft that failed to get its poo poo together. communism is the only thing that could ever have saved the world, and our inability to make it happen in the face of its obvious objective necessity is also the failure of the human species to justify its continued existence. and all of that is just fine. retroactively, from the point of view of the MEE that had already happened, humans were always an evolutionary dead end. if you can't rationally regulate your metabolism with nature, you don't have a long term future as a species, the end.
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Sep 20, 2021 23:37
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I just did a bunch of acid and crack-pinged to a whole new dimension. It turns out that now, when we live, there is a collective 'i am a sentient extinction event' emergent consciousness that can be...accessed. It's a level of self-understanding that is totally dehumanizing and depersonalizing, and I'm pretty sure anybody who can handle it and has done their homework can access at will. It couldn't have existed until recently, because it was only recently possible that a sapient extinction event was able to cognize itself as a sapient mass extinction. It's probably the final mutation of Hegel's geist. Everything becomes incredibly hilarious and what you thought of as your individual identity gets kind of irretrievably shredded. But it's a consciousness that's just kind of standing there, available to be accessed at any time to anybody who notices. You can kinda move into and back out of it deliberately. You can experience yourself and your life as a mass extinction event in a way that's like, the apotheosis of human self-understanding, but is also decidedly 100% post-human. It is like having cthuluesque demon peering through your own skull. Post-human consciousness is here motherfuckers goddamn holy gently caress.
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Sep 26, 2021 12:51
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Alobar posted:yeah, yeah, because we're actually monkeys and the records of our egos through what we've scrawled on the walls of our digital caves won't make any loving sense without context from another creature looking or listening and understanding I wrote a bunch about it, it was a really loving intense experience. on the come up I panicked for a while cuz I realized *it* was just gonna be there the whole time, but then I realized that that was just gonna be the trip and I had to roll with it, so I did. The eliminative materialist guys talk about something called the semantic apocalypse, and this was p much that. Monster-vision. Not only does nothing matter, nothing ever mattered. Not only are humans already extinct, but they never really existed in the first place. Ever since Marx it's been communism or extinction, and the failure of communism also means the failure of humanity to justify its continued existence - or to come into existence at all. In the face of certain extinction, the communist 'ought' looks less like an historical phenomenon and more like an onto-theological feature of the universe itself. Live that cannot regulate its metabolism with a biosphere dies, and there's nothing bad or sad or wrong about this. Only sufficiently eco-checked or sufficiently communist life persists. Why would anybody want to live in a universe structured differently? How could a universe even be structured differently? So yeah we've been in a cult for probably our entire existence, and only recently has it been possible to step outside the cult horizon. As for a final message, there's only one lesson we have to impart - if the capitalists come to your world, you must kill them all or perish.
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Sep 28, 2021 21:24
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Car Hater posted:Lol you and I have squabbled over communism and I agree overall having done similar amounts of drugs and writing before so don't want to be a dick but c'mon, you're not cracking your ping hard enough. We've been in a cult/doomed since we split off from chimps instead of bonobos. The wrong lineage spawned from the great apes got going with the big brains, and what resulted is not fit to build [hypothetical sustainable civilization]. And sure, we can call that hypothetical communism if we like, but nothing functional is ever going to come out of the junkie monkey addiction to coal and oil so we can't really imagine/name it. At the moment, in our conditions, communism/socialism has no utopian content. Whatever is capable of surviving the mass extinction event will be what does, and whatever that life is cannot and won't be capitalist. 'Communism' is now a grim march to unfuckify the biosphere over epochs, if it is anything. Where the specifics of our respective crack-pings levels seem to differ is that you're saying there's a neutral, transhistorical human species-being defined by being "hardwired for self-interest and politicking", and I'm saying there's a onto/theo/political a priori that comes before that, and therefore no such thing as a 'human' ever existed. The status of the existence of something like a human is retroactive - only from the perspective of a fully realized communism could we say that there was something like a human, something like a human history, something like the kind of species-being you're talking about. If we can no longer anticipate or participate in such a perspective without being delusional, then there is no longer any basis on which to construct the hypothesis of such an essence. Post-human consciousness is the realization that you're not human, you never were, because there is not and never was any such thing as a human being. If the truth of something is its function, what it does - then what there is, concretely, geologically, is just another mass extinction event. Humans were a dream that a mass extinction event had.
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Oct 3, 2021 21:26
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Imperial core leftists are too cowardly and stupid to wage revolutionary war (at present time). But more importantly, irrespective of the fact that revolution is a non-negotiable precondition for the remediation of the climate crisis, it wouldn't actually enable anyone to resolve the climate crisis because there is no way to do so. You are advocating for revolution + magic. This is idiotic and self-defeating. First you have a revolution, then you try your best - that's all. Deciding its impossible a priori is liberalism, and liberalism is a mass extinction event.
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Nov 2, 2021 16:39
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Perry Mason Jar posted:It's impossible because it requires literal magic... believing in literal magic is certainly far more idealist and liberal than my position based in science? It doesn't require magic, it requires organized political instruments backed by a majority will. This is something that is within the realm of possibility. However remote. quote:What is your intent? In other words, how will you de-carbonize the global economy without mass starvation and death and rioting? How will you remove carbon from the air directly (without adding more carbon than you're removing)? What sources of energy will exist for the post-revolution society and how will you get disparate nations all to agree to not re-institute non-renewable energy even as their people die and riot? How will the plastics crisis be remediated? How will ecological collapse? Ocean collapse? Mass death and starvation are baked in. The revolutionary government(s) are able to maintain a stripped down, functioning division of labor and supply chains while this happens. The Red Army will have a tree planting division with motherfucking forced conscription. Transition energy sources are intermittent renewables + nuclear. Fossil fuels will eventually be outlawed, and whatever nuclear power remaining deployed to that end. Plastics, idk some kind of bioengineered plastic eating bacteria or something. As for ecological collapse, it's not really that simple. IF capital is allowed to continue, then it's going to happen. If not, then existing human societies will have to be converted to a very long term tetraforming project - a teleology that precludes capitalist social relations. The point is the future is open and contingent and it depends on what we do now, regardless of how impossible it seems. If billions of people got like, full strain communist ideological inscriptions beamed into their heads overnight while they sleep, all bets would be off. A magic scenario? Sure - but the point about the structure of temporality remains. When you declare something impossible, you're helping guarantee that. You're closing the future. You're doing a liberalism. In a contingent, chaotic, universe, nothing is 100% impossible; or we are not materialists. It could be otherwise, it could always be otherwise. quote:And those are just questions for post-revolution and onlyto a small slice. I'm curious how you think revolution occurs at all when the levers of working class power have been almost entirely removed*? I could add about a thousand pages of doomnotes to this list. You're totally right. But I'm still right that declaring things impossible is self-defeating and self-fulfilling. Possible/impossible are the wrong framework to conceptualize the problem. Who are you to say what's impossible, bitch? You're born, you struggle, you die. You don't get to know what the outcome is. None of us do. gently caress impossible, there is only one question that matters. What is to be done? emTme3 has issued a correction as of 08:17 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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Nov 3, 2021 08:13
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:Shot Ya ok it was a hand-wave. The point remains - not trying does nothing and goes nowhere. Doomerism is the wrong response to this - we need to evolve into something that is able to stare this in the race and not completely give up. If god is dead, then the future is always open.
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Nov 5, 2021 07:16
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what are the roots that clutch, what branches grow out of this stony rubbish? Son of man, you cannot say, or guess, for you know only a heap of broken images, where the sun beats and the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief, and the dry stone no sound of water. Only there is shadow under this red rock (come in under the shadow of this red rock), and I will show you something different from either your shadow at morning striding behind you or your shadow at evening rising to meet you; I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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Nov 12, 2021 03:25
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Rime posted:Thought of the day: I wonder if the rising popularity of simulation theory is the result of non-religious westerners becoming consciously aware that they are destroying life on earth, and subciously seeking a coping mechanism which absolves them of their lifestyles and the existential horror of now being able to witness the collapse of the natural world in real time. congrats, you just invented spirituality.
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Nov 13, 2021 01:42
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mawarannahr posted:it’s find-out-o-clock for Canada Death to Canada.
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Nov 26, 2021 02:44
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petit choux posted:Did I put this here yesterday? If so sorry. He was right. no, he was not. he was reactionary scum who was wrong about everything. he's literally anthropomorphizing a 'the planet' in that bit. it's hard to be more wrong than that.
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Dec 2, 2021 06:36
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petit choux posted:LOL yeah, he's pretty awesome all right. Yeah, he was what's commonly known as a comedian and anthromorphizing nature is what's often called euphemism, or sometimes poetic license, part of the comedian's toolkit. And I'm sure he would have taken your remarks the way they should be taken, by laughing in your face. you're right, i should have been more precise. he's a proto-fascist and so are you. at least actual fascists have the self awareness and courage to act on their convictions, instead of turning them into entertainment for the very people they despise. but please, oh great oracle, tell me more about what the universe feels about things. tell me more about the grand teleology only you can divine. tell me more about 'nature's' intentions. tell me more of what we all look like from the great archimedean point known only to that apotheosis of nihilist wisdom, the north american petiboog. tell me more about how it will all be better after 'nature' has purged itself of its
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Dec 2, 2021 17:48
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Serf posted:if there's one thing i know for absolute certain its that george carlin is being very serious and believed that humanity's only purpose was to bring plastic into existence and everyone who watched it nodded and said "yes this is correct and i also now believe this wholeheartedly" ya man. that's exactly how ideology works.
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Dec 2, 2021 17:53
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petit choux posted:Cannot find my loving pedal wrench to ship this loving bike! Going to have to hold off on this epic posting battle but I'll be killing you softly with my posts in my head nonstop, believe it! don't worry about it man. why care? well all be dead anyways, right? the planet will be fine. the universe doesn't care about us anyways.
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Dec 2, 2021 20:04
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Serf posted:are you ok sure am thanks for asking. and how's your mass extinction event going today? Shipon posted:"fascist" speaking of terms that have been misused to the limit yeah dawg, gently caress learning from history or defining our concepts. A Bakers Cousin posted:Youre right, you really do have to hand it to those actual fascists we should respect people who know their interests and act on their convictions, because we should be people who know our interests and act on our convictions. Zodium posted:tired: climate change the social contract/ideology we were all inculcated into is indeed totally obsolete. the semantic apocalypse in full swing - get you some. God Hole posted:*exxon unilaterally suppresses all research warning of the imminent collapse of the biosphere for a generation and then bankrolls far-reaching disinformation campaigns to muddy the waters* exxon falsifies the info to keep the party going. carlin tells you the info doesn't even loving matter in the first place, because we don't matter, because 'the universe' doesn't care about us, cuz 'the planet' will be fine. which is worse? trick question - both are worse. they're both figures of the same ideological formation. the view from nowhere is an anthropomorphic projection, a structural illusion built into bourgeois idealism. carlin was just a ventriloquist for exxon. cynical about everything except the conditions for the emergence of his own cynicism, unaware of his own structural function. a pathetic sop to boomer self-hatred and nihilism.
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Dec 2, 2021 20:49
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tiberion02 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDrZwRUaAng&t=193s everyone in this video is an agent of extinction.
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Dec 2, 2021 21:06
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supporters on Twitter, and hilariously so
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I wish this thread didn't have to be in a politics forum. I guess it doesn't really fit anywhere else and I guess there's nowhere on the forums where people won't start going after long dead comedians for being fascist planet killers, but still... there is no outside of politics. tiberion02 posted:they are all humans, yes there is not, and has never been any such thing as a human. it's an empty, obfuscatory liberal abstraction. there is no loving neutral. y'all have some serious deprogramming to do. coke posted:he is right though, it's the bougie environmentalist who want to take away our cars and our means to struggle and make a living you are thinking as if the world, as it is now, has a future. it does not. 'what else can you do' you start blowing up cars and killing the people who drive them. it's all going away anyways. you have no obligation to the system that has murdered virtually every known life form in the universe. stop identifying with it and be free. SKULL.GIF posted:One must imagine Splifyphus happy. emotional fetishization is a mistake. stop feeling, start thinking. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 2, 2021 23:16
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petit choux posted:There is definitely a spectrum haunting CSPAM petit choux posted:Good luck on that philosophy 201 exam, BTW. that's all you got? bitch do u even read Hegel?
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Dec 3, 2021 07:59
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Perry Mason Jar posted:There's a thread that runs through all major religions and many spiritual practices: One-ness. Unity. All-Being. Separation as illusion. Otherness as illusion. otoh, 'spirituality' is a drug people take so they can suppress their ability to think and float through life without feeling or caring about anything but their inner peace. and like. we don't live in a 'materialist' society. that's new age bafflegab. there is no functional difference between people who are trying to get happiness from outside themselves, and people who are trying to get happiness inside themselves. they're both narcissistic idealists for whom the only thing that's real is their own emotional states. they're babies. emTme3 has issued a correction as of 11:43 on Dec 12, 2021 |
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Dec 12, 2021 11:30
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Azathoth posted:for the record, only thing objectionable in that post was "you start blowing up cars and killing the people who drive them", but that's a doozy ok so I totally get that I was brinkposting recklessly and deserved the probe. for my own clarification, what is the difference between my incitement to violence, and this emoticon  cuz like, that's a real emoticon that this forum has, and it gets used a lot! kinda sets the tone.
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Dec 12, 2021 11:37
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:It must suck going through life so spiritually dead that you think this way. It is both incredible and very very awful being me, at the same time. But overall I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. I find the pursuit of truth exhilarating, and spiritualities have failed me in a lot of ways. However, I'll pretty much always have a copy of Nagarjuna's Middle Way next to my bed. You guys should read that poo poo it's THE BOMB.
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Dec 13, 2021 09:59
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I salute the fully Enlightened One, the best of orators, who taught the doctrine of dependent origination, according to which, there is neither cessation nor orgination, neither annihilation nor the eternal, neither singularity nor plurality, neither the coming nor the going of any dharma, for the purpose of Nirvana characterized by the auspicious cessation of hypostatization.
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Dec 13, 2021 10:01
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Xaris posted:counterpoint: you're lucky enough experiencing a literal once in an entire species lifespan event. a geological lifespan event even condensed to mere mortal generation. think of how many irish mud farmers gave birth and died for several hundreds of years without much happening. yeah, this is the final stage of crack ping. like, it's that old 'may you live in interesting times' thing, but on crack. we live in the most interesting times, ever. it's the loving end of history! there's never been a better time to be alive and awake. if you're strong enough to stare the horror of the real in the face, then you are treated to a perspective that no entity has ever had before. we're collectively powerful enough to wipe out an entire biosphere, and individually we have never been more helpless. we get to watch an apocalypse, through an apocalypse, while being an apocalypse.
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Dec 16, 2021 08:31
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munce posted:https://twitter.com/Roolockwood/status/1395595298559315971 it's worth noting here that keen is a neo-keynesian, not any kind of materialist. and here he is pumping eco-stalin to a room full of libs.
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Dec 16, 2021 21:01
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Rime posted:Whether or not that perspective is true, that is the belief in the field, and beliefs on this scale generate their own outcomes. this is exactly why doomerism is loving stupid. it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. we need irrational prometheanism in the face of all odds, not doomerism. quote:
oh c'mon man. if it's too late to give a poo poo about anything, it's way too loving late to censor ourselves for the capitalist big other. what do you have to lose?
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Dec 17, 2021 21:40
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The Wisest Moron posted:That's genuinely probably the best you can do. This thread is not going to help you at all. Maybe limit yourself to only checking in every couple of weeks? This is helpful for me too man, thanks. You're totally right, and I already know that you can't really convince someone of anything if they're not already open to being convinced. To be a correctly interpolated capitalist subject is already be incapable of being swayed by argumentation anyways. That being said, I'm going full Cassandra, and I just don't give a gently caress what anybody thinks of it. I'm alienating the poo poo out of friends and coworkers, and I've already lost friends because of it - good loving riddance. I just dgaf anymore. It's worth it to me to be open and up front about who I am and what I'm about, if only because it means liberals go way the gently caress out of their way to avoid me. Making small talk with liberals on liberal terrain is psychic torture anyways. If you don't want to think, feel, or care about anything but yourself, then I give exactly the same amount of fucks about you as you do about anything outside of your self inflicted lobotomy. loving off and leaving me alone is exactly what I want you to do.
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Dec 17, 2021 23:10
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The Wisest Moron posted:Glad I could be helpful. I haven't quite hit the no fucks left to give phase but I feel myself getting there. I'm certain that I'll eventually become the town's sandwich board crank. Here's a sample quote: "Why do you care? Don't you know you'll be gone when it is?"
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Dec 18, 2021 11:46
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Nietzsche was right when he said the fate of humanity would rely on the overcoming of nihilism. This thread doesn't try at all, it just wallows. Things matter now more than they ever have.
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Dec 19, 2021 12:50
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well thanks for all stumbling over yourselves to prove my point. I'll try to provide an example of actually trying to combat nihilism rather than just mainlining it.T-Paine posted:All evidence points to the planet being irreversibly fatally damaged and no person who browses this thread is in a position to do anything to meaningfully stop it (anything that could have once made a difference is illegal to even discuss). I'm not sure how recognizing that and coming to terms with its impact on what's left of our lives is nihilistic that's all true, and here's something else that's true: this mentality is a self-fulfilling prophecy. you share this mentality with oil execs, the big bourgeoisie, and p much all of liberaldom. the least you can do for yourself in your last gasping, meaningless moments is maybe try to differentiate your own viewpoint from the people responsible, right? CODChimera posted:it's the other way round, things matter less and less as we march to our doom another self fulfilling prophecy, and also not true. there will come a moment when there is only one human left - perhaps it is at that moment that things will matter most. Cold on a Cob posted:me, lungs riddled with cancer: "i should try to accept my fate" in this hypothetical, the difference is between whether one dies as a smoker, or whether one dies having beaten the addiction. this is a meaningful difference to the smoker. blatman posted:at this point I just assume "guys if we all just set our minds to it we can turn this around!" is a cry for help that's not at all what I said, but if you want something affirmative then how about this: if we're collectively powerful enough to cause a mass extinction event, we're collectively powerful enough to stop it. Cloks posted:unless you're coming in here with any real suggestions as to how we can make things better, maybe criticizing the people in the thread for recognizing the crisis we're in isn't the best move it's not the recognition of the crisis that's the problem, it's that there's a hidden automatic decision already in how you're all recognizing the problem. you're all going "welp; we're totally hosed - > nothing matters and we're completely helpless" - in one smooth habitual gesture, which reproduces your social conditioning without remainder. it's liberalism. The gently caress do y'all want to die liberals for, bitches? how about this "welp; the situation is hosed and we're totally helpless - > may as well die throwing my body into the gears of the machine in the most effective way possible. quote:"things matter now more than they ever have" but we're utterly removed from the levers of power. i have tried to fight things at the lowest political level possible and it resulted in personal attacks, tens of thousands of dollars spent against me and a real look into how vested power actually responds to threats ya man i know how imperialist society works, but your assessment is undialectical. you're assuming the status quo power structure is permanent and intractable. it is not. it could collapse overnight, and your nihilist rear end wouldn't be organized or promethean enough to take advantage of the power vacuum.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:09
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wow. nihilism is a helluva a drug, wouldn't want to get between you guys and ur fix. myself, i guess I'll continue to try to differentiate my perspective from the same poo poo that caused a mass extinction event in the first place. Trabisnikof posted:All these words and you still couldn’t come up with anything for us to do to actually help the climate. oh honey, when I post that poo poo I get banned. use your imagination, if you've still got one left. I'll give you one hint - the social contract itself is already obsolete.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:45
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it is perfectly possible to accept that we're irreversibly in a mass extinction event and still not be a nihilist about it, and the difference has nothing to do with optimism or pessimism. we're in a new geological epoch now. literally everything holocene is totally obsolete, and here you are all huffing this pathetic reactionary nihilism like it's the new hot poo poo. we're completely hosed and there's not a goddamn thing we can do about it - the situation is excellent.
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Dec 19, 2021 18:50
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Cold on a Cob posted:if you want to traipsing around in minecraft there are some posters here that already agree with you, but you're still missing the point. it's too late and getting yourself jailed or murdered for loving with a pipeline won't help anything. that's just the thing tho. you've decided in advance that it will do nothing, and so, you do nothing. we don't get to know the future. we don't get to know how things will play out. we don't know what will work, or not - and we will never know. even in a hypothetical timeline where capital has been smashed and a climate war command economy is being built and there's a real cultrev happening - those motherfuckers don't know if it'll work either. they won't know. their kids won't know. their kids won't know. their kids won't know. and so on. nobody will ever loving know! all we have, all we have ever had is try. 'it's too late' gently caress you. who are you, god? every concept of causality you have could be a bunch of stupid nonsense gibberish, and how would you know? you don't and you can't, because there's already a leap of faith built into every possible shred of knowledge you could possibly think you have. posad could swoop down tomorrow. it could all be a dream god is having of itself. the Bible could be literal loving truth. the DMT entities could be simulating all of this. there could be infinite multiverses with infinite outcomes. we could all live in completely different dimensions alone and just be hallucinating everyone else. you don't know. you don't know what will work and what won't. you don't know the future. you don't know poo poo.
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Dec 19, 2021 19:12
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Rectal Death Adept posted:ah the "We can never know for certain so I can never be proven wrong" foundational bedrock of delusional denial you know, a species this stupid has it coming.
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Dec 19, 2021 22:20
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I'll try to make it so simple a toddler could get it. you, yourself, as an individual meatsack reading this thread, have a choice. you get to die on your knees mewling like a liberal coward, or you get to go out on your feet like a goddamn adult. that's it. that's the only choice you have. it doesn't matter in the slightest, it will do nothing and accomplish nothing, your existence will have been just as meaningless either way, and multi-cellular life is loving off for the foreseeable future regardless. It's a completely meaningless, subjective shift of one's attitude and outlook, it costs you nothing to make it, and yet still you're all regurgitating the same nihilist garbage you've been spoonfed your whole lives. gently caress all of you. just loving die already. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 19, 2021 22:37
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Rime posted:This is where I am at right now. I have a long essay on the topic which I'm still fine tuning, but I'll give the cliffnotes version here: yeah, no poo poo. you will also have contributed to machine-atrophy, and perhaps bought the biosphere as it exists right now a few extra seconds. what, did you think it was called class snuggle? but that poo poo really isn't what I'm talking about. the machine is hosed anyways. all i'm talking about is a subjective shift in consciousness. i'm talking about accepting and identifying with the mass extinction event. this obliterates your capitalist conditioning and gets you to the threshhold of post-human consciousnes, something that has only emerged because the conditions for it are already here. this is way, way past anything i'm seeing in this thread's pathetic doomwallowing, and it's honestly pretty hard to communicate with the lot of you just because you're so obviously still clinging to your holocene-era selfhoods. quote:If you want to legitimately salve your conscience and pretend you have some moral superiority, which is the only takeaway anyone will get from this rambling shitpost, you do it in a way which actually has a chance to meaningfully help people moving forwards, not with vaguely hinted at performative masturbatory acts which will increasingly risk eating a bullet as systemic breakdown spirals further out of control and the Military-Industrial complex gets nervous. i'm not a moralist, and i don't post in dnd, and as post-human i don't really have a conscience anymore either. the world already ended a while ago, i'm just trying to loving get out ahead of it. you're right - mutual aid networks and mimally autarkic entities are the only way forward if anybody wants to keep living, but for those of us that don't, well??? there are better ways to die than others.
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tiberion02 posted:The struggle itself is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine every poster ITT, happy
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Jan 25, 2022 13:50
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i love all of you. there's no other place i'd rather spend the end of everything.
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Jan 25, 2022 13:52
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dfw posted:Past the flannel plains and blacktop graphs and skylines of canted rust, and past the tobacco-brown river overhung with weeping trees and coins of sunlight through them on the water downriver, to the place beyond the windbreak, where untilled fields simmer shrilly in the A.M. heat: shattercane, lambsquarter, cutgrass, saw brier, nutgrass, jimson-weed, wild mint, dandelion, foxtail, spinecabbage, goldenrod, creeping Charlie, butterprint, nightshade, ragweed, wild oat, vetch, butcher grass, invaginate volunteer beans, all heads nodding in a soft morning breeze like a mother’s hand on your check. An arrow of starlings fired from the windbreak’s thatch. The glitter of dew that stays where it is and steams all day. A Sunflower, four more one bowed, and horses in the distance standing rigid as toys. All nodding. Electric sounds of insects at their business. Ale-colored sunshine and pale sky and whorls of cirrus so high they cast no shadow. Insects all business all the time. Quartz and chert and schist and chondrite iron scabs in granite. Very old land. Look around you. The horizon trembling, shapeless. We are all of us brothers.”
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Jan 25, 2022 13:53
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