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Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Long time Dragon Quest fan here. I've played through and beaten 1, 3, 4, 5, and 8. I never had the patience to play through 7 even though I have it. For some reason, I haven't taken the time with 2, but I plan to play 6 on the DS and I'll get to 9 eventually.

Out of the games I've beaten, I personally like 8 the best because I believe it has the best pacing and the grinding is rarely bad unless you are metal hunting. Plus, the English version had an excellent musical score. I'm playing through the game again, currently on my way to Trodain, however since DQ6 just came out on the DS, that will be postponed for a while as I play through that game.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2011 01:57

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:07

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

LooseChanj posted:

It was so much better than 7 when it comes to stuff you can figure out without needing to look at a drat walkthrough every 2 minutes. But you know you haven't finished it until you beat the bonus boss right? And jesus christ is that one bitch of a battle, I think it took me over an HOUR. And that's on top of the hundred or so hours of grinding it took to get to the level where I could.

Yep, I've beaten all of the bonus bosses and gotten pretty much everything in the game. It's just so good that I'm playing it over.

At least my strategy for beating the bonus boss was Accelerate + Timbrel + Helm Splitter + Dragon Soul. A 50 or 100 tensioned Dragon Soul does thousands of damage and if you have two Timbrels, you can get to 50 in 1 turn.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2011 02:49

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

LooseChanj posted:

Ok, I really wanna clarify this. Did you do the one where you fight every single form the dragovian dude takes, one after another with no rest inbetween, until you get the Ultimate dragon?

Yep! It's not that hard if you hunker down and manage your MP well and keep some items on hand. Two Timbrels on Jessica and Angelo, MP restoring items and a Sage's Stone on Yangus help out a lot.

First Round:
Hero: Tension
Yangus: Helm Splitter
Jessica: Accelerate
Angelo: Timbrel

Second Round:
Hero: Dragon Soul (he's usually slower than Jessica and Angelo, so he will get hit by at least another Timbrel)
Yangus: Helm Splitter/Kabuff (if you have it)/Sage's Stone
Jessica: Accelerate/Insulate/Oomph/Timbrel
Angelo: Kabuff/Multiheal/Timbrel

This usually has him hurting. Twin Dragon Lash is also a great skill and does massive damage when tensioned.

Also keep in mind that you can bring in your Monster Teams once for each dragon. Each fight is counted as a separate fight.

DQ8 tactics. :v:

Edit:

Volitaire posted:

I just finished the main quest in 8 and was wondering about the post game stuff. I'm around level 50 after doing some metal grinding, but I'm really sick of it. The guides I looked at mostly recommended being around 60-65 for the post game stuff, but you think it's doable at my level?

It's going to be extremely difficult if not nearly impossible. The bonus bosses and post game monsters hit extremely hard and that extra HP and MP come in handy. Plus there are a lot of extras in the end game that make it worth the grind. Even in the 70s the bonus bosses can be a challenge.

Kuros fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Feb 18, 2011

# ¿ Feb 18, 2011 03:07

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

While we are doing roll call:

1: Beat a long time ago.
2: Got about half way in, haven't finished.
3: Beat a few times over.
4: Beat on the NES and DS
5: Beat on the DS
6: Played a bit, need to get into it more.
7: Got bored, need to get back to it.
8: Beat a few times over.
9: Played a little bit.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2011 16:34

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Himuro posted:

I love how the succubus' try to charm Jessica with their breasts and Jessica is like, never impressed.

That game is hilarious.

Well, when you have the best tits in the game, it's hard to be impressed by other tits. :v:

# ¿ Mar 29, 2012 20:07

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Portfolio posted:

I'm looking to get into the DQ series. I've never played a DQ game before in my life, but I have played (and mostly enjoyed) Final Fantasies I through X and the Chrono series. Where should I start?

Right now I'm thinking the DQIV remake for DS. I was going to go with DQIX, but apparently it's long and quite hard, so maybe not the best intro to the series. I've heard that DQVIII is a good starting point; I'm not opposed to that if that really is the best place to start, but logistics make the DS a little more attractive to me as a platform, at least for the near future. I wouldn't say no to DQVII, I guess, but I've heard it's long as poo poo. Thoughts?

I'd say start with 8. But if you want to go with the DS route, start with 4 and work your way through 4/5/6 on the DS.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2012 19:48

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Crimson Harvest posted:

Speaking of DQ8, I'm fast approaching it in my to-do list. Are there some skills I should specifically avoid?

Personally I'd go:

Hero: Sword and Courage. Also try to get to Lightning Thrust in Spear for Metal farming

Yangus: Axe or Scythe as both are pretty good and at least 10 in Humanity for Heal, but getting up to Share Magic is pretty good as well.

Jessica: Whip and Staff. Sex Appeal is an after thought and the other two aren't great.

Angelo: A bit tough as most of his skills or good. Sword or Bow, your preference. Staff is great as well. Charisma is pretty decent.

Most of your skill seeds should go to Hero or Angelo. Give Yangus some here and there, Jessica doesn't really need any since she's focused only on Whip and Staff.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2014 04:32

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Gaius Marius posted:

Are points really that scarce though? I'm pretty sure I filled out three trees all the way on my playthrough.

Anyways if you have the patience to savescum to get the gringham whip in the casino make sure you put enough points into whips for Jessica to get Twin Dragon Lash. That attack and whip single handedly made her my biggest damage dealer. She was regularly doing three to four times as much damage a turn as Yangus and Hero put together.

The only skills I can remember that you should avoid completely are the club skills for Yangus which are widely considered inferior to both axe and scythe. I might go axe though as the Executioner ability is very useful for felling metal slimes.

I believe if you get to level 99, you get 350 skill points naturally.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2014 16:52

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

DACK FAYDEN posted:

In fairness, I've heard there are 2ch posters that fuckin love Fallout: New Vegas but I've only heard it thirdhand through scuttlebutt on these forums, like, there could easily be huge fans of Western games there that aren't known about here, right?

True, JP did go wild with the Wizardry series.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 23:31

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

AngryRobotsInc posted:

Oh man, the end of the tournament in XI is mean. drat it, old man!

Grind, but the grind in XI is annoying until you can get a reliable way to summon metals.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2019 18:25

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

If only Vince would throw infinite herbs my way and just shut up it would have been easy enough.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2019 20:54

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Avalerion posted:

Ran into my first real hurdle in DQ11 - how the gently caress do I deal with Booga? Party is around level 37, is there some recommended place to go grind open at this point?

Keep in mind that Buffs/Debuffs are super important in DQ11. So things that prevent him from beguiling your team helps. Sap and Oomphle help as well. I'd would probably still grind a few spots that have metal slimes/lms.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 19:35

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Xalidur posted:

Tippy-tip of the postgame spoilers ahead in the form of a cry for aid. I'll keep it pretty generic but I'm covering it up just in case.

Anyone have tips for the post-postgame Tickington battles? I'm playing on Stronger Monsters. I was able to beat the big boss without reducing his power (just for style points) but I'm getting creamed by these. I'm not sure what to even do besides grind seeds or pep pops which seems pretty lame.

I tried Googling this but I could only find other people complaining about it. Which checks out...

Yggdragon's Blessing abuse + lots of Magic Bursts from Veronica. Grind those Pep Pops. Keep in mind that pep status does not carry over from 3d to 2d. I still haven't beat Timewyrm on Stronger Monsters just yet. Literally the last thing to do for me.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2019 16:45

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I like puns as much as the next guy, but I really have to wonder if �Metal King Gooreatsword� was really nessecary.

The answer is always yes.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2019 17:09

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

-Fish- posted:

What's the best Charm boosting gear for Jade in post-game? I've got the post-game bikini outfit and two +3 Belle Bows already.

+3

Split-Pot Poker = 90 Charm
Xenlon Hair Ring = 125 Charm
Scandalous Swimsuit = 150 Charm
Marquess Mittens = 28 Charm each

I'd have to check in game if there are other items that give higher stats. Besides I believe the max Charm that's effective for Jade is 600, after that it's pointless.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2019 04:06

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

BrightWing posted:

Dq11 postgame chat Im on harder monsters at level 75 and feel like my poo poo still gets kicked in regularly.

DQ11 Postgame chat: Once I get all characters in Act 3 and they are back to proper levels, I Electrolight grind to 99 immediately since I play with Stronger Monsters.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 01:05

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Bertilak posted:

Hello, I apologize if this has been asked and answered previously, but I don't want to read the thread to avoid spoilers. I bought DQ11 when it first came out for the PS4, but I have not gotten around to playing it yet. I have heard that the Switch version is pretty much superior. Is it worth waiting to see if the definitive edition content gets ported over, or is it worth just trading my copy in and just purchasing the Switch version?

I've played and beat the PC and Switch versions of the game.

Get the Switch version. The minor dip in graphics makes up for it in the quality of life changes and extra content.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 18:49

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Amppelix posted:

Is there any particular reason to do a quest that I don't care for the rewards of in XI? Like, does something happen if I finish all of them or something? I'm mostly missing these dumb pep power quests at this point.

They are honestly not too hard for the most part. The only quest that's really annoying is the casino quest.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 18:21

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Amppelix posted:

Wands only give you a piddling amount of magical might/mending, too, which will most likely not even affect the output of your spells with the way DQ handles that.

I prefer to use wands/staffs that give a buff or general bonus. Fantastick gives Snap Crackle Poof at 100% for a +3 which is a great way to make sure that Serena doesn't get debuffed right away. The Faerie King's Cane is also a good choice at +3 for 10% all damage reduction and 25hp restored per turn.

It's also another reason why I like equipping Hero and Eight with the Berserker Blade and then switching to their main weapon. For things like the Wheel of Harma, you can scum for the 10% Oomph and then switch weapons.

Kuros fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jan 13, 2020

# ¿ Jan 13, 2020 00:12

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

The Postman posted:

Any recommendations on a next DQ game to try out coming out of 11? I just have a few things to wrap up with the post-game and Switch content and I'm still hankering for more.

8 on the 3ds is very good, and 7 is also on the 3ds. I know they cut down the slog a bit on 7 3ds but I don't know by how much as I haven't played it yet.
4 through 6 on the DS are all good.
1 through 3 are available on mobile, but those can be a bit much for some people. 1 is pure progression grind and 2 is brutal late in the game. 3 is where I believe the series hits its stride.

# ¿ Jan 29, 2020 17:36

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Son of a Vondruke! posted:

I'm having a lot of trouble with the final Tickington fights on Stronger Monsters. Hall of Remembrance 3 is really kicking my rear end. Has anyone here finished it on Stronger Monsters? Any tips? I got this far by having Eight tank with forbearance but the second group does so much damage he can't survive a turn. And without him tanking everyone else just melts.

Hero/Eight/Serena/Veronica

Max level, +3 Meteorite Bracers & +3 Catholicon Rings on everyone. Best armor and weapons of course, +3 everything. Load up everyone with Pep Pops and Elfin Elixirs. Ideally you should be able to use a Pep Pop and then Yggdragon's Blessing right away before you get into too much trouble. From there it's all about Magic Burst spam. Eight can use Forbearance when the blessing wears off, but get it back asap. When the blessing is on, have Hero and Eight spam their best attacks. Serena will either be healing or trying to inflict status effects on the enemies.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2020 16:29

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

DalaranJ posted:

Anyone have any experience with the dragon quest randomizer? I�m not sure how to set it up, is this just an ips or do I need to drag and drop, or run an executable from powershell?

https://github.com/mcgrew/dwrandomizer

Near the bottom of this has instructions on how to run the randomizer.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2020 18:02

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

RareAcumen posted:

Dq11s

If you go back in time using a church, can you play through the game and get more of the unique weapons like the Bad axe and stuff? I somehow managed to get two Deft Daggers so I'm wondering if it's possible to get more of the other ones.

I forget how but I've heard there's some way to cheese the game using swapping between 2d and 3d modes. Not that it's really necessary.

# ¿ Jan 31, 2020 23:53

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Len posted:

So if I'm understanding right the only way to finish Tockington is to actually beat the game and then you unlock the actual post game?

End game spoilers

You have to be Calasmos to unlock the final Tockington quests.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 18:32

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

DalaranJ posted:

Update on the dragon warrior randomizer. The worst part of this is definitely that Dragon Quest didn�t have a step count check. It is difficult to describe how frustrating it is trying to explore and hitting four encounters in a row, half of which will murder you in one shot and half of which are trivial.

From what I watched, that's part of the challenge. Oh it's a Red Slime... with Dragonlord breath. Yay.

# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 20:21

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

bbcisdabomb posted:

So the final (I hope, it's the one after Tickington) superboss in DQXI wiped the floor with my level 75 party.

Does the bonus for Hallelujah count for all enemies in a combat, or just for enemies currently in combat? I was thinking I could use that then the summon metal monsters pep, would that work?

It works for the whole combat. In fact, the recommended setup is Hallelujah then Electro Light. At level 75 you should be summoning a King and two Liquids so it should only take 3-5 battles to get to 99.

Save before doing it however because you could get killer bots instead and I'd just reset when that happens.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2020 22:58

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

History Comes Inside! posted:

You'll need to play smart at 99 too because that boss basically just can't be brute forced.

I'd imagine most people beat it with Yggdragon's Blessing spam.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2020 23:42

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Bardeh posted:

I started VIII on the 3DS recently, and am about 3.5 hours in. I did the waterfall dungeon and the tower dungeon so far. I think both characters are around level 11. I have a few questions:

When does the combat get a bit more involved? I levelled swords on the main character, but the first ability he gets does more damage against dragons...and I'm just fighting slimes and bugs and poo poo, why do I need a dragon killing ability so early in the game? So it's literally just auto attacking and healing and that's fine for now, but I hope it gets a bit more interesting soon.

Is there a recommend way to spend my skill points? I did swords for the MC and Clubs for Yangus because those were the weapons they had and it seemed to make sense.

If I avoid most of the trash fights as I run around, will I be underlevelled? Obviously I'm fighting some stuff, but I'm not going out of my way to grind. The first two dungeons have been relatively painless, but I'm wondering if it'll start to ramp up if I avoid too many fights.

You'll start to get more party members soon, just keep going and then it will get more complex.

You get 350 skill points in total through level ups without using Skill Seeds, so you can get 3 skills to 100 and another halfway.

My suggestions for Hero and Yangus: Hero - Swords 100, Spears 59, Courage 100, Fisticuffs 11. This is only 270, you can put the other 80 wherever you want. Spears 59 is very important for Lightning Thrust for Metal Farming. 11 for Fisticuffs gives you Defending Champion which is a stronger defense skill which is nice if you need to tank a hit. Swords and Courage are his best skill trees IMO.

Yangus: Axes 100, Scythes 100, Humanity 82, Clubs rest of points. Axes and Scythes are his best weapons. Humanity up to 82 gets you Kerplunk, which is great for late game, plus he gets other good spells like Heal, Midheal and Kabuff. Get Axes up quick for Hatchet Man and then Executioner for Metal Farming.

As for farming, if you find a boss to be too hard, just grind a bit for a couple of levels and you should be fine. Eventually you'll be able to grind of Metal Slimes/Liquid Metals/King Metals and since the 3ds version allows you to see enemies and also spawn and despawn them, it's much easier to metal grind on the 3ds version. Once you find Metals to grind, feel free using Thunder/Lightning Thrust and Hatchet Man/Executioner.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2020 00:52

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Bardeh posted:

I got Jessica, and did a little lol as she changed clothes to an outfit with her boobs flapping everywhere as soon as she joined the party.

Don't you worry, the outfits only get sexier.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2020 00:19

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Generally when playing strong monsters, you want better offense than defense since the enemies will chunk your health away pretty quickly. So I prefer Greatswords over Swords. Better to have them completely dead than taking slightly less damage at first but having the enemy last 2-3 more turns.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2020 20:16

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Countblanc posted:

is there a good guide for stuff like this? i did a bit of googling and found a few wikis but they seemed to just be more general game feature overviews than any real deep mechanical stuff. i went ahead and downloaded the Switch demo to see if the loading times bother me and I want to try Stronger Monsters, but i'd like a bit more info on the game's systems to check if needed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/179347-dragon-quest-xi-echoes-of-an-elusive-age/76888622

Lots of details, but spoilers are in there.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2020 22:12

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Waltzing Along posted:

I've been making every recipe as I find them. Even if I don't have the mats. I just spend the gold to buy what is missing. So far I haven't seen an item that was more than a small upgrade over what I am making. Am I screwing up by wasting gold when I could just farm the items? It seems that farming gold is easier, though slower for the pricier stuff.

Eventually you'll be able to farm gold very easily so don't worry about it too much. Everything respawns so you can eventually get the materials again. Keep in mind that you can't buy every material. Some materials cannot be bought and must be found.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2020 04:50

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RareAcumen posted:

You should've just gone to Any Town and showed them that they reuse NPCs a lot.

Dah-Vey is special with his pink mask!

# ¿ Apr 29, 2020 21:09

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Waltzing Along posted:

I'm 99 and at the trials now. I have one open tickington quest and one left to find. Getting close. 90 hours now.

I got stuck at the final final final optional boss with Stronger Monsters on. After a certain point it just becomes Yggdragon's Blessing/Magic Burst/Mega Magic Burst cheese.

# ¿ May 10, 2020 05:00

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Waltzing Along posted:

Well, now that 1, 2, 3 and 11 are done, I'm gonna move on to 4. I wonder if I can get through all 10 this year. I doubt it but a few more seems very doable.

What version?

# ¿ May 14, 2020 05:23

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

whydirt posted:

Is it just me or is agility not super important in DQ11, at least compared to the older titles? It used to matter a lot because you had to input everyone's command at once at the top of the round and then their agility would determine the order of execution. But now everyone has one action per turn and each character immediately executes their command when their turn arrives. Not to mention that agility no longer directly impacts your physical defense.

Similarly, deftness is supposed to increase crit rate, but I can't really see a big difference from the early to late game from it.

It's the cover from their ~~Christian~~ earth spirit rock band album.

According to guides, Agility affects turn order and evasion. You can see the turn order with Meteorite Bracers as with a couple of those on you can get in turns before many bosses and even some metal slimes.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2020 23:26

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OhFunny posted:

Why am I doing the photo side quest in DQVIII? I told myself I wouldn't, but after 27 hours of main story progression I've halted and am now doing it. Why brain... Why?

You do get some quality items from doing the quest.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2020 04:14

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Even though I have no plans on buying it since I have the regular version on Steam and S version on Switch, I hope the Steam version has an upgrade path for those who bought the regular version.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 18:30

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Lunchmeat Larry posted:

Hahaha

Yep, found out that this isn't happening.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2020 15:06

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 02:07

Kuros: Sep 13, 2010; Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

ToxicAcne posted:

I've always been a Final Fantasy guy growing up and want to get into Dragon Quest. I played DQ9 ages ago when it came out but otherwise have no experience with the series. I want to wait for the special edition of DQ11 to come out for PC. What's a good DQ to start out with. I've heard DQ8 is one of the best ones but the 3ds version looks kinda janky?

DQ8 3DS is great, more features equals more fun!

Also look into the DS and Mobile ports for the older games.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2020 21:16

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