politically-loaded maps: sputtering flemishly

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My Imaginary GF posted:

I took a History of Nationalistic Thought in undergrad, I'll see if I can find my old syllabus later. If you pm'd me your email address, I could forward the reading list to you.

I'm taking one now!

Imagined Communities, Benedict Anderson
Nationalism, Anthony D. Smith and John Hutchinson
Nations and Nationalism since 1780, E.J. Hobsbawm

# ¿ Aug 25, 2014 02:21

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 00:50

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Mustang posted:

How did Kevin become such an unpopular name in Europe? In the US it's a completely average name, not super popular but not uncommon or weird either.

edit: I can't think of any names in the US anyone actually dislikes that much

Anything ending in -ayden, and possibly -eegan. It's a more modern distinction but it's definitely the same signifier.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2014 21:07

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Jerry Cotton posted:

Well there's a box labeled "does not matter much"

Surprising, for a whole continent.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2015 16:50

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DrSunshine posted:

Could God create a language so complex not even He could speak it?

Depends on if you consider Finnish the devil's work.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 18:42

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I think Hungary was really more than we expected, guys.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2016 04:14

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HookShot posted:

AdiEU and Quitaly are the best. Also Espanope.

"Full"

# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 07:28

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm the Marca Nova Jersica.

New Jersey not Rome area, 0/10

# ¿ Feb 16, 2017 04:16

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Quorum posted:

Otherwise noteworthy is that you can see Lynchburg, VA and its surrounding county on the Hacksaw Ridge map because it's about a hometown hero.

This is like Moonlight where it's pretty much just a big city movie except for Florida, where it's popular because it's set in Florida.

There's absolutely a cultural/demographic element to these maps but drat if the obvious lesson isn't "people like to see where they live in a movie, so the surefire way to gross trillions domestically is to make sure your movie explicitly visits every single county in the US with enough movie theaters"

# ¿ Mar 26, 2017 17:16

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Ciudad Demexzcd.

# ¿ Apr 2, 2017 05:05

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The stray KOSOVO JE SERBIJA at the top really makes it

# ¿ May 6, 2017 21:48

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Soviet Commubot posted:

Missing "Full"

# ¿ Sep 11, 2017 00:59

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There was definitely a gimmick poster somewhere in D&D at one point whose whole thing was arguing that east-west was a bigger cultural divide in the US than north-south and all policy must flow from this

# ¿ Jul 21, 2019 16:39

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dublish posted:

The map gets better and better the more I look at it.

THE OWOMAN EMPIRE

# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 06:03

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Kobal2 posted:

That's cool, thanks for the larnin' ! I knew about their extensive farming (I remember having to sketch a hog "farm" that might as well have been a giant hangar owned by some modern agrobusiness) ; but I figured they just threw infinite slaves at most production/material sourcing issues.

I mean they did, they just had the slaves operate those factories. Being simple machines and pre-steam or electric means that the work was extremely dangerous and exhausting

# ¿ Jan 4, 2020 02:28

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Bro Dad posted:

behold

What the gently caress is the source of this, reverse image search gives nothing and searching the country names gives nothing. I need to know what produced this madness, especially if it isn't just importing saves down the line of paradox games

# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 20:24

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SlothfulCobra posted:

I think American porn gets weirdly into ethnic terms, as if there's some significant difference of appearance between Cuban girls and Puerto Rican girls.

I'm pretty sure this is often search engine optimization rather than any actual indicator of the content, because one of the biggest search terms in any given country or region will usually be the name of that country

# ¿ Apr 9, 2020 04:44

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Craptacular posted:

So someone compare the differences between German and Swiss-German in a way that I as a non-German speaker can understand. Is it more like the difference between American English and Scots, or more like the difference between American English and Tok Pisin?

FWIW as a second-language (academic) German speaker the written example on the last page was about 60/40 in favor of comprehensible

# ¿ May 27, 2020 22:16

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VictualSquid posted:

Now do it again while remembering that Britain has land borders with turkey and spain. And also French new guinea exists.

This is like one of those medieval maps that considered the known world from a bird's eye view. Even has Jerusalem towards the center with east facing up

# ¿ Jun 7, 2020 04:28

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System Metternich posted:

I love this kind of maps and to see where I would roughly live then. I can�t be 100% sure but it might be Decatur county in NW Kansas, a place with less than 3,000 people that�s 98% white, voted for Trump with 80+% and is named after a 19th century navy hero who died after getting his dick shot off in a duel, even though the county is more than a thousand kilometres away from the nearest ocean. I sense that this is not the best place to be

Conversely, I'm on the northeast bit of Ukraine's Russian border

# ¿ Jun 16, 2020 07:52

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HardDiskD posted:

Canada should have Michigan, the entire West Coast and NYC, maybe the DC as well

Why stop at Michigan? Fork over all of the north midwest from Wisconsin to Chicago. Hell, undo the entire Louisiana Purchase so that we can all have TWO Francophone communities!

# ¿ Sep 12, 2020 23:03

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The fact that Sweden is also in the 'most prepared' group says everything really

# ¿ Oct 24, 2020 20:06

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Somewhat surprised Inca Kola doesn't win out in Peru either

oh coke just owns that everywhere BUT peru

# ¿ Nov 2, 2020 00:50

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Lobster God posted:

https://twitter.com/dabitch/status/1325560645459214336?s=19

What does "to clarify the pronunciation" mean for Algeria

# ¿ Nov 9, 2020 00:43

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"we have italy at home"

Italy at home:

# ¿ Jan 19, 2021 19:00

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It's definitely the map equivalent of one of these

# ¿ May 31, 2022 18:26

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Real mystery of the map to me are the guys who like Emirati cuisine but do not care for Saudi and vice versa

Local rivalries often are much stronger sentiments than xenophobia

# ¿ Jul 1, 2022 21:15

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Pure WASP Calvinist Juche gave me a smile because it could describe a hell of a lot more than just maine

# ¿ Aug 24, 2022 06:12

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"the babylon whoredom of antwerp" is sadly too long for a username

# ¿ Oct 31, 2022 00:25

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Saladman posted:

Such a North American post, lol. Like 90% of people living in cities in Europe live in places that look exactly like that. Including non-immigrants. Europe in general has an absolute poo poo ton more graffiti than the US, so the very small amount of graffiti in that photo isn't really meaningful either.

I actually had the exact opposite reaction as you: "are they too european to understand what projects actually look like? are things THAT pretty over there that this is what you count as urban decay?"

# ¿ Dec 2, 2022 00:46

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contrast:

europeans when encountering a new animal: "it must be from The Mysterious East"

americans when encountering a new animal: "weird dog. possibly a weird elk"

# ¿ Apr 9, 2023 02:31

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Randarkman posted:

Hell, you know, I'd take the Habsburgs back, just make them hereditary presidents of the European council and rename that to "Emperor".

have you seen the current habsburg post on twitter? terrible choice

# ¿ Jun 30, 2023 16:08

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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Explain Alexander the Great then

you mean alexander the great, the famous submarine enthusiast? what is there to explain? just as amphibious as the rest of them

# ¿ Jul 22, 2023 07:15

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i'd honestly buy it more if they declared themselves southern, at least there's something to go on there with 'we still kinda speak latin like spain and italy'

# ¿ Jul 24, 2023 08:30

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i refuse to believe it

# ¿ Aug 12, 2023 05:39

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Vivian Darkbloom posted:

"A Land for the Jews" proposed by an American Jew around 1938. Some of these places would be decent to live while others would be unbearable. As you can see, the author opposed the Zionist program of building a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Herzl's Uganda proposal overlaps a little with territory 8. Territory 1 expands on the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, which was established in 1934 but never attracted much migration.

According to some blog, not much is known about the author, Joseph Otmar Hefter. This pamphlet is supposed to be from 1938 and as you can see, he opposed Zionist efforts to build a Jewish state in Palestine.

"Only the broadest outlines of Joseph Otmar Hefter�s life can be described with any certainty. He was born at the end of the nineteenth century in Austro-Hungary, emigrated to the U.S. and spent the last decades of his life in Mexico, working as a graphic designer. A documentary about Hefter, titled Faktories und Felder and produced for the aforementioned 2011 Israeli exhibition, eventually had to change course and turn into a speculative biography, for lack of hard evidence."

you should read the yiddish policeman's union if you haven't already; a partially-in-yiddish noir novel in an alternate 50s where the jewish state in alaska came to be

# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 06:41

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portugal is... central europe?

# ¿ Oct 16, 2023 05:24

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BonHair posted:

New York has also historically had a lot of growth from outsiders and still managed a good local identity or five. It's also about the kind of immigrants you get, and I think suburbanites and rich old people are probably the least likely to actually interact with the existing residents, so Florida is uniquely bad for getting a unified identity not based on guys doing meth. Compare to people stepping off the boat in New York with nothing, they kinda have to interact to find work and company and so forth. Also it's a city and not a car based hellscape.

new yorkers are united in thinking new york is the most unique and special place in the whole world and talking up the stuff they have that every other metropolis also has

# ¿ Nov 1, 2023 21:47

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SlothfulCobra posted:

The fact that there are still surviving regional culture differences within the city is less because of the mythologized idea of the immigrants being poor and coming over with nothing (most immigrants tend to be middle class, especially in those days), but because since they were immigrants from abroad instead of from across America, building up your own little enclaves of your own people that can all speak the same language instead of having to try using English. This does also happen to a degree across the country, but I'm not really sure of the mechanics of forming like an immigrant colony that far from their point of entry to the country.

chicago neighborhoods today frequently have a distinct ethnic identity, it's much closer to the old style early 20th century patchwork of immigrants still. some of them--the polish neighborhoods for example--have been how they are for multiple generations through a deliberate effort to preserve the place as somewhere for polish speakers. others are long-standing but not generations old. some, like chinatown, have moved since their initial creation but also expanded and changed in economic character even as they remained ethnically the same. chicago's chinatown today is still majority chinese, and has expanded into what were formerly irish neighborhoods that long since assimilated. but most of the chinese people there have roots in the mainland rather than taiwan, a big change from its mid-century self.

i bet people have done dissertations on this, how many new immigrants you need in a city for a certain neighborhood to maintain a separate identity

# ¿ Nov 1, 2023 22:44

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

New Yorkers : Americans
Americans: Everyone else

the inverse of this applies to texas. texans are to the rest of the US how the US is seen from outside

# ¿ Nov 1, 2023 22:47

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# ¿ May 18, 2024 00:50

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Last time I had a stoned geographic time I was watching TV and trying to figure out what the best world capital would be, based solely on location. I believe I settled on Dakar, which in hindsight seems a little Atlantic Ocean focused.

Gundam puts the political capital in Dakar and military headquarters in the Amazon because of geographical centrality and the need to be on the equator to reach space easier

# ¿ Nov 30, 2023 22:47

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