Final Fantasy XI: Stockholm Syndrome and a bad case of Crabs

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DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

I quit before WotG came out and I have an arbitrarily specific question! Back in the day I had BLM75 and a full set of HQ elemental staves. Given that they were +15% damage and also randomly +accuracy... how the hell did SE ever actually replace those? Sure, numbers go up as they raise the cap to 99, but weapon damage didn't factor into spells and a flat percentage buff is a difficult bonus to outperform. Did they add other things with better percentage buffs? Bite the bullet and remove the staves? Rework the spell damage formula? Add enough other gear with the same +potency buff that the staves were outclassed by better options?

I'm just super curious because this thread was right above the XIV thread which I actually read because I play that game and I got all nostalgic for my Aquilo's Staff and I'm the kind of nerd who thinks real hard about formulas :shobon:

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 19:08

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:45

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Paladine_PSoT posted:

To directly answer the question, they made two of these:
http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Chatoyant_Staff

That's the HQ version, there's an NQ version as well. You craft them by synergizing all 8 of the original nq or hq, and they have the properties of all 8 except for the damage reduction on earth staff. It's the inventory reducer pre-119 mages were clamboring for before ilvl gear totally outclassed it.

God drat yes that would have freed up seven precious inventory slots. Well, actually six, what kind of idiot carried around a Light Staff on BLM for everyday use, but you know what I mean.

(also, stat vomit makes a lot of sense, thanks for the explanation!)

# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 06:35

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Dear FFXI thread, I quit back in like 2006 and I'm only here to ask if XI mobile is real, and if so, will it be single player plus the trust NPCs I've heard about, cause dear god would I ever play that.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 01:49

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CodfishCartographer posted:

I believe it's been said it'll be a different game than FFXI proper, I believe, but no idea if it'll be single player or what.

I can dream. Game looks gorgeous, and I'd love to pay full price for a non-MMO XI. But maybe that's just the nostalgia talking.

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 17:29

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CodfishCartographer posted:

Honestly, current-day FFXI is non-MMO XI. You can play through every storyline solo fairly easily with any job, then just stop before doing any endgame poo poo that requires multiple people. The content will be very easy at max level, but it's fairly simple to difficulty-adjust by doing it at a low level, then if it's too hard solo just go spend a few minutes to grind out 5-10 levels and return. You can even ignore all the new fast travel options for the oldschool run-everywhere feel!

...god, why would I ever do that?!

I would love to dust off my old account, and get some trust NPCs, and take BLM haha just kidding I would switch to BLU, gently caress my 14-year-old BLM75 from what I know about the new meta. A mobile port would presumably give you the fast travel options out of the gate and streamline item grinds a little, but the main attraction is not paying monthly honestly. I'd get sucked into the time sink either way.

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jul 7, 2020

# ¿ Jul 7, 2020 20:53

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

Sigh, it was way easier to recover my account than anticipated. How do I get onto the right server with whatever transfer-player benefits matter? This Gold World Pass thing?

e: also what's the best way to get a key these days? 'cause I only have XI/RotZ/CoP/ToAU
e2: oh and is it still faster to download all the files via a torrent rather than use the official SE launcher to update a fresh install, or is that not the case now that PlayOnline is dead (rest in piss)
e3: and what's the goon LS? no further questions I promise

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jul 9, 2020

# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 02:39

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frodnonnag posted:

if you're bringing a character from one server to another you pay for a transfer in your SE account. if it's a new character get a gold world pass.

Bringing my char over, being level 75 looks like it'll save a bunch of time even if that time is "only" some leveling and free RoE progress and some mobility options and some storylines. I guess I did have RotZ/CoP cleared if I'm recalling correctly.

e:

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jul 9, 2020

# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 02:45

DACK FAYDEN: Feb 25, 2013; Bear Witness

But I have all kinds of teleport options available now!

(plus it's my lil taru from 2007 how could I not)

What's the goon LS?

# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 10:45

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SerCypher posted:

Imagine moving to a new town in Vanadiel. Trying to find a store and all your neighbors just give you cryptic hints. And if you alt tab to look at a town directory you die.

this is the intended 2002-era experience but the last sentence still slayed me

# ¿ Feb 24, 2021 19:06

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Kithyen posted:

Transferred my newer character over to Asura. I'm assuming we no longer have a linkshell anymore. Going thru the WoTG mission right now and although I'm enjoy the storylines so far, holy mother of gently caress are they tedious as gently caress. I can see why a lot of people didn't enjoy these on top of them being released in chunks.

we do have one but it's dead a.f. - the discord on the other hand is hopping!

also re: sea being the most gorgeous, they released animated Zoom meeting backgrounds and one of them is al'taieu and it's gorgeous, if it wouldn't out me as a nerd I'd be there in a heartbeat

# ¿ Mar 5, 2021 18:06

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NovaLion posted:

I've finally been convinced to play this for the first time. Are any of the jobs generally more solo-friendly?

In 2021 you can solo with anything because there's an entire system to summon a party of NPCs who, while braindead, are more than good enough for almost all the content.

(that said, Red Mage owns, though the spells are expensive, Blue Mage is great but the spells are a pain to learn, something like Warrior just poops out damage with lots of survivability, those are the three that come to mind first)

# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:23

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WarMECH posted:

Would love to see an implementation of the FFXIV controller hotbar in this game.

Does the xivbar addon do what you want?

# ¿ May 25, 2021 13:01

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kirbysuperstar posted:

barfiller, enemybar, dressup (for blinkmenot), findall, gearswap, giltracker, invtracker, battlemod, myhome, shortcuts, spellbook, superwarp, tparty, xivbar, ffxidb and either xivcrossbar or xivhotbar are what I go for as a baseline and most all of that is in the windower repository

This is missing treasury which is essential!

also autoRA for ranged classes, and qol stuff like currencies, fastcs, mountmuzzle (oh my god that music), and I really like xicamera but it does make your game crash instead of exiting properly which is fine by me

# ¿ Aug 4, 2021 10:55

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Bregor posted:

Isn�t RNG just another SB spam job still? lol

Now it's more of a "SB spam, but" from the way I understand - with Hover Shot going you end up at something ridiculous on your ranged attacks, I think it's +400 racc +100% damage or something stupid like that? - so there are plenty of situations where you end up dancing around with a bow even if you are, in general, Yet Another Savage Blade Class.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 20:07

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CodfishCartographer posted:

As for conquest: there's a system in all areas from the original release and first two expansions called Conquest. Whenever a player kills an enemy in an area, they earn influence for their nation in that area's region - each region contains usually 3-5 areas.

no no no

...Whenever a player kills an enemy in an area, with the Signet buff on, they earn influence for their nation in that area's region.

So if you don't get Signet from the gate guards (which you should btw because you get some tiny bonuses - although really it's just bonus acc/eva against a lower-level-than-you monster you're engaged with) you don't help conquest at all.

This system mattered in 2004! You could unlock regional teleports to outposts based entirely on who controlled them and keep those teleports forever! I have the coveted "teleport right outside Bastok" from one week when Windurst controlled Gustaberg back in 2005. I have not used it more than once since coming back last year because why would you when HP teleports exist?

But now it doesn't matter, except to randomly screw you out of stuff like that. Get to 20, go to another nation via airship, and buy it there - you don't have to be a citizen of the nation in question! Just make sure they're not in last place (Conquest is under uh, Regional Status or something, bottom of the first half of the main menu, it's a giant map)

# ¿ Sep 1, 2021 17:19

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I came back to XI specifically to try BLU and had an absolute ball!

...then ended up full-time RDM because you had just as many tricks, except you did them better. Crocea Mors is one hell of a weapon and makes your enspells hit like a truck and you can land enfeebles on anything, including stuff immune to your goddamn enfeebles (thanks, immunobreak mechanic), so uh, your mileage may vary.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2021 01:38

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Systematic System posted:

Edit: Wait, they did change something but only at high-levels. They added one more /check level "Extremely Easy Prey" to make it easier for players to do Magian trials even at max level. So usually stuff that is 7 levels below you stops aggro'ing but once you get past 75 it changes to 20 levels below stops aggro'ing.

oh, is that why they added it?

I thought the purpose was to keep things that aggroed at 75 aggroing to 99 :shobon:

# ¿ Sep 7, 2021 14:06

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Systematic System posted:

(which was pretty funny since you could be a newbie wandering through a level 5 zone and bam, open the wrong door and there's a level 90 monster there)

which is worse, trying to walk through Dangruf Wadi or Inner Horutoto Ruins

(probably wadi)

# ¿ Sep 8, 2021 12:55

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FFXIV Porn posted:

the sale encouraged me to try ff11 since it's been a big empty spot in my final fantasy experience; the only one i've never touched.

username absolutely makes post :eyepop:

# ¿ Dec 19, 2021 23:04

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Schir posted:

walking into a zone for the third time and seeing an expansion start for no reason is hilarious
who's shantotto? i don't know but apparently i've been drafted into her army but also i can just get her as a trust like there's not this whole world domination thing happening on the side

Shantotto's in Dissidia so I guess it's like nonzero that a person would have heard of her... but beyond that yeah you won't know who she is until you meet her in missions which doesn't happen early if you don't pick Windurst

(also there are three distinct trusts of her, I guess she is actually popular?)

# ¿ Dec 20, 2021 03:22

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Glagha posted:

I started playing FFXI again for the first time since it came out and now I'm out killing leeches for hours trying to get a carbuncle's ruby how's everyone else's day

the drop rate on ruby is still poo poo, but if you've got a job that you can level off the Bloodsuckers in Bostanieux Oubliette you can pull double duty because they're a pretty ok exp spot

this probably doesn't help but I mean, if it does, yay

# ¿ Jan 12, 2022 19:17

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Agents are GO! posted:

So I just purchased this game. I played for like 15 months back in 2004, so I remember jack and poo poo. Is there still a Goon Linkshell?

Not one that anyone talks in anymore - there's the discord linked in the first post and that's it.

# ¿ May 16, 2022 02:27

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sexpig by night posted:

The wiki guide kinda makes it sound like RMT hell but it also sounds like they're being a bit dramatic.

spicyryan has an axe to grind against literally every human being that isn't him

(yell chat is loving full of the same four RMT over and over but that's the price you pay for a functioning Auction House and people to do stuff with)

# ¿ May 22, 2022 13:28

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Vitamean posted:

I went around exploring Bostaunieux Oubliette last night, which is something I'd never done even when i was actively subbed, and even if it is just a dinky sewer it was cool going to parts of the map I'd never set foot in before.

Bostanieux is loving sick and I'm sad that there's never any reason to poke around in the sewer with gross leeches and actual vampires. I like that zone way too much for just being a hallway made of stone.

(it's also actually pretty good for leveling at two distinct brackets, off entrance bats and then again off the leeches near the end, but that's just like, whatever)

# ¿ May 23, 2022 17:02

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Badger of Basra posted:

Am I willing to reup my sub for one month to get shantotto 2? Decisions�

free login campaign is ongoing until may 31st

so you just have to reinstall...

# ¿ May 24, 2022 20:59

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Dryzen posted:

If the regular map is a struggle a minimap plug-in will probably help a lot more.

ffxidb is the one everyone likes, I believe.

# ¿ May 28, 2022 12:14

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Vitamean posted:

if I hit the spending cap on accolades will it prevent me from upgrading gear for the rest of the week

inquiring minds wish to know

fairly certain no, the spending cap is just a cap on spending to receive items, but not 100%

# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 15:47

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Glagha posted:

Can't you get it from a Unity fight now? Is it even that hard to get anymore?

Sovereign Behemoth is still a pain in the dick in 2022 and the drop rate is way lower from it, it's a flat 5% from King Behemoth so the best way to do it really is to just buy shanks from people

# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 17:52

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frodnonnag posted:

Roe/unity points to shields to gil is the easy lowbie answer. Not much else.

no, unity points go to prize powders (same 1:10 gil ratio as acheron shields)

# ¿ Mar 30, 2023 15:07

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CodfishCartographer posted:

If you're ready to start breaking into lv 99 content, I recommend this guide for more detailed info on the massive amount of content. The quickstart guide isn't fantastic at explaining the details of content, and also doesn't give you a good idea of what order you can / should tackle things in.

it's funny cause you wrote the guide

# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 06:35

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CodfishCartographer posted:

A couple decent ones for low-level players, yeah. Lots of people use Sparks of Eminence to buy Acheron Shields (under the "Equipment (Lv.71 - 98)" tab) and sell those to vendors. You can only spend a maximum of 100,000 sparks each week (resetting on Sundays) so you shouldn't dump ALL your sparks on them since you'll obviously need them for other gear, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to pump n dump a few of them to get enough gil function. You can do a similar thing with Unity Accolades to buy an item called Prize Powder, which basically only exist to be sold to NPCs for gil.

fun fact, you don't have to buy the Shields specifically, literally every item has the same Sparks-to-Gil ratio of about 1-10ish, it's actually how gil prices are determined - Shields are just the highest vendor price item so it takes the fewest transactions to cap

also we wrote a new player guide that only started off as a joke stab at the one on BG Wiki that might be worth reading, it's a giant wall of text but I did my best to include everything I could, please disregard all the [someone fill this in] stuff :P

# ¿ Nov 5, 2023 06:10

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HKR posted:

There are jobs that have sneak/invis as spells and jobs that have them as abilities. Dancer is a good sub for it's sneak and invis jig. If you don't have any of those unlocked yet, it takes about only a bit to level them. If you have spare gil, sneak and invis potions also work, but you're essentially throwing money away every time you get lost.

If you don't have enough spare gil for silent oil and prism powder, either you aren't burning your sparks every week (Acheron Shields are fastest but items all have the same sparks:gil ratio at about 1:9.8) or you should hit up a goon if you're on Asura because we have gil to spare!

# ¿ Nov 21, 2023 12:51

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Verbose posted:

When does the week reset? And how many sparks can you spend per week

And since nobody said it yet, week resets Sunday morning. JP midnight I think, but I actually have forgotten.

(the Unity Accolade version of the sink is Prize Powders, which you have to buy in stacks of 99 but are also 1 accolade:10 gil for a max of 99999 spent for 1m gil a week as well - it does add up even if you're not hitting cap every week!)

# ¿ Nov 22, 2023 06:20

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The community stream Twitch chat being absolutely full of people talking about private servers probably did not help, although obviously I doubt a NA community stream is the driving factor.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2023 20:17

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No idea why you'd ever go anywhere else, Asura has mercs to get content cleared without relying on randos and also randos to get content run without relying on mercs.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2023 12:59

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Frog Act posted:

ed: wow they must get a lot of those cus they fixed that poo poo instantly. I guess I'll log back in and see how I feel about my level 99 RDM. I wanted to get BRD to 99, which has been an aspiration of mine since I was 13

personal testimony: my account was inactive from 2006 to 2020 and it literally had my father's name on it somehow (and I have no idea why)

took exactly one support ticket + one email to get that resolved and me back in, they are accustomed to wanting people to give them money for FFXI

# ¿ Jan 20, 2024 22:24

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or if you're a visual learner:

stole this image from another goon, thanks Arc Impulse!

edited for future searchability:
this image is how you log in to playonline.
pol login. square enix password playonline password man I don't even know what else people would look for

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 28, 2024

# ¿ Jan 21, 2024 04:03

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 21:45

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biceps crimes posted:

I'm jumping in after spending a few hours installing over the weekend. What server do goons play on? Should I just solo somewhere random and transfer later when I get to the point where you'd actually play with people?

Asura is the server that basically all of NA is on - including most goons, because the ones that weren't ended up biting the bullet and transferring over. Transferring costs IRL cash and goons can get you a password to just start on Asura for functionally-free (1000 gil, aka "0.01% of one of the weekly income streams") so I'd vote for that

someone get this goon a Gold World Pass!

also we're all in the discord in the first post and there's a few guides kicking around somewhere - here's the one we collectively wrote for instance

# ¿ Jan 22, 2024 14:18

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