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I picked this game up a while ago and just started playing. Regarding stealing tech points, Is that something you do early game, cause every time I try everything is grayed out and it won't let me stick him anywhere. Or do I just click Scheme, stick my spymaster in my capital and leave him there forever. EDIT: Starting in Ireland 1066 that is.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2015 01:02 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:30 |
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Bottom right corner of the declare war window. You can click on it to show the breakdown of votes. Green check means the council agrees, red x means its going against the council. As an aside, started my first Ironman game in Ireland. Started a war at like age 66 for Dublinn so I could make the Kingdom of Ireland. Just after I start, my leader becomes infirm. He thankfully survives to the end of the war so I don't burn my claim. He's now 71 and still alive. That hunting dog he has must be the only thing he's living for at this point. EDIT: Finally died at the age of 74. I mean, I appreciate the War Chest I now have, but for fucks sake, i went through like 2 heirs dying before he did. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 26, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 26, 2016 00:20 |
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bonds0097 posted:Just played my first real game of CK2. Started as the King of Mumu with an ambition to unite Ireland. Things were going swimmingly and I had 4 counties. Then my character died and the eldest inherited the kingdom/duchy but immediately the council demanded more power and then my stupid half brother revolted and usurped the throne. Welcome to CK2. Hopefully he's not matrilineally married so you can start racking up the body count to get the duchy back.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2016 11:54 |
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quote:Owners of <Secret DLC> may ask their vassals to return to gavelkind succession, or force them to via a favor. This sounds awful. Mind you I dont have that much experience in this game (like 30ish hours so basically nothing compared to yall), but favors are way too easy to get and changing inheritance laws seems way too strong a benefit. Unless the AI isn't allowed to do it to you. And that way seems hella dumb. Objective 1 for me is going to a sane inheritance and out of gavelkind so I dont have to deal with it anymore.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2016 21:24 |
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Dareon posted:It's to deal with uppity superdukes. You know, the ones that constantly conquer their way out of your borders and wind up with more men than you. You'd only see it fired in your direction if you were playing a vassal, and the AI seems rather more intent on making you happy than punishing your ambition. I read that the opposite direction. Your vassal can make their liege go Gavelkind. Yea, its way less awful when read correctly.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2016 03:21 |
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:Just to close this off after Adelaide and her son took over the newly independent Duchy of Valois I got this special being as my next heir: I'm betting his doctor chops his balls off to cure a cold before any heirs are born.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2016 21:51 |
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Toadsniff posted:Carousing is only micro-managey when you get greedy and try to invite like 10+ people. Just stick to a few who will join and increase your chances of befriending people you actually care about. I usually just invite my council or a couple of faction members if people are faction happy. In general, I usually hop to Carousing if a civil war is not inevitable once a new ruler takes charge. +3 (or +5 diplomacy if I can get game master) and some friends is always good start to a new reign. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Dec 18, 2016 |
# ¿ Dec 18, 2016 13:46 |
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Listen man, I know he's your Steward, but trust me, I'm doing you a favor here. All I want is a Strong son-in-law in exchange for your Steward not actively hurting your reign.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 02:13 |
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Zero One posted:LOL. He's got 0 stewardship skill too. Literally anyone else would be a better replacement. It actually gets better, I was favored in the election to the HRE. I figured my 40 year old Emperor son-in-law would outlive me, so I didn't even think of it at the time of posting. Six Months later, I became Emperor of the HRE. Of course, actually getting elected hosed me over, since I was about a year away from getting Bohemia Primogeniture instead of Seniority, so I have to hope and pray my 65 year old dude makes it another 5 years so I can secure my succession and I don't end up a dirt farmer. Which also means I'm probably done as once I hit King/Emperor I usually end up just quitting due to not really being a paint the map guy. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 4, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 03:34 |
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As hilarious of a mental image as it is, I do kinda wish you could get a chance at Craven for doing the walk off the boat, become a Crusader, and turn around on the boat. Or maybe just taking a spill and eating dirt as you attempt to get on the boat for a prestige hit.
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 21:41 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:Spain in 1066 is a pretty good start for absolute beginners. The Christian states are decently strong but not so large that they're hard to govern. You're surrounded by kingdoms run by your relatives so claims and alliances are pretty easy to come by and there is a mass of small Muslim states in Andalusia for you to gobble up one by one Spain is fun. My last game I killed my brother to inherit his land, told the Pope to gently caress off and got excommunicated, hired a doctor who gave me an infection, and then died of an infection childless so the last brother was given a basically united Christian Spain in about the span of 1 year. Sure, that never really happens every time, but it was quite fun. I guess I usually have my court chaplain boost the Pope opinion high enough I don't have to worry about him excommunicating me over free investiture, so seeing him excommuncate me super fast was a shock.
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# ¿ May 8, 2017 17:06 |
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buglord posted:I'm making baby steps into this game, but it seems like my vassals, wife, and court/kingdom helpers are all intent on acting like gossiping 7th graders. My wife is pissed at me because she doesn't like one *very* competent administrator I have; I told her to piss off because we're going to have to make some concessions if we wanna get to be emperor. Then my court dudes are having little piss fights, and then take things very personally when they force me into making a choice. Serious Advice: If their unlanded and not your wife, you can tell them afterwards to get the gently caress out of your court. Real Advice: Lord Cyrahzax posted:If you haven't scooped out their eyes, scraped off their faces and then tossed them in the oubliette, then no
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# ¿ May 16, 2017 00:14 |
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Piell posted:Staying out of societies is bad advice because they don't really have a downside assuming you don't pick the evil one. The Hermetic Society, for example, can give you crazy amounts of boosts to learning. Its nice, but if you are getting overwhelmed, there's no reason to add on to that. I mean, deciding my depressed king should join satanists to do his best to curse the family that killed his gay son was fun, but no need to add more mechanics early on. Regarding technology: Don't worry about it too much while you are getting a handle on things. Legalism to level 3 is the only one you should really worry about, as it unlocks Primogeniture. You get points passively when a Duke or above, and you can have your spymaster steal technology for a random 50 point boost in one of the types. Stick your spymaster in Byzantine (or if you can't do that, one of the other major Kingdom capitals should have better tech than you). I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 26, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 26, 2017 13:06 |
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Der Kyhe posted:Exactly. As the first law change you should switch inheritance law to something that gives all your titles to one heir (I think in that start Seniority is only one available), since otherwise you would have to regain control of some/most provinces every time you switch a character. Tanistry should also be available . Basically the same thing as it tends towards older & other branches of the family, but at least there's a chance they'll choose some 0 year old child your wife just popped out when everyone else is dead except for your strong genius level 4 education son. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Jun 27, 2017 |
# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 11:19 |
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cock hero flux posted:So I've tried joining the Hermetics like 25 different times and I have literally never gotten a mission or ability to build a laboratory. I think its a option in the intrigue window. Or maybe I'm thinking about observatory, but I'm pretty sure it's there.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 04:01 |
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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:I feel like this is my problem with ck2 entirely right now. I'll get to be the emperor of half a continent, and at some point I'll have to stop and keep the empire from falling apart (vassal/demesne limits). At this point, the game becomes more about feasts and summer fairs than doing anything interesting. I think I've got four separate empire save files where I've just checked out mentally from a lack of interest or activity. I'm not a big paint the map guy, so It's one of the things I like about CK2. Sure, I've given up on a save file cause I somehow got voted to rule the HRE despite being in the middle of managing my own realm and spending zero effort trying to get elected beyond an initial gently caress it vote for myself, but going in with a clear objective, doing it, then moving on keeps me interested. I like dealing with Dukes and Counts and occasionally having to deal with an allied/rival King.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2017 12:02 |
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lurksion posted:Because the Pope almost never excommunicates anyone anymore, for probably like 2 or 3 years of patches. I played a 1066 start in Spain, the pope asked me to go to papal investiture about a month in, I told him to gently caress off. He then excommunicated me. The only time it's happened naturally to me. Made the start kind of fun, till I died of mysterious circumstances with no kids. Didn't matter since my dynasty had the rest of the Spanish thrones, but I tried to keep myself alive. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Oct 26, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 26, 2017 20:10 |
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quote:- Taught the AI that more loot means a province is a better target for looting gently caress, now I have to compete for my free stuff?
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2017 22:40 |
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New thread title right here CK2: Due to a misunderstanding, I've been chopping people's nuts off for 400 years
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2017 23:59 |
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Did they fix Secret Religious societies spreading like a virus? I'm wanting to start an Iron Man game in Tibet and I've had that option off for a while. Just wondering if the new patch took care of it.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2017 01:26 |
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HisMajestyBOB posted:I've coming back to CK2 after almost a year. What's the rundown on the new-ish expansions (the ones not listed in the outdated OP)? Reapers Due and Conclave I think are worth it. Both add content for no matter who you play as. Monks and Mystics is ok, it's lacking for certain religions. Having satan restore your dick after you cut it off to cure the common cold is fun. Jade Dragon is fun, but if you primarily play west of the Byzantines and never interact with the silk road it's not worth it. My one complaint about Monks and Jade Dragon is that it feels pay to win? It's not the right phrase, but the items you get from Hermetics and China can be super strong. Jade Dragon way more so.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2017 01:59 |
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Funky Valentine posted:Is there really any point to the Cultural techs besides Legalism and Tolerance? I mean I guess Majesty is alright if you really want to shave a few months off a new ruler penalty. I think they changed Imperial Administration to require Majesty now? At least it said that in my Tibet game.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2017 21:46 |
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pthighs posted:If I was to buy this in the Steam winter sale, what DLC is recommended vs. superflous? No CK3 talk. Paradox has one or two pieces of DLC left for the game though. Here's my list, some people will disagree here and there. If I get yelled at enough, I'll happily update it so at least there's an easy to point to post for this winter sale. Must Have:
No. You get no in-game content, its just e-books. Read the thread, there are plenty of short stories here. TL;DR The DLC you should own are: Way of Life, Conclave, Reaper's Due, The Old Gods. Those, plus the base game comes out to $33.95 USD while on sale. If you don't mind spending another $4.99 I would also pick up The Sword of Islam, which brings the grand total up to $38.94 USD. You'll have most of the leaders available to start as and have plenty of content to try out. EDIT: Swapped around Old Gods & Sons of Abraham. Added tl;dr section. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 24, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 24, 2017 14:57 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I would switch SoA and Old Gods but otherwise it's pretty good, though Charlie does add my fav pagans The more I think, the more you're right. Swapped them around. Gobblecoque posted:Good list. One tiny addendum I'd add is that Horse Lords add tributaries which can be very handy even if you're nowhere near the steppes. Use it to make other realms an effective vassal that you don't have to manage and pays 40% tax but goes away when your current ruler dies. Especially useful if there are nearby merchant republics. Added this blurb, I totally forgot this came with Horse Lords and wasn't just part of the patch. Most of the DLC comes with little helpful stuff like this, but asking people to "buy it all upfront" is a big investment when you are looking for sale prices.
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2017 20:30 |
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herr posted:So I've been reading an old tutorial LP which is definitely out of date, trying to get started with the base game in Ireland. I'm trying to do that whole medieval eugenics thing, and the guide suggests finding spouses with good hereditary traits, but I've only been able to see one listed ever and it was Harelip. Are Genius and Quick out of the game, or am I locked behind a DLC or something? Remember to use the person finder (Press period) and set to "Search All" and not just the marriage finder button next to the character portrait. The latter doesn't search as completely. Also, if you just started a game, there might not be any available women with those traits.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2017 12:31 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:What's wrong with Monks n' Mystics DLC? The society part of the DLC was a big letdown. Depending on religion, you might have access to like 1 or 2 reskinned societies. Hermetics are the real super star after Satanism got (justly) tuned down. Monastic orders at least let you toggle celebacy, which is the only thing of note. They are super forgettable, much like the college of Cardinals. All the stuff not involving that selling point are pretty good, but not worth the cost by themselves. Artifacts can be super strong. The fourth counselor jobs are pretty decent. Mass prisoner actions and allied army commands are a great QOL change if you war a lot. Edit: forgot about the Assassins, which are only available if you are Shia. They are cool as well. Societies are very useful if you are a paint the map sort of guy. I'm not, so I don't use them all that often. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jan 3, 2018 |
# ¿ Jan 3, 2018 04:15 |
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Assuming they don't have an Intrigue score worth a drat, make them spymaster and send them to Constantinople to study technology. Might not be the best idea with a lot of negativity, but if you think of you'll live long enough to shed some of those, it's a good way of getting your heir killed/castrated.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2018 14:16 |
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Quoting my old post back on page 482 with my DLC recommendations. The sale price total might not be right since I can't really check it on my phone, but the recommendations of Way of Life, Conclave, Reaper's Due, and Old Gods still stand. I am hella PEEVED posted:
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2018 11:54 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I'm still farting around trying to do an Ireland 769 run. Is there anything I'd want in the China DLC? If you don't care about achievements you can make China range infinite. Beyond that, the new CBs are pretty nice for Catholics (and everyone really, but Catholics get nothing fun so it's really a boon for them). I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Mar 2, 2018 |
# ¿ Mar 2, 2018 21:17 |
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Demon_Corsair posted:Does anyone have some tips on getting good? I've been playing the standard newbie Ireland game and I've gotten to the point where I control Ireland, half of Wales, and most of Scotland (need to kick the previous king out of his last two duchies) but no matter what I try England always wipes the floor with me. I can occasionally grab one or two English provinces if they have a civil war or something, but any time there is a strong king I'm fuuuuucked. England will be stronger than you even with all of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Get all of Scotland and get your own domains in order and wait for a weak leader/other opportunity to strike when England is busy with something else. You can also go for an alliance with France/HRE and try to marry into some lands/strong dutchy/kingdom claims.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2018 22:53 |
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Steam page says it runs till Sat at 10am Pacific. Also the DLC is on sale. Jade Dragon is at 33% off. Everything else is at 50% off.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2018 19:45 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Quick question: how do I pay off a loan from the Knights Templar? I've tried donating to the order but the -10 relation penalty from churchy types won't go away. They have some land in my kingdom, do I have to kick them out? don't want to piss off the Pope. You need to wait till they come knocking, but I haven't taken a loan from a holy order in a while (due to that), so maybe it's been changed to something else. Yes, you're right, there should be an option in the Intrigue menu where you took out the loan, but there isn't. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Apr 6, 2018 |
# ¿ Apr 6, 2018 11:16 |
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explosivo posted:I think my biggest obstacle at this point is terminology - knowing what everything is called and what the difference is between lords and vassals and earls. Also not knowing what I'm supposed to be doing in my "downtime" between wars that isn't finding people to marry. Regarding Dukes/Earls: Just look at the border around the person and focus on memorizing that. The fancier looking, the higher ranked. I also have trouble with this. I have zero idea what any Islamic leader titles actually are. My brain just can't remember them. I just look at the borders and go "oh duke" or "oh Islamic king" To your second question: Sometimes the best answer is just biding your time. Events take time to fire, sometimes there just aren't claimants to the land you want, or the holder is too strong. Depending on your DLC you have other stuff like Societies/China. You can always stockpile gold for mercs/improvements.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2018 21:34 |
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Poil posted:Which is the best dlc to get along with the base game? I can only really afford one or two. It might of course be better to not get any dlc at all and wait until a few dozen hours of playing. If you view my posts in this thread, I posted the list of DLC. I can't pull it up since I'm on mobile. The short answer is Conclave & Way of Life adds stuff for everyone and expands the game for every leader. Reapers Due is great for the expanded disease system, and Old Gods gives you a good start date and the ability to play as Vikings or other Pagans. Edit: the game goes on sale all the time, so you don't need to get everything now. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 20:29 on May 18, 2018 |
# ¿ May 18, 2018 20:26 |
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New expansion announcment. Guess its time to stop playing Vikings till it drops, so I can then play only the Vikings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEFoubsSzG8 Blurb from the paradox page that I dont see on the steam page https://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusad...0180517_pla_ann quote:Baptism or War! https://store.steampowered.com/app/756660/Expansion__Crusader_Kings_II_Holy_Fury/ quote:ABOUT THIS CONTENT I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 12:44 on May 19, 2018 |
# ¿ May 19, 2018 12:42 |
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Dirk Pitt posted:I’m trying my first game ever and playing in Ireland. I just reformed to Tanistry, with a 1066 start. Am I hosed? Should’ve gone another way, I take it, but I guess 10 years of random rule is going to be fun. Tanistry is fine. It's better than gavelkind, since it gives all your holdings to one heir in your dynasty. It'll probably be some older cousin or uncle, but it'll be fine. Edit and a bad heir isn't the end of the world. Assuming you aren't trying for a specific achievement, losing and regaining land and then going on your revenge tour part of the loop. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 2, 2018 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 13:35 |
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The Kinslayer trait would be the worst if you directly plot to kill the person and get caught. There are other ways to avoid that, but it's more RNG. If they suck at stewardship or intrigue and are in your court, you can have them collect taxes/spy on tech in Constantinople and see if they get the "bad option" of getting murdered by peasants or getting castrated by the byzantines.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2018 14:40 |
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Way of Life, Conclave, Reaper's Due is probably the top three that you're missing.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2018 00:17 |
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Olewithmilk posted:Sorry If this gets asked thousands of times, but below is the DLC I don't have for CKII: Conclave and Reaper's Due. rear end in a top hat Vassals is the name of this game, and a better disease system is good. If you wanted to wait for a sale in general, that's not a bad idea either. They are common enough.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 11:39 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 06:30 |
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Zyxyz posted:I didn't get conclave because everyone said "conclave is good b/c it makes the game harder" and I'm a noob who's bad at game so making it Hard is the last thing I need Harder, kinda. If you are small you can shove your council full of yes men who cares about some single count or baron. When you get big it gives you options for poo poo heads. It also gives you more reasons to say "gently caress this dude and his whole dynasty" which makes things more fun. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Aug 8, 2018 |
# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 23:02 |