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Phylodox posted:It's the next logical step: reboot the series before the last movie. Well actually, yeah. This is evidently a 'soft' reboot, which is standard procedure for comic-book franchises. Create a movie that functions as a sequel to spiderman 3, but that also leaves open the possibility of an eventual crossover with the new spiderman.
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Man Of Steel does acknowledge the internet. It just says 'gently caress bloggers', which is something I can get behind. Another good example is Kick rear end 1.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:01
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Sir Kodiak posted:In general, sure, but the implication is 'gently caress bloggers' in contrast to, like, mainstream print newspapers, which is like, what? Although I'm sure there is one, I don't actually recall even seeing a newspaper in Man Of Steel. The Daily Planet could be a mostly-online publication for all we know. It's entirely about the journalistic integrity.
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Mar 8, 2016 22:14
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Boob Marley posted:le sigh... 
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Mar 10, 2016 22:20
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I didn't intend for it to happen, but my adjusted chart reveals that rotten-tomatoe and imdb scores are effectively random. They are useless for the purpose of directing me to a quality film.
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Mar 10, 2016 22:40
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DeimosRising posted:At first I was like, no way can Ant Man and Iron Man 3 be that bad, Age of Ultron was insanely terrible. That question mark just doesn't stand out. I'm saying your 30 second mspaint graph lacks visual rigor. 
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Mar 10, 2016 22:50
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What if I told you that all these films exist in the same universe.
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Mar 10, 2016 23:55
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You've put Amazing Spiderman and Regular Spiderman in the same universe, and now both Spidermen are dead because of the Timecop rules. You've killed Spiderman. Also Xmen Firstclass. And the Fantastic Fours. Plus Iron Man 1 with the original Rhodey. That's a universe. Xmen Origins Wolverine. Multiple metal guys. (The one from Deadpool.) You better believe that Incredible Hulk's a universe. All these characters are dead.
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Mar 11, 2016 00:07
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Jutsuka posted:Taking a closer look at the screen where Thunderbolt Ross is showing the clips from previous films the canon deathtoll is as follows: Haha. Jesus Christ. But, actually, this makes sense if you read it as the number of deaths for which the Avengers were found personally responsible. Like, straight-up negligent homicide kind of stuff.
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Mar 11, 2016 01:52
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HIJK posted:Steve Rogers is always right because he's always on the side of freedom. Tony Stark is the frightened reactionary trying to get control of an uncontrollable situation. The whole "Tony Stark has the emotional, human motives" thing, translated from Marketing to English, means "we finally figured out the concept of a sympathetic villain in a movie." SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Mar 11, 2016 03:11
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Nuclear Strike In London Five Dead, Dozens Injured
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Mar 11, 2016 03:35
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The beauty of the Watchmen movie is that it predicted Marvel Studios.
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Mar 11, 2016 20:18
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CountFosco posted:The tone is completely flat, there's no energy, everything about it just screams perfunctory and arbitrary. It's gross. With some trailers, fans will talk almost exclusively about things like the characters' costumes while pinpointing comicbook references ("Spiderman's mask has smaller eyes!" "Antman rides an arrow!"). With other trailers, fans talk almost exclusively about things like aesthetics and morality ("Superman promotes the wrong ideology!" "It's too 'realistic'!"). Boob Marley posted:I have never been rattled harder by anything in my life than this comment. Good god. Christ almighty.
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Mar 11, 2016 21:29
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Comic books are not fun. Iron Man is not a fun movie.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:26
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Iron Man is a dead-serious, moralistic movie about the consequences of fun.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:31
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Remember how the latest Captain America movie ended with him bloodied and repeatedly struck in the face with a metal fist, allowing himself to be beaten to death by a robot sporting the face of his dead best friend? Good times.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:46
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CelticPredator posted:Sometimes movies have dramatic moments. The entire movie is like that. Remember that fun scene where Steve's ex-crush has the alzheimers?
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Mar 12, 2016 00:55
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LesterGroans posted:I was gonna say Anthony Mackie, but then I remembered he ran like group therapy for veterans with PTSD. Exactly. All these MCU movies (save for Cap 1) are about horribly depressed people who make jokes in order to deal with the fact that everything sucks and there's no hope. "I got low. I didn't see an end, so I put a bullet in my mouth..."
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Mar 12, 2016 01:03
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CelticPredator posted:And then he smacks a flamboyant god around like a ragdoll. That's not hope. That's jokes.
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CelticPredator posted:Jokes are fun. I am expressing a simple distinction between hope in the face of crushing despair, and jokes that distract from crushing despair. That's why one of the most fun superhero battles is the one between Faora and armyman Chris Meloni. "A good death is its own reward" vs, I don't know, making a reference to Galaga aboard your depressing clinical death fortress.
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Soggy Cereal posted:I love this. I think this is why I like these movies so much. The issue is that, if you're looking for actual comic-book lightheartedness, you need to look to Man Of Steel. Lois Lane, dogged and adventurous photojournalist, is the sort of concept that's totally alien to the Marvel Studio films. Concepts like integrity don't fit in a world where everyone is either dangerously misguided or a rube ready to be exploited. As another contrast, the verisimilitude of the Dark Knight films (which are, of course, much more absurd and humorous than gripey fans tend to recall) allowed them to function as satires. There's none of this dour "it's all fun and games until..." chastisement. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Mar 12, 2016 02:44
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Boob Marley posted:All this talk about McWeeny's stuff being debunked as fake and gay rumors and yet not a single source. Read any good books lately?
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Lumpy the Cook posted:When there are thousands of Americans clamoring for political and/or racially motivated war, It seems extremely irresponsible, at best, to broadcast giant letters saying AMERICA CIVIL WAR to filmgoers. Nah; the actually irresponsible thing is this "we designed it so that it's deliberately unclear who's right" deal - as if such obfuscation is a good thing. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 00:44
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I said come in! posted:I'm the only person in the entire world that liked this movie. Plenty of people liked the movie. It's just a loving trash fire.
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Mar 23, 2016 09:51
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Scyantific posted:I'm not sure if he knows what collateral damage really means; the stuff that happened in Episode VII was intentional. Plotwise, the Star Wars baddies' targets were highly specific: "This fierce machine which you have built, upon which we stand, will bring an end to the Senate! To their cherished fleet!" The billions of other casualties were, in fact, 'collateral damage' with no real bearing on the plot.
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Mar 23, 2016 22:26
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HorseRenoir posted:I think the main point he's conveying is that no one actually cares about lethality and destruction in blockbuster films, they just want the filmmakers to let them know that they can feel good about it. Many would prefer a movie to be 'awesome' in the "dude!" sense, as opposed to the original terrifying sense.
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Mar 23, 2016 23:35
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net cafe scandal posted:I havent watched BVS and probly wont in theaters because Im incredibly poor but I have a feeling I would like it. I'd recommend holding out for the director's cut, if at all. It's a good film that got hacked to bits by the studio.
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Mar 26, 2016 10:41
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Doflamingo posted:What the hell? That movie needed to be even shorter, not longer. A movie feeling overlong is a result of bad editing, not the runtime itself.
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Mar 26, 2016 17:26
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Maxwell Lord posted:See I knew about the "R-rated" cut being planned but I figured that'd just be a minute's worth of footage at best- did they actually cut a bunch of story/character stuff too? The studio "got nervous" at the 3-hour runtime, and Snyder didn't have the clout to oppose the relatively last-minute edits. They apparently cut it to focus almost exclusively on the Batman/Superman fight in the title, removing focus from side characters whose ideas are actually influencing the battle. A crucial scene at the start, showing how Superman actually operates as a hero now that the world knows about him - and how Lois works as his sidekick - is specifically mentioned as being both longer and different. In general, Snyder says lots of ideas were left 'unfinished'. Snyder compares his version to the Watchmen Director's Cut (which is way superior to the decent theatrical), and Darko (who had a small role working on the film) compares it to the Kingdom Of Heaven DC - which is often held up as the biggest examples of a director's cut redeeming a butchered film. Having seen the studio cut, I can pretty much confirm this. For the first twenty minutes, it's the best superhero film ever - but things started getting choppy. Big chunks in the middle are blatantly cut down to just bare exposition explaining why the fight scenes are happening. It's a testament to Snyder's skill as a director that this version works at all. But it's basically a series of cool short films, intercut with narration.
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Squinty posted:Unless WB promised him 3 hours and pulled the rug at the last minute, there's no way Snyder actually expected they'd let him release a cut that long into theaters. You aim for 120 minutes and you're ecstatic if the studio lets you go over. If he couldn't come up with a coherent edit, that sounds more like a failure of planning than studio meddling. You're right; Snyder made a deal to let the studio do whatever they wanted with the theatrical release, as long as he got the final cut on the dvd. "I don’t wanna say I was in a battle with the studio but I was probably more headstrong on that movie because the material was so important to me. And then they promised me that they would make this director’s cut and that was where the deal was made. I was like, ‘okay, I’ll get you [the time you want].’" So the dvd version was always intended as the 'real' version.
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Doflamingo posted:Excuses. The studio cut is all we have to go on right now and by all accounts it's poo poo. The director's cut might elevate it somewhat but it's not going to suddenly turn into this remarkable work of art. Most people aren't going to be exposed to that cut anyway. Actually, it's a pretty good movie. I saw it.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:34
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Doflamingo posted:I don't see how anyone can like a laughably useless Lois Lane, Batman acting like a rampaging idiot and Superman being the soggiest noodle ever Then sit, friend - and listen!
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Mar 26, 2016 21:06
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Shageletic posted:Isn't BvS making like all the money right now? Yes but it's a whopping 16.5% lower than the spergometer's top score.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:05
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ImpAtom posted:I'm sure it's going to be a success. I doubt it will have THAT huge a dropoff. At best it's the difference between a big success and a huge success. Civil War will absolutely make more money. That's not even in question. It will get 'better reviews' as well, as no-one will deride or praise it as passionately. It's a Spiderman prequel on top of sequelizing like six other franchises. The one factor against it might be if Age Of Ultron's mediocrity has cooled enthusiasm for the Avengers franchise aspect, but even that's highly unlikely.
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Mar 28, 2016 18:31
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What a ref. They called the fourth Iron Man film Iron Man Three.
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Steve2911 posted:The only thing? They're doing the teamup movie before introducing the team. What if the team-up movie... is the introduction.
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Rough Lobster posted:Who wins in a fight, Martian Manhunter or the Vision? Whoever wins, we lose.
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Wonder Woman's going to be dope because it's obviously inspired by propaganda posters of the time.   I hope the villain is a massive baboon wearing a Prussian helmet with "MILITARISM" written on it.
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Guy A. Person posted:poo poo's just weird honestly. The budget was 250 mil and it is going to clear 700 mil internationally over the weekend. That seems like a moderate success but at the same time if it totally bottoms out from here that puts it in roughly the same spot as ASM2 which was considered such a disappointment that Sony cancelled their franchise plans and went groveling to Marvel. Then obviously as people have said there's merchandising but I'm sure there were studio projections which it would still be super bad to miss by too much. I also don't know how marketing cost factors into all of this (is it included in budget traditionally?) Certainly missing expectations is still a huge deal when you are planning this to be a decades long franchise starter. The main problem here is that this notion of a 'franchise starter' is total bullshit. With Spiderman, the Sony people were vying to create a 'shared universe' around Andrew Garfield: Garfield's villains, Garfield's dad, Garfield's aunt, etc. There was this presumption that Garfield 2 would be a megahit, and enthusiasm for it would carry over into all these other projects. They bought into the 'franchise starter' concept, and it was a bad gamble. Dawn Of Justice doesn't do that. The franchise has already started with the Dark Knight films and Man Of Steel (which is, obviously, modeled after the Dark Knight films). In this context, Dawn Of Justice is a very minor film - which might seem like an odd thing to say, but there you there you have it. It's Dark Knight 5 or 6, depending on how you count these things. Wonder Woman's got hype and Suicide Squad's got Will Smith. They're going to do just fine. Now, if you go back and look at the Marvel Studios films, the 'franchise starter' was Iron Man 1, and they followed that up with the loving Hulk 2 (retroactively incorporating Ang Lee's Hulk in the process). So, line up the series: Hulk -> Iron Man -> Hulk 2 -> Iron Man 2 -> Thor -> Captain America. Dark Knight series -> Man Of Steel -> BVS -> Suicide Squad -> Wonder Woman -> Aquaman(?). In terms of its placement, Batman V Superman is the Hulk 2 of the 'DCU' - and is, obviously, both a better film and far more of a hit. And there's simply no way that Suicide Squad is worse than Iron Man 2. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Apr 3, 2016 |
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