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So the standard line of attack I keep hearing about the ACA is that it's the individual mandate that's the devil incarnate. Except the only other feasible alternative to an individual mandate is to have it funded via taxes, right? Which is effectively the same, just branded differently, right?
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Tobermory posted:Funding it with taxes is not the same, it's a whole lot worse. Thank you for this - I appreciate having the distinction pointed out.
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Mar 3, 2016 07:40
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Scott Forstall posted:The only thing I can think Romney can do tomorrow that would actually change anything would be to give Trump the keys to the Republican Party and announce the formation of a new Conservative Party. They created a monster and there's no way to recover the GOP so let trump have it. The Party is dead, long live the Party, in effect. Let everyone have the choice to line up behind Trump Nativism or Romney/Ryan/Sasse/etc Conservatism. I don't think they would do this because it effectively guarantees that they couldn't win the Presidency.
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Mar 3, 2016 09:54
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Scott Forstall posted:Of course they would lose, but if they can give "true conservatives" an option, they can build for 2020. As they are now (tied to the gop), they have to say poo poo like Paul Ryan when he said Trump is terrible but Ryan would still support the nominee. It'd be a stunning reversal if their desperation for the White House drove the GOP to accelerationism. Reverse accelerationism?
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Mar 3, 2016 13:30
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I hope this isn't too off-topic, but I think we've lost the old US History thread. What was Barry Goldwater's platform that was so ... extremist or purely ideological?
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Radish posted:ratfucking Trump. It's not even really ratfucking if they're outright announcing it. The CREEP Nixonites that sabotaged Muskie's campaign did it by falsifying missives with the Senators letterhead. This is just loving with Trump, period.
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Mar 4, 2016 14:21
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Jimbozig posted:I don't understand how they expect this brokered convention to work. Let's say Trump gets 45%, Cruz 25%, Rubio 20%, Kasich 10%. I can see how they could count on Rubio and Kasich's delegates to fall in line behind Rubio/Romney/Ryan or whatever GOPe stooge. But why would they expect Cruz's delegates to do the same once they are unbound? I'm thinking they don't actually have a plan, they're just repeated "brokered convention" over and over as the only other thing that might stop Trump without actually putting together how that's going to be accomplished.
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Maoist Pussy posted:Rank and File Republicans Tell Party Elites: We’re Sticking With Donald Trump USPol Apr - I want to see Trump do damage to the Republican Party
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Quandary posted:I was watching House of Cards today and realized that if there was a tv show that had a plot of this election season, I'd be pretty annoyed by the lack of realism. I haven't really been able to enjoy House of Cards since season 2 because the plot is just downright weaksauce compared to real life. Like, someone flipping Underwood the bird for sky high gas prices is literally oppositeofreality.jpg
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Lotka Volterra posted:This is never going to happen. I mean hasn't Obama been telling Republicans to go gently caress themselves for over a year now?
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Mar 8, 2016 03:25
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The Iron Rose posted:First Past the Post is a fantastic system far superior to proportional representation. It encourages and promotes moderate politicians and moderate policy shifts. It's certainly less democratic, though it's not illiberal by any means. An acceptable sacrifice in my opinion. Noted moderate legislative body the 114th United States Congress.
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Antti posted:How many first past the post systems has the US imposed on other countries after occupation, again? Like Iraq and Japan? How many presidential systems? The Philippines has a FPTP and Presidential system modeled against the US.
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Antti posted:poo poo. I can't find any details on the insular government so I'll grant you this. For what it's worth, I agree with you, and I'd be willing to say that the Philippines' inheritance of the US FPTP+Presidential system is an outlier because of the particular circumstances regarding their colony/colonizer relationship, which is quite different from what they did to, say, Iraq, but you'd be Fishmechily wrong to say that the US never imposed its own Constitution on any of its "liberated" countries.
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Mar 8, 2016 16:30
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McCloud posted:How big is it that Michigan is going for Sanders? The reddit echo chamber is going full tilt trying to spin this as Bernie actually having a chance, but does it change anything? How were the delegates proportioned? CNN had a rare moment of insight and clarity when they said that for all the wins that Sanders is racking up, the fact that some of these states are proportional means that he needs to win states by 60-40 margins instead of sub-5% margins if he's going to stand a chance, because he's not going to convince any superdelegates to jump ship if they head into the convention behind in pledged delegates, or even if he draws parity.
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Mar 9, 2016 09:44
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Do all of the Dem primaries reward delegates proportionally? I know some of the GOP primaries are winner-take-all but I don't know if that's the case for the Democrats. A quick google says all of the Dem primaries are proportional.
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Mar 9, 2016 10:07
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UIApplication posted:Can someone explain "poll unskewing" for me? I wasn't plugged into D&D for 2012. There was a theory that there were actually more conservative voters than "mainstream" polling indicated, either because of an unintentional flaw in the polling models, or because the mainstream pollsters were deliberately manipulating the media to make the Dems look good. So someone put up an unskewed polls website, which took existing polls, shifted them several points towards the GOP, and then called those the real/actual numbers. It was complete bullshit, but it was amusing for how utterly deluded they made the conservative pundits look.
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Mar 9, 2016 14:39
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Potato Salad posted:Posters like Bi Now Gay Later and others are convinced that youth turnout is a joke for this election season. Are they objectively wrong? This last primary was an outlier because "youth turnout is joke" has been true every other time.
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TBF I wouldn't attend Nancy Reagan's funeral over SXSW either.Tempest_56 posted:And this is what kills Bernie's chances. Right now, superdelegates aside, Bernie's down by 218 delegates. There's 2730 left (697 in the next week) - to even tie he needs 54% of the remaining votes. To overcome the gap in the superdelegates, he needs to grab 70.4% of the remaining delegates. Just to tie. Considering how he's getting blown out in the southern states, that's an extremely high bar and unless he can land some big wins in places like Florida, Ohio and NY in the next few weeks he's going to be in too deep a hole to climb out of. I don't think Sanders needs to tie after superdelegates are factored in, since the superdelegates are going to jump to back a winning candidate, but he at least needs to do better than tie before superdelegates to make a compelling case for himself, and that's still a very formidable task even if he doesn't necessarily need 70/30 blowouts.
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Koirhor posted:What I have learned today is 100 years from now tobacco will be hailed to cure all sorta of illness. Tobacco was already being claimed as a cure-all about half a century ago, but you're right that we're due for it to be in vogue again as a panacea.
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Mar 10, 2016 08:49
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i was just saying that, given how many other risky food products are permitted, there's no particular reason why raw milk should be singled out for a ban. it's not appreciably more dangerous than other things which are legal - i can go buy enough alcohol to kill myself for like $20, right now. that being said, i understand why some jurisdictions ban alcohol sales, even if i dont agree with it Banning alcohol is banning alcohol. Banning raw milk still leaves the populace with access to milk.
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Mar 11, 2016 09:47
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spoon daddy posted:In other news. A pretty good analysis of Obama's Foreign Policy. I'm not a fan of Jeffrey Goldberg's blogging but every so often his long form writing is compelling. This is a super pro-click BTW quote:“isis is not an existential threat to the United States,” [Obama] told me in one of these conversations. “Climate change is a potential existential threat to the entire world if we don’t do something about it.” Obama explained that climate change worries him in particular because “it is a political problem perfectly designed to repel government intervention. It involves every single country, and it is a comparatively slow-moving emergency, so there is always something seemingly more urgent on the agenda.”
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Talmonis posted:They (and the rest of Scandinavia) are extremely homogenous. Homogenization doesn't actually make the milk any safer though, it's to prevent the cream from rising to the surface.
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Does Ted Cruz have a sex tape?
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Mar 13, 2016 17:42
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eNeMeE posted:...please travel back in time to before you put that idea in my head and then kill yourself. I don't care if it ends the universe, just make it not happen! Don't blame me, it's YCS that's insinuating it
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VirtualStranger posted:Within the last couple of weeks, The Clinton v. Trump polls all have her winning by double-digit popular vote margins, and the Sanders v. Trump polls are forecasting an electoral blowout that hasn't been seen since Walter Mondale. What was the makeup of Congress like before and after the LBJ v Goldwater bout, and same with the Mondale v Reagan debacle?
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CelestialScribe posted:You guys shouldn't be so arrogant that Hillary will defeat Trump in a general election. He could easily win. He could win insofar as it's not a literal physical impossibility that he might do so, but "easily" is not a qualifier I would apply to Trump's chances.
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CelestialScribe posted:Trump softens the rhetoric. I feel like this is one of those "Any Day Now" things.
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Zeroisanumber posted:I remember on his visit to Africa last year that he said he could run and probably win a third term if the Constitution allowed it. At the time, I didn't think that was true, but after this primary season it definitely is. Would Sanders supporters be more or less likely to vote for Obama instead of Clinton?
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Wasn't erasing racist culture by Federal brute force the objective of Reconstruction in the first place?
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deadly_pudding posted:"Guys, no, when you exclude a group on the basis that they are being colossally toxic, hateful assholes, it is actually YOU who are the colossally toxic, hateful rear end in a top hat!" It's like that "why won't you tolerate my intolerance!" bit you get from right-wingers.
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Business Gorillas posted:looking forward to all the tut-tutting about how primary chat needs to be in YCS since someone said something other than "look at how stupid all of these bernie supporters are Primary chat isn't for much longer in this world anyway, what with Sanders having a fork stuck in him as of today.
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gohmak posted:Here is the video not just the audio This is an incredible pro-tier click "if you look at something called velocity of money, you guys know what it is, I presume" - Asher Edelman, to CNBC hosts, while endorsing Bernie Sanders  
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Zelder posted:trans ambassador sounds like a cool job and i'd love it on my resume A position previously held by Shia LeBeouf, and later handed over to Mark Wahlberg
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I thought the Constitution doesn't actually say how many justices there should be?
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blackguy32 posted:Calculators help but math is so much more complex than that. And that professor was Jeb Bush
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I recall that that was a plot device in one of the Tom Clancy books. John Clark and Ding Chavez got a room with a balcony facing the runway of a military airport, and then when an AWACS plane was about to land, they "shot" the cockpit with a laser thingy and it blinded the pilots on final approach and it caused the planes to crash.
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Radish posted:I think the problem there is that even if it's overall safer, being the guy that makes the decision to get rid of feel good but ineffectual security measures is going to be destroyed the moment anything eventually happens since you can't stop everything. No one is going to want to be the person "responsible" for a terrorist attack being successful. With the security theater people can pretend that they tried their best to stop it. That's why terrorism is so effective. Nobody wants to be the guy that says "the correct response is to do nothing, because overreacting is exactly what they want us to do". And nobody wants to listen to the guy that says it.
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zoux posted:Because it shows that all religions are bad It also shows Islam is bad, which I imagine is a direct, not side-, benefit for a lot of internet atheists when taking up that set of beliefs.
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shrike82 posted:Jesus Maybe they could haul out this old chestnut for the general election
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I know we are diverging from u.s. politics, but it's not like there are historical Christian terrorist in the US, or contemporary ones around the world. Because Amergin is having the opposite debate in another site and he needs us to copy paste arguments from.
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