USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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Luna Was Here posted:

I'd say if its a Trump win the 1000 posts a day dont stop till January. If Hillary, they'll stop right after she's elected

And they'll quickly die down in January with a Trump win because internet access won't be allowed in the ~~gulags~~ re-education centers.

EDIT: ^^^ :argh:

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 09:31

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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:39

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Serrath posted:

Listing things in some sort of chronological order like this has so much more impact than watching each train wreck one at a time

Not really.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/donald_trump_is_unfit_to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html

Your brain just sort of shuts down about 20 deep into it, and you no longer get an emotional response from anything else on the list. It's sort of like how severe frostbite is described. At a certain point, the nerves die and the brain realizes it is no longer beneficial to send pain signals. All that's left to look forward to is that last burst of adrenalin and endorphins, but it's probably not coming until late October.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 11:01

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Pakled posted:

Unfortunately, no amount of Trump hate is going to convince Utah to elect the first trans person to be nominated to run for the US Senate by a major party.

While splitting tickets is becoming less and less a thing nationwide, I have to think that Mormons would happily do it against Trump. They have strong moral objections against Trump personally, but they also have strong objections to the Democrats in general in comparison to Republicans in general. It's possible that Trump won't hit a plurality of votes in Utah, but Hillary's coattails wouldn't be taking any Democrat along for the ride, no matter who they were.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 09:16

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Edmund Lava posted:

Is this the first year the general election started before the Olympics? Going to be weird seeing the candidates try to pry attention away from that.

I'm really interested in seeing how the Olympics will be interpreted through the American political lens, if it's even half the clusterfuck it's shaping up to be.

Seeing people literally swimming through raw sewage and contracting diseases is a powerful argument for the need for competent government and infrastructure investment. But street gangs wantonly mugging people and maybe even murdering them, potentially all caught live on camera, is the type of thing that could benefit a xenophobic strong man candidate.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 09:32

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Edmund Lava posted:

Disagree. Not that it won't be a poo poo show cause it will, but the media mostly going to be running positive patriotic stories like Simone Biles crushing the dreams of lesser women.

NBC will be running those positive stories. Everyone else will gladly run the stories about it being a huge shitshow, because they don't get any benefit from the Olympics. In fact, showing what a disaster it is is pretty much the only way that they can legally get the Olympic rings on TV and even use the name "Olympics".

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 09:37

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Antti posted:

Actually I'd call this pulling a Perot:

Anyone who prints out an Excel chart without changing the default grey background to white first is unfit for the presidency.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 13:38

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OAquinas posted:

Don't gently caress over your friends. If you want to keep the friendship, give him an out. It's not condescending unless you're a total dick about it.

That being said, you totally get a free "I told you so"

No, he doesn't. The point of a bet is to replace endless arguments and one side's eventual "I told you so" with a simple cash transaction. All of the necessary emotional content should be contained wordlessly within that moment when the loser is taking actual money out of his wallet.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 10:20

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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/760846165701165056

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

lol. Tea Partiers' main M.O. is primarying anyone they find to be insufficiently pure, and now they are crying because they weren't given institutional support against more moderate primary challengers by the establishment. It's like a boxer whining that his opponent is moving and punching back.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 15:48

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greatn posted:

Why does Jihnson seem to take more from Clinton than Trump in all these?

There are a lot of people who would normally vote Republican, but simply can't bring themselves to vote for Trump, to the point that they pick Hillary when only given the head-to-head option. They switch over to Johnson when given the chance.

I really don't think any significant portion of these are Democrats or liberals or even Bernie-or-busters, so it's not cutting into the base vote of Hillary. They are should-be-gimme Trump votes going somewhere else, and that's all that's really important. And I don't think most of them will stick to their guns about a third party when it comes down to the actual voting, so that's even better news for Hillary.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 12:45

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Mr Interweb posted:

While I'm very glad that Trump is getting trashed by Hillary in the polls this week, Trump was actually leading her a week ago. Here's my question: what made those people who supported Trump no more than a few DAYS ago, suddenly change their minds? I mean yeah, yeah Trump said a whole bunch of noxious poo poo. So what? He's been spewing garbage like that ever since he started running (and for, you know, the the past 40 years). "I know Trump said he hated muslins, but I never thought he'd actually attack one!"

The Comey announcement last month really hurt Hillary for a few weeks, but now it's fading with time. Trump got a bounce from his convention, but that's also fading. Hillary's convention bump probably just peaked. Post-convention is also when a lot of people start being serious about the election, instead of only treating it as an entertaining sideshow. And on top of all this, Trump has gone into full meltdown mode with the Khan thing and everything else. I mean, even more so than usual.

Basically, if you remember back to sixth grade science class, where you learned about constructive and destructive interference of light waves, Hillary's campaign has focused into a powerful laser beam.

I think she'll maintain a lead, though not so dominant, over the next three months, and this week will be looked back upon as her high point. But I'd love to be wrong, and see her up the score.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 13:49

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Cardboard Box A posted:

If you're going to compile a list of "mysterious deaths", don't start it off with a heart attack in solitary confinement, possibly the least mysterious way of dying imaginable.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 12:06

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Grapplejack posted:

Please don't burn people's private property, even if you think it's ugly tia.*

* Rule not applicable to Union generals :black101:

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 09:38

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Sword of Chomsky posted:

Guys,

Ted Cruz is thinking about leaving the planet

https://twitter.com/NASA_Johnson/status/762749932965097472

I thought "deep space" was outside of the heliosphere, or at least outside of the outermost planets' orbits? Rubio doesn't deserve a death as cool as slowly going insane from isolation while interstellar radiation fries his brain.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 23:31

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Based on this Time article, that's:

Goddam, that is some terrible advice from National Security Advisor John Lithgow.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 13:45

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WampaLord posted:

Don't worry, Trump decided to Double Down x2 on it.

https://twitter.com/HallieJackson/status/763726772278099968

I would have thought that Trump would be against the whole "everybody gets a trophy" thing.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 14:37

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Radish posted:

Hillary not being able to get Obama's minority turnout numbers

Do we have any reason to believe this is true?

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 16:12

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Teddybear posted:

Hillary has launched a podcast, "With Her." gently caress if I'm gonna listen, though. Anyone want to take one for the team?

Looking forward to the future president informing me I can save on postage by going to stamps.com and/or giving a glowing testimonial about her shaving experience with Harry's razors.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 16:31

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ImpAtom posted:

Personally I feel Crooked HIllary really should have reconsidered before she murdered her brother Abel but y'know, Abel was probably aware of where her 30,000 missing emails are so she had to do it.

Actually, this one was done by her running mate.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 20:54

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aellisr posted:

Trump has only one debate strategy, stick to the script, stay aloof, and harp on Benghazi. As long as he isn't entertaining, viewership won't be there and damage can be somewhat mitigated. He is woefully unprepared to spar on national policy or geo-political intricacies. I don't think anyone sees the debates as a chance for him to gain ground.

lol. The first debate (if Trump bothers to show) is going to be on par with the Super Bowl and the M*A*S*H finale in terms of viewership. And nobody will escape the highlight reel afterward.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 13:08

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

It's August 15

Wow. Time flies. It's only sinking in now that we only have a bit more than two months until the beginning of the 2020 campaign season.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 00:03

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Xae posted:

Well... according to CNN today was the first day Trump received the Intel Briefing.

Manafort was fired/shuffled hours later.

omg. If it turns out that Trump's classified briefings are just status updates into ongoing investigations into the Trump campaign and Trump's people, which he is legally barred from talking about in public, then we're truly living in the best timeline.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 16:38

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Harrow posted:

Lots of my "voting for Clinton but not too happy about it" friends are pretty worried about Ken Salazar's appointment as her transition chief due to his pro-fracking (and anti-any sort of fracking regulation) positions. I mostly agree that it's a pretty big misstep but I'm wondering a) how much it matters and b) what people who are generally pro-Clinton can/should do about it.

"Environmentalists" love to just say 'no' to each method of producing baseload power. They are against nuclear, oil, coal, and natural gas (by way of being against fracking). They live in a fantasy world where wind and solar are capable of providing baseload, and everyone can and will magically voluntarily cut back on their energy usage.

Of the reliable methods of actually producing sufficient baseload power, nuclear has the least carbon emissions, and natural gas has second least. The U.S. has been able to significantly reduce its carbon output in the last decade, and it is mostly due to a transition to natural gas from coal/oil.

True, there are valid points to be made regarding fracking regulations and avoidable emissions and negative local geologic effects, but those opposed to fracking generally are opposed to it entirely, instead of having specific addressable concerns.

In short, ask your friends what would be better than natural gas (keep in mind that getting a nuclear plant online takes several years, if they are not also opposed to nuclear) and see if they say something reasonable. Chances are they won't, in which case you can educate them or ignore them.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 17:00

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Pakled posted:

This chart regarding the subject really sticks in my mind.

From https://issuu.com/nationalmedia/docs/nmrppsportspolitics
Size of bubble comes from the number of people who say they typically watch said sport on TV.

How the hell are monster trucks and WWE democratic sports?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 22:48

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WampaLord posted:

Paul Manafort.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/766635989037092867

Resigns?!? How did we not get a public "You're fired" out of this?

So Trump not only sucks at (extreme) vetting of his campaign staff, but he now sucks at even his own branding. And that is pretty much the only thing he's ever been successful at.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 15:39

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dicks assassin posted:

This was briefly mentioned pages ago, but what happened to Bob Dole in '96 that caused the RNC to cut bait on him? Simply down in the polls or was there something else that caused them to turn their backs on him?

GOP insiders found out he couldn't get a boner, and were afraid it would become public.

Unfortunately for Dole, viagra would not be FDA approved until 1998, and Britney Spears would not turn 18 until 1999.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2016 21:33

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Dick Trauma posted:

Can someone explain how polls became so important? Do they ever really predict anything or is it just a bunch of cheerleader bullshit where both sides try to make it look like they're going to win? Is the intention to demoralize your opponents voters so their either don't vote or they vote for you?

Why do people watch sports when they could just wait a while and get the final score?

# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 14:16

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zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/liamstack/status/767798882273222656

This one has a mega twist surprise though

I'm guessing you mean the surprise is that he's white. But if you think about it, the cop probably thought his weird arm movements was him trying to shoot a fireball. After all, grand wizards in the U.S. are notoriously white.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2016 20:23

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stinkles1112 posted:

The current owner of the small business I work for is an absolute treasure trove of turbo racist horse-poo poo

He vehemently argues that "the black community" is teaching it's children how to live on welfare generationally to avoid working. His proposed solution to this is, and I'm not kidding, for the state to take away the children of any person who's on welfare for more than a year.

He routinely uses the phrase "they behave like animals and then wonder why the cops put 'em down" any time the news is showing social unrest in minority communities.

I've tried unsuccessfully on many, many occasions to get him to say "black PEOPLE" as opposed to "the blacks."

He has strong opinions on Trayvon Martin.

Oh and of course, "blacks today are better off because of slavery because otherwise they'd all still be living in mud huts in Africa"

Sabotage his business and then find a new job.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2016 00:04

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Dexo posted:

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/767861443328897024

It's a tragedy, have to have a field medic kit on me at all times when I walk to the McDonalds down the street from my job.

Do you know how stressful it is to get shot every day

It certainly can't get any worse than this.

I found your problem. Cops are always eating in their cruisers in McDonald's parking lots, which explains why you keep getting shot. I recommend having a white person pick up the McD's for you. Chris Christie is a good choice, as he has experience in this field, and doesn't really have anything better to do.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2016 02:24

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zoux posted:

Hillary is giving a speech on the alt-right tomorrow, focusing on Bannon. They got a new ad out for it too.

https://twitter.com/gotdem/status/768543536564215808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

That ad is a good idea, but terrible execution. They should have used people 50+ instead of smug millenials. The editorial comments and facial expressions throughout are annoying. They fly through the quotes way too fast to let the viewer really absorb them and realize why they're terrible. And I don't get why they included the emperor Obama quote - I'm sure there are much more offensive Breitbart headlines, or they could have used the time to slow down the rattling off of quotes.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 22:54

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Kalman posted:

*was* that your point? I thought you were bitching about her pay increases.

I already said it was gouging. I also pointed out that to some extent the gouging appears partially justified based on the fact that, given the opportunity to compete, others failed, repeatedly, to make a better or even equivalent product.

Is an armed robbery "partially justified" if there is nobody around to stop it?

# ¿ Aug 25, 2016 10:22

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rscott posted:

He can grift off the alt right for as long as he wants though, there is a lot of money to be made there

Though he's not the billionaire he claims to be, he has enough money to live comfortably for the next 15 or so years he's got left on this Earth. What he really wanted was respect from those who have slighted him or who hang around in more prestigious circles. And there, he has failed miserably, and the best part is I don't think he yet realizes how fast he'll be dumped by the few clingers-on that he currently has after he loses. He will be completely shut out from the only groups and individuals he cares about, and it will be glorious.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2016 00:48

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McCloud posted:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty hard about the polls. Not because Trump might win (it will take a miracle for that to happen at this point) but because Hillary's double digit lead might make democrat voters complacent. The democrats have a chance to actually win the house. If Hillary does well at the debates, if Trump continues being Trump, then the House might legit be in play, and even if it's just 2 years, with the senate and the house on their side, and with no Blue Dogs, the sky's the limit to what the democrats can accomplish.

But if people look at the polls and keep hearing from the media that Hillary is leading by 12% or whatever they might not be as motivated to go vote, because people don't seem to give that much of a poo poo about the house. I know I should expect the worst, but try as I might to manage my expectations and be realistic, Trumps bungling has given me a bitter taste of that terrible illusion, Hope. And I hate myself for daring to dream

Just accept that the House is out of reach, and focus your arzying on the Senate. The most important thing for Hillary to do is get Supreme Court justices in.

With this mindset, you have an outside possibility of being pleasantly surprised, and you won't take years off of your expected lifespan from the stress of worrying about the House.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 13:52

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RevKrule posted:

Anthony Weiner's caught in another sexting scandal. No explicit nudity (again) and he didn't meet the woman (again). At the end of the day all he's really doing with these women is flirting but it's enough to look really bad especially after doing it before.

And for those unaware, he is married to Huma Abedin, who is a major figure in the Hillary campaign.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 14:39

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FlamingLiberal posted:

He's not in office anymore so I don't get why this is really newsworthy at this point.

I want to live in your world where this is true.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 15:02

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zoux posted:

The Germans all thinking this is just a good faith accident, hang a phonetic spelling of Deutsche in the lobby, but nothing changes.

It's like how every American expat I meet that has had any experience at all with Deloitte and Touche calls them "Toilet and Douche", even though nobody else does. It's just American corporate peon humor. It's especially prominent here in Europe, where expats can hide behind the "stupid American" stereotype, as reported on in that clip. It's like using "irony" incorrectly on purpose around English majors.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 15:58

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Fitzy Fitz posted:

I've still never heard a pro-life response to the fact that 30-40% of pregnancies terminate in the first trimester.

Probably something about God getting to decide when he wants more little angels in heaven, not men.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 16:09

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iospace posted:

Though Bill is known to have only screwed up once (pubicly, anyway). This is Weiner's second time, and a child was involved.

Though part of me wonders if he got catfished.

I know a joke exists for tricking Weiner into sending dick pics that combines "catfish" and "shooting fish in a barrel", but I can't get it just right.

Workshop this with me, D&D.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 16:29

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iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/770279919263907840

I wonder if she even called him first, or if this is her telling him.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2016 16:48

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