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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

"....whereby the recipient promises to use received PC to exclusively play Star Citizen and prominently display CIG's logos. Failure to do so results in a breach of contract.

EDIT: Also, I joined SA so I can meet fabled game developer Derek Smart. I heard he's around here. Can anyone tell me when he posts?

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Apr 28, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

AbstractNapper posted:

For $200 (or was it more?) this amazing driving experience could be yours. Really you can't put a price to it.

Bit off topic, but let's take a moment to soak in the hilariousness of :
-Designing your ships with actual mechanical elevators in a universe where "gravlev technology" and "tractor beams" exist.
-Having elevators on ships that are expected to land on un-even surfaces
-Having to crobble together the necessary scripting to avoid them clipping through the floor (not implemented yet, here's how it will work ...)
- Having to figure out how will your mechanical elevator work if your space chariot is upside down.
-......and not just use some cheapo spotlight particle effect as your "grav shaft" , that can clip through the terrain, suck up players and ships, and do all sorts of weird "gravity-esque" things without looking odd.
....AAALLLLL so you can rip off that one scene in sci fi movies where the commandos descend nervously and slowly from the ship in complete darkenss on the "unknown world " with only their flashlights flicking around. You know, you've all seen that scene...

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

AlbieQuirky posted:

The gall of this is unbelievable. "Hey, go use the DLC you paid for that doesn't work and show us how it doesn't work! Thanks for QA-testing the broken poo poo we sold you suckers!"

Meanwhile, 2007 called :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BY2gHFvAs

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
I'm pretty sure everybody called it by now....

..but Citizen Con is most likely gonna feature some sort of "player built town" . Crib off those Dual Universe guys.
Show you what some players (level designers) built in their own parcel on some forgotten world.
Their "dynamic truck stop space station generator" is just using assets from the "player housing" database, with exteriors being the space station.

Long story short, they're gonna sell you bases, prefabs and probably roll out another 1k of those Pioneer homeworld ripoff ships to boot.


... if they sell oil rigs or "refineries" that you can place on your 50 dollar land plot I 'm pledging on the spot. Will take the Star Wars name of "Parp Wildcat" Callsign : "Frackmaster"

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
So, as someone who hasn't played any CR game and is just here for the lulz, can any of you gentlegoons tell me what exactly is SQ 42 trying to be?
Except bad, that is.
I mean, I've been reading back into the thread and looking at their marketing material, and I still can't figure it out.


From what I can tell , they're making some sort of Deus Ex: Human Revolution, that's liniar and has spaceships.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Agony Aunt posted:

This is good for Star Citizen

This sound like the diametrical opposite of "concern trolling".
"Concern spiting"?

This is like one of those temper tantrums kids throw when they're told they have to take out the trash or brush their teeth.
"I DON'T HAFF TO DO NUFFIN AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!!!!!"

Meanwhile I'm having a good hard laugh at the idea of calling your evil barbarian in space race the "Vanduul"

"Oh right, the evil empire that's threatening the world is called the.... um.... Ruu 'shan Empire. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJzBopVRKPo


Also:

Hey , Billy-Bob-duul, does it ever worry you that every single edge of our space ships is sharpened to a fine-point and you can accidentally cut open your urethra on the flight stick?
Shush! Jerimiah-duul. The ships were designed by our Emperor's wife, the Vice-Empress of ship-design. You don't want her to hear you.... the last person who spoke out ......"

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 1, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Star Citizen will have a 10-90 player to NPC ratio

Two years later

Star Citizen will have a 5-95 player to NPC ratio

Four years later

Star Citizen will be the first self-playing game populated entirely by NPC's

Two weeks later

Crytek takes all their money

Skadden takes all the money

EDIT:
No disrespect meant to TB, tho.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Scruffpuff posted:

From the rumour mill:

Chris Roberts is now trying to get out of his obligation to attend Friday's "dinner with your autistic hero" celebration.

The reason? Concern from Sandi after the crazy Canadian incel guy ran down innocent people that his backers are, and I quote, "The same kind of crazy fuckers, you know they are."

Supposedly Erin is the stand-in; I'm not convinced people who ponied up will be happy with anything less than the genuine inept fraud article.

On the bright side, we at least know the audience for "vial of Chris Roberts' blood" definitely exists.
Also what's an incel? Is that the new term on the euphemism treadmill for autism or?

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Scruffpuff posted:

From the rumour mill:

Chris Roberts is now trying to get out of his obligation to attend Friday's "dinner with your autistic hero" celebration.

The reason? Concern from Sandi after the crazy Canadian incel guy ran down innocent people that his backers are, and I quote, "The same kind of crazy fuckers, you know they are."

Supposedly Erin is the stand-in; I'm not convinced people who ponied up will be happy with anything less than the genuine inept fraud article.

I just thought of a solution:



Jobbo_Fett posted:

Involuntary Celebate and its a bunch of lonely nerds too stupid or depressed to go outside and talk to people becoming resentful douchebags who only want to see women (in general) harmed in some fashion.

Its stupid. Its sexist. Its disgusting. Lock 'em up, I say.

phosdex posted:

involuntary celibates. it's a terrible, dark rabbit hole to go down

Has anyone here ever heard of Moviebob ? Cause that's exactly what I'm thinking when I read those replies.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

TheAgent posted:

much like star citizen, incels only have themselves to blame for their problems

Stacey the cheerleader won't go to the prom with me....

...time to buy another Idris.

(that'll show her)

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

TheAgent posted:

I can't tell what's real or satire anymore

Time to buy a Genesis Starliner and sit down with a nice cold Hairy Roberts.
It'll all makes sense....

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

no_recall posted:

On the case of gameplay vs fidelitous graphics :

Warframe. It is drat good, niche, but the gameplay systems synergize with one another like diablo 3 on steriods. Also the ONLY game that makes you feel like a ninja. Twitch and Youtube videos don't do it justice because its a convoluted mess trying to watch someone playing.

In this game I don't need to care about how awesomely shaded and textured my bullets even are.
I simply use Excalibur.



Couldn't post this since I was at work , but...

Behold!
(excuse the guerrilla style filmography, I'm not used to the game's cinematic camera)

https://webmshare.com/play/z4jbK

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Beexoffel posted:

>nobble
Nice word, I'll try to find a use for it.

Did you know Chris Roberts won the Nobble Piss prize?
Twice!

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Wuxi posted:

I'm the 18 fps on his brand new sponsored super computer while driving through a barren wilderness.

"I get 40 FPS on the PU regularly. I don't know how you naysayers always come out of the woodwork to badmouth Star Citizen. Maybe consider upgrading your potato PC before typing?
What are your specs anyway :)) ?



And furthermore, everyone knows performance is tied to the [waves hands]"


ALSO CORRECTION.
I'm the highlighted, zoomed in 18 fps on a supercomputer while flying through empty space.
He should consider borrowing animoo guy's coolers.

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 19:51 on May 3, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
Love that WTFO's final reaction is :

[CLOSES SC IN A FURY] "Ok i'm done with this poo-poo, it's just gonna piss me off! I'm gonna get ready to get my ticket! (A 100$ + VIP premium ticket for a convention for a "game" he just furiously exited out of)

My shill senses are going through the roof!.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
I'm waiting on piloting on of these:


Imagine all the exciting co-op gameplay that would come from me and my buddies.
"Ok now move me just a teensy bit to the left.
Now to the right
Back to the left.
PERFECT.

Even better if it's one of their subsumption NPC's cargo lifting me from spot to spot.

I can't wait to be airdropped 2 centimeters out of the border of B'tak's plot of land :)

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

trucutru posted:

I yearn for the times where they had someone competent make little commercials for their wares. Nowadays we get about a dozen of still images and a bunch of people who should not be in front of a camera in front of a camera half-assedly speaking about how cool a lame cargo transport is.


Why would you bring 200 people to a battlefield when a) those 200 people own at least 200 ships and b) 200 ships are more effective than 200 people in pretty much any circumstance.

You forgot one thing.

RAMPS!
Their second greatest enemy.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Bofast posted:

That's the new warframe screenshot/videoclip mode, right?

Yeah, the captura thing

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

trucutru posted:

Man, I miss Ryan Archer. He truly embodied the spirit of the project is a way that anybody could understand.

Sadly, for some mysterious reason, his web presence vanished, like the dew. Here are his last words (of wisdom)

quote:

Many of you may not know that recently there has been some controversy centered around my artwork in general and especially that used on the presentation of the KickStarter for the Star Traders game which has recently funded. I know there are some people who have been very upset by this.

First let me say that I made mistakes in how I dealt with some of my reference materials. We did our best to remove the offending art. I also took the time to reach out to the artists whose work was involved. They have all been very generous and understanding and they seemed appreciative that I went to them directly and that I did not mean to disrespect any of their work in this manner. A couple of them even complimented my work which is incredibly humbling coming from such talented artists.

I’m doing my best to learn from this experience and grow into a better artist taking care with how I create my work because of it.

Some of the work people have been offended by was meant for practice and for my own personal growth and others even though we did have permission to use we decided to take down because of how upset people were getting over it. One piece in particular that was used for a box cover we had been told was public domain by our original source however many other sources expressed claims to the copyright and to be safe we removed and replaced that art also as best that we were able.

I spent some time discussing this issue among other artists with respect to artwork in general. Some felt that a piece shouldn’t ever closely resemble any other piece or reference images while others I talked to felt that in many cases it’s inevitable for there to be similarities especially when the nature of the work is to be evocative of something else.

I’m still not sure I know where the line should be drawn, but I’m endeavoring to be less reliant on reference materials and to take much more care in creating future works.

If you would like to respond to me or ask me a question I’d ask that you please do so on my website here.

Thank you very much.


:911:

How I make my art:


(for anyone curious , I called it "The gateway drug" )

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 23:56 on May 3, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

My "call it" will be that in the far future, all that the name Star Citizen will ever be used for is a low effort troll post.
Like, you know how nowadays some particular lazy bum might say something like this to get a reaction?

quote:

Battlefront has perfectly fair multiplayer. It's not EA's problem you're too much of a poor, stingy bastard to pay for a proper, intended multiplayer experience. Maybe you should consider getting a real job so you can afford to play real games?

Well, that's really all that Star Citizen will be used for. Even though goons have developed a lot of memes over the years, nothing has really seeped into popular culture. So I doubt this game will even reach the ironic memetic potential of Daikatana's bitch-making . Even the JPEG sale will lose its meaning over time. No, the only way Star Citizen will ever pop up is in one of these :

quote:

Man, it's a shame Star Citizen never got made. That game really was all set to be the greatest game ever made. Too bad you poor trailer trash couldn't afford to drop a few bucks on a groundbreaking game. But what can you except when you stingy bastards get your games from the Indie Humble Bundle for a cent :)) . Maybe if more real, successful gamers would've pitched, we would have real games. But hey, go back to playing Destiny 3, so Bungie can keep stealth-nerfing your xp.
You're the reason gaming died last generation. So , enjoy it, losers

You know, when we're not getting de-skeletonized and forced to eat people meat, that is.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Shadowlyger posted:

The box-ball looks like something that could be a legitimately cool horror-themed setpiece.

"The cargo has gained sentience. Subsumption was a mistaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [forced into T-pose]"

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
Technically, the poop-stool is the best thing connected to Star Citizen to come out this year.
-does not exist just in JPEG form
-actually does its intended function (hopefully) and is not just a overpriced brick with a spaceship-code attached to it.
-Probably didn't take 8 years to develop

On another note, I think we'll start seeing the crazies stand out a lot more as more and more of the "average joe " backers either leave or refund. You can see something similar with I dunno.... let's go with Sonic the Hedgehog. Once his games started getting worse and worse, most of the community died off and the only people left invested were the die-hard fans. The ones who were sane and well-integrated people went off and did their own thing, with the most notable being Sonic-Mania . The others are the ones who clog up Deviant Art with creepy (technically underage) fetish porn.

The "Sonic Mania" star citizen fans will probably be the ones who'll bring us : "Star Citizen : A Starfield total conversion mod".
The others.... well you can see them right now.

Also, in the interest of fair representation, I'm sure not all these people are crazies. Montoya is a youtube shill trying desperately to drum up controversy for his channel. So is that GamerMax dude . Bored is a straight up CIG shill who will never read off-script even to save his life.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
And furthermore,



at the end of all this, CIG will be begging Poop-Stool incorporated to let them put the "Star Citzen" logo on their product.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux/status/991731521483694082




quote:

Imagine a game where everyone buys imaginary spaceships. The people who buy the most can pay to take you to dinner so you can sell them more imaginary spaceships

Bert Chrisro

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux/status/992349358074093574


quote:

Imagine a game,
then pay us money.

Bert Chrisro

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux/status/976423265890635776

quote:

Imagine a ....... wait , could we actually do that?

Bert Chrisro

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux/status/951058684578279424

quote:

I have a bad feeling about this...

Doctor Rick Smark

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Beet Wagon posted:

I'm disappointed he didn't look further into that "circle of life" infographic.

Hi BeetWagon.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Beet Wagon posted:

Hello friend

So yeah, we've regressed into "It's ok if they pull anti-consumer crap, the game will be worth it".


trucutru posted:

Let's be real here, both the ones that left and the ones that continue are still whacking off to Cream the rabbit.

A series of bad games can't cure that.


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On another note, I think we'll start seeing the crazies stand out a lot more as more and more of the "average joe " backers either leave or refund. You can see something similar with I dunno.... let's go with Sonic the Hedgehog. Once his games started getting worse and worse, most of the community died off and the only people left invested were the die-hard fans. The ones who were sane and well-integrated people went off and did their own thing, with the most notable being Sonic-Mania . The others are the ones who clog up Deviant Art with creepy (technically underage) fetish porn.

The "Sonic Mania" star citizen fans will probably be the ones who'll bring us : "Star Citizen : A Starfield total conversion mod".
The others.... well you can see them right now.

Also, in the interest of fair representation, I'm sure not all these people are crazies. Montoya is a youtube shill trying desperately to drum up controversy for his channel. So is that GamerMax dude . Bored is a straight up CIG shill who will never read off-script even to save his life.

It's ok if the next Sonic game gouges you for lootbox money, but only IF I get to whack off to Cream the Rabbit.
Everything will always be good for Star Citizen.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Yeah.... there's no way this "game" is getting to 2019 without the networking tech.
They just can't kick it down the road to 2019.
I'm pretty sure even the most dug-in whale will make the simple connection:

"Crap server tech that is never improved means no Idris in the PU, like ever."

It doesn't matter what the thing at Cit Con will be. No network tech means no ship sales and probably half their whales refunding.

Another year of "Meshed servers are right around the corner guys!!" will not cut it.
I'm pretty sure even the streamers know that.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Awesome! posted:

did they turn off refunds or not

Even better if they did :).
Cause that means that poo-poo is gonna hit the mainstream media.
Again.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

The Titanic posted:

I don't think you understand the "Star Citizen Paradox", friend. In 2019 you can reread this post while you run your chin over the sales numbers where CIG manages to pull in the same amount of money they did last year and the year before within a few hundred thousand dollar difference.

Welcome, friend. :)

Well sure , enough of these people haven't even opened the game in over 2 years.
But I didn't say they weren't getting any money.
They're just not getting all the money. And they need all the money to keep this train rolling.
They're supposedly shipping out that big overpowered corvette filled with gun turrets.
That thing can ONLY do combat. No network tech means that thing is useless as nobody wants to man a gun turret at 10 FPS.

Kicking the network can down the road again will be the thing that puts a bullet in their project.
All it takes is one insane 10k backer to trigger 'nother round of Kotaku articles, and house of cards is coming down.
"We're continuing to fill our alpha with massive complex 3d models when our servers choke from the load" is about as clear a message for the masses that "They're boned, yo".
Looking at how fixated the backers are on the quaterly releases , they're not weaseling out of it.

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Ironically, "the sliding scale of Star Citizen skepticism" is something I used to refer to me, in chat. The whole "with us or against us, firm believer or Derek Smart alt" thing he was pulling was pissing me off, and I simply explained that there are various degrees of "scam" that go beyond "Yo , Chris is gonna take the money and run off to Mexico, for realz".

Despite what shitposting I've done here in the forum, I think they are , in fact working on a game. But I also think they're doing a terrible job at it. And more importantly, I think in the end it doesn't matter because the huge amount of shady behavior the company engaged in will make whatever "Game" comes out of this irrelevant.
Battlefront 2 was objectively a pretty decent game. It doesn't matter because it was tied to one of the most heinous and exploitative marketing schemes in recent gaming, and therefore, is in fact complete garbage.

By the way, I still don't get if these people refuse to understand how some outsider might think this is a scam (due to fear that it might be true), or are they really that dumb.

EDIT: Someone should explain to them the whole "hire a construction team to build you a house, and they drag it on while charging you by the day" analogy.

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 15:49 on May 8, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

DapperDon posted:

Just got ANOTHER love letter from Don Karnage telling me to just be patient a little longer. That Refund Specialist will be right with me.....

Karnage: HEY! We finally managed to get you the refund specialist.

Sandi: Piss off!

Karnage: This concludes our refunding procedure. Is there anything more I can help you with?

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

his nibs posted:

Your article is a hatchet piece, propaganda to rile up the populace. Please stop.



https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/8hxmsm/star_citizens_new_moves_prioritize_sales_over/dyna0u8/

So their white knight argument is :
"STOP SCAMMING CIG YOU PIECE OF POO-POO!!"

EDIT: Simple solution to all of this. Stop buying ships. Hold on to what you have. If you own a 500$ ship you'll earn pleb-money faster than a guy with a flying trashcan.

If all the goons in this forum believe I can float on a bubble, could you maybe do it in the next 15 minutes? I'm too lazy to walk to the store and buy a pack of smokes.

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 18:11 on May 8, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

You're insignificant . You don't matter. This reddit doesn't matter. CIG doesn't care about you. Nobody does.
Here's a 7 paragraph post on this insignificant reddit to tell you how little everyone cares.


"Look 'ma , I'm trolling on the internet!"

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

History Comes Inside! posted:

PSA we say poo poo here, "poo-poo" is a word filter applied when you're not logged into the forums

See also - "gently caress" for gently caress

Oh thank loving god!

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

Virtual Captain posted:

ARGcast Episode 10 is about to air LIVE: https://www.twitch.tv/virtual_captain

Still time to get in if you want. Or we can add you mid-show probably.

Hey Virtual Captain, did you know Squatty Potty is now advertising some lovely videogame along with their product?
It might be an interesting subject to talk about....

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Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames
If I was Chris Roberts.....

Serious answer: Find some chinese/korean publisher wanting to dip their toes into western pseudo-mmo market, and offload the licence to them . If the Crytek thing is preventing that (which more than surely is) agree to full discovery and take the raw end of the deal and settle.


Less serious answer: Pull what the System Shock reboot guys did and do a massive overblown "apology " .
Crunch whatever I have of a dev team to pull out a MVP, or rather a halfway working empty sandbox that I can use as an environment to sell ships in.
Get MVP out the door ASAP.
Fire every non critical employee I have, with severance pay behind an NDA, and a very serious and direct threat of litigation for slander if they ever speak out.
Make a public announcement that we are merging our offices , and look, we are listening when people told us we have too many people We're putting together a core team , see?
Use whatever funds I have left to hire an external team (like Ilfonic, but one that I can more tightly control and monitor) for the sole purpose of converting ships from concept to in-game.
Release whatever is made of Squadron 42 for free to all backers, with the sad news that the official "squadron 42'" is cancelled. Say that the game was not up to our standard , and the "thing" we just released for free is proof of that.
Throw Erin under the bus. Whatever interviews or press releases he does I can just counter with :" You couldn't make the game. I trusted you. You're upset (butthurt , as Sandi would say) that we fired you for poor performance).
Use the above action (firing Erin) as proof of how dedicated we are to the project. "I fired my own brother because he couldn't hack it. What more do you want? "
Continue to sell ships to the (probably very minuscule) amount of true believers for as long as I can. Use "Ride to Hell : Retribution" publicity to draw curious onlookers who want to experience the train crash for themselves.
All the while, I'm putting together a personal savings account so I can retire from gaming forever.

EDIT: Even more serious answer. Blackmail Derek into taking over Star Citizen by threatening to reveal his real name.

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 9, 2018

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Apr 28, 2018

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Saw posted:

I'm almost 100% sure Sq42 will release 'something'. Don't ignore the Sandi Factor. She's got to be breathing down the neck of her husband and whatever unlucky developer(s) are within earshot. She will NOT end up on the cutting room floor once more! Even if the game is nothing more than 'click the button to watch the next scene' - Sandi WILL be seen 'acting' with B+ list stars.

Cue every let's play-er ever:

HOLY poo poo That's Gillian Anderson...... and some other lady.

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