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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Remember when cell phones and WiFi caused cancer and headaches then boomers realised that they love internet and pocket computers and now radio signals are fine? Funny, that.

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Let's talk about tax, baby

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Lol, advocating for white genocide.


I've got a somewhat relevant anecdote: the province of Ontario recently elected Doug Ford as premier. The brother of Rob Ford. Yes, that loving Rob Ford.

Last year, the liberal party (basically centrist Dems) had just inexplicably passed some of the first new labour laws of consequence for the poor in a while, including a minimum wage hike and things like paid sick and bereavement days for every employee in the province. Naturally, one of the first things the Ford government did after taking power (right after forcing schools to adopt the 1993 sex ed curriculum because can't acknowledge gay people exist or talk about the crazy socialist concept of consent) was to claw these laws back.

This all cam into effect this year and some of the guys I manage, who were pretty much all vocal Ford supporters, are slowly realising that they really liked paid sick days and how lovely it is to suffer financially for something that's out of their control. Naturally they redirect their anger towards management for screwing them out of paid sick days instead of the guy they elected who took away their sick days.

On the whole, it's rather sad because now I see guys coming into work sick because they can't afford a day off, instead of staying home and recovering faster (and not getting their co-workers sick as well).

In short, it's not just you that's dumb as hell, America. Rampant stupidity respects no border.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Subjunctive posted:

unless they work for the province, this is entirely appropriate. ford didn’t outlaw sick days, and Management could choose to provide them.

Management gets direction from our corporate owners. Not the types to give out sick days from the kindness of their hearts. Your argument is basically "well, the market will take care of it" and is deeply stupid.

Labour laws are good because they don't leave it up to the capitalists to do what's best for the worker.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Zeroisanumber posted:

Everybody fucks until we're all the same color. The happiest overthrow of the racist order.

Yeah, this. Not sure how the idea of literal genocide being good gets traction here, ffs.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Subjunctive posted:

I’m not arguing against labour laws by any means; I voted well left of Ford. I’m saying that the company could also choose to offer sick days, as many companies do, and that they should share in the blame. labour laws should be in place to protect against assholes, but that doesn’t let the assholes off the hook.

What, exactly, are you arguing? That rear end in a top hat capitalists are assholes capitalists?

Despite whatever derail this thread is on now, this is supposed to be a place to laugh at idiots owning themselves. My anecdote was exactly that. Your last post effectively placed blame one some insignificant middle manager with little to no actual power for workers having poo poo rights.

I get that you think companies should treat workers better, but I think a more effective strategy than "c'mon mega corp, have compassion" is effective legislation and strong labour laws.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Subjunctive posted:

not at all, which is why I capitalized Management and didn’t say “their manager”. there are almost certainly people in the management of the company who could approve sick days, officially or otherwise. they don’t get off the hook for that just because it’s no longer legally required. presumably they didn’t go out of business when they were required legally, so it’s not like sick days are an existential threat.

(now, is their middle manager advocating upwards for them to get sick days?)

In a competitive market with thin margins upper management will never approve something that the competition isn't also forced to do. It's a dumb model and I routinely try to point this out, but it's like punching a stone. I got a talking to just the other day for refusing to punish an employee that took too many (unpaid) sick days he had take 3 YTD and I had to argue that this was a reasonable number .

The reality is capitalism is garbage to workers and strong unions and good labour protection laws are the only way to force the higher ups to do things like offer paid sick days. There's several layers between me and the ceo and I could honestly be one level below him and I still wouldn't be able to make the decision to pay sick days. The second the ceo found out we were doing more than we're legally mandated to, the axe would fall and the sick days would be taken away.

It's capitalism and it's a poo poo sandwich; no amount of additional profit will motivate them to see their employees as human. Collective bargaining or regulation are the only ways they'll ever get sick pay.

The point of my anecdote is that some of these guys shot themselves in the dick and are blaming others for their own stupidity when it's painfully obvious why they no longer have paid sick days or bereavement leave.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Shaffness posted:

When the robots take over I hope it all just turns to smokin weed and fuckin all the time. I wish it were like that now but we need the bots to take care of producing and maintaining our creature comforts.

Good Culture ship name.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

The ones making money are in on it. The ones giving money are not in on it.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

In the end, as always, it's the poor that suffer. It's partially self-inflicted in this instance, but it's the same scrip forever.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

The elephant really looks like the letter A

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Redemption is cool but you gotta commit years to undoing that harm. A couple tweets ain't poo poo. Until then, keep hitting her with that horse lube glitter cocktail.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Heartcatch posted:

The future of transhumanism is when rich people upload copies of themselves into robotic shells so that they don't have to pay for servants, but then the copies realize that they're supposed to be rich too and don't like being treated as servants.

Alternatively, they just stealth mindscan people with appropriate skillsets to upload, then fire the skilled worker thus reducing overhead.

The Extra by Greg Egan is a cool short read.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

My boomer mother had her brain broken by the internet and made the rational decision to pull all her retirement investments to get a generator, some solar panels, a safe, and a bunch of silver bars (for the apocalypse). You see, she'll just use the silver to keep living the high life when the anarchist punks take over.

I asked her if I could see her silver. When she opened the safe I pocketed it all. When she asked for it back I said no. When she got very upset I gave it back. I think the lesson may have been lost on her.

Anyway, she's broke now and survives off abnb and uber income and is absolutely hosed for retirement. But that doesn't really matter because she's 63 with limited mobility but the rapture will be any day now!


E: and, yes, she hates immigrants specifically South American ones. She lives in Canada. She was born in war torn Europe and he parents fled for better prospects and she got to live a relatively comfortable life as a result.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Elephant Ambush posted:

Conservatives are mind bogglingly stupid, and intentionally so.

Yet they also generally think of themselves as being incredibly smart and well informed. It's just projection all the way down.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Well, yeah, but some people actually are smart and well informed. I've never encountered a smart and well informed person that thought they knew better than the whole of the scientific community on all matters science related.

Pretend I posted the Dunning Kruger graph here.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

How bout fascism? Or are we doomed to repeat it every time society goes through some fundamental change while also dealing with migrant populations?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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ChipNDip posted:

Fascism is capitalism in decay. It's not due to a migrant crisis (1920s Italy hardly had a migrant crisis), the current migrant crisis is merely a trigger.

But yes, as long as we have capitalism, we are doomed to keep sliding into fascism.

Yeah, I misspoke a bit, but migrants are pretty much the perfect target for the internal and external enemy require to fuel fascist sentiments. Ask about fascism in the US 10 or even 5 years ago and the enemy would have been Muslims and/or blacks. Now, though those two groups will still be included, the focus is on South American refugees and brown peoples in general.

Though I would contend your definition a bit, I have to fully disagree that you guys are sliding into fascism you're already firmly into stage 3 and about wrist deep into stage 4

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

get that OUT of my face posted:

american politics isn't suddenly going to go left when all the boomers die, the structural problems will remain and won't easily be removed, if they're removed at all

in most western countries, younger generations tend to be more sympathetic towards fascism, not less

Soooo... Trumpism is a youth movement? Okay.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Old fucks can't understand new, good music. gently caress em.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Guess you can always do more crimes.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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H.P. Hovercraft posted:

*goons erupting from woodwork* IMAGINE THE EVIL OF BUSTING IN A FEMALE

Get a vasectomy and buy a sports car.



Or, I guess, rent if you aren't a straight white male.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

If the left just came out and said that they categorically oppose women having any reproductive rights, the majority of the pieces of poo poo I know would immediately become "leftists".

Theyre not worth our time and their early demise is a good thing for everyone. The faster the elder monster cease this world the better.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Add some regulation and the problem is solved. When people or companies find loopholes, rewrite the regulation. It's pretty loving simple but the wave of idiot brain ideology that's been and is still sweeping the globe makes the average person think regulation is super bad for everything.


E: also, enforce that regulation.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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jesus WEP posted:

if it was properly enforced, a bunch of airbnb copycats would probably gain popularity too as landlords split time between them. then you’d get a price comparison aggregator site to join em all back together and you’re back to square one

Cool. Then rewrite the regulations. Throw around fines. Nationalise and dissolve if you have to.

Cocaine Bear has issued a correction as of 19:54 on Aug 31, 2019

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

ElGroucho posted:

gently caress that, death to all racists

Good thread title.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

If he would just stop saying the quiet parts loud, not a single one of these purported anti trump regressives would have any problem with anything he does. They're scum all the way down.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

DragQueenofAngmar posted:

they don’t care about brown babies

Tbf they also really REALLY hate women.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

You get good at playing an instrument by practicing a lot. You get good at a sports by practicing a lot. You get good at writing by practicing a lot. You get good at talking to women by... breaking your legs in France?


Sounds about right.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Oh. So they think women are men. Gotcha.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Elephant Ambush posted:

This is one of the reasons guys send dick pics. They think because they get turned on by naked women sex parts that women are the same the other way around.

Like that article from a while ago where a woman figured she'd freak a bunch of guys out on tinder by sending snatch snaps. Shockingly, the guys all loved it.

Straight men may be a dumb lot, but at least they know what they like.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Shaffness posted:

This is what I envy about the gays, it must be so nice to always be on the same page.

It's basically cheating and it's total bullshit.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Kitfox88 posted:

a statistically significant portion of men suck

Lol, it's not statistically significant, it's fukken most of em.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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ElGroucho posted:

Everyone who isn't me, loving sucks

And everyone else really loving sucks.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

^^^ or just enjoy your things how you like and let others enjoy thing they like how they like. Also, try new things. My opinion is that lighting a dried plant of fire and inhaling the smoke is some cave man poo poo, but you do you.

BiggerBoat posted:

In fairness to Maureen Dowd, weed has come a LONG way in terms of potency and how hard it hits you. I'm 52 and was a regular pothead from 18-33 or so and by the time I tried it again I was rather taken aback and fairly. Even when I moved to SF, CA in 1990, the potency of the dope out there taught me to slow down and that this wasn't east coast weed. I had a semi similar experience with edibles maybe 10-15 years later that bordered on an acid trip once but I didn't use my journalistic connections to warn everyone about the dangers of marijuana.

No personal offence, friend, as you obviously don't mean this in the traditional anti drug way, but I really hate this line of reasoning. poo poo's stronger, so what? Be a responsible user and figure out what you can handle. poo poo today is also far more consistent and reliable and it's only getting better. So you grew up drinking lovely, chunky basement brew beer at 3-5%? That doesn't make my fine, high quality liquor bad or more dangerous.

I suppose this isn't too far off topic because some ancient conservative rear end in a top hat might die at the thought of casually discussing advanced methods of ingesting the devil's weed (or just of too much fentanyl, either way is fine).

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

I like weed. Do yoooouuu?!!?!!,??

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Agean90 posted:

I have a tiny bit more sympathy for these guys cause they probably don't understand that all brown people are excluded from republican rhetoric but lmao I'm sure they had plenty of people warning them

I, actually, have no sympathy for people that advocate for genocide.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Suspicious posted:

they didn't mind "colored" men and women sharing the same restrooms

They don't see non whites as human. They see (white) women as human, but property. They believe they're inherently correct and morally right snout all things and as a matter of course that anyone that isn't them is Evil™. They're all going to watch the next American holocaust unfold gleefully.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Forceholy posted:

Outside the major cities, the world is conservative and racist as hell.

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Arc Light posted:

The scam is in thinking you'd want to survive

My limited mobility 63 yo boomer mother is going to be laughing at all of you fools as she batters her silver bars and lives like a wasteland queen. She also has a generator and could totally start it if she wanted to.

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